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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 670
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 4/9/2009 11:10:08 PM | message detail |
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I got suck crazy minus percentages --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/9/2009 11:30:03 PM | message detail |
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I guess we were bound to have a boring match one of these days oh well --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://seitoacademy.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/lucky-star1.jpg |
| creativename | Posted 4/9/2009 11:31:12 PM | message detail |
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Ok, should be fixed now. Here's an example for the last match, setting SMB=LoZ from last contest, Ninja Gaiden=Duck Hunt, and using Duck Hunt and Galaga's values from last contest. http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/53?input_values=34.49%0D%0A8.93%0D%0A8.93%0D%0A7.63 Output: 70.334% 10.459% 10.459% 8.747% So SMB(=LoZ) octuples Galaga in this output, which is the same ratio as what LoZ would've been expected to get 1v1 on Galaga last contest. --- Save_Us.RAT BREAK THE BLOCK DOWN |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/9/2009 11:32:21 PM | message detail |
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Nice work, creativename. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| creativename | Posted 4/10/2009 12:24:52 AM | message detail |
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(how many cricket games have you Americans played?) There are cricket video games what !! --- Save_Us.RAT BREAK THE BLOCK DOWN |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/10/2009 12:25:53 AM | message detail |
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I'm an idiot for not taking my own advice. Contra can be SFFd by Zelda just like any other NES game. --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Devil May Cry |
| Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 4/10/2009 12:25:59 AM | message detail |
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Woo Female Soldier in the background. 1 of 5 Toriyama designs Ive fapped to happily. |
| Lopen | Posted 4/10/2009 4:21:00 AM | message detail |
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Congrats to Lopen on the Oracle #1! Nice job :) Damn straight....! Hmmm, Contra made this look a little less humiliating over the night at least. Surprised to see this lead only at 2000 right now. --- So I lost a bet to creativename (yeah...hardly shocking). Like usual, I should've known better! FACT: Halo 3 was 1000% responsible for Master Chief's boost. |
| consolefreak | Posted 4/10/2009 5:12:09 AM | message detail |
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The fact that people were not giving up on Duck Hunt yesterday because
of its amazing comeback against Duck Hunt back in the day got me
thinking. What is the most impressive comeback yet? Would it have been
Duck Hunt, if it had won? Defining the weight of a comeback isn't entirely straight forward. It shouldn't be defined just by the amount of votes, because vote totals have been generally increasing, and in these 4-ways a comeback of as much as 500 votes can be extremely impressive (depending on the piece of the pie the 2 contestants take). Defining it strictly by percentages is pretty asinine as well. If CATS gets the first vote against Link, but Link ends up winning, Link came back infinitely. Of course you should wait a while for the match to settle, but how long do you wait exactly? You can't really draw a line. Plus, I personally consider a comeback of say, 47-53 after 6 hours with a lead of ~1500 more impressive than a comeback of 43-57 after 30 minutes with a lead of ~400. So I defined a comeback as the #votes the contestant was down at its peak, divided by the total votes for that match. In 4-ways, you don't take the vote total for the match, but for the 2 relevant contestants. Example: Master Chief is down 2000 votes against Donkey Kong and ends up winning. The vote total for the match is 100,000. Master Chief's comeback gets a 2000/100,000 = 2% rating. I only considered comebacks where the contestant who was down actually took over at some point (i.e. not Duck Hunt), and also ended up winning the match (i.e. not Axel - Frog). Note, also, that I only considered actual comebacks, not vote swings. Hence, impressive percentage swings like Master Chief-Crono or Kefka-Knuckles are not on this list. Here are the most impressive successful comebacks, from the games contest 2K4 onwards (starting from Goldeneye, as per creativename's poll updates): 1) Sandbag vs Magus: 3.28% 2) Marcus Fenix vs Revolver Ocelot: 2.46% 3) Starcraft vs LoZ: WW: 2.44% 4) Master Chief vs Donkey Kong: 2.07% 5) Vincent Valentine vs Crono (2K7): 1.91% 6) Sonic vs Crono: 1.75% The next are mostly from the 4-way character battles, involving a lot of semi-anomalies (next is Zelda vs Mudkip with 1.53%). Now if you were to also consider comebacks were the contestant did come back and took over, but ended up losing (FFT-MGS, Axel-Frog), there are also some very impressive comebacks: 1) Axel vs Frog: 3.75% 2) Master Chief vs Frog: 2.65% 3) Tails vs The Boss: 2.04% I think it's safe to say that Chrono Trigger has an abysmal day vote. Also, if Duck hunt had come back and won, it's comeback would have a 3.30% rating, which is the biggest indeed. This is assuming the lead was 3200 at its peak, perhaps it