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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 671
| trannyscience | Posted 4/10/2009 4:49:14 PM | message detail |
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6 and 7 are also up. --- xyzzy http://i42.tinypic.com/2vbwhn4.jpg |
| LordOfDabu | Posted 4/10/2009 4:49:23 PM | message detail |
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| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/10/2009 4:50:18 PM | message detail |
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I did FInal Fantasy and Prince of Persia. I know Zen did a few. Just a sec, let me compile a list. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/10/2009 4:50:43 PM | message detail |
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I dont see any pics that stand otu to really hurt or help any of the games --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://seitoacademy.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/lucky-star1.jpg |
| ZenOfThunder | Posted 4/10/2009 4:56:32 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, I got Castlevania III and Battletoads. Two that I barely worked on. And Bacon rejects the ones I slave over a hot Photoshop for... sigh. --- (|| ' ' ||) Not changing my sig until EBA2/Ouendan 3 is announced. (4/22/08) . /|_|\ http://imgcake.com/img/40/all_eba.jpg |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/10/2009 4:56:47 PM | message detail |
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Castlevania III: Zen Civilization: Xuxon Sonic: ? Street Fighter II: ? Pic 6 is all unknowns. Battletoads: Zen Final Fantasy: me Prince of Persia: me Super Mario World: Coffee Ninja Non-Board 8ers have really stepped up the pace since last contest. I remember in the early matches nearly every pic selected was from B8. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/10/2009 4:56:57 PM | message detail |
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From: ZenOfThunder | #055 which was that --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://seitoacademy.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/lucky-star1.jpg |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/10/2009 5:00:50 PM | message detail |
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From: KamikazePotato | #056 Let's just say I have somebody I know that does these as well. --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: LoZ > Contra - Points: 10/12 Vote: Contra |
| ZenOfThunder | Posted 4/10/2009 5:00:59 PM | message detail |
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I think it was my awesome Liquid Snake round 1 last year. Justin made a melty one that got accepted. ;_; --- (|| ' ' ||) Not changing my sig until EBA2/Ouendan 3 is announced. (4/22/08) . /|_|\ http://imgcake.com/img/40/all_eba.jpg |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/10/2009 5:08:43 PM | message detail |
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Ah, Xuxon made Sonic 1. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/10/2009 5:16:21 PM | message detail |
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I dont see any pics that stand otu to really hurt or help any of the games SimCity looks hideous and Tecmo has a black receiver (because it worked so well for Carl Johnson). I'd give the slight pic advantage to Monkey Island. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| JaKyL25 | Posted 4/10/2009 5:18:25 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, SimCity's not in any sort of position where the pic will help or hurt much, but if it was, MAN would that pic hurt. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. Quest For a Second Championship: OWNED by FastFalcon. |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 4/10/2009 5:22:58 PM | message detail |
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I don't think a pixelated sprite of Guybrush is much of a picture advantage, but I agree the other two pics aren't great. (Let's go Mario 3 eat up enough so Monkey Island can with with 8%) --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/10/2009 5:24:48 PM | message detail |
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That's why I said slight pic advantage. It helps that SimCity looks like a cheap Fisher-Price toy. Feeling more confident about Mario 3 to get 80% than ever before aw yeah --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| JaKyL25 | Posted 4/10/2009 5:25:56 PM | message detail |
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If it was determined that this pic altered the match outcome, it would be forever referred to as Sim****ty --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. Quest For a Second Championship: OWNED by FastFalcon. |
| ZFS | Posted 4/10/2009 5:27:17 PM | message detail |
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Haha. SimCity looks awful. What happened there. Ken and Ryu for SFII's pic is good stuff, though. Old school Sonic doesn't look too bad either. --- http://i41.tinypic.com/zk6ct3.gif |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 4/10/2009 6:21:40 PM | message detail |
