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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 671

UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/11/2009 1:51:12 AM | message detail
Regular or SE?
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 4/11/2009 1:55:56 AM | message detail
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Lopen | Posted 4/11/2009 1:56:58 AM | message detail
By all means get SE. No reason not to get it, really, lots of extra goodies there. I have the original, and haven't gotten around to buying SE (I'll get it when it's really cheap-- happy enough with DMC3 I've already played through SE like three times despite not owning it).

Only thing purists might complain about in SE is the fact that the default difficulty is easier. In fact, like, all the difficulties are one tier down in SE (normal SE = easy original, hard SE = normal original etc etc) though I think at Dante Must Die level they even out. DMC3 certainly doesn't lack difficulty though so the difficulty adjustment doesn't really matter.
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Starion | Posted 4/11/2009 2:07:21 AM | message detail
Even with that adjustment though, I don't think the difficulty modes are comparable between DMC1 and DMC3. Even adjusted Normal in DMC3 is IMO harder than DMC1 Normal.

DMC2, on the other hand, is just not difficult even at the highest difficulty level.
paulg235 | Posted 4/11/2009 2:10:43 AM | message detail
How people didn't see Sonic>SFII is beyond me. Did they think the Sonic games would be exactly like Sonic in the CB's?

The difference between Sonic and SFII is exactly how I expected it to be, but they're both performing better than I expected.
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Lopen | Posted 4/11/2009 2:13:18 AM | message detail
If people thought Sonic would be like Sonic in the CBs they wouldn't take SF2 here. Who takes Ryu over Sonic? Don't be dumb.
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FACT: Halo 3 was 1000% responsible for Master Chief's boost.
Dilated Chemist | Posted 4/11/2009 2:16:13 AM | message detail
SMW shallacking Sonic 2 in 2004 is probably why people took SF2 over it. That and the whole Sonic not doing well in 4-ways and SF2 LOST!!?

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Adamantno1 | Posted 4/11/2009 2:17:58 AM | message detail
Castlevania 3 was released very late in the NES' lifetime in Europe, long after the release of Super CV4, and died a rather anonymous death despite getting decent reviews. I'm not sure how good the Europe vote will be.

As for Monkey Island VS Guybrush, they're equal. People won't vote Monkey Island unless they've played it, in which case they're definitely familiar with Guybrush, but Monkey Island has such a devoted fanbase people who like Monkey Island enough to want to vote for it would do so to help it in the poll rather than vot for something else, despite maybe liking it better. Sim City lacks such a fanbase.

And, as mentioned, Tecmo Super Bowl support is non-existant in Europe, and not popular enough nowadays in America to survive the lack of Europe support.

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Lopen | Posted 4/11/2009 2:19:25 AM | message detail
Damn Europe fanboyz in this topic these days.

How about Asia or Oceania we never talk about those.
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FACT: Halo 3 was 1000% responsible for Master Chief's boost.
paulg235 | Posted 4/11/2009 2:24:45 AM | message detail
I'm maitaining the opinion that Sonic 1 might advance to Round 3 despite SMB3 being in the match. Looking at Zelda/Metroid and yesterday's match, I feel that Sonic 2/Metroid only got SFF'ed THAT bad was because it was just a 1V1. With a 2nd place slot available, I feel that Sonic will survive SMB3's possible SFF (or that Sonic 1 pulls a 2003 Shadow) and advance.

Pre-contest, I had no idea how the division final's gonna go. Unless one of the FF games make it out of R2, Two Mario games, Mega Man 3 and Sonic 1 might be tricky to call (I went with SMB3 > Sonic). I regret picking Mega Man 3 to place in that match.
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Lopen | Posted 4/11/2009 2:26:52 AM | message detail
The thing about remaining confident in Sonic to win second next round-- as much as people like to say "haha Sonic is winning it was obvious" SF2 is not losing by that much. If you think Sonic is going to be hurt at all by SMB3 this 6% difference can't exactly be comforting.
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So I lost a bet to creativename (yeah...hardly shocking). Like usual, I should've known better!
FACT: Halo 3 was 1000% responsible for Master Chief's boost.
HaRRicH | Posted 4/11/2009 2:29:44 AM | message detail
Plus, if SMW decimated Sonic 2, you have to wonder what SMB3 could do to Sonic 1.
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greatone10 | Posted 4/11/2009 2:45:18 AM | message detail
The only thing that worries me is that Street Fighter II may not be totally immune to the SMB3 factor itself. Granted the Street Fighter fanbase won't allow a total collapse, but it will need to keep close to Sonic (keep in mind there is nothing in this four pack that will even remotely threaten the Sonic day vote) by the end in order to prove it can take advantage of any split.
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Donkey Kong Country 2's path to Best Game Ever '09.
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Adamantno1 | Posted 4/11/2009 2:45:48 AM | message detail
Damn Europe fanboyz in this topic these days.