was a tad more still? I don't really know. Applying this retro-actively on yesterday's match, even the lead of 500 was extremely comfortable; Duck Hunt coming back from this would've been comparably impressive to Vincent coming back from Crono in 2K7, 2 very polarized contestants. If Duck Hunt had come back from as few as 900 votes, it would've outdone its --if successful-- comeback against Donkey Kong. The only thing you need to make such a prediction beforehand is an estimate of how much votes the 2 contestants will end up getting in total. I think 25,000 was a fair guess yesterday, a guess that could have been made very early on. --- Those who speak do not know, those who know do not speak - Soviet adage A man, a plan, a canal, Panama |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 4/10/2009 6:16:47 AM | message detail |
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Which.. is extremely slim. At this point I'd say it's the most likely outcome. Do you realize how big of a leap it is from 70% to 80% Heck, most characters can't break 80% one-on-one. Why in the world would you expect one game to do it to three? 75% I can see, but 80% would blow my mind. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 4/10/2009 6:22:20 AM | message detail |
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Sonic 2's result is wrong, we've been over this. And I'd STILL take Mario RPG to beat it! Yesterday's chart: Time | Duck Hunt | Galaga | N. Gaiden | Mario Bros. EBV | 15.86% | 7.53% | 13.03% | 63.58% PHV | 13.00% | 6.61% | 13.38% | 67.01% FNV | 11.52% | 5.65% | 13.63% | 69.20% BSV | 9.35% | 5.42% | 12.10% | 73.13% DSV | 10.21% | 6.12% | 11.17% | 71.73% ASV | 10.17% | 6.73% | 12.38% | 70.71% SNV | 10.15% | 6.86% | 12.74% | 70.26% Duck Hunt got the board vote, dropped off pretty big by the end of the Power Hour, and just kept dropping. It was barely averaging 10% for the rest of the day. Galaga had a decent day vote and second night vote, relatively, it seems! Ninja Gaiden did the best during the night, but its during school vote was pretty bad. Mario Bros. owned the morning vote after a bad board vote. Yesterday's stats: Super Mario Bros. – 50.00% Ninja Gaiden – 15.14% Duck Hunt – 13.07% Galaga – 8.16% --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| voltch | Posted 4/10/2009 6:22:23 AM | message detail |
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FFVII vs 3 other NES fodder level games could get probably above 85% --- Pearl FC:3953 0978 7217 *Shakes Fist* |
| jonthomson | Posted 4/10/2009 6:24:00 AM | message detail |
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how is zelda not sffing metroid into oblivion? jesus, another two points lost --- Jon Thomson - 1:10 pure 1:43 100% - HKP: 179 Super Metroid's Path To Glory: R1 vs. Sonic 3, Gunstar Heroes, Super Mario Kart |
| charmander6000 | Posted 4/10/2009 6:27:09 AM | message detail |
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FFVII vs 3 other NES fodder level games could get probably above 85% Do you even know what you are saying? Using 2k4 stats the only game that fits that profile is Adventure. FFVII would need to get an average of 94.45% against each game. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ > Contra Points: 10/12 |
| ImplicitContent | Posted 4/10/2009 6:27:29 AM | message detail |
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yesss... Metroid baby. Everyone had me more or less convinced that was a terrible pick. --- all hail ec your lord and savior |
| charmander6000 | Posted 4/10/2009 6:29:21 AM | message detail |
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how is zelda not sffing metroid into oblivion? jesus, another two points lost It is, it's already killing Metroid worse than what the stats say, this is all Contra failing. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ > Contra Points: 10/12 |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 4/10/2009 6:32:44 AM | message detail |
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Contra only got 60% on a Master System RPG. I mean, who the hell even owns a Master System here. Metroid would have to be killed really badly by SFF to lose that match up. And Legend of Zelda is already almost beating it by as much as Super Mario 3 did in 2004 >_> --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
| charmander6000 | Posted 4/10/2009 7:00:43 AM | message detail |
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Rank the games by non-SFF strength based on first round results. 1. The Legend of Zelda 2. Super Mario Bros. 3. Metroid 4. Tetris 5. Mega Man 2 6. Pac-Man 7. Contra 8. Donkey Kong 9. Duck Hunt 10. Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!! 11. The Oregon Trail 12. Pong 13. Ninja Gaiden 14. Dragon Warrior III 15. Space Invaders 16. Galaga --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ > Contra Points: 10/12 |
| ffmasterjose | Posted 4/10/2009 7:04:37 AM | message detail |
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*high fives Explicit Content* --- 10/12 points - The Best. Game. Ever 2009 Contest NP: The Legend of Zelda > Metroid | http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=4 |
| ImplicitContent | Posted 4/10/2009 7:10:17 AM | message detail |
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now all I need is some Sonic > SF2 action and its time to morph into an overconfident ass --- all hail ec your lord and savior |
| expaniol | Posted 4/10/2009 7:19:14 AM | message detail |
