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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 669

PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/9/2009 1:49:56 PM | message detail
Metroid broke 21% on SMB3 back in the day. I can see Zelda getting anywhere from 75-85% on it tomorrow (either a bit less than Mario 3 or equaling its destructive performance in the series contest). Contra should do better (got 30% on FF in 2004), and DWIII should be another <10% entrant.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/9/2009 1:51:08 PM | message detail
just a heads up not to underestimate dw3... if we're putting it at Phantasy star level, phantasy star was about equal to duck hunt/dk last contest.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/9/2009 1:54:15 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #351
and DWIII should be another <10% entrant.


Oh come on, it's not that weak and Zelda isn't that strong.

Of course it will at least get 10%
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/9/2009 1:57:55 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3196

I dunno...
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/9/2009 1:58:42 PM | message detail
It wasn't too far from Contra, at least.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/9/2009 1:59:06 PM | message detail
thats also the first when the 3rd was by far the best
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RPGuy96 | Posted 4/9/2009 1:59:34 PM | message detail
Final Fantasy was in that poll (which DW really doesn't want to meet), and DWIII > DW, and despite those two things DW wasn't far off from Contra.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/9/2009 2:02:53 PM | message detail
I have little faith in obscure RPGs (which DW is on this site, even if its fans won't admit it). We've seen non-FF characters and games bomb left and right for years and years. I don't see how DW is any different.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/9/2009 2:03:26 PM | message detail
i expect DW to win asian vote
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/9/2009 2:07:30 PM | message detail
If DQIII was in today's poll instead I might've picked it to advance.

Contra and Metroid is just too much, though.

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charmander6000 | Posted 4/9/2009 2:11:46 PM | message detail
True, but it should still be able to break 10%, unless Zelda is going for 60%+
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/9/2009 2:13:30 PM | message detail
I wouldnt take DW3 over any of the games advancing to the next round in this division.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/9/2009 2:14:31 PM | message detail
You wouldn't take it to beat Ninja Gaiden? I'm sure it could get more than what it's getting now.
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charmander6000 | Posted 4/9/2009 2:15:17 PM | message detail
I wouldnt take DW3 over any of the games advancing to the next round in this division.

I may take it over Ninja Gaiden.
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ZFS | Posted 4/9/2009 2:16:37 PM | message detail
Yeah, I don't expect DWIII to be in competition for second tomorrow, unless Zelda just really wrecks the poll, but it should still be able to manage 10%+.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/9/2009 2:17:43 PM | message detail
I highly doubt it. You say DW3 = Phantasy Star, but I disagree. Phantasy Star had the distinction of being the only RPG series on an RPG lacking system whereas DW3 had to compete with Final Fantasy. Ninja Gaiden is doing great here all things considered.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/9/2009 2:18:57 PM | message detail
Phantasy Star was also on a system like nobody had. Nights was the best saturn game, but it still sucked ass in the poll since nobody here has a saturn
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/9/2009 2:19:43 PM | message detail
... 15% on SMB is... great?

DW coming close to Contra is good enough for me to take it over 15% on Mario Bros.
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frisqo | Posted 4/9/2009 2:20:24 PM | message detail
stupid dog, i'm sure things would've been a lot different if the ducks were used for duck hunts' picture

anyway, this is probably the longest i've had a perfect in any of these 4-way contests, woooh!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/9/2009 2:26:52 PM | message detail
There really is no reason to take Phantasy Star over DWIII. DWII beats it on what few franchise votes it has alone, I think.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/9/2009 2:29:09 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #370
There really is no reason to take Phantasy Star over DWIII. DWII beats it on what few franchise votes it has alone, I think.


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2792

franchise votes is a total non factor
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draarrowgant | Posted 4/9/2009 2:31:04 PM | message detail
Turtle... I think you are missing the point...

BlAcK TuRtLe
Posted 4/9/2009 2:17:43 PM
message detail I highly doubt it. You say DW3 = Phantasy Star, but I disagree. Phantasy Star had the distinction of being the only RPG series on an RPG lacking system whereas DW3 had to compete with Final Fantasy. Ninja Gaiden is doing great here all things considered.



Like I said before- DW is the only only NON nintendo RPG game here and there are quite a few nintendonts out there that would love to vote against link. I think Contra will eat up some of that, but many RPG fans who later became FF fans grew up on the early final fantasies and DW... personally DW III was the first non-computer RPG I played. So even though I loved the original Zelda, I like voting for the underdog when my fav is a clear winner... I think others might share this sentimism...

