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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 671
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/11/2009 12:26:50 AM | message detail |
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From: Zoma121 | Posted: 4/11/2009 3:22:38 AM | #348 I'm surprised the original didn't make it. That game is LEGENDARY. If franchise nominations were enough to get in Prince of Persia and Monkey Island, I'm stunned the original Castlevania couldn't muster anything up. Maybe Symphony of the Night really is headed for an epic collapse. --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Devil May Cry |
| MnMZero | Posted 4/11/2009 12:32:34 AM | message detail |
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I was always under the impression that CV3 was the most popular out of the NES trilogy amongst the CV fanbase. --- Currently playing: GTAIV, SSBB, MP3, Apollo Justice, FFIVDS, Dracula X |
| Lopen | Posted 4/11/2009 12:33:59 AM | message detail |
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Older gamers like MM2 and 3 (*waves*), but a site filled with 15
year-olds doesn't even know Mega Man exists by this point. When was the
last major Mega Man game to hit the market that you would have poll
faith in? Of ALL the Mega Man games, which ones do you have poll faith
in? Mega Man X came out what... two years before Sonic 3? You can't say new school gamers can't appreciate Mega Man and then turn around and say they love Sonic, because the games are just as old and Sonic hasn't released anything of worth for years and years either. Apples and apples here, Ults. As for the ones I have poll faith in: Mega Man 2, Mega Man 3, Mega Man X. That's it. Mega Man 2 sure looked bad, but stick Pac-Man in here and I have a feeling Sonic looks significantly worse too. You may be right about all this, but your argument doesn't make sense-- there's a REASON we join Sonic and Mega Man at the hip, and it's not just because they're both blue. --- So I lost a bet to creativename (yeah...hardly shocking). Like usual, I should've known better! FACT: Halo 3 was 1000% responsible for Master Chief's boost. |
| Lopen | Posted 4/11/2009 12:36:05 AM | message detail |
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And yeah I'm with MnM on that. I always assumed CV3 was the most
popular too. Even over Super Castlevania. Now, the first Castlevania
might get a bit more cred around here, cause it's the first, but
amongst actual fans CV3 is probably the most popular of the
Castlevanias that aren't Metroidvania. The proof should be in the
nominations, really. It's not like there were board rallies for CV3. --- So I lost a bet to creativename (yeah...hardly shocking). Like usual, I should've known better! FACT: Halo 3 was 1000% responsible for Master Chief's boost. |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/11/2009 12:40:39 AM | message detail |
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No, I'm pretty sure it's because of the blue. --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Devil May Cry |
| Zoma121 | Posted 4/11/2009 12:42:14 AM | message detail |
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"I was always under the impression that CV3 was the most popular out of the NES trilogy amongst the CV fanbase. " Well, it was 1990 without the kind of communication we have today, so the difference was probably localized to people I knew. As someone else said, timing of the system probably had something to do with it, as well (Genesis was already out, SNES came less than a year after CV3's release). |
| Lopen | Posted 4/11/2009 12:43:25 AM | message detail |
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UR RITE ULTI UR RITE IT IS THE BLUE SONIC IS MORE POPULAR CAUSE IT'S MORE POPULAR OBVIOUSLY SO OBVIOUS --- So I lost a bet to creativename (yeah...hardly shocking). Like usual, I should've known better! FACT: Halo 3 was 1000% responsible for Master Chief's boost. |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/11/2009 12:44:26 AM | message detail |
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Yes, it was obvious. Expecting the Sonic games to bomb doesn't make any sense. --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Devil May Cry |
| Lopen | Posted 4/11/2009 12:50:43 AM | message detail |
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But your argument is exactly the same as the people who say the Mega Man games should be strong. Exactly the same. Mega Man hasn't been relevant for years? Neither has Sonic. Sonic has three widely loved games from early in his life? So does Mega Man. Mega Man has a bunch of games that aren't liked? So does Sonic. Was there anything else? I think you just want to blindly claim Sonic is strong so you can say "lol X-Stats" with respect to its SMW match from 5 years ago. --- So I lost a bet to creativename (yeah...hardly shocking). Like usual, I should've known better! FACT: Halo 3 was 1000% responsible for Master Chief's boost. |
| MnMZero | Posted 4/11/2009 12:53:14 AM | message detail |