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Europe should vote more like Sweden IMO. MTPO!! clearly in second and MM2 with 60+ %. --- The awesome FastFalcon certainly secured his place among the Board 8 gods by securing victory in the guru contest. All hail FastFalcon |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/10/2009 7:20:52 AM | message detail |
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Sonic 2 > SFII would absolutely shock me at this point. There's literally no reason for it to happen. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| The Mana Sword | Posted 4/10/2009 7:21:44 AM | message detail |
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There's literally no reason for it to happen. Sounds like a good reason for it to happen to me ! --- Kleenex...at work! |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/10/2009 7:22:38 AM | message detail |
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God damnit I just invoked Slowflake somehow didn't I --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| ffmasterjose | Posted 4/10/2009 7:29:14 AM | message detail |
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There's literally no reason for it to happen. Well duh, they're not even in the same division! Sonic 2 is in the one after that one! --- 10/12 points - The Best. Game. Ever 2009 Contest NP: The Legend of Zelda > Metroid | http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=4 |
| voltch | Posted 4/10/2009 7:32:32 AM | message detail |
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what's up with all the slowflake mentions this season? --- Pearl FC:3953 0978 7217 *Shakes Fist* |
| charmander6000 | Posted 4/10/2009 7:42:08 AM | message detail |
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what's up with all the slowflake mentions this season? Slowflake was huge back then, in 2003 he perfectly predicted Sephiroth/Raziel giving bith to the oracle contest and in 2004 he was most known for calling a match over which then causes the losing game to catch up (Starcraft/WW among others) --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ > Contra Points: 10/12 |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/10/2009 7:50:07 AM | message detail |
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And then he left in a hissy fit because he didn't like a bracket or something. --- http://gamebros.smackjeeves.com/ http://l33trappacat.smackjeeves.com/ |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/10/2009 7:51:30 AM | message detail |
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I think he left in 2005 because he didn't like the ToC. --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: LoZ > Contra - Points: 10/12 Vote: Contra |
| charmander6000 | Posted 4/10/2009 8:06:10 AM | message detail |
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People have left for worse reasons. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ > Contra Points: 10/12 |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/10/2009 8:06:34 AM | message detail |
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Lol I wonder what reasons they would be. --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: LoZ > Contra - Points: 10/12 Vote: Contra |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 4/10/2009 8:16:26 AM | message detail |
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Sonic 2 > SFII would absolutely shock me at this point. There's literally no reason for it to happen. ...I really don't know why. It's not like SFII is some bastion of strength. I mean, I have SFII > Sonic 1 tomorrow, but Sonic winning wouldn't surprise me at all. Especially with my current track record! --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/10/2009 8:18:56 AM | message detail |
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SFII beats Sonic 2 in the stats, Sonic 2 is stronger than Sonic 1,
Sonic in general has been in a freefall, and MM2's performance doesn't
give me much hope for Sonic's games. It could happen, but there's really no reason for it. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| WarThaHedgehog | Posted 4/10/2009 8:19:24 AM | message detail |
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I'd expect Sonic to get 3rd before I'd take it to get 1st. Sonic's been
going downhill for a while, the format hates it, and if "I've heard of
it" votes still matter much, those will probably go enmass to Street
Fighter due to Street Fighter getting a non-port game that didn't suck
since the Dreamcast. --- http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3230/takerface.gif |
| WarThaHedgehog | Posted 4/10/2009 8:20:13 AM | message detail |
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also, if Ninja Gaiden was helped by the X-Box, Sonic the Hedgehog is going to get buried by Sonic 2006 !!! --- http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3230/takerface.gif |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 4/10/2009 8:26:58 AM | message detail |
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SFII beats Sonic 2 in the stats People really need to stop using 2004 stats as if they mean anything! --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/10/2009 8:28:26 AM | message detail |
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All I'm saying is that Sonic has nothing going into the match. If he
wins, it'll be because SFII turns out to be a big, fat, dud. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/10/2009 8:28:30 AM | message detail |
