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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 672

HaRRicH | Posted 4/11/2009 1:43:41 PM | message detail
I still think it's a shame we didn't get S&K in. At this point, considering S3&K hasn't made it at this point, I think SB just doesn't want to call it an individual game...and S&K is the next best thing.

It's probably still the strongest Sonic game, too. It's got the old Sonic-poll backing it, both Sonic "&" Knuckles in the title, the most unique of the original games, the chance of carrying S2&K/S3&K-support since you have to have S&K to play them, and is undeniably an individual game. If we have another BGE, S&K needs to be rallied without interference from the S3&K-crowd (sorry Leonhart!).
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/11/2009 1:44:40 PM | message detail
At this point, considering S3&K hasn't made it at this point, I think SB just doesn't want to call it an individual game...and S&K is the next best thing.

Duh, its not in the gamefaqs database. I remember he said a game is only eligible if its in the database.
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charmander6000 | Posted 4/11/2009 1:45:44 PM | message detail
no way civilization doubles simcity

you can say civ is stronger, but there is no way in hell its that much stronger


And that's why it's going to win tomorrow. I also believe that SFII is stronger than it was in 2k4.
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redrocket | Posted 4/11/2009 1:47:25 PM | message detail
Funny thing, I still can't find Pokemon R/B/Y in the database.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/11/2009 1:48:31 PM | message detail
Using stats to try and gauge SimCity's strength - or any of the other games - is pointless in the end. They're all going to be horribly weak, they're all going to get killed and even SFFd a little by SMB3 simple because it's ****ing Mario versus fodder of the lowest calibur. The rest is just guesswork on our part.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 4/11/2009 1:48:38 PM | message detail
Duh, its not in the gamefaqs database. I remember he said a game is only eligible if its in the database.

Since when is Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow in the database?

And there are things you can only do in those games when it's S3&K, so it's basically one game!

And I would've rallied for S&K if I'd have known S3&K wouldn't be allowed! I nominated S&K, for cryin' out loud!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 4/11/2009 1:49:33 PM | message detail
And the match tomorrow is horrible to analyze. It's just picking who sucks the least, and there's really not much logic involved. No fun.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/11/2009 1:50:07 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #106
Duh, its not in the gamefaqs database. I remember he said a game is only eligible if its in the database.

Since when is Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow in the database?

And there are things you can only do in those games when it's S3&K, so it's basically one game!

And I would've rallied for S&K if I'd have known S3&K wouldn't be allowed! I nominated S&K, for cryin' out loud!


I think Pokemon was an exception since those games would obviously just be totally vote split and not even get in if he didn't combine them.
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Raito_Yagami1 | Posted 4/11/2009 1:52:21 PM | message detail
How do i shot PSI omega?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 4/11/2009 1:56:13 PM | message detail
I think Pokemon was an exception since those games would obviously just be totally vote split and not even get in if he didn't combine them.

What, like Sonic 3 and S&K?

Yeah, Sonic 3 got in, but still!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/11/2009 1:57:35 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #110
I think Pokemon was an exception since those games would obviously just be totally vote split and not even get in if he didn't combine them.

What, like Sonic 3 and S&K?

Yeah, Sonic 3 got in, but still!


sonic 3 and sonic & knuckles are more of seperate games then the pokemon games

regardless if they were "made to be the same game" or not, they were released at different times, with different names, and as two separate purchases
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swirIdude | Posted 4/11/2009 1:59:57 PM | message detail
I think Pokemon was an exception since those games would obviously just be totally vote split and not even get in if he didn't combine them.

There's also the point that Red and Blue are the exact same game with a few different Pokemon. Yellow is just the same game with Jesse/James and walking Pikachu added, with some other minor story points.

Interestingly Crystal and Platinum couldn't get in with their main duos. Platinum wasn't out at bracket reveal, but it and Crystal likely were excluded because SBAllen deemed them different enough from the main duo.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/11/2009 2:03:19 PM | message detail
You know how a ton of 3D platformers have dumb fetch quests to open doors?

