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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 667

Yesmar | Posted 4/8/2009 12:16:03 PM | message detail
Super Mario Kart is pretty dated by today's standards. I doubt it's held up that well. I would never take it to beat Sonic 3 1 vs. 1 let alone when it's being leeched.
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swirIdude | Posted 4/8/2009 12:17:09 PM | message detail
I took SMK > Sonic and never looked back.

Probably will come back to bite me, but whatever.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/8/2009 12:17:51 PM | message detail
gunstar heroes i think
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HaRRicH | Posted 4/8/2009 12:20:15 PM | message detail
Yep, Gunstar...so pretty much, it's a three-way.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 4/8/2009 12:20:27 PM | message detail
Gunstar Heroes? Why in the world is THAT back in?! That's one of the two games that didn't even break 10% back in 2004.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/8/2009 12:21:45 PM | message detail
I'd take Super Mario Kart over any Sonic game. Heck, after today, I might take it over any Mega Man game (sans maybe X), and we all saw what happened in 2006. I'm starting to think that both Sonic and Mega Man overperformed due to their status as "iconic series" in the Series Contest. Sonic especially - seeing what's become of the characters, I'm now surprised Smash didn't put a 60/40 beatdown on it, especially when considering its picture advantage.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/8/2009 12:23:25 PM | message detail

From: Fayt_Esteed | #305
Gunstar Heroes? Why in the world is THAT back in?! That's one of the two games that didn't even break 10% back in 2004.


Why not? Its on almost every top 100 game list out there and generally regarded as one of the best genesis games there are.
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MnMZero | Posted 4/8/2009 12:23:54 PM | message detail
And I understand what people say about Sonic games being more iconic than Mega Man games, but I feel the similarities are there.

It's not about Sonic games being more iconic. They were simply more popular. Does Mega Man even have a 1992/11/24 type of hype for any of his games? Each Sonic release was absolutely huge back in the Genesis days. With Mega Man, it was more like "sweet, another Mega Man game". I don't think there really is any Mega Man game that is more popular than the Sonic Genesis games...

Now about your saying that Sonic games might fold to strong Nintendo competition again, I don't think there are too many places that is going to happen. I'm still not over how Mario Kart stunk it up in the series contest. If the Mega Man series can beat the Mario Kart series handily, I don't see why arguably the most popular Sonic game can't beat a lesser Mario Kart game. So for that Super Metroid/Sonic 3/SMK matchup, I have SM > Sonic 3, although if I would have given my bracket serious thought, I should have taken Sonic 3 > Super Metroid. I never thought about the possibility of SMK affecting SM more, which probably will happen. Ah well. It's just the first round.
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HaRRicH | Posted 4/8/2009 12:25:21 PM | message detail
SSB was still a two-trick pony against a classic series, even if SSBB was just announced and 3D-Sonic wasn't well-received. Sonic also went on to beat Crono later that year. It's hard to ask SSB to do more in that match-up. than the ~58% it already had.
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MnMZero | Posted 4/8/2009 12:26:22 PM | message detail
If Sonic 3 gets Knuckles in that match pic, then all hope is lost for SM and SMK.

Just sayin'.
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HaRRicH | Posted 4/8/2009 12:27:34 PM | message detail
I agree, Knuckles NEEDS to be in the Sonic 3 pic.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/8/2009 12:27:59 PM | message detail
http://media.strategywiki.org/images/2/2b/Sonic_3_genesis_boxart.jpg

prolly gonna be something like that since as far as i know, theres no official sonic 3/knuckles box art
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The Mana Sword | Posted 4/8/2009 12:28:27 PM | message detail
MnM is a Smurf alt confirmed.
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MnMZero | Posted 4/8/2009 12:30:35 PM | message detail
Just because I don't go throw it in everyone's faces doesn't mean I'm not the original Knuckles/Zero mark around here. BT and Smurf are just impostors.
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charmander6000 | Posted 4/8/2009 12:30:44 PM | message detail
Gunstar Heroes may be loved by gaming editors, but when it comes to regular gamers the game doesn't need to be brought back.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/8/2009 12:31:34 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #315
Gunstar Heroes may be loved by gaming editors, but when it comes to regular gamers the game doesn't need to be brought back.


It made the Gamefaqs top 100, and theres 128 games here...

It got the noms, people like it enough obviously. So why not?
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charmander6000 | Posted 4/8/2009 12:33:53 PM | message detail
It made the Gamefaqs top 100, and theres 128 games here...

It got the noms, people like it enough obviously. So why not?


Gunstar Heroes is the Earthbound of the Genesis. It's a cult game where a small, but vocal crew supports it so it does well on lists (remember it was a drop down list), but in this type of competition it does terrible.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/8/2009 12:34:29 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #317
It made the Gamefaqs top 100, and theres 128 games here...

It got the noms, people like it enough obviously. So why not?


Gunstar Heroes is the Earthbound of the Genesis. It's a cult game where a small, but vocal crew supports it so it does well on lists (remember it was a drop down list), but in this type of competition it does terrible.