How about Asia or Oceania we never talk about those.


Go find some Asians or Oceanians(?) and drag them here. I talk about what I know, and I know Europe.

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Lopen | Posted 4/11/2009 2:54:35 AM | message detail
The thing that bugs me about the whole talk about Europe though is that people seem to take polls from GameFAQs, use those to say "this game is not popular" and then say "it also won't get the Europe vote because of this, so it will lose" when our polls always had a Europe vote.

I mean, don't take this the wrong way, it's cool talking about various geolocation factors for interest's sake and for predicting trends, but I'm just saying the reality is that it doesn't change the end result of a match. Master Chief gets decimated in every country that isn't the US, but he still wins matches. Just because we know that as a fact now doesn't change anything.
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FACT: Halo 3 was 1000% responsible for Master Chief's boost.
greatone10 | Posted 4/11/2009 3:06:16 AM | message detail
The Geolocation stuff really doesn't mean anything when filling out a bracket (unless you think a match is going to be really close, in which case the international factor could be the difference), but it's really useful during the match when trying to predict trends.
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Donkey Kong Country 2's path to Best Game Ever '09.
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Lopen | Posted 4/11/2009 3:10:10 AM | message detail
Yeah, I'm all about it for trends, I'm just saying people are saying certain games can't win because "they'll lose Europe" and it's getting rather silly.
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FACT: Halo 3 was 1000% responsible for Master Chief's boost.
UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/11/2009 3:12:20 AM | message detail

From: Adamantno1 | Posted: 4/11/2009 5:17:58 AM | #408
blah blah blah verbal fellatio of Europe


Shut up already.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/11/2009 3:13:36 AM | message detail
I talk about what I know, and I know Europe.

I'll talk what I know, and I know winning contests.

You need blind luck, and nothing else. Go away.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/11/2009 3:15:20 AM | message detail

From: Lopen | Posted: 4/11/2009 4:56:58 AM | #403
By all means get SE. No reason not to get it, really, lots of extra goodies there. I have the original, and haven't gotten around to buying SE (I'll get it when it's really cheap-- happy enough with DMC3 I've already played through SE like three times despite not owning it).

Only thing purists might complain about in SE is the fact that the default difficulty is easier. In fact, like, all the difficulties are one tier down in SE (normal SE = easy original, hard SE = normal original etc etc) though I think at Dante Must Die level they even out. DMC3 certainly doesn't lack difficulty though so the difficulty adjustment doesn't really matter.


If you want, you can just have my original. It's unsealed, but never opened. I'd rather give it to a friend than do something stupid like trade it in at Gamestop or something.
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transience | Posted 4/11/2009 3:40:22 AM | message detail
wait, are people talking up Sonic games now because it's beat Street Fighter 2? this is one of the most overrated games contest-wise that we've ever had. everyone wants to think it's some really huge game -- and it's not. people just thought Sonic would bomb and it's merely a mid-tier game. if it was a big game it would be winning by 20%.

What's stopping Sonic 3 from being within 5% of FF6 in that poll? And if anything, the presence of LA/MMX will leech FF6.

are you serious? because it's beating Street Fighter 2? next we'll say Mega Man 2 is strong because it edged Pac-Man.
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transience | Posted 4/11/2009 3:42:22 AM | message detail
and Castlevania 3 bombing was very obvious. everyone knows that this site is about SOTN and only SOTN. any poll we've ever had confirms this.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1252
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2877
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Adamantno1 | Posted 4/11/2009 3:47:52 AM | message detail
Europe does most definitely matter when a number of less popular games are fighting over the remaining 30-40% not taken by the obvious winner. Non-America contributes what, 25% of the votes, which means that only 75% of the voters will even consider voting for that particular game. When far over half of those 75% are voting for the winner, that makes all those Europeans not voting for the American-only game quite significant.