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(Genesis was already out, SNES came less than a year after CV3's release). You're really underestimating how popular the NES was in 1990. The system didn't die for years. Some of it's most popular games (or at least at the time) came out after 1990. Final Fantasy, SMB3, Ninja Gaiden 2, Castlevania 3, TMNT2, Mega Man 3, Little Nemo The Dream Master <_<;, Battletoads, Crystalis, etc. I don't know why some are under the impression that the NES was dying around 1990. It was at its peak then. --- Currently playing: GTAIV, SSBB, MP3, Apollo Justice, FFIVDS, Dracula X |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/11/2009 12:53:26 AM | message detail |
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I hate to watch Ariel fans fight, but this match is a disgrace and I
can't believe it's happening, so I'm gonna have to side with Lopen
here. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/8zkzm1.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| MnMZero | Posted 4/11/2009 12:55:41 AM | message detail |
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The difference between Sonic and Mega Man is that the three Sonic
Genesis games were much more popular than any single game that Mega Man
has ever had. --- Currently playing: GTAIV, SSBB, MP3, Apollo Justice, FFIVDS, Dracula X |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/11/2009 12:56:15 AM | message detail |
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I SAID THIS MATCH IS A DISGRACE THEY SHOULD WRITE AN ARTICLE ON CNN ABOUT THIS MATCH AND PLACE IS NEXT TO ALL THOSE STORIES ABOUT WOMEN GETTING JAILED FOR THE "CRIME" OF GETTING RAPED IN SAUDI ARABIA SO THAT HUMAN RIGHTS GROUPS CAN COMMENT ON HOW TRULY ABHORRENT THIS MATCH IS. THIS IS WHAT I SAID. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/8zkzm1.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/11/2009 12:56:47 AM | message detail |
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I think you just want to blindly claim Sonic is strong so you can
say "lol X-Stats" with respect to its SMW match from 5 years ago. There's no "blindly" about it. That loss Sonic 2 had to Mario World wasn't the least bit transitive. As for personal taste, I like the Mega Man series a lot more than the Sonic series. Sonic has 3 good games. Mega Man has, uh.... 13, if my math is right. Mega Man 1-8, MMX1-4, and MMX6. So my personal taste says Mega Man games should do fine, but common sense says Mega Man games are a dime a dozen, while the three Sonic Genesis games are all legendary. Maybe the giant mess of recent Sonic games is keeping the guy popular, I dunno. Frankly, today is nothing compared to what Sonic 2 and 3 are fit to pull off. Is there any doubt for those two not seeing the third round together? --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Devil May Cry |
| greatone10 | Posted 4/11/2009 12:57:03 AM | message detail |
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From: MnMZero | Posted: 4/11/2009 12:53:14 AM | #360 People are used to consoles rolling over and dieing as soon as the next generation appears. The NES living long after the release of the SNES is the exception, not the rule. --- Donkey Kong Country 2's path to Best Game Ever '09. vs. Super Mario RPG, Goldeneye, Resident Evil 2. Ugh, my top 3 games in the same match. |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/11/2009 12:57:28 AM | message detail |
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...those two *seeing the third round together, rather --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Devil May Cry |
| Lopen | Posted 4/11/2009 1:00:53 AM | message detail |
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The difference between Sonic and Mega Man is that the three Sonic
Genesis games were much more popular than any single game that Mega Man
has ever had. The problem is I just don't agree with that, and I see no reason to agree with that other than "yeah huh." Unless the Sonic games utterly destroyed the more popular Mega Man games in sales or something. --- So I lost a bet to creativename (yeah...hardly shocking). Like usual, I should've known better! FACT: Halo 3 was 1000% responsible for Master Chief's boost. |
| Lopen | Posted 4/11/2009 1:02:18 AM | message detail |
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if my math is right. Mega Man 1-8, MMX1-4, and MMX6. And what's wrong with MMX5? Better than MMX6 imhhho (along with half the original Mega Mans) --- So I lost a bet to creativename (yeah...hardly shocking). Like usual, I should've known better! FACT: Halo 3 was 1000% responsible for Master Chief's boost. |
| MnMZero | Posted 4/11/2009 1:02:31 AM | message detail |
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People are used to consoles rolling over and dieing as soon as the next generation appears. The NES living long after the release of the SNES is the exception, not the rule. Huh? But we're talking about the NES here. It doesn't matter if it was an exception or not. Castlevania 3 was released when the NES was still booming. --- Currently playing: GTAIV, SSBB, MP3, Apollo Justice, FFIVDS, Dracula X |