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After reading all of these arguments regarding Sonic 1 vs. SFII, I've
concluded that both sides are very confident for practically no reason,
and there's no reason to say that neither side has a chance. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/10/2009 6:25:52 PM | message detail |
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From: LeonhartFour | #067 lol wut --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://seitoacademy.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/lucky-star1.jpg |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/10/2009 6:26:18 PM | message detail |
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After reading all of these arguments regarding Sonic 1 vs. SFII,
I've concluded that both sides are very confident for practically no
reason, and there's no reason to say that neither side has a chance. Hey, I had plenty of points. Most of the Sonic points I've seen are people mistaking Sonic 1 for Sonic 2. >_> --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 4/10/2009 6:29:35 PM | message detail |
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Using 2004 Games Contest stats tells me nothing, and that's ALL SFII supporters have. Not convinced. I'd sooner believe in Sonic's franchise voting pulling through before I'd believe in that. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/10/2009 6:31:01 PM | message detail |
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So using actual contest performances is pointless. But believing in that Sonic franchise voting that's been SO STRONG lately? Yeah, that's smart. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 4/10/2009 6:31:23 PM | message detail |
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Using 2004 Games Contest stats tells me nothing, and that's ALL SFII supporters have. Hell yes brother! Please tell me you've continued the tradition of having Sonic games going one step further then they should be going. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| trannyscience | Posted 4/10/2009 6:31:43 PM | message detail |
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yeah, the whole last topic was kind of a disaster. let's all agree to never use game contest stats again and leave it at that. --- xyzzy http://i42.tinypic.com/2vbwhn4.jpg |
| charmander6000 | Posted 4/10/2009 6:31:54 PM | message detail |
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Match V: Castlevania III vs. Civilization vs. Sonic the Hedgehog vs. Street Fighter II Information: Name: Castlevania III Year: 1990 System: NES 2004 Performance: Did not enter Name: Civilization Year: 1990 System: PC 2004 Performance: Did not enter Name: Sonic the Hedgehog Year: 1991 System: GEN 2004 Performance: Did not enter Name: Street Fighter II Year: 1991 System: Arcade 2004 Performance: 43.76% against Super Mario RPG Analysis The second division brings the end of the NES and the beginning of SNES and GEN wars. Also out of the first six divisions this division has the fewest returning games (5 as oppose to 8-10 in other divisions). This is the first match where first place is not set in stone and the filler third place match is also in question. Proceeding into the useless match Castlevania III and Civilization have no chance at placing in this match, but they could make things interesting in a fight for third place. Civilization should’ve been in the first division, but was swapped for DWIII for whatever reason. It’s not like either game would’ve performed any different in either division. Anyway I don’t see Civilization having much strength; it was nothing special in the series contest and the first game is nowhere close in popularity to the most famous one. Castlevania III on the other hand is often said to be the second best Castlevania game behind SotN so it should have enough strength to defeat Civilization, but it won’t be enough to challenge Street Fighter II or Sonic 1. SotN was loved by non-Castlevania fans while Castlevania III is only remembered by true Castlevania fans which will be reflected in the results. The match for first can potentially be interesting, but more likely it could be over by the first 30 minutes. Sonic and Sonic characters perform terribly in this format as seen in the past two character battles. Sonic games are expected to follow suit and like Mega Man 2 just because the character is super strong does not make all the games in the series strong. Sonic is however different from Mega Man where as Mega Man has tons of games where fans often dispute which is the best Sonic on the other hand only has Sonic 2 and Sonic 3 & Knuckles to argue as the favourite. Sonic 1 is probably next on the hierarchy of games, but it won’t be enough to defeat Street Fighter II. Had this been Sonic 2 I probably would’ve taken the upset. Street Fighter II is the only game in this match to appear in the previous contest and while it was the underdog against SMRPG