Europe matter. Europe will not vote for Tecmo Bowl, like they didn't vote for Oregon Trail. Neither game had a chance of getting 2nd place, no matter how popular it is in America. Stop pretending your own country is the only one that matters.
See, I can do it too, Americanophiles.

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transience | Posted 4/11/2009 3:50:10 AM | message detail
Europe matters, just not as much as America. TSB losing the Europe vote really doesn't matter. TSB being weak as hell is what matters.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/11/2009 3:50:16 AM | message detail
You keep spamming anti-Tecmo Super Bowl posts as if the game has any chance at second place to begin with. It'll be lucky to break 5%.
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Lopen | Posted 4/11/2009 3:53:59 AM | message detail
No, it really doesn't. Because roughly 75% of those European votes are going to the game drawing 75% as well. Meaning the fact that a game hasn't been played in Europe is less significant because the majority are just voting SMB3 anyway.

Europe is part of the poll, we are all part of the poll. I'm not saying only America matters. Do you see me pulling up the US trends and arguing for Tecmo Super Bowl with them? If Tecmo Super Bowl wins 11% here to Sim City's 7% it really doesn't matter if it gets 0 votes from Europe, Sim City is dead.
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FACT: Halo 3 was 1000% responsible for Master Chief's boost.
Dilated Chemist | Posted 4/11/2009 3:56:29 AM | message detail
GO TECMO!

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Zylo the wolf | Posted 4/11/2009 4:08:47 AM | message detail
I think Monkey Island will get a lot of the Europe votes.
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 4/11/2009 4:17:08 AM | message detail

From: Zylo the wolf
I think Monkey Island will get a lot of the Europe votes.


I fully intend to rally about 20 votes from Europe for MI!

Oh yeah!
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Dilated Chemist | Posted 4/11/2009 4:18:36 AM | message detail
There's a link going around the Air Force (and probably the entire US military) where you can play Tecmo Super Bowl on a government computer.

Air Force rally!

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transience | Posted 4/11/2009 4:29:28 AM | message detail
Tecmo Bowl gets the Air Force vote! Simcity is so screwed
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shadow8021 | Posted 4/11/2009 4:51:09 AM | message detail
This doesn't make my MMX > Sonic 2 pic look good...
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 4/11/2009 4:51:32 AM | message detail
Both game fight like cows, Monkey Island will triumph!

It will do what Guybrush never managed to do!

It only needs about 10% of the votes to advance anyway, Super Mario Bros 3 will do a poor show if it can't get above 80% tomorrow.
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The Hardcore Kid | Posted 4/11/2009 5:04:38 AM | message detail
I'm not saying only America matters.

Although to be fair, a High percentage of people on this site think that b/c they're in the ****ing majority.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/11/2009 5:09:59 AM | message detail
It's about time so other guy agree with me about this Europe stuff. I'm starting to regret Geolocation now. People just make a big deal out of other countries now that they can see who votes when all that really mattered was instrinsic strength.

From: creativename | #378
There's really no reason to think CV doing better would mean better things for SF2. 4packs are about LFF and overlap, not hardcore fanbases - unless we're talking about static fanbases from bandwagoning.


Yeah there is. Just look at Gordon Freeman.

We can't just blindly say stats determine everything in four-ways. Some things are hidden such as that.


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Childproof | Posted 4/11/2009 6:30:11 AM | message detail
XD... I wake up to see Civ beating Vania III ..... this is the best upset this contest will see


... ok maybe not, but it's still really amazing
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RockMFR 5 | Posted 4/11/2009 7:32:39 AM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1252

Why was White Night Concerto listed?
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ImplicitContent | Posted 4/11/2009 7:57:48 AM | message detail
Eh. I know you enjoy it oh so much Ulti, but saying it over and over isn't going to convince me since it's really just you saying the same stuff we're saying about Mega Man 2 and 3 and then saying OH BUT SONIC 1-3 ARE REALLY POPULAR THEY'RE NOT THE SAME with no real support other than IT'S OBVIOUS DUH.

I'm sorry, but why wouldn't this be true? Everyone and their mother knows the 2D sonic genesis' are by far the most popular and beloved of the series. It has never been in doubt, while everyone on this board kept arguing over and over again on which MM game should get into the contest. There's literally no difference between MM2, 3, 5, and 6 other than slight personal preference, they're all really the same thing over and over again. The 2D genesis sonic's are a much different story.