| HaRRicH | Posted 4/11/2009 1:04:57 AM | message detail |
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People are used to consoles rolling over and dieing as soon as the
next generation appears. The NES living long after the release of the
SNES is the exception, not the rule. They're used to it now, but not then -- that was the first time we has a chance to test it since video games became cool again, and it was still going strong when Castlevania 3 was released despite the SNES at the time. --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
| greatone10 | Posted 4/11/2009 1:05:20 AM | message detail |
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You asked why people think that the NES died after 1990, and I told you why people think that. --- Donkey Kong Country 2's path to Best Game Ever '09. vs. Super Mario RPG, Goldeneye, Resident Evil 2. Ugh, my top 3 games in the same match. |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/11/2009 1:05:48 AM | message detail |
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From: MnMZero | Posted: 4/11/2009 3:55:41 AM | #362 "much more popular" is an understatement. I still remember when Sonic first came out, and Mario really was in a world of hurt for awhile. Had Sega not imploded (these guys were the benchmark for companies pulling "I'm Keith Hernandez"), Sonic would have come a lot closer to winning. Mega Man games NEVER had even HALF the impact, even at its apex. Even MM2 and 3 were just "cool, another Mega Man game". The lone exception to this was Mega Man X, which to this day is seen as revolutionary. These are the facts. How they translate into today's poll is beyond me, but that's not really my call to make. And sorry if I come across like I'm bragging or anything, because I'm not trying to; I have SF2 > Sonic today. I figured Street Fighter 4 would help its popular brethren get past the guy who happily rolled over and died against Kirby only four months ago. I'm really happy I have SF4 losing in the first round, because the hype for that game has already died off. Sonic and his little friends being just ass backwards awful in this format for two years is hard to ignore, no matter how popular his games are. Street Fighter 2, you are on my list of games never to trust again! *shakes fist* Though speaking of weird results, Sonic losing to Kirby still makes ZERO --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Devil May Cry |
| MnMZero | Posted 4/11/2009 1:05:53 AM | message detail |
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Unless the Sonic games utterly destroyed the more popular Mega Man games in sales or something. They... did. Mega Man games have never been huge sellers. I thought this was common knowledge? Sonic was definitely much bigger than Mega Man back in the day, both in character and games. The only reason Mega Man caught up is because Sonic went completely AWOL during the PSX/N64 era while Sega was failing with the Sega CD/32X/Saturn. By the time Sonic Adventure dropped, the damage was done. But yeah, look up NES and SNES sales numbers. Mega Man games never were huge sellers. I think MMX is the highest selling one, and I think even it sold just 2 million or so. --- Currently playing: GTAIV, SSBB, MP3, Apollo Justice, FFIVDS, Dracula X |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/11/2009 1:06:21 AM | message detail |
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*zero sense to me ****ing goddamn caps lock key being next to tab --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Devil May Cry |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/11/2009 1:09:46 AM | message detail |
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MMX5 is just stupid. I like the simple formula of killing 8 robots and
going to a final fortress, not having some drawn-out storyline
attached. You're on some spaceship and the world will explode if you
don't kill the mavericks in a set number of days? And you're forced to
interchange Sonic and Zero because one of them can go through certain
level traps the other cannot and vice versa? **** that ****. Every
series is allowed one ****-up, and MMX5 is that ****-up for the MMX
series. X7 never happened, shut up. --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Devil May Cry |
| Zoma121 | Posted 4/11/2009 1:11:06 AM | message detail |
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"You're really underestimating how popular the NES was in 1990. The
system didn't die for years. Some of it's most popular games (or at
least at the time) came out after 1990. Final Fantasy, SMB3, Ninja
Gaiden 2, Castlevania 3, TMNT2, Mega Man 3, Little Nemo The Dream
Master <_<;, Battletoads, Crystalis, etc. I don't know why some
are under the impression that the NES was dying around 1990. It was at