Just once, I want to see this:

"Oh ye Ancient Hero of Lore, the simple door you see before you has been sealed by an epic and ancient magic spell from the gods themselves -- verily, thou must procure the Eagle Crest from the west wing of the castle, guarded by the kingly hero of destined gods. The kingly hero of destined gods' only weak point is a Silver Sword of Althenana Crotch branded with a rare Hawk Crest, found only in the sinking ship of Saint Elmo in the netherworld's puragotorial path, but the Silver Sword of Althena's Crotch was deemed too powerful by the Legendary Gods of War. To obtain this sword, one must be worthy of Haven's journey and defeat the Legendary Gods of War, in order one at a time on every eight Wednesday of the Bicentennial Millenial Century. Upon bestowed of thee the sword, one has 16.327 seconds to fuse the Eagle Crest and Hawk Crest with bloody bare hands, and brand the union artifact onto the hilt of the sword before stabbing oneself in the anus. Only then will thy be able to open this door and challenge the Legendary Hero of Heroic Heroly Legend."

Main character: "Man, **** this" *kicks down the damn door*
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/11/2009 2:04:20 PM | message detail
In the time it took you to write that you could've solved 2-3 fetch quests. >_>

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/11/2009 2:05:10 PM | message detail
My friend was watching me DMc last night, and we were ROLLING at some of the dumb **** you have to do when Dante could simply shatter a door with his bare hands.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 4/11/2009 2:06:41 PM | message detail
regardless if they were "made to be the same game" or not, they were released at different times, with different names, and as two separate purchases

So are we talking about S3&K or R/B/Y here?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/11/2009 2:08:05 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #116
regardless if they were "made to be the same game" or not, they were released at different times, with different names, and as two separate purchases

So are we talking about S3&K or R/B/Y here?


R/B/Y are the exact same game, just with a very few minor differences

Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knux are totally different games with different levels and different characters you play as
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/11/2009 2:09:17 PM | message detail
And I was a Genesis kid growing up, so don't bring up an arguement about I don't know what I'm talking about

I have at least 60 genesis cartridges still too, along with my Nomad and Sega Genesis..
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charmander6000 | Posted 4/11/2009 2:10:20 PM | message detail
Crystal was exclude because it was made in 2001.
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plasmabeam | Posted 4/11/2009 2:37:17 PM | message detail
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plasmabeam | Posted 4/11/2009 2:38:05 PM | message detail
You know how a ton of 3D platformers have dumb fetch quests to open doors?

I still think the fact that most RPG heroes can't jump across a 3-foot gap is the worst (especially when said hero jumps 452 miles up in the air to perform a special move).

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LeonhartFour | Posted 4/11/2009 2:38:49 PM | message detail
They somewhat remedied that in FFX-2, at least!
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/11/2009 3:06:18 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | Posted: 4/11/2009 5:38:49 PM | #122
They somewhat remedied that in FFX-2, at least!


...no, they didn't.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 4/11/2009 3:18:03 PM | message detail
You can jump across gaps that you couldn't in FFX! I said somewhat, not entirely. It'd be better if you could jump at will, but oh well!
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paulg235 | Posted 4/11/2009 3:23:41 PM | message detail
It'd be better if you could jump at will,

Just like Kingdom Hearts.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/11/2009 3:45:27 PM | message detail
But your argument is exactly the same as the people who say the Mega Man games should be strong. Exactly the same.

Mega Man hasn't been relevant for years? Neither has Sonic.
Sonic has three widely loved games from early in his life? So does Mega Man.
Mega Man has a bunch of games that aren't liked? So does Sonic.

Was there anything else? I think you just want to blindly claim Sonic is strong so you can say "lol X-Stats" with respect to its SMW match from 5 years ago.


I would make the argument that Mega Man at least maintained a small, loyal fanbase with X4/X5 and the Zero series as opposed to Sonic not having even 1 good game after 3&K

And to put my $0.02 in on the Sonic discussion, Sonic was indeed huge back in the day, but so was Street Fighter. Most logic and stats pointed to a Street Fighter win here, but it seems that people really don't care about the franchise. Does this mean I'm expecting Sonic games to do anything worthwhile this year? Hell no. They'll get to where they need to and then lose. The only potential I see is for Sonic 2 to beat the winner of Mega Man X/Link's Awakening, but once again, I think today is more a result of Street Fighter 2's weakness than Sonic's strength.

