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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 669

ZenOfThunder | Posted 4/9/2009 10:19:31 AM | message detail
Should I replace Kung Lao with Liu Kang or something?

Maybe Jax.

>_>
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/9/2009 10:19:33 AM | message detail
That might be the best pic you're ever made, which says a lot.
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The Mana Sword | Posted 4/9/2009 10:20:49 AM | message detail
If we're being fair, some of those pics last year really did kinda cross the line. There's a difference between being creative and being gimmicky.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/9/2009 10:20:55 AM | message detail
Cloud vs. Snake vs. Sephiroth vs. Kirby will always be my favorite simply because I can pretend to myself that it subconsciously made people vote Nintendo and give Snake the win.

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HaRRicH | Posted 4/9/2009 10:20:58 AM | message detail
I just used the character select screen. If you guys give me four MK characters, I'll redo it.

Sub-Zero, Scorpion, Reptile, and Smoke.
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ffmasterjose | Posted 4/9/2009 10:21:45 AM | message detail
Don't put Jax. MKII Jax is just John Parrish flexing his muscles >_>
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 4/9/2009 10:22:01 AM | message detail
I think I'll do Subby, Scrops, Reptile and put Kitana in for some variety.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/9/2009 10:22:04 AM | message detail
I remember the line was drawn with stuff like that pencil pic that you couldnt even see who the characters were
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/9/2009 10:22:23 AM | message detail
I've always liked that pencil pic and always will!

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ZenOfThunder | Posted 4/9/2009 10:22:23 AM | message detail
Or maybe Raiden. People know Raiden, right?
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The Mana Sword | Posted 4/9/2009 10:23:08 AM | message detail
Put Metal Gear Raiden in there just to mess with people. <_<
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 4/9/2009 10:23:41 AM | message detail
>_>
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/9/2009 10:23:52 AM | message detail
it would be hillarious to see bacon choose a pic thats screwed up like that
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/9/2009 10:24:11 AM | message detail
Don't say those kinds of things to Zen. He's the kind of guy who would do it, submit it, and then laugh as Bacon accepts it without realizing it.

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ffmasterjose | Posted 4/9/2009 10:24:13 AM | message detail
Smoke would be cool for all ninjas, but Human Smoke has no icon in MKII, so that wouldn't work out.

Subby, Scorpion, Reptile and....hmmm...

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/9/2009 10:24:40 AM | message detail

From: The Mana Sword | Posted: 4/9/2009 1:20:49 PM | #203
If we're being fair, some of those pics last year really did kinda cross the line. There's a difference between being creative and being gimmicky.


Example?
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The Mana Sword | Posted 4/9/2009 10:25:11 AM | message detail
Don't say those kinds of things to Zen. He's the kind of guy who would do it, submit it, and then laugh as Bacon accepts it without realizing it.

You say this as if I don't want it to happen!
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The Mana Sword | Posted 4/9/2009 10:27:06 AM | message detail
Examples?

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-49-4.jpg
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-53-3.jpg
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-58-1.jpg
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-57-2.jpg - damn you aga
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-58-6.jpg
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-63-3.jpg
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HaRRicH | Posted 4/9/2009 10:27:35 AM | message detail
Raiden for recognition, Jade or Kitana for TJF (!!).

Or, hey, the guy that goes "Toasty!" in the bottom-right every now and then!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/9/2009 10:28:17 AM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-58-6.jpg

ugh
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/9/2009 10:28:53 AM | message detail
What's going on at the bottom of that water pic, anyway?
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HaRRicH | Posted 4/9/2009 10:29:34 AM | message detail
Those are their shoes.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/9/2009 10:29:54 AM | message detail
...yeah, I'm not seeing a problem outside the water pic.
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The Mana Sword | Posted 4/9/2009 10:30:31 AM | message detail
Oh, I forgot the most horrific use of filters ever.

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-51-2.jpg
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/9/2009 10:30:37 AM | message detail
you dont see a problem with agas pic?
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/9/2009 10:31:28 AM | message detail
No, that was very well-done.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 4/9/2009 10:32:06 AM | message detail
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ffmasterjose | Posted 4/9/2009 10:32:11 AM | message detail
Reptile in the upper left corner, because of how his head is turned. Sub-Zero and Scorpion anywhere else, I think they should go on opposing sides of the pic to reference their rivalry, and Mileena to complete the ninja theme and get some jug factor thrown in. Jade would be cool too, but alas, she also has no character icon for that. Raiden would be the best replacement for Mileena I think, he's pretty recognizable in the MK universe, 'cause of that cool hat >_>
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/9/2009 10:32:23 AM | message detail
well outside of the fact its a huge mario advantage because you have marios trademark big nose and nobody else has a distuingishing feature there...
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 4/9/2009 10:32:45 AM | message detail
http://img.imgcake.com/Zen/mkiijoke.png

Reptile is all "hmmmm something is wrong here"
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/9/2009 10:32:59 AM | message detail
From what I gleaned from the rest of B8's reactions,

'Good' Creative:
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-62-2.jpg
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-61-6.jpg
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-56-5.jpg
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-54-4.jpg
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-55-2.jpg
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-53-1.jpg
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-53-4.jpg
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-50-4.jpg

'Bad' Creative:
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-62-3.jpg
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-58-6.jpg
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-59-1.jpg
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-57-2.jpg
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-58-2.jpg
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-58-1.jpg
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-56-2.jpg
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-55-3.jpg
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-53-5.jpg
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-52-3.jpg
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-53-3.jpg
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-52-1.jpg
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-49-4.jpg
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-50-2.jpg
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-51-2.jpg
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-51-3.jpg
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-51-4.jpg

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/9/2009 10:33:04 AM | message detail

From: ZenOfThunder | #230
http://img.imgcake.com/Zen/mkiijoke.png

Reptile is all "hmmmm something is wrong here"


YES
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HaRRicH | Posted 4/9/2009 10:34:03 AM | message detail
Aga's looks fair enough technically speaking, but that face in the middle makes for a pretty bad face.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/9/2009 10:34:27 AM | message detail
So basically people will whine about anything. I don't have a problem with most of the 'Bad' pics and don't see why anyone else should.