its peak then." Where did I say that the NES was dying around 1990? I said the timing of CV3's release in my area was *probably* impacted by the Genesis being out and drawing some people's attention to it, and the upcoming SNES the next year. I don't see why it's such a stretch to think that the new systems along with some of the other releases you mentioned (specifically SMB3 and TMNT 2) could result in less hype about a third CV game in the area I lived in. |
| MnMZero | Posted 4/11/2009 1:12:15 AM | message detail |
| http://vgchartz.com/games/index.php?name=Mega+Man+X&console=SNES®ion=All&developer=&publisher=&genre=&keyword=&boxart=Both&results=50&order=Hits lol vgchartz, I know, but still, just something that shows MM sales. --- Currently playing: GTAIV, SSBB, MP3, Apollo Justice, FFIVDS, Dracula X |
| creativename | Posted 4/11/2009 1:13:56 AM | message detail |
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There's really no reason to think CV doing better would mean better
things for SF2. 4packs are about LFF and overlap, not hardcore fanbases
- unless we're talking about static fanbases from bandwagoning. Super Castlevania IV would have dominated for third place. I don't think this is the case. CV3 is probably the most popular of the NES games, though the original CV would probably be the strongest contest-wise. I don't remember it getting a whole lot. People were pissed off at that series following the abortion known as Simon's Quest. I remember CV3 being pretty hyped and respected back then. I agree with you that Mega Man X is the only Mega Man game worth a damn. The first might not as weak as the other NES games because of "first in the series respect" factor. there's a REASON we join Sonic and Mega Man at the hip I don't I realized we did actually. I guess there are similarities in terms of dying franchises. But the Sonic games were waaay more popular back in the day than the Mega Man games. Vastly more people had Sonic 1 than any Mega Man game. I had SF2 in this match though I thought it was a close call. And it is, relatively speaking; this isn't a slaughter. But I would've taken SF2 over any NES Mega Man game without thinking. SF2 and Sonic 1 are pretty iconic games. No Mega Man game qualifies as iconic by itself (where it transcends the franchise fanbase). That loss Sonic 2 had to Mario World wasn't the least bit transitive. You mean linear. Back in the day I and I think most thought that was SFF as well. Now I'm actually less convinced it was SFF - I think Sonic as a series is just way far off from Mario. But everything is far off from the big three around here. And any SFF there is possibly more generational than anything, so once again any non-big three console game from that era would be similarly SFFed - and only if we didn't have generational brackets would it matter (e.g. if we were seeing Halo 3 vs. Sonic 1 or something). --- Save_Us.RAT BREAK THE BLOCK DOWN |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/11/2009 1:14:37 AM | message detail |
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Lopen, you're a Devil May Cry fan, right? Does DMC2 and 3 have the same
****ty-ass camera that DMC1 does? I feel like the camera is actively
trying its hardest to keep enemies off the screen with stupid
transition spots, allowing them free reign to whip my ass. I kid you not, the fight with Griffon 3 was going great, then the camera stayed in this spot where I saw nothing but Dante and a wall, and Griffon was shooting me in the back for 80% of my health. I did a TON of work to grind red orbs and such (this is the long level where you get that gun that uses devil trigger as ammo, with a bunch of hidden stuff and I redid some rooms to buy Inferno), so I said "**** this ****, you're not cheating me out of winning this", consumed an Untouchable and barely won. KP raves about how good DMC3 is, but I don't want to go in with high expectations if I have to deal with the same ****ty cheating from camera angles. --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Devil May Cry |
| Lopen | Posted 4/11/2009 1:14:40 AM | message detail |
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According to VGChartz: Sonic the Hedgehog: 4.34m Sonic the Hedgehog 2: 6.03m Sonic the Hedgehog 3: 1.74m Mega Man 2: 1.50m Mega Man 3: 1.12m Mega Man X: 1.19m While it's certainly significant, Sonic 2 is the only one close to the range I meant when I said "annihilates it in sales." It's better, but not better enough to claim that the old Sonic games were way more popular on sales alone. Especially Sonic the Hedgehog 3, which barely edges MM2. --- So I lost a bet to creativename (yeah...hardly shocking). Like usual, I should've known better! FACT: Halo 3 was 1000% responsible for Master Chief's boost. |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/11/2009 1:18:04 AM | message detail |
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mega man has never sold well compared to the elite series --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://seitoacademy.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/lucky-star1.jpg |