Although today does give me faith that I wasn't smoking crack by taking Sonic 3 to the division finals.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/11/2009 3:48:32 PM | message detail

From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #126
but it seems that people really don't care about the franchise.


Although this is true, you can't honestly tell me that Sonic games don't have strength on this site.

Sonic 1 beating the biggest Street Fighter game is pretty impressive no matter how you look at it.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/11/2009 3:53:32 PM | message detail
I'm not saying they don't have strength.

I have Sonic 3 going to round 3 with LttP.

I'm just saying that people are assuming that SF > Sonic pickers were basing the assumption on Sonic's Character Battle shortcomings when it was simply a pick based on the fact that Street Fighter simply had more arguments in it's favour (stronger in 2004, recent remakes and Street Fighter 4)
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/11/2009 3:55:43 PM | message detail
Well, we never really knew if it was stronger in 2004 (though it looked likely for many), remakes don't really boost games a lot and Street Fighter IV didn't put much stir on this site (though, it did wake up a lot of fans).

My argument was really just based on Sonic 1 not being as liked as the others, but now I can see that it was flawed the moment I thought longer about it.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/11/2009 4:03:03 PM | message detail

From: MarioSuperstar | #129
Well, we never really knew if it was stronger in 2004 (though it looked likely for many), remakes don't really boost games a lot and Street Fighter IV didn't put much stir on this site (though, it did wake up a lot of fans).

My argument was really just based on Sonic 1 not being as liked as the others, but now I can see that it was flawed the moment I thought longer about it.


Or maybe you were right, and the others are just REALLY strong.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/11/2009 4:09:40 PM | message detail
I can't picture the other Sonic games beating SFII that much worse. It might put it too close to Super Mario World.. but you're right. We can never really know, but I don't think Sonic games are nearly as liked as World.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/11/2009 4:15:24 PM | message detail

From: MarioSuperstar | #131
I can't picture the other Sonic games beating SFII that much worse. It might put it too close to Super Mario World.. but you're right. We can never really know, but I don't think Sonic games are nearly as liked as World.


Obviously not 1v1 cuz of SFF... but who knows, indirectly it might be really close.
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charmander6000 | Posted 4/11/2009 7:06:17 PM | message detail
Match VI: SimCity vs. Super Mario Bros. 3 vs. Tecmo Super Bowl vs. The Secret of Monkey Island

Information:

Name: SimCity
Year: 1991
System: PC, SNES
2004 Performance: Did not enter

Name: Super Mario Bros. 3
Year: 1990
System: NES
2004 Performance: 82.30% against Metal Gear, 78.04% against Metroid, 59.60% against Final Fantasy, 56.78% against The Legend of Zelda, 47.77% against Chrono Trigger

Name: Tecmo Super Bowl
Year: 1991
System: NES
2004 Performance: Did not enter

Name: The Secret of Monkey Island
Year: 1990
System: PC
2004 Performance: Did not enter

Analysis

Well what do we have here, one of the super six in one of the weakest first round match of the contest. We all know what to expect right? Utter annihilation, you thought Super Mario Bros.’s new record was impressive you haven’t seen anything yet. Also while Super Mario Bros. 3 is destroying everything in sight three other games will attempt to pick up any remaining leftovers in hope of advancing and being crushed again in round 2.

To most people anything less than setting a new high percent record would be considered a disappointment to Super Mario Bros. 3. However all these people randomly pegging Super Mario Bros. 3 to reach 80%+ with no trouble are delusional or don’t understand how hard it is to reach high percents. For SMB to reach 80% in its first round match it would require it to almost triple itself. While Super Mario Bros. 3 is indeed stronger than SMB and the opponents in this match are weaker than the ones SMB had to take that kind of jump would require SMB to be a dud in this contest.