that didn’t stop fans from whining on how Street Fighter II lost. As for this match it is the favourite and as long as it doesn’t choke it should take first. Since the last contest Street Fighter IV has been released reminding fans of the series. Had this been a match against Sonic 2 or 3 I would be worried, but with Sonic 1 Street Fighter II shouldn’t have a problem winning considering Sonic’s recent failings in this format. Expect higher vote totals in this division compare to the previous. We have three well known series and first place isn’t going to dominate. Street Fighter II should win, though I wouldn’t be surprised if Sonic 1 took first. Sonic 1’s performance will be closely watched as Sonic 2 and 3 both have debatable matches in rounds 1 and 2 so hopefully it won’t turn out like another Mega Man. charmander6000’s Bracket: Street Fighter II > Sonic the Hedgehog charmander6000’s Prediction: Street Fighter II – 37.48%, Sonic the Hedgehog – 33.83%, Castlevania III – 15.84%, Civilization – 12.85% --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ > Contra Points: 10/12 |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 4/10/2009 6:32:30 PM | message detail |
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1. Comparing SFII to Sonic 2, which may have been heavily SFF'd, isn't the brightest thing to do. 2. They're five year old stats. They're obsolete. 3. Those are one-on-one stats. Completely worthless here. Yeah. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 4/10/2009 6:34:33 PM | message detail |
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Please tell me you've continued the tradition of having Sonic games going one step further then they should be going. Uhhh...Actually, I don't have any Sonic games getting first place in any match. I actually have SFII in first place tomorrow, but I think it'll be close. I just don't understand what in the world causes people to think SFII is more than a midtier game. Ryu is strong because he's iconic. Every other SF character is low midcarder. Yeah, games =/= characters, but Ryu is the only one who's strong for a reason. This is a battle of two games that aren't THAT popular, and franchise votes WILL matter here. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/10/2009 6:35:23 PM | message detail |
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| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/10/2009 6:36:02 PM | message detail |
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using 2004 contest stats is flattering to sonic since he wasn't so pathetic then --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://seitoacademy.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/lucky-star1.jpg |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/10/2009 6:36:58 PM | message detail |
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1. Comparing SFII to Sonic 2, which may have been heavily SFF'd, isn't the brightest thing to do. 2. They're five year old stats. They're obsolete. 3. Those are one-on-one stats. Completely worthless here. Valid points. However, what you basically did is say that the people who were actually trying to prove something using previous contest results (and some guesswork, admittedly) were as bad as people going IT'S SONIC. I'd suggest you put a little more thought into statements like that - and maybe actually be consistent with it, considering we've been tentatively using 2004 stats in all four matches up until now and I haven't seen you bash people for it at all. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/10/2009 6:37:08 PM | message detail |
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btw seems we're gonna hit 120k for first time in the contest today! --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://seitoacademy.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/lucky-star1.jpg |
| charmander6000 | Posted 4/10/2009 6:39:24 PM | message detail |
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btw seems we're gonna hit 120k for first time in the contest today! I think we're going to barely miss it. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ > Contra Points: 10/12 |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/10/2009 7:11:34 PM | message detail |
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Leonhart is right about franchise votes.. especially in this match. You
essentially have two unpopular games vs two popular games. In that
case, if you like very few choices, you're going to vote for your
favorite franchise. It's sort of like a Gordon Freeman thing. If there
are no strong entrants around him, he does worse, but when there are
stronger, more recognizable entrants, he performs better (beating
Ganondorf). I can easily see this being a close match just because people who've not heard of the other two and don't like Street Fighter give Sonic the vote because it's 2D Sonic. --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: LoZ > Contra - Points: 10/12 Vote: Contra |
| LinkLegend27 | Posted 4/10/2009 7:16:05 PM | message detail |