Doesn't mean it doesn't deserve to make it. Its a great game with a cult following. Its better to have it then just another generic FF or Mario game.
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MnMZero | Posted 4/8/2009 12:40:58 PM | message detail
As for my opinion on Mario Kart, I guess with the popularity of SSB on this site, that Mario Kart would also be a powerhouse series on here, especially given its sales numbers. But for some reason, it just doesn't show up as well. There's only one contest match to gauge off of (which wasn't pretty in the slightest vs. my expectations), but even in all the GotY/ anticipation/favorite polls, it just doesn't dominate like one would think a series of its caliber would.

It's best showing before that in a poll of any type was, what, barely edging out God of War in a three-way while RE4 beat them both down?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?search=mario+kart
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/8/2009 12:42:21 PM | message detail
Not sure if there's anything better to replace Gunstar Heroes with anyway. We've got most of the big games of that time period in already and nothing strong to replace it with, so why not?

If you have a good suggestion that should have replaced GH, I'm all ears.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/8/2009 12:43:24 PM | message detail
So I'm replaying Devil May Cry, and I completely agree with this piece of crap series not getting any games in. It should be renamed Devil May Cry at ****ty Camera Angles. Having an uncontrollable camera wildly fluctuate all over the place just so a boss can hit you with whatever attack he wants is the ****tiest type of game design there is.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/8/2009 12:43:32 PM | message detail
Plus anyway, Genesis needs a little bit of love.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/8/2009 12:43:37 PM | message detail
Eh, I am of the opinion that God of War is crap in these polls.

With that said, the reason why Mario Kart can't touch SSB is because it's probably another series you vote for if you don't care about the other choices. I don't know too many hardcore Mario Kart fans or anything.
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swirIdude | Posted 4/8/2009 12:43:59 PM | message detail
Just because I don't go throw it in everyone's faces doesn't mean I'm not the original Knuckles/Zero mark around here.

Excuse you, but I've been the original Knuckles mark in this territory since 2003.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/8/2009 12:44:01 PM | message detail
Sonic games will probably be weak, but I think SMK will be even weaker. Mario spinoffs don't seem that strong besides maybe SMRPG.
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The Mana Sword | Posted 4/8/2009 12:46:17 PM | message detail
The original Devil May Cry is garbage.

3 is good.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/8/2009 12:47:37 PM | message detail
Meh I liked the first best. But thats probably because the other games were just more of the same but the original game was new and original!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/8/2009 12:52:27 PM | message detail
Haha, no. DMC3 is the best of the series by leaps and bounds and more leaps.

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TheOceIot | Posted 4/8/2009 12:52:36 PM | message detail
Ninja Gaiden>>>>>>>>DMC
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/8/2009 12:53:45 PM | message detail
DMC3 was too hard!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/8/2009 12:54:09 PM | message detail

From: TheOceIot | #329
Ninja Gaiden>>>>>>>>DMC


Oh and this for sure. Ninja Gaiden 1 and 2 are the best action games of their type for the last 2 gens.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/8/2009 12:54:34 PM | message detail
Then play on Easy mode, wimp.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/8/2009 12:55:02 PM | message detail
DMC3>>>Ninja Gaiden 1>>>the rest

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TheOceIot | Posted 4/8/2009 12:56:22 PM | message detail
Ninja Gaiden Black is the best action game of all time.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 4/8/2009 12:57:56 PM | message detail
As for FE, I wouldn't be surprised if it got last place. Sure, DIsgaea is weak, but seeing as FE's in a match with the very game that made the series popular in the first place...
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/8/2009 12:58:25 PM | message detail
disgaea representing
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/8/2009 12:58:26 PM | message detail
It would be if DMC3 didn't exist.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/8/2009 12:59:48 PM | message detail
Fine, I'll play DMC before casting the hammer on the entire series.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/8/2009 1:00:19 PM | message detail
But I'm really annoyed right now. I'll be doing fine against Phantom, then the camera screws me up and I get hit by fireballs until I die.
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Lucid Faia | Posted 4/8/2009 1:02:46 PM | message detail
Oh and this for sure. Ninja Gaiden 1 and 2 are the best action games of their type for the last 2 gens.

God of War 2

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/8/2009 1:02:52 PM | message detail
Phantom is the giant spider's name, right?
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TheOceIot | Posted 4/8/2009 1:04:52 PM | message detail
Ninja Gaiden is far more rewarding than some button masher with QTE boss battles.
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ffmasterjose | Posted 4/8/2009 1:05:13 PM | message detail
Yay full points today
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neonreaper | Posted 4/8/2009 1:05:22 PM | message detail
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neonreaper | Posted 4/8/2009 1:06:51 PM | message detail
eh don't need to mess up the topic nvm
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/8/2009 1:08:00 PM | message detail
oh neon you didnt just go there girlfriend
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Calintares | Posted 4/8/2009 1:09:51 PM | message detail
Punch Out! would have lost even if no one from Europe had voted.

Either be mad at the entire rest of the world, or let it rest.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 4/8/2009 1:11:05 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3197

Heh, SMK > MMX there.
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SonicRaptor | Posted 4/8/2009 1:11:08 PM | message detail
As much as I love Punch-Out, the only way it ever had a chance of winning is if DK's choke history repeated itself.

It didn't, and Punch-Out lost: end of story.
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