With a very small percentage leftover after Super Mario Bros. 3 swallows everything any of the three games can take second. Out of the three games Tecmo Super Bowl has to lowest chance at advancing. In the past we’ve seen sport games fail and out of the three games Tecmo Super Bowl shares the most in common with Super Mario Bros. 3 with both appearing on the NES. Still it can still advance because with such low percents something whacky is bound to happen.

Out of the three games The Secret of Monkey Island has the biggest hardcore fanbase. Still that fanbase is pretty small though when the winner may only need 10% to win it may be enough. Guybrush has always been a terrible performer yet it returns year after year. The fanbase is big enough for it to get nominated, but even with these miniscule percents I see it having enough problems managing enough votes in the face of Super Mario Bros. 3 to place.

The favourite in this match is none other than SimCity, though the reason behind could prove fatal in the match. While the other two competitors have a long history of why they are going to fail SimCity doesn’t have much. This doesn’t mean SimCity has strength or that it will fail to advance because our lack of numbers shows no proof that it is weaker than Tecmo and Monkey Island.

Super Mario Bros. 3 will set a new record for highest percent, one that may never be broken. With five of the super six outside of this quarter of the bracket the only thing Super Mario Bros. 3 fears is LFF in future rounds. Unless second place doubles its competitors I’m pretty sure no one will care who wins, even if it’s an upset.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Super Mario Bros. 3 > SimCity

charmander6000’s Prediction: Super Mario Bros. 3 – 74.62%, SimCity – 11.02%, The Secret of Monkey Island – 8.22%, Tecmo Super Bowl – 6.14%

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charmander6000 | Posted 4/11/2009 7:11:03 PM | message detail
To anyone who thought vote totals would be higher in this division...

we are on pace for 111k
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Master Moltar | Posted 4/11/2009 7:12:10 PM | message detail
Division 2: Round 1 - Match 6 – SimCity vs. Super Mario Bros. 3 vs. Tecmo Super Bowl vs. Secret of Monkey Island

Moltar’s Analysis

SimCity
2004 Results: N/A

Fodder #1

SMB3
2004 Results: Won in Round 1 against Metal Gear
Won in Round 2 against Metroid
Won in Round 3 against Final Fantasy
Won in Round 4 against The Legend of Zelda
Lost in Round 5 against Chrono Trigger

One of the strongest games on the site.

Tecmo
2004 Results: N/A

Fodder #2

Monkey Island
2004 Results: N/A

Fodder #3

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=237
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3196
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2743

Thank you generational divide/poor bracket-making!

SMB3 obviously gets first in what should be the biggest blow-out of the contest. Who cares what takes second. I went with Monkey Island. I mean Guybrush keeps getting into contests so at least I know one of these games has a cult following that will vote for it.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: SMB3 > Monkey Island

Moltar’s Prediction is: SMB3: 74% - Monkey Island: 10% - SimCity: 9% - Tecmo: 7%



Heroic Mario’s Analysis

This is probably the worst match in the entire contest -- you have one strong game and three complete duds. There's nothing interesting about this one (no, stats topic, no one cares about Civilization vs. SimCity!) at all. Not even how high SMB3 goes, because we just saw SMB1 put up 70%.

Yeah, second should be close, but who cares? We're talking about a fight for 10%, with a bunch of uberfodder that shouldn't have made it into the contest. SimCity is probably the safest choice, for being so "well-known" (theme of the contest, apparently), but Monkey Island is probably the only game here with anything resembling a fanbase, even if it's a super small one.

I originally had Tecmo Bowl, but after Punch-Out loss to DK, I can't have much faith in a much less popular, less played game doing any better. Sure, Monkey Island's probably the least played game here, but it should still muster up enough of the Guybrush support to manage to stay out of last. Then again, I have no idea how to predict old games, so who knows.