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draarrowgant | Posted 4/9/2009 2:35:28 PM | message detail
oh- nobody ever answered me:

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Posted 4/9/2009 1:48:25 PM
message detail Not sure if anyone has done this yet- but can you guess each game in the banner? I don't want to spin my wheels if someone has the answer.... Off the top I can guess 5 easy....
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draarrowgant
Posted 4/9/2009 1:49:21 PM
message detail OK- up to 8....
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up to 9 now... cant break the last bunch... does anybody know all of them? I would appreciate it.
draarrowgant | Posted 4/9/2009 2:38:01 PM | message detail

MyWorldIsCrono
Posted 4/9/2009 2:29:09 PM
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From: KamikazePotato | #370
There really is no reason to take Phantasy Star over DWIII. DWII beats it on what few franchise votes it has alone, I think.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2792

franchise votes is a total non factor


EXACTLY my point... none of these games are being compared here... and we know how the RPG people roll on GameFAQs...


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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/9/2009 2:48:17 PM | message detail
The same RPG people that let Kefka lose to Duke Nukem?

If it doesn't have the words "Final" or "Fantasy" in it, it isn't worth anything.

Hell, even with Final Fantasy you get plenty of turbofodder (cast of FF6, cast of FF4, Kuja losing to Master Hand).

Oh wait, contest noobie, right. Disregard him and his poorly formatted quotes.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/9/2009 2:50:49 PM | message detail
If DWIII even comes close to getting what Ninja Gaiden is getting today tomorrow, it WOULD beat Ninja Gaiden. I don't see how that's a stretch stll.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/9/2009 2:52:30 PM | message detail
This isn't even about DW's strength, it's about 'what the hell is Phantasy Star'.

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draarrowgant | Posted 4/9/2009 2:53:10 PM | message detail
So mean Turtle... but I guess that is expected of you. I have been playing these contest for a couple years and usually stay silent. The wealth of knowledge you and the other regulars has here is astounding and I didnt want to spoil the good rhetoric.

Anywho- look at me getting caught up in your poke...

I still think DW is going to lose... I just like to debate that it has chance for underdog for 2nd. And debating is fun even if you are on the losing side.


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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/9/2009 2:57:43 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #377
This isn't even about DW's strength, it's about 'what the hell is Phantasy Star'.


Obviously Phantasy star is as well known as DW!

Not to mention Phantasy Star Online was bigger in the states then any DW/DQ game ever was.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/9/2009 2:59:03 PM | message detail

From: BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted: 4/9/2009 5:48:17 PM | #375
Oh wait, contest noobie, right. Disregard him and his poorly formatted quotes.


There's no reason to be mean about it, dude.q
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/9/2009 3:00:12 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1928
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2247

http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/gamecube/home/516243.html
http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/home/583527.html

whatever you say

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charmander6000 | Posted 4/9/2009 3:01:18 PM | message detail
I still think DW is going to lose... I just like to debate that it has chance for underdog for 2nd. And debating is fun even if you are on the losing side.

If DWIII wasn't placed in the most stacked match of this division you could argue, but the best it could do is beat a SFFd Metroid and that's if Zelda goes crazy.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/9/2009 3:01:20 PM | message detail
how did the last two links with phantasy star rating higher help your case at all
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 4/9/2009 3:01:44 PM | message detail

I still think DW is going to lose... I just like to debate that it has chance for underdog for 2nd. And debating is fun even if you are on the losing side.


This guy's got spunk!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/9/2009 3:02:09 PM | message detail
Uh

Did you check the AMOUNT of reviews or were you not paying attention

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Lucid Faia | Posted 4/9/2009 3:03:00 PM | message detail
If it doesn't have the words "Final" or "Fantasy" in it, it isn't worth anything.

What about "Chrono" and "Trigger?"

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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/9/2009 3:04:21 PM | message detail
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/9/2009 3:05:22 PM | message detail
So mean Turtle... but I guess that is expected of you. I have been playing these contest for a couple years and usually stay silent. The wealth of knowledge you and the other regulars has here is astounding and I didnt want to spoil the good rhetoric.

Anywho- look at me getting caught up in your poke...

I still think DW is going to lose... I just like to debate that it has chance for underdog for 2nd. And debating is fun even if you are on the losing side.