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Sonic 2 vs Street Fighter II would be pretty interesting, but I can see an argument going either way. Of course, this is coming from somebody that thinks SFII is underrated in those stats.. but Sonic 2 is undoubtedly underrated as well. --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: LoZ > Contra - Points: 10/12 Vote: Contra |
| The Mana Sword | Posted 4/10/2009 8:29:47 AM | message detail |
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Hopefully Sonic falls flat on its ass and we can get the Secret of Mana hype train rollin' choo choo --- Kleenex...at work! |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/10/2009 8:37:17 AM | message detail |
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From: LeonhartFour | #386 I honestly can't tell whether this is sarcastic or not. :/ --- http://gamebros.smackjeeves.com/ http://l33trappacat.smackjeeves.com/ |
| ZenOfThunder | Posted 4/10/2009 8:44:38 AM | message detail |
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http://kotaku.com/5206809/meet-assassins-creed-iis-new-assassin No more Altair. This is probably gonna hurt him next year. --- (|| ' ' ||) Not changing my sig until EBA2/Ouendan 3 is announced. (4/22/08) . /|_|\ http://imgcake.com/img/40/all_eba.jpg |
| The Mana Sword | Posted 4/10/2009 8:45:35 AM | message detail |
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He looks the same. --- Kleenex...at work! |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/10/2009 8:45:56 AM | message detail |
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He wasn't that strong to begin with. --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: LoZ > Contra - Points: 10/12 Vote: Contra |
| ImplicitContent | Posted 4/10/2009 8:49:07 AM | message detail |
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Sonic 2 > SFII would absolutely shock me at this point. There's literally no reason for it to happen. lol wut? I really hope that isn't a serious post. Sonic 2 has a plethora of reasons to beat SFII, and I'd feel damn good about it happening. 2K4 stats don't mean anything. At all. Try using the 2K3 character stats for the 2K8 contest, then make it a 4-way. You're not going anywhere. Street Fighter should be all means benefit from the format, catering to the fighting game crowd which is a rather unique fanbase. Sonic 2 also lost to SMW in 2K4, there's no doubt that it was SFF'd into the ground, which then lost to CT, which then lost to FF7. That's a chain riddled with SFF. SMRPG which shouldn't have any real strength beat down SF2, and CT beat SMRPG 70-30 while beating SMW 60-40. So really, even if you do want to use stats from 2K4 they really don't point to SFII being the favorite at all over Sonic 2. Obviously this is just straight up Sonic, but thinking SFII is anywhere near a lock is just dumb as hell. --- all hail ec your lord and savior |
| ZenOfThunder | Posted 4/10/2009 8:52:12 AM | message detail |
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http://kotaku.com/5206591/play-final-fantasy-vii-on-your-ps3-now Ha, FFVII got released on the PSN. In Japan. For the PSP. Lovely! --- (|| ' ' ||) Not changing my sig until EBA2/Ouendan 3 is announced. (4/22/08) . /|_|\ http://imgcake.com/img/40/all_eba.jpg |
| therealmnm | Posted 4/10/2009 9:37:48 AM | message detail |
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http://kotaku.com/5206809/meet-assassins-creed-iis-new-assassin This wasn't a surprise. If you've played through Assassin's Creed, you probably would know that the next game would star someone else, given what the story ends up being about. --- Currently playing: GTAIV, SSBB, MP3, Apollo Justice, FFIVDS, Dracula X |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 4/10/2009 9:39:31 AM | message detail |
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I honestly can't tell whether this is sarcastic or not. :/ I'm serious. The Games Contest stats were practically worthless from the moment they were released anyway. Way too much SFF in it. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| therealmnm | Posted 4/10/2009 9:41:50 AM | message detail |
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As for Sonic 2, I don't think I take SMW/Sonic 2 entirely at face
value. Would you take Sonic 2 to struggle with Contra or for Mortal
Kombat to beat it outright? I'd go for Sonic sucking in this format
more than I'd rely on the 2004 stats. It's not like SFII is that far
ahead of it anyways. Sonic 1 has a decent chance of edging out SFII, at
least sans SMW. It's all over for it the next round though! --- Currently playing: GTAIV, SSBB, MP3, Apollo Justice, FFIVDS, Dracula X |
| draarrowgant | Posted 4/10/2009 9:44:04 AM | message detail |
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Oh boy- I am sure it has been said before... but boy was I wrong about Dee Dubya. OK- Turtle- you can come out of your shell and whack me with your Bo Donatello-style... BTW- suprised Metriod doing so well with Contra in there. Wonder how it would have done with the Zero suit on Ms. Aran... --- ************************************** psn aarrowgant |
| ZenOfThunder | Posted 4/10/2009 9:48:25 AM | message detail |
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http://kotaku.com/5206664/new-bayonetta-trailer-is-completely-insane The gameplay looks great, but the game, as a whole, looks incredibly dumb. Bayonetta isn't sexy in the least, so why are they trying to make her some kinda sex icon? --- (|| ' ' ||) Not changing my sig until EBA2/Ouendan 3 is announced. (4/22/08) . /|_|\ http://imgcake.com/img/40/all_eba.jpg |