Three paragraphs on this match what is wrong with me

Super Mario Bros. 3 -- 74%
Secret of Monkey Island -- 10%
SimCity -- 9%
Tecmo Super Bowl -- 7%

Bracket: Mario 3 > Monkey Island
Favorites: who cares about these games



Lopen’s Analysis

Super Mario Brothers 3 rakes. WHAT A BEAST, they will say. Knowing this when I made the bracket, and not only after seeing SMB/Tetris/LoZ destroy their packs, I decided that “yes, the 7% Madden NFL got against Super Mario Brothers in the series contest would be enough of a baseline to threaten for the win here”

And that's what I went with. Tecmo Super Bowl should be a bit stronger than Madden NFL, sportin the “classix” vote as opposed to the “I hate EA and Tinactin” vote. After all, who could forget the almighty QB Eagles? Or the interception happy Minnesota Vikings? His power is unmatched even today in football. The game has a cult following, and perhaps a small Football vote backbone, which should be enough to be in contention for this match.
Master Moltar | Posted 4/11/2009 7:12:24 PM | message detail
Sim City I believe is the favorite here from consensus, but I have 0 faith in it. Who votes for Sim City over friggin SUPER MARIO BROTHERS 3. Huge assist trophy boosts not withstanding, I don't think Sim City has anything but a mild apathy vote in its favor. I'd have it winning here over either of the other two games without SMB3, but I just can't see it getting any votes here. If anyone's favorite game ever is Sim City, I'd eat my hat (not that I own a hat, but I'd buy one for this occasion). I mean, it's not a bad game... I kind of have an urge to play it now, thinking about it. But that's only because I haven't played it in 15 years.

Monkey Island... well, think Guybrush. Yeah, that same jackass who plagues every character battle with his 10-15% against even the weakest entrants. I hadn't really thought about this game as an upset pick... but now looking at it again, it's got a real chance here. If I'm putting the 7% baseline of Madden NFL in contention, why not a 10% baseline of Guybrush? Well, I'll stick with my bracket here, just because, but this should be a hot match.

Lopen's prediction:
Super Mario Brothers 3 – 74.32%
Tecmo Super Bowl – 10.27%
Super Monkey Island – 9.95%
Sim City – 5.56%



Transience’s Analysis

I am boycotting this match.

In 2002, we had gems like Max Payne vs. Dirk the Daring, and Kyo vs. Abe. These are kind of excusable, though, because we never had proper nominations and had no idea what was actually popular besides the obvious stuff. In 2004, we had Vyse vs. Laharl -- one of these guys actually had to win a contest match in the battle of who could care less. 2006 brought us the female bracket and such gems as Joanna Dark vs. Cortana or Ada Wong vs. Jade from Beyond Good and Evil. 2007 brought us a wolf, a 20 year old niche boxer and a Mii. I recall arguments like "boxing SFF" and "who the hell knows the name Amaterasu" and "Dante SFFs Amaterasu because they're both Capcom".

Oh, how I miss those days. Because I'm about to watch a match between a niche football game from 20 years ago, a uber-cult game whose main character got septupled by Bowser, and a game that most people know from playing it in the library.

Seriously. This is the worst match of all time. And there have been about 400.

If I had the ability to not pick one of these games out of protest, I would. I would gladly drop two points to make a stand against any contest match that features Simcity, Monkey Island and Tecmo Bowl. If there was ever an argument against sorting the bracket by generations, this is it. SBAllen, I hold you personally responsible for this. You did this to torture us. I am onto you. Board 8 will not forget this. Let it be known that there is a great evil in this land, and he goes by the name of Allen.

transience's prediction:

Mario 3: 107.13%
Generic Football Game That Would Lose to Madden: -5.52%
Game Kids Played in a Library to Simulate Natural Disasters: 1.56%
Obscure Game 14 People Have Played: -3.17%



Leon’s Analysis

SimCity: Man, this is one of those four-packs no one wants to predict for second place because it’s basically predicting who sucks the least. SimCity doesn’t have much poll data around here, but it’s never been very impressive. I don’t think it’s a type of game that a lot of people would consider a favorite. Of course, it’s not like it’s going to need a large percentage to advance. Seriously, what do you say about this one?