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Sonic has a great pic. I can't wait till the result is Sonic > Castlevania. --- Fortes in Unitate. I ain't conceited only positive and way better |
| Masato_Tanaka | Posted 4/10/2009 7:22:26 PM | message detail |
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oh my LORD Battletoads has the pic advantage. This is gonna be tremendous. --- The Straight Up G The Palace of Wisdom Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/10/2009 7:23:56 PM | message detail |
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It's just the Genesis boxart.. --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: LoZ > Contra - Points: 10/12 Vote: Contra |
| Masato_Tanaka | Posted 4/10/2009 7:25:10 PM | message detail |
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yeah but that's literally the cheesiest picture ever --- The Straight Up G The Palace of Wisdom Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| HaRRicH | Posted 4/10/2009 7:35:06 PM | message detail |
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I had a big rant, but I lost it...so... BOLD PREDICTION: Sonic 1 will be closer to Castlevania 3 than Street Fighter 2! --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
| Master Moltar | Posted 4/10/2009 7:36:03 PM | message detail |
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Division 2: Round 1 - Match 5 – Castlevania 3 vs. Civilization vs. Sonic the Hedgehog vs. Street Fighter 2 Moltar’s Analysis Castlevania 3 2004 Results: N/A How will something Castlevania that’s not SOTN fare? Civilization 2004 Results: N/A Not as good as Empire Sonic 2004 Results: N/A Where it all began for the Blue Blur SF2 2004 Results: Lost in Round 1 against Super Mario RPG Obligatory “OMG SF2 LOST?!?!?!” quote This match is all about Sonic and Street Fighter 2. Both games are advancing, the question is which one takes first. Castlevania beats out Civ solely due to namesake, but those two will be quite behind the big games here. I’m going to be honest here. This match is pretty much a toss-up in my eyes. We have some old data for SF2, but old-school Sonic in this current age is tough to judge. It’s no surprise that Sonic has been doing worse in Contests because of the less-than-stellar quality of the Sonic games being released these days. Still, the old-school games do get tons of love due to nostalgia. However, SF2 is like a fine wine, getting HD and turbo with age. Not only do the SF2 remakes keep the game fresh, but it’s also got Street Fighter 4 (son) in its corner. Alright, let’s rewind and look at 2004 for a minute. SF2 lost against Super Mario RPG in an Ulti-style blowout. SMRPG then went on to get doubled by Chrono Trigger. Doesn’t look good for SF2, eh? Well, Sonic 2, which is most likely stronger than Sonic 1, got beat 70-30 by Super Mario World, and that only got 41% on CT. Obviously, the amount of SFF here is in question with Mario/Sonic and SNES RPGs, so 2004 really doesn’t help with this match. So basically this match comes down to which game you believe is stronger at the moment. Personally, I like Sonic here. The older games get lots of love, and it’s more played on the site than SF2. Plus Sonic is just more popular than SF on GameFAQs. The big questions here are 1) how important is SF2’s relevance today, with Street Fighter 2 HD Turbo Ultra Giga Mondo Hadouken Edition LIVE Remix and all the remakes keeping the spirit of SF2? 2) What role, if any, with SF4’s release play? The increased SF fan traffic could push this close match in SF’s favor. Moltar’s Bracket Says: Sonic 1 > Street Fighter 2 Moltar’s Prediction is: Sonic 1: 36% - SF2: 34% - Castlevania 3: 18% - Civilization: 12% Heroic Mario’s Analysis This is probably the first real good match we've had all contest, if only because the top two games are potentially fighting for first. It probably won't end up that way, but there's at least two notable games here for a change. I doubt we'll see a blowout in any case, something like MM2/Pac-Man instead. As far as who takes first, I'm confident enough in Street Fighter. Some people have gotten a little worried about Sonic with how big franchise voting has played so far (Zelda > Metroid woo), but I don't think that's going to make much difference here. It'll be present, but after Mega Man sucked it up, Sonic shouldn't be expected to fare much better, even if his series likely to stronger. There's a number of points you can make in Street Fighter's favor, too, ones that hard pretty hard to argue against. It's got the name, it's got the fans, and it even has a 'recency' factor going for it with HD Remix and SFIV. SFII was also played by practically everybody, and it's a great game in its own right on top of that. That's a big advantage -- when you have playership and you're generally viewed as a great game. This isn't a Pac-Man situation. Added to all of this is the fact that it's up against Sonic 1, not the more popular Sonic 2 or Sonic 3. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 4/10/2009 7:36:28 PM | message detail |