| Lopen | Posted 4/11/2009 1:18:38 AM | message detail |
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Lopen, you're a Devil May Cry fan, right? Does DMC2 and 3 have the
same ****ty-ass camera that DMC1 does? I feel like the camera is
actively trying its hardest to keep enemies off the screen with stupid
transition spots, allowing them free reign to whip my ass. You shouldn't have any problems with the camera in DMC3. While I do think you exaggerate about the camera in DMC, I will admit it has problems way more often than it should. With DMC3 it is very rare. There's a button to put the camera directly behind you when you need it, but most of the time, you won't need it anyway. To put things in perspective, I have a list of my top 25 games for some random reason, and DMC3 is #4 whereas DMC doesn't place. It really is that much better. You shouldn't be disappointed. --- So I lost a bet to creativename (yeah...hardly shocking). Like usual, I should've known better! FACT: Halo 3 was 1000% responsible for Master Chief's boost. |
| creativename | Posted 4/11/2009 1:19:19 AM | message detail |
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Although I do think SMB3 will hurt Sonic more than SF2. That might or
might not matter depending on how bad SF2 does during the day. Sonic is much more closely related to Mario than SF2 obviously in terms of genre, and SF2 also had its absurdly long lifespan/number of releases and the arcade aspect. --- Save_Us.RAT BREAK THE BLOCK DOWN |
| HaRRicH | Posted 4/11/2009 1:20:15 AM | message detail |
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Yeah, the MM-games have only four games that broke the million-mark according to Capcom: MM2, MM3, MMX, and MMBN4 (really?!). http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/52832 The Sonic games do have Mega Man killed on sales and importance to the industry, but GameFAQs has shown many a time that these factors haven't always meant much. --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/11/2009 1:20:44 AM | message detail |
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Those numbers make me feel a lot better about MMX vs Link's Awakening.
Zelda or not, Pokemon RBY is the only handheld game I have any respect
for. Well that and Tetris, obviously. The craziest thing is Sonic 3 & Knuckles, or Sonic and Knuckles, or whatever the hell game it's really called, would dominate any "favorite Sonic" poll held here. I think we're in for some major Sonic 2/3 beatings in the first two rounds, and I won't be at all surprised if Sonic 2 finishes in first place above Final Fantasy 6 in Round 2. I doubt it'll actually happen, but I won't be surprised if it does. --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Devil May Cry |
| MnMZero | Posted 4/11/2009 1:21:49 AM | message detail |
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Don't forget that the video game industry wasn't as big as it is now.
4.34m is absolutely huge back then. In comparison, VGChartz shows LttP
sold 4.61m. Sonic was definitely one of the biggest games in the
industry back then. --- Currently playing: GTAIV, SSBB, MP3, Apollo Justice, FFIVDS, Dracula X |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/11/2009 1:22:08 AM | message detail |
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This just goes to show that sonic the character has gone down in recent
years due to his piss poor efforts recently but people still love the
classic games --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://seitoacademy.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/lucky-star1.jpg |
| Zoma121 | Posted 4/11/2009 1:25:09 AM | message detail |
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Do sales numbers really matter that much for non-recent games, though? SF 2 sold 6.3 million units (about 12.5 million if you count the two other SNES editions), and still got edged out by Sonic, in the end. |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/11/2009 1:25:59 AM | message detail |
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with emulation, not really I don't think Chrono Trigger even hit a million in america and look where it is now --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://seitoacademy.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/lucky-star1.jpg |
| creativename | Posted 4/11/2009 1:26:02 AM | message detail |
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It's better, but not better enough to claim that the old Sonic games were way more popular on sales alone. But they just *were* vastly more popular. It's not a debatable thing, they were more popular in every possible way, and it wasn't remotely close. and I won't be at all surprised if Sonic 2 finishes in first place above Final Fantasy 6 in Round 2. I doubt it'll actually happen, but I won't be surprised if it does. You're getting totally carried away :) --- Save_Us.RAT BREAK THE BLOCK DOWN |
| Lopen | Posted 4/11/2009 1:26:19 AM | message detail |
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True, but you must realize that I'm only thinking in proportional