Super Mario Bros. 3: If Mario 3 doesn’t get the blowout of the contest, I’ll be pretty surprised. This is the Link/Agent J/Bidoof/Edgeworth of the Games Contest right here, and I think it could conceivably hit around 70%, too. There’s really not much else to say about this one. Mario 3 won’t even be challenged until it gets out of this division, so what’s there to discuss?
Master Moltar | Posted 4/11/2009 7:13:13 PM | message detail
Tecmo Super Bowl: This is completely a biased pick and not based on logic whatsoever, but I’m taking Tecmo Super Bowl for second place here. The ONLY poll data we have on this game is the NES Virtual Console poll, where it got a whopping 4.48% of the vote. Plus, we know that sports aren’t very popular here on GameFAQs, so that’s another strike against it. Again, it’s the simple fact that it will only need a small percentage to advance that works in its favor.

The Secret of Monkey Island: Normally, I’d point you to Guybrush Threepwood’s contest history, say this game has no shot, and forget about it, but…10-15% might be good enough to get second place, and the Secret of Monkey Island can manage that. I’m not betting on it, but hey, at least it’s got a shot.

Leonhart’s Vote: It’s Warren Moon to Haywood Jeffries for the touchdown! Tecmo Super Bowl!

Leonhart’s Prediction:

SimCity – 8.13%
Super Mario Bros. 3 – 74.17%
Tecmo Super Bowl – 11.12%
The Secret of Monkey Island – 6.58%



Ed Bellis’s Analysis

One clear winer and three total jobbers. gee where have i seen this setup before

SimCity. The original “Sims spinoff” (lol HM), SimCity appeared in virtually every platform known to man and even had BOWSER AS A NATURAL DISASTER.. The game’s a classic, but do people care about it?

Super Mario Bros. 3. The winner of 2004’s 8-bit bracket, SMB3 lost to Chrono Trigger in the final four. The fabled clash with its 16-bit descendant will have to wait, however… first things first is the dispatching of awful, awful fodder.

Tecmo Super Bowl. Boxing might not be too popular on GF, but what about football?!? Tecmo Super Bowl is an 8-bit classic that… no one probably cares about. Why in the hell I took it to place here, I’ll never know.

The Secret of Monkey Island. A LucasArts point and click adventure game, Monkey Island definitely has a fan following, if main character Guybrush’s constant (and I mean constant!) appearances in character battles is any indication. It might get third!

What a disaster of a poll this is going to be. If SMB3 doesn’t break 70 percent on these chumps, it’s a huge loss to all mankind. This will be the first – though surely not the last! – time I bet against my bracket, as I’ll be taking SimCity for second and, after seeing Punch-Out barely scrape by, bump Tecmo Super Bowl to a last-place position. Hey, it could be worse – I could have Oregon Trail to the Elite Eight!

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Prediction: ONE TOOT ON THIS WHISTLE something something QB EAGLES
SimCity with 12.77%
Super Mario Bros. 3 with 71.05%
Tecmo Super Bowl with 7.09%
The Secret of Monkey Island with 9.09%



Guest’s Analysis - HaRRich

We can only know two things coming into this match for sure: SMB3 will embarrass every game here, and whatever gets second place here will be embarrassed again next round. It will be a great day for blow-outs and a bad day for getting people interested in a close match. We're dealing with a game that 94% of the site has played (many of which legitimately love it) and three games from that general era that have largely been left behind since then...yes, perhaps there have been sequels to SimCity, perhaps Guybrush hasn't learned when to take a hint from the Character Battles, but ultimately they're irrelevant to GameFAQs in today's world. This will frankly be ugly.

Talking about ugly, let's get the ugliest beating out of the way first: Secret of Monkey Island. I shouldn't have to point to anything other than Guybrush's past performances...
Master Moltar | Posted 4/11/2009 7:13:28 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=949
...Ryo Hazuki delivered a 2.5'ling (figure it out) in Guybrush's debut in 2002...
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1724
...Bowser has easily been Guybrush's toughest opponent, winning five-to-one in 2004...
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2893
...Duke/Gordon (who probably LFF'd) and pre-SSBB Ike each nearly tripled Guybrush in 2007...
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3247
...and Isaac 60-40'd Guybrush despite Lucario last year...

