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MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/13/2009 8:24:20 PM | message detail
I think they're pretty close together as well. I just can't see that many people voting HL2 over HL that much. The list helps, too.

No doubt is HL2 stronger, but it isn't by miles or anything.
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ZFS | Posted 4/13/2009 8:24:33 PM | message detail
We'll see. I'm not putting any faith into a game based on Gordon Freeman of all characters. HL2 will have a shot to show it's decent.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/13/2009 8:26:05 PM | message detail
If Half Life is close, expect Half Life to easily beat FF9 then, since it would have boosted majorly from when it got 43% on MP.
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greatone10 | Posted 4/13/2009 8:26:16 PM | message detail
And people still underestimate Gordon Freeman based off an outdated board fad.

GFNW died with Half-Life 2's release.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/13/2009 8:26:29 PM | message detail
I think they're pretty close together as well. I just can't see that many people voting HL2 over HL that much.

Do you know the Valve fanbase? Not trying to be condescending, just wondering what you're basing this off of. I know the Valve fanbase, and while HL is loved, HL2 is *loved*. For me personally HL is a Top 30 game while HL2 is a Top 5 game.

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therealmnm | Posted 4/13/2009 8:29:32 PM | message detail
Half-Life 2 has never been a powerhouse in any poll we've seen it in. No reason to think it significantly builds on HL1 getting 43% on Metroid Prime 5 years ago. I still think Half-Life is just as non-linear as Gordon Freeman.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/13/2009 8:30:33 PM | message detail
I personally do not know the Valve fanbase well, I'll admit.

If one were to assume that Half-Life 2 is miles ahead of the first one, then I really don't see why FFXII even remains a debate. I'd definitely take Prime over FFXII.
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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 4/13/2009 8:31:07 PM | message detail
Gordon Freeman (2004c) VS Gordon Freeman (2005c)

Gordon Freeman has a strength of 14.37.
Gordon Freeman has a strength of 22.78.

Gordon Freeman wins with 68.46% of the vote!
A win of 32,437 with 87,861 total votes cast.

Half-Life 2 came out in November 2004.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/13/2009 8:31:46 PM | message detail
lots of people here not knowing what valve fans are about
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/13/2009 8:32:02 PM | message detail
HL2 won't be miles ahead of the first one, but 60/40 isn't miles.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/13/2009 8:32:50 PM | message detail

From: Team Rocket Elite | #458
Gordon Freeman (2004c) VS Gordon Freeman (2005c)

Gordon Freeman has a strength of 14.37.
Gordon Freeman has a strength of 22.78.

Gordon Freeman wins with 68.46% of the vote!
A win of 32,437 with 87,861 total votes cast.

Half-Life 2 came out in November 2004.


And the last Game Contest was about 6 months before Half Life 2s release, to cement this point.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/13/2009 8:34:47 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #460
HL2 won't be miles ahead of the first one, but 60/40 isn't miles.


60/40 Half-Life indirectly would mean that you're pretty much around Metroid Prime (it has no reason to drop looking at Gordon), so where would you put Prime in relation to FFXII?
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XxSoulxX | Posted 4/13/2009 8:35:41 PM | message detail
Half-Life 2 came out in November 2004.

And since then, you've had Episode 1 and The Orange Box. Gordon should be even stronger since then, as should HL2.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/13/2009 8:36:28 PM | message detail
MP>=HL2>FFXII

MP would be a good match, but I personally think FFXII never had a shot to begin with (which has more to do with its own weaknesses than HL2).

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SonicRaptor | Posted 4/13/2009 8:38:53 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #455
I think they're pretty close together as well. I just can't see that many people voting HL2 over HL that much.

Do you know the Valve fanbase? Not trying to be condescending, just wondering what you're basing this off of. I know the Valve fanbase, and while HL is loved, HL2 is *loved*. For me personally HL is a Top 30 game while HL2 is a Top 5 game.


This is why I think a lot of people are ignoring L4D's strength. Don't get me wrong, it's not getting past Round 1 but I think it's performance in the four-pack is going to surprise a lot of people.

We are going to see a few L4D characters in the character battle this year (Boomer for sure).
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/13/2009 8:39:01 PM | message detail
Still, that Half-Life poll up against Metroid Prime still lost pretty handily (I'm not too sure how old the poll is in relation to the series however), but even though Half-Life 2 definitely revived Gordon.. You'd think the series would have made a better match against Prime besides getting what HL already got on it years prior.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/13/2009 8:39:38 PM | message detail
I've actually had L4D advancing in its first round match till I chickened out, but its something that wouldn't SHOCK me.
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edwardsdv | Posted 4/13/2009 8:39:45 PM | message detail
I know this seems pretty obvious,but how strong was Gordon Freeman in this last games contest?

Didn't it take a fairly early exit? And to whom?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/13/2009 8:41:02 PM | message detail
Still, that Half-Life poll up against Metroid Prime still lost pretty handily (I'm not too sure how old the poll is in relation to the series however), but even though Half-Life 2 definitely revived Gordon.. You'd think the series would have made a better match against Prime besides getting what HL already got on it years prior.

I think HL's performance was inflated due to lower voters and all the 128-Bit Division matches being relatively close for some reason, which is why I still take MP>HL2 despite saying HL2 would 60/40 HL.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/13/2009 8:41:55 PM | message detail

From: edwardsdv | #468
I know this seems pretty obvious,but how strong was Gordon Freeman in this last games contest?

Didn't it take a fairly early exit? And to whom?