sales. Triple the sales is nice, but it's not total destruction. 1.5
million is a ton, especially, as you said, way back then. Plus Sonic 1
and Sonic 2 were packaged with the thing for a time if I recall
correctly, whereas Mega Man 2 was just a really good game that earned
all of its sales. I see an advantage, but I don't see it as decisive enough to say "old Sonic is and should be more popular this is obvious" --- So I lost a bet to creativename (yeah...hardly shocking). Like usual, I should've known better! FACT: Halo 3 was 1000% responsible for Master Chief's boost. |
| ZFS | Posted 4/11/2009 1:26:39 AM | message detail |
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I won't be at all surprised if Sonic 2 finishes in first place above
Final Fantasy 6 in Round 2. I doubt it'll actually happen, but I won't
be surprised if it does. Sounds like we're getting carried away again. Sonic beating SFII doesn't make it a powerhouse. --- http://i44.tinypic.com/sficrr.jpg |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/11/2009 1:27:06 AM | message detail |
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according to vgchartz CT only sold 280k in america on snes thats hard to believe.. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://seitoacademy.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/lucky-star1.jpg |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/11/2009 1:28:25 AM | message detail |
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I'm not exaggerating, and my friend was here tonight witnessing how ridiculous it truly is. At the beginning of some level, there's this scythe guy that forces you to jump to him Samus-style, then *****-slaps you with his scythe. Not only did the camera prevent me from seeing what I was doing, but I kept falling into that stupid hole in the ground by accident. I eventually just won by aiming blindly with Air Raid. Nelo Angelo 2. Very small arena to fight in, and I couldn't win before confining the fight to that semi-big area near the fountain. I had to avoid a ton of blue shots with blind double jumps, and again resorted to cheesing with long Alastor devil trigger combos. Griffon 3 was THE absolute worst. I **** you not, the game stuck me in an inescapable camera angle with Dante against a wall that wouldn't change no matter what I did. This was after ripping Griffon's wing off, so he was in berserker mode. It's hard enough avoiding his stuff when you can see it, but it's impossible when you're being backstabbed. Cue use of Untouchable and blind Air Raid to kill off his last 35% of health before dying; one more hit would have killed me. So yes, I'm happy to hear DMC3's camera doesn't suck balls. I'm having a ton of fun when I can actually see what's going on. --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Devil May Cry |
| ZFS | Posted 4/11/2009 1:28:37 AM | message detail |
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Yep. Those numbers are from Square. In comparison, FFVI did about 800k over here. --- http://i44.tinypic.com/sficrr.jpg |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/11/2009 1:29:32 AM | message detail |
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What's stopping Sonic 3 from being within 5% of FF6 in that poll? And if anything, the presence of LA/MMX will leech FF6. --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Devil May Cry |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/11/2009 1:30:08 AM | message detail |
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damn rpgs were niche back then --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://seitoacademy.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/lucky-star1.jpg |
| ZFS | Posted 4/11/2009 1:30:19 AM | message detail |
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...What? Why? --- http://i44.tinypic.com/sficrr.jpg |
| MnMZero | Posted 4/11/2009 1:32:17 AM | message detail |
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Ulti, wait until you get to Nightmare. I quit playing the game after
that. When a game starts to suck all the joy of playing it in the first
place away, it's time to put it on the shelf. --- Currently playing: GTAIV, SSBB, MP3, Apollo Justice, FFIVDS, Dracula X |
| Lopen | Posted 4/11/2009 1:33:46 AM | message detail |
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Yeah, there are definitely times it screws you... my main problem with
DMC was the platforming because of that reason. Very rarely would the
camera get "wedged behind a wall" like it did with you and Griffon but
I know what you mean. Thankfully not only does DMC3 have a much better camera (I don't think I've ever had it get wedged behind a wall) but it also has a lot less platforming kinda stuff. Oh, and the gameplay and story are like 10x better without considering the camera. Buy today! --- So I lost a bet to creativename (yeah...hardly shocking). Like usual, I should've known better! FACT: Halo 3 was 1000% responsible for Master Chief's boost. |