| I find it pretty hard to argue for Sonic here. It
can't use its iconic status, or its widespread popularity, over
something like Street Fighter, meaning it has to rely on its own
quality and fans. Given how sorry Sonic has looked lately, the safe
choice has gotta be SF. Street Fighter II -- 45% Sonic the Hedgehog -- 30% Castlevania III -- 15% Civilization -- 10% Bracket: Street Fighter II > Sonic the Hegehog Favorites: Street Fighter II > Castlevania III Lopen’s Analysis Ss and Cs battle out for ultimate gameplay supremacy! ... yeah!! So I think the blue rat is being highly considered for first place here, but I just don't see that happening. Sonic's been droppin every year, the other boy in blue failed big time, and unlike his blue brother Sonic has already had a chance with his games in these contests and utterly blew it. Not to mention, Sonic will be the weakest Sonic entry of the original trilogy by a good little bit-- no stats to back this up that I know of, these are just the stats of life talking. Meanwhile, in the red corner, M Bison and Ken are spitting on Sonic's blue. Street Fighter 2 is fresh off the momentum of the smash hit STREET FITAH 4 SON, so it's got that in its favor here. The format should also help the devoted Street Fighter 2 fanbase out, if we needed more nails in the blue man group's coffin. No... no... what I think Sonic needs to be concerning himself is Castlevania 3. Just admit it, Castlevania 3 beating Sonic here would be way past cool. I mean, the series is a pretty popular one here. Castlevania 3 is arguably the most popular one this side of SotN. ... that's about it, really. I don't really have anything to support it either way, I just think Castlevania 3 is being underrated here... with all the star power of DRACULA and his curse (way cooler than a mummy's curse) Sonic shouldn't have to try too hard to choke this one away. Lost in this battle is Civilization. That's right, Civilization itself is lost. I'll enjoy watching Civilization crumble here. Street Fighter 2 will ruin Civilization. Ha ha ha ha yeah, that's about all the entertainment this game is giving us. What a title! Lopen's Prediction: STREET FITAH 2 SON – 37.19% Hedgehogs can't defeat Sheng Long to save their life – 26.99% Castlevania 3 – 22.66% Civilization – 13.16% Transience’s Analysis Division 1 has made one thing very clear -- when it comes to old games, the name means more than the game. Donkey Kong is just not a very good game, but it beat Punch-Out. Metroid 1 is whoa no thanks, but it beat Contra despite Zelda being there. Mega Man is a franchise of the past and thus flopped; there is no way Metroid 1 is actually more popular than Mega Man 2, but thanks to the name it probably wins a one-on-one match. Which brings us to today's question - which "name" is bigger, Sonic or Street Fighter? I say it's Sonic. Yeah, I know Sonic's bombed left and right these last two years. But Street Fighter's not really any better - SF2 is perennially overrated. Sure, SF4 came out and sure, it sold a good amount of copies. But those people don't come to GameFAQs - fighting games just aren't that big here. Sonic isn't anything to brag about either, but at least you see people care about how bad his games have gotten. SF2/4 has a few faithful fans that are very vocal (hello), but really, it's a pretty niche audience. SF4 has bombed in every poll it's been in and SF2 quite famously lost to a fourth-tier Mario game. |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 4/10/2009 7:37:00 PM | message detail |
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BOLTALIC PREDICTION: Castlevania III > Sonic 1! (Okay so I don't believe that has much of a chance of happening but Harrich simply wasn't bold enough!) --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
| Master Moltar | Posted 4/10/2009 7:37:07 PM | message detail |
| On the other hand, people actively complain about
Sonic because they legitimately love the older games. I don't think
they'd stand up too well if put against a series that people were
really into, but most people are not big on Street Fighter. I've also
heard the complaint that Sonic 1 is inferior to Sonic 2 & 3, but I
don't think that even matters much -- after all, Mario 1 is inferior to
Mario 3 and it just dropped 70%. In a battle of franchise voting, I'll
side with Sonic. I'm going against my bracket here, but I just feel