I also enjoy how you said him just saying that isn't going to convince you because there's no support for it other than "it's obvious duh" (which honestly, it is), and then go in the next breath and say Sonic is only doing this because Castlevania is doing so poorly (lol wut). Sonic is going to end up winning this match by 10%, a day after countless people were yelling and screaming how Sonic had absolutely no chance, and there weren't any viable arguments for him winning. So please, stop it.

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/11/2009 8:00:12 AM | message detail
Sonic currently has about 54.5% on Street Fighter II. Add in some SFIV awareness and it just might ~= Mario RPG.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/11/2009 8:07:16 AM | message detail
1. Tecmo Super Bowl has like a 2% chance tot get second tomorrow.
2. DMC3>>>DMC, aw yeah

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edwardsdv | Posted 4/11/2009 8:17:08 AM | message detail
The Mega mans are not identical.

No more so than the sonic games anyway. Each Mega Man has its own unique flavor. Mega man 3 introduced R. Coil and the Mega Slide. Fairly big innovations for the series.

Mega Man 5 is completely different in concept and mega man 6 has a store.

And they all have different level design, which roughly the only difference between sonic 1,2 ,and 3.
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eaglesarebeasts | Posted 4/11/2009 8:34:04 AM | message detail
Tails, spindash, bonus levels, powerups, multiplayer, save feature, knuckles, etc.

The sonic series has changed plenty
Big Bob | Posted 4/11/2009 8:54:53 AM | message detail
Are you kidding? All the Mega Man games are exactly the same, save for different levels and robot masters.

Sonic brings in new characters, different types of special stages, multiple pathways through levels depending on what character you use, and a final special stage depending on if you got all the chaos emeralds or not. That's way more innovation than Mega Man had in 1-6.
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Yesmar | Posted 4/11/2009 8:56:01 AM | message detail
Not to sound like a sore loser, but there was definitely logic behind SFII > Sonic. Sonic 2 sucked it up last contest, and since then Sonic has lost to *Kirby,* and Sonic 1 is probably even less popular than Sonic 2. You don't even need X-Stats or anything to have come up with the logic behind this pick.
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Big Bob | Posted 4/11/2009 9:11:03 AM | message detail
"Nobody cares about Street Fighter"
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LeonhartFour | Posted 4/11/2009 9:19:44 AM | message detail
I had a big rant, but I lost it...so...

BOLD PREDICTION: Sonic 1 will be closer to Castlevania 3 than Street Fighter 2!


I actually mentioned this in the Analysis Crew topic when I noticed Lopen and Ed Bellis did this.

...Why in the world did people think this again?

Looks like I was right about Sonic franchise votes!
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transience | Posted 4/11/2009 9:22:37 AM | message detail
pfft, you still went with Street Fighter!
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charmander6000 | Posted 4/11/2009 9:24:34 AM | message detail
If you believe that nothing fishy happened in SMW/Sonic 2 then be my guest.
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Yesmar | Posted 4/11/2009 9:27:56 AM | message detail
SFII'd not that bad with the morning vote anymore?

Time | Sonic the Hedgehog Street Fighter II
01:00 | 54.82% | 45.18%
02:00 | 54.15% | 45.85%
03:00 | 52.15% | 47.85%
04:00 | 52.49% | 47.51%
05:00 | 52.92% | 47.08%
06:00 | 53.80% | 46.20%
07:00 | 54.32% | 45.68%
08:00 | 57.11% | 42.89%
09:00 | 57.52% | 42.48%
10:00 | 57.97% | 42.03%
11:00 | 58.27% | 41.73%
12:00 | 58.21% | 41.79%

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LeonhartFour | Posted 4/11/2009 9:31:50 AM | message detail
As for the SMB3 match,

SMB3: 80%
Monkey Island: 8%
Simcity: 7%
Tecmo Super Bowl: 5%

I'm think there's a better than 50% chance that's what ends up happening.


I think there's about a 5% chance of this happening. You have to understand just how ridiculously high 80% is. I know these games are crap, but at least there's three of them, which is going to make it nigh impossible. 75% is about as high as I see it going. I mean, the leap from 75% to 80% is as large as the leap from 66.6% to 75%.
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