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ZenOfThunder | Posted 4/9/2009 10:34:50 AM | message detail
I still think my Beatles one is easy to see...
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/9/2009 10:35:19 AM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-62-2.jpg

Thay is still the best match pic ever made.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/9/2009 10:35:32 AM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #234
So basically people will whine about anything. I don't have a problem with most of the 'Bad' pics and don't see why anyone else should.


Because the point of match pics are to show off the characters, not someones artistic ability. Most of the "Bad" artistic pics put the art part of it infront of the characters, by trying to act like their work was more important then the match.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/9/2009 10:37:02 AM | message detail
Who cares.

Seriously. Just...who cares. If a pic has the characters a little obscured for the sake of being interesting, who cares? It's not a big deal at all and every here was making it to be one.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/9/2009 10:38:06 AM | message detail
The water pic and that one style GameFAQs ASCII is obsessed with are pretty much the only match pics I don't like.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/9/2009 10:38:21 AM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #238
Who cares.

Seriously. Just...who cares. If a pic has the characters a little obscured for the sake of being interesting, who cares? It's not a big deal at all and every here was making it to be one.


Obviously many of the non picture makers did.
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The Mana Sword | Posted 4/9/2009 10:38:36 AM | message detail
Yeah, the main problem I have with a lot of the 'creative' ones is that the characters are hard to see or obscured by a lot of clutter.

Stuff like your Brawl one is fine, it's a smart idea, each character is represented well and it isn't all over the place.

But you can go ahead and keep playing the 'people just like complaining' angle if you want.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/9/2009 10:38:55 AM | message detail

From: MyWorldIsCrono | Posted: 4/9/2009 1:35:32 PM | #237
Because the point of match pics are to show off the characters, not someones artistic ability. Most of the "Bad" artistic pics put the art part of it infront of the characters, by trying to act like their work was more important then the match.


You know, this is actually a fair point. The match is more important than how good someone's skill with CS3 is.
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HaRRicH | Posted 4/9/2009 10:39:29 AM | message detail
I'm cool with people taking some freedoms with the pics. There are some I don't like and don't think are good, yes, but for the most part they're still interesting to see and effectively bring in voters, so...I mean, it's hard to complain.
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MnMZero | Posted 4/9/2009 10:42:37 AM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-57-2.jpg

This picture still scares the hell out of me. My first thought is "WTF is that staring at me?" Not, "Wow, that's an awesome match pic!".
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/9/2009 10:42:59 AM | message detail
As is often said; more is not always better, simple is sometimes the best way to go.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/9/2009 10:43:17 AM | message detail
But you can go ahead and keep playing the 'people just like complaining' angle if you want.

Look, I don't have to defend myself from anything. I don't think I made a single pic that wasn't well-received (mostly because I didn't make many pics later on and carefully chose what themes to go with).

The complaints still confuse me. Some pics should have never seen the light of day, yeah, but the amount of vehemence during that time was crazy. I remember pretty much everyone calling for the Pics Topic's head.

And this is Board 8, we totally complain about anything possible. >_>

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/9/2009 10:45:34 AM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #246
But you can go ahead and keep playing the 'people just like complaining' angle if you want.

Look, I don't have to defend myself from anything. I don't think I made a single pic that wasn't well-received (mostly because I didn't make many pics later on and carefully chose what themes to go with).

The complaints still confuse me. Some pics should have never seen the light of day, yeah, but the amount of vehemence during that time was crazy. I remember pretty much everyone calling for the Pics Topic's head.

And this is Board 8, we totally complain about anything possible. >_>


I think its just the point of view that artists and non artists come from. Artists will appreciate the attempt to make art better then someone who just wants something more practical.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 4/9/2009 10:46:10 AM | message detail
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/558/mkii2bevel.png

Jax and Johnny Care are hiding. Can you find them?
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HaRRicH | Posted 4/9/2009 10:46:36 AM | message detail
http://img.imgcake.com/Zen/mkiijoke.png

Maybe if you swap Reptile and Raiden around along with Sub-Zero and Scorpion, this could look better. It feels weird having two characters looking out of the pic, though I think the pairings are correct.
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The Mana Sword | Posted 4/9/2009 10:47:21 AM | message detail
The "pic clique" was extremely uppity about their pictures last year. Whenever someone in the stats topic offered criticism, whether it be good or bad, about any of the pictures that were being used in the match, you guys would get extremely defensive about it and I think that turned a lot of people off.

I made just as many pics as anyone last year and not all of them were fantastic, the vast majority were very plain. But that's fine, I don't have a problem with people telling me that, and I'm certainly not going to try and defend every picture I made if people didn't like it.
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