He made third round, his strongest run yet.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/13/2009 8:42:06 PM | message detail
I know this seems pretty obvious,but how strong was Gordon Freeman in this last games contest?

Didn't it take a fairly early exit? And to whom?


Uh...Gordon narrowly lost to Scorpion in R1 (which it wasn't even supposed to be close), easily beat him in R2, and managed to beat SFFd Ganondorf in R3 (for 3rd place, but a moral victory is a moral victory).

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creativename | Posted 4/13/2009 8:43:16 PM | message detail
What in the the...Mega Man with just about as big a pic advantage as he could get. He might actually not get splattered.
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SonicRaptor | Posted 4/13/2009 8:43:53 PM | message detail
To let everyone know where L4D stands in the Valve fanbase.

The game is slowly getting more and more popular. Obviously the game sold very well, but in the Valve fanbase itself the game is starting to become really supported. It won't be as cherished as HL1-2 nor as tight-knit as TF2 but it's building up a community right now.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/13/2009 8:44:24 PM | message detail
Knowing Mega Mans great board vote and Final Fantasys horrible board vote... think theres any chance MM might lead for a few minutes?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/13/2009 8:45:31 PM | message detail
What in the the...Mega Man with just about as big a pic advantage as he could get. He might actually not get splattered.

It's actually really satisfying to see comments like this. It feels like I helped out the Blue Bomber in the only way I could.

/brag

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SonicRaptor | Posted 4/13/2009 8:46:45 PM | message detail

From: MyWorldIsCrono | #474
Knowing Mega Mans great board vote and Final Fantasys horrible board vote... think theres any chance MM might lead for a few minutes?


I'm not too sure about that one, there are a lot of users on Board 8 that believe FF4 has strength and want to prove it...
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red sox 777 | Posted 4/13/2009 8:46:58 PM | message detail
Only FFVII has a horrible board vote.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/13/2009 8:47:38 PM | message detail
The FF board vote varies with the games. There's FF7's laughable one, and then there's FF9's great one.

FF4 should be...average, I guess.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/13/2009 8:48:30 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #477
Only FFVII has a horrible board vote.


All FFs do, FF7s is just legendary bad.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 4/13/2009 8:48:36 PM | message detail
The game is slowly getting more and more popular. Obviously the game sold very well, but in the Valve fanbase itself the game is starting to become really supported. It won't be as cherished as HL1-2 nor as tight-knit as TF2 but it's building up a community right now.

Portal would be stronger then all games not named HL2 as well. L4D is definitely the weak link, but it won't be that weak.
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creativename | Posted 4/13/2009 8:49:01 PM | message detail
I also wonder how many votes "Barf" will get. RCR might do well with the board vote based on that.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/13/2009 8:50:06 PM | message detail
I might take L4D over Portal and TF2. It had a lot of success on the 360, moreso than even The Orange Box.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/13/2009 8:51:12 PM | message detail
I'd also take L4D over them. Maybe not on a PC oriented site, but Gamefaqs is more console oriented and L4D is bigger there then those games.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 4/13/2009 8:51:28 PM | message detail
Oh wait, yeah, I was about to say I can see L4D putting up a good fight with Team Fortress 2.

It won't stand a chance against Portal though. Portal isn't only loved by Valve's fanbase, but it has become an internet meme/fad and is loved by just about everyone.
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SonicRaptor | Posted 4/13/2009 8:53:06 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #482
I might take L4D over Portal and TF2. It had a lot of success on the 360, moreso than even The Orange Box.


Over Portal, yes, but only because I believe the Internet memes are dead on that one (4chan cannot rally a game to victory as we saw with Battletoads).

Over TF2, I'm not very sure, the game has a pretty crazed and fanatical fanbase while L4D's is still growing as it lures more and more people to it. In a year, maybe, but now I don't think it has it yet.
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Lopen | Posted 4/13/2009 8:59:18 PM | message detail
Mega Man 3 comin to rock the house watch out FFIV
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charmander6000 | Posted 4/13/2009 8:59:18 PM | message detail
Almost time.
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HaRRicH | Posted 4/13/2009 8:59:22 PM | message detail
SMW - 85%
FF - 70%
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Master Moltar | Posted 4/13/2009 9:00:32 PM | message detail
woo late poll
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Childproof | Posted 4/13/2009 9:00:37 PM | message detail
god damnit for some reason I had a feeling it would start late
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Xcarvenger | Posted 4/13/2009 9:00:41 PM | message detail
Crystalis 16.67%

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Final Fantasy II (IV) 50%

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Mega Man 3 16.67%

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River City Ransom 16.67%

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TOTAL VOTES 6

yesss 50% already! >_>

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RPGuy96 | Posted 4/13/2009 9:00:55 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3453

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/13/2009 9:01:00 PM | message detail
Uh... wheres the poll
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/13/2009 9:01:08 PM | message detail
'augh'

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Childproof | Posted 4/13/2009 9:01:39 PM | message detail
waaah ghost poll is scary
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Lopen | Posted 4/13/2009 9:01:40 PM | message detail
Mario cheats again.

FF1 was winning the last update.
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SonicRaptor | Posted 4/13/2009 9:01:43 PM | message detail
Goddamnit, first late poll of the year.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/13/2009 9:01:49 PM | message detail
While we wait for the poll, lets "lol" at how much Asia loves FF

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3452&region=ASI
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greatone10 | Posted 4/13/2009 9:02:04 PM | message detail
Earthbound sucks.
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Master Moltar | Posted 4/13/2009 9:02:04 PM | message detail
mm3 = crystalis = rcr

mm3 uber bomb confirmed
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