some weird kind of SF2 deja vu here. Maybe picking against my bracket will actually make it be correct for once! Street Fighter II lost? it's about to lose again and to Sonic, ouch transience's prediction: Sonic the Hedgehog - 43% Street Fighter II - 38% Castlevania III - 10% Civilization - 9% Leon’s Analysis Castlevania III: Dracula’s Curse: I don’t know much of anything about the Castlevania series since I’ve never played one (though I’ve wanted to, just never have yet). The series has proven that it’s pretty popular in the Series Contest and various POTDs, but it seems like the game of choice has always been Symphony of the Night. Considering Alucard’s been the only Castlevania character with any strength, I don’t think many of the other games will be that strong. I don’t think it’s got much of a chance to advance here. Civilization: I don’t know much about this series either, other than that it barely got 10% on the Legend of Zelda series back in the Series Contest. Looking at the other rare polls involving Civilization, it doesn’t seem to be that popular on GameFAQs. It seems to be destined for a last place finish here. Sonic the Hedgehog: I’m not sure what to think of the original Sonic. According to a POTD, about 88% of the site has played it, so playrate won’t be an issue here. The question is how well it’s liked. According to an OLD (as in, 2001) poll, the original Sonic game finished well behind Sonic 2 and Sonic & Knuckles, but around the same level as Sonic 3 and Sonic Adventure 1. Not sure what to think of that. Of course, it’s probably the same situation as the original Mario Bros. If you like 2-D Sonic games, you probably like the original; it’s just not your favorite. My main concern is Sonic’s recent downward spiral on this site, and the fact that the games themselves have never done so hot when put into polls involving other games. In that Favorite 2-D Platformer Series poll, Sonic barely beat Castlevania and lost cleanly to Mega Man. I think this may be our first really close match for first place here. Street Fighter II: With the recent release of Street Fighter IV, Street Fighter awareness may be at an all-time high on GameFAQs. Of course, having a top-ranked FAQ here doesn’t mean much in these contests (Pokemon and San Andreas can attest to this), but it’s always nice to have. Like Sonic, Street Fighter is a series that nearly everyone’s played, but it’s not the most favored. This is a tough decision, honestly. I wouldn’t take Sonic 1 over Mario RPG either. I can’t really find anything decisive that points to one series over another other than Sonic being stronger than Ryu, but games =/= characters and all that. This is just a gut instinct pick, but I’m going with SFII to win. Leonhart’s Vote: Street Fighter II, son! Leonhart’s Prediction: Castlevania III: Dracula’s Curse – 18.13% Civilization – 15.31% Sonic the Hedgehog – 33.12% Street Fighter II – 33.44% Ed Bellis’s Analysis And now we move to the even more aptly named “1988-1991” Division, a weird fusion between the end of 8-bit the beginning of 16. Hopefully this division will be more of a cake than the previous one, as there’s a clear-cut first- and second-place winner in all but one of the matches. Let’s see what wonders the first match holds! |
| Master Moltar | Posted 4/10/2009 7:37:29 PM | message detail |
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Castlevania III. It’s the third iteration in the Castlevania
series, which introduces us to Alucard, he of Symphony of the Night
fame. Barring a catastrophic performance by Sonic 1 (which certainly
isn’t out of the question), it’s safe to write this game off as third
place. Civilization. Hey, remember when the Civ series got curbstomped by the Zelda series? The former definitely has a fanbase here, but it’s not enough to make that much of a difference in this match. Sonic the Hedgehog. The original game that introduced us to Sega’s answer to Mario, Sonic 1 is untested. Its sequel got tripled by Super Mario World in a one-on-one poll, and Sonic tends to bomb in four-ways, so I doubt the game gets any higher than second. Street Fighter II. Here to avenge its loss to Super Mario RPG – and fresh in the public eye thanks to STREETFIGHTAFOWA – is the first notable game of its kind, and my pick for first place. SF2 not only stands out from the rest of the pack the most, it’s also probably the most well-known game of the bunch – which, as we’ve seen from the first four matches, helps a ton. Street Fighter will take first, but what of Sonic’s fate? Will the characters’ pitiful four-way performances transfer to their games? I won’t take the Castlevania upset just yet, but I won’t rule it out as a possibility. With the presence of Mario 3 next round Sonic’s as good as dead in the water anyway (cue the DROWNING MUSIC). Prediction: Hey Sonic, can I borrow a hammer? Castlevania III with 21.13% Civilization with 16.06% Sonic the Hedgehog with 24.23% Street Fighter II with 38.58% Guest’s Analysis - Yoblazer Hey, guys. No small talk - let's just get down to business. Our first Division 2 match pits together Castlevania III, Civilization, Sonic the Hedgehog, and Street Fighter II. Now, barring a pretty significant (although not impossible) upset, I feel this is one of those cases where the top two are pretty safe, but their order is up for debate. In this case, those top two are probably Sonic and Street Fighter II. Civilization is a very niche series here, and as Dragon Warrior III is showing us right now, that's a bonafide death sentence when we're dealing with games. Reaching 10% should be considered a healthy goal and a moral victory for the oldie strategy game. Castlevania III, on the other hand, actually has a shot at making some noise. As a series, Castlevania could