I like this new guy.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/9/2009 3:17:52 PM | message detail

From: draarrowgant | Posted: 4/9/2009 5:53:10 PM | #378
So mean Turtle... but I guess that is expected of you. I have been playing these contest for a couple years and usually stay silent. The wealth of knowledge you and the other regulars has here is astounding and I didnt want to spoil the good rhetoric.

Anywho- look at me getting caught up in your poke...

I still think DW is going to lose... I just like to debate that it has chance for underdog for 2nd. And debating is fun even if you are on the losing side.


I hope this guy sticks around permanently.
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swirIdude | Posted 4/9/2009 3:26:14 PM | message detail

From: draarrowgant | Posted: 4/9/2009 5:53:10 PM | #378
So mean Turtle... but I guess that is expected of you. I have been playing these contest for a couple years and usually stay silent. The wealth of knowledge you and the other regulars has here is astounding and I didnt want to spoil the good rhetoric.

Anywho- look at me getting caught up in your poke...

I still think DW is going to lose... I just like to debate that it has chance for underdog for 2nd. And debating is fun even if you are on the losing side.


Nominate draarrowgant for Stats Topic User of the Year!
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draarrowgant | Posted 4/9/2009 3:30:01 PM | message detail
blushes Thanks guys for making a "noob" not feel so bad. I'll be sure to stick around and spar with y'all...
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 4/9/2009 3:30:59 PM | message detail
draarrowgant should just replace Black Turtle.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/9/2009 3:31:54 PM | message detail
B - Bioshock
E - EarthBound
S - Sonic 2
T - Portal, I think

G - God of War
A - Grand Theft Auto 4
M - ?
E - ?

E - ?
V - Final Fantasy 7
E - Deus Ex
R - Super Mario RPG


What are the three I'm missing?
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 4/9/2009 3:32:19 PM | message detail
While we're praising the kid,

The letters on the logo are:

B - Bioshock
E - Earthbound
S - Sonic 2
T - Team Fortress 2

G - Goldeneye
A - GTA 4
M - Metroid
E - Fire Emblem

E - Resident Evil
V - FF7
E - Deus Ex
R - Super Mario RPG

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/9/2009 3:33:07 PM | message detail

From: draarrowgant | Posted: 4/9/2009 6:30:01 PM | #391
blushes Thanks guys for making a "noob" not feel so bad. I'll be sure to stick around and spar with y'all...


You're not a noob at all. We get accused of being elitist all the time, but we always welcome smart and reasonable people to participate. And "debating is fun even if you're on the losing side" might be the most reasonable thing I've ever heard in the stats topic.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/9/2009 3:34:01 PM | message detail
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HaRRicH | Posted 4/9/2009 3:34:30 PM | message detail
Oh, great, now we have to expand our super-elite clique..... =P


If Metroid happens to advance tomorrow, is there any chance NG could steal third place over it in SMB/LoZ/Metroid/NG? Metroid WILL be killed there if LoZ doesn't finish it off first, and NG will stand out.

I don't think I can pick NG > Metroid in even those circumstances, but it's fun to think about!
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/9/2009 3:34:44 PM | message detail

From: nintendogirl1 | Posted: 4/9/2009 6:32:19 PM | #394
While we're praising the kid,

The letters on the logo are:

B - Bioshock
E - Earthbound
S - Sonic 2
T - Team Fortress 2

G - Goldeneye
A - GTA 4
M - Metroid
E - Fire Emblem

E - Resident Evil
V - FF7
E - Deus Ex
R - Super Mario RPG

I promise they're right, I made it.


You made that?!

I think I love you. Congrats on the best banner of the bunch.
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 4/9/2009 3:35:02 PM | message detail
Yeah Ulti, as dumb as that is, I think the extra 21st chromosome thing is a bit extreme.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/9/2009 3:35:57 PM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | Posted: 4/9/2009 6:34:30 PM | #397
Oh, great, now we have to expand our super-elite clique..... =P


If Metroid happens to advance tomorrow, is there any chance NG could steal third place over it in SMB/LoZ/Metroid/NG? Metroid WILL be killed there if LoZ doesn't finish it off first, and NG will stand out.

I don't think I can pick NG > Metroid in even those circumstances, but it's fun to think about!


I think third place for Ninja Gaiden in that scenario is as automatic as the Law of Motion.
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