...so if he consistently gets beaten terribly bad by multiple weak characters over the years, there's a good chance SoMI will do terribly bad too. If you thought Bowser delivered a beating, wait until SMB3 comes into play. I understand games =/= characters, but Guybrush has been one of the least impressive characters in GameFAQs history and he's the lead character for the Monkey Island series. For these reasons, I'm calling for SoMI to be fourth place.

The competition most people are watching is SimCity/Tecmo, and my money's on SimCity. Let's establish a few things first:

1:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1401
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1400
--> Sports games in general are not appreciated here.

2:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3181
--> Nintendo fans are no exception; Wii Sports Resort barely beat Wii Music and took fifth.

3:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2433
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3133
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2627
--> The biggest football series here has constantly failed.

4:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3196
--> Tecmo's not proven to be any better than the rest of the genre or sport.

Looking over all those polls and assuming SMB3 will absorb lots of Tecmo's support from people who played the NES, Tecmo will hurt; it's not going to have many/any fans from people who weren't from that era, SMB3 is THE game of its era, and we saw what SMB did to Madden. In a way, I want to take SoMI > Tecmo for all of this, but I'm not giving it the benefit of the doubt since we've seen Guybrush so many times.

I don't have much reason to think SimCity > Tecmo or SoMI, mind you, other than they have simply shown that much less potential than SimCity. SimCity's series probably sold the most of the three and I figure more people have played it too, but...I mean, it's going to be miserable to watch as well. If I had seen more polls about it, I may have felt differently about its chances. As is though, I'm giving it a break. SimCity probably advances due to the Sim-name.

In short: this is a match where the #5-game on GameFAQs gets to annihilate three games that would not have made it into the contest if it wasn't for both the four-way format and the division of eras (how are they allowed to have a golden chance to advance when Xenogears will be forced into last place later this round?). Look for SimCity to steal enough scraps to take second place and take last place in Round Two with style.

SMB3 - 79.12%
SimCity - 8.66%
Tecmo - 6.34%
SoMI - 5.88%



Crew Consensus: For such a silly match, there sure are a variety of outcomes here. Moltar and HM have SMB3 > Monkey Island, Lopen and Leon have Tecmo Super Bowl in second, and the other 3 have SimCity in second!
red sox 777 | Posted 4/11/2009 7:27:09 PM | message detail
I'm....uh....franchise voting for SimCity tonight. SimCity 3000 > Any Mario game.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/11/2009 7:28:58 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #139
I'm....uh....franchise voting for SimCity tonight. SimCity 3000 > Any Mario game.


while this is true for Simcity 2000... Monkey Island still owns all of them
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ZFS | Posted 4/11/2009 7:29:40 PM | message detail
who else wants to just skip this disaster and move on i know i do

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/11/2009 7:31:53 PM | message detail
YES!

Legendary stuff.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/11/2009 7:33:00 PM | message detail
You guys are making me feel bad for having fun with this match!

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transience | Posted 4/11/2009 7:33:40 PM | message detail
107.13% is happening, be ready for it
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charmander6000 | Posted 4/11/2009 7:34:01 PM | message detail
I'm seriously watching this match just to see SMB3 destroy everything, I couldn't care less about the other games unless someone broke 15%, but even then I would be more surprise that SMB3 failed to break 70%
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Master Moltar | Posted 4/11/2009 7:38:52 PM | message detail
C/D - SMB3 will get a 90% update
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Castlevania 3/Civ/SF2/Sonic 1 - Bracket: Sonic 1 > SF2 - Vote: Sonic 1 (10/16)
transience | Posted 4/11/2009 7:39:35 PM | message detail
yeah, these other games don't matter at all. if anyone thinks two points is going to make or break their bracket, they're dead wrong. this is all about Mario 3, and the end result doesn't really matter, but it could be fun to see how high it can go or how low this trash can go.
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transience | Posted 4/11/2009 7:40:00 PM | message detail
Mario 3's morning vote could yield some huge updates, I wouldn't be surprised if it happened
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/11/2009 7:40:43 PM | message detail
Deny

Civ was a morning/day sort of game, so SimCity probably is too. I imagine Tecmo is the same way. Just enough to keep them from getting completely slaughtered.

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