conceivably challenge Sonic. I know the Series Contest has some wonked out stats, but I'd take a series that easily beat Halo and held tough against Kingdom Hearts to give Sonic a fight. That said, when you break them down to individual games, I think Castlevania is just a bit too diluted and loses its luster. Huge series, been around forever, but outside of Symphony of the Night (the series linchpin), I don't see much individual threat, and I don't see too realistic a chance of this one threatening. Which brings us to our big two competitors, Sonic the Hedgehog and Street Fighter II. Five years ago, Sonic probably goes in as a favorite and takes this, but times have changed. I'll only dwell on the 2004 games contest a bit, one sentence for each game. I think Sonic 2 was indeed SFF'd by Mario World and that back then, the game was stronger than the final result indicated. That said, I also think Mario RPG, the game that gave Street Fighter II its infamous loss, could have taken any Sonic game. Seems like a case could be made for either game, but once again, times have changed, son. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 4/10/2009 7:38:08 PM | message detail |
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While Street Fighter has seemed stable over the years, Sonic has seen
fit to jump off every pit of despair it could find. Bad release after
bad release have plagued the series. Its characters, once excellent
upper midcarders capable of beating tough opponents, have degraded into
jokes. They blow ass in this format, get SFF'd by everything under the
Nintendo sun, and SERIOUSLY BLOW ASS IN THIS FORMAT. Sonic Team's
pathetic performances in 4ways (2008 was an unmitigated disgrace) do
lower my confidence in their games, whether characters = games or not.
Now, if we combine that with Street Fighter IV's recent release, the
fact that Castlevania has a lot more in common with Sonic than it does
with Street Fighter, and the fact that we just witnessed Mega Man 2 bomb royally... I'd say that's enough ammo to go with a comfy Street Fighter II win. BONUS MY TOP THREE SF THEMES BONUS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iof5pRAIZmw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBZsX3IR2PA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEVchjpWaJo Civilization - 9% Castlevania III - 22% Sonic the Hedgehog - 31% Street Fighter II - 38% Crew Consensus: SF2 > Sonic is the majority. However, Moltar and Tran have Sonic winning. Does old-school Sonic still have it, or will SF’s relevance win it the match. |
| creativename | Posted 4/10/2009 8:08:57 PM | message detail |
| So I was messing with stats for the SMB3 match.
Giving SMB3 it's old value of 39.9%, setting SimCity=Civilization 2K6
of 10.03%, Tecmo Bowl=Madden 2K6 of 7.14%, and Monkey Island at
Guybrush 2K4's 6.94%, we get this: http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/53?input_values=SMB3%3D39.9%0D%0ASimCity%3D10.03%0D%0ATecmo%3D7.14%0D%0ASoMI%3D6.94 SMB3 - 74.779% SimCity - 10.75% Tecmo - 7.348% SoMI - 7.123% Wow. Now those estimates are of course going way off, but still, these games are craptastic...SMB3 could establish a 4pack record that will be unbreakable. --- Save_Us.RAT BREAK THE BLOCK DOWN |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/10/2009 8:11:09 PM | message detail |
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simcity is way stronger then Civilization, btw. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://seitoacademy.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/lucky-star1.jpg |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/10/2009 8:11:29 PM | message detail |
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Hey, I love Cammy's theme, too! --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: LoZ > Contra - Points: 10/12 Vote: Contra |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/10/2009 8:12:11 PM | message detail |
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simcity is way stronger then Civilization, btw. Yeah, maybe 10 years ago it was. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| creativename | Posted 4/10/2009 8:21:31 PM | message detail |
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The fact that a SFII clone (which I doubt was rallied) originally made the bracket suggests to me that it'll be pretty strong. Which game was this? --- Save_Us.RAT BREAK THE BLOCK DOWN |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/10/2009 8:22:04 PM | message detail |
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From: creativename | #098 super street fighter 2 turbo was originally in the spot Mortal Kombat 2 took --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://seitoacademy.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/lucky-star1.jpg |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 4/10/2009 8:23:43 PM | message detail |
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Super Street Fighter II Turbo, I think. Mortal Kombat II replaced it. --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
