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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 664

Yesmar | Posted 4/6/2009 7:45:41 PM | message detail
I don't know about the others, but Duck Hunt being much much more popular in North America than elsewhere would explain that one. We'll get to see it in action again soon enough.

In all fairness, I've never liked lumping that match in with the others I find suspicious. Donkey Kong the character has dropped off like that in matches as well, but it just fits the pattern of the others too well.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 4/6/2009 7:46:03 PM | message detail
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/6/2009 7:55:32 PM | message detail
What part of "I have no one in this topic ignored" is not written in English? Did I become fluent in Greek overnight or something?
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trannyscience | Posted 4/6/2009 7:55:53 PM | message detail
haha, I love people who bandwagon onto stats topic consensus at the last second. happens every year. and then when it's wrong, they blame us. good stuff.

DK's gonna get murdered. let's go single digits.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/6/2009 8:01:50 PM | message detail

From: trannyscience | #054
haha, I love people who bandwagon onto stats topic consensus at the last second.


At least this one made sense!
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charmander6000 | Posted 4/6/2009 8:10:37 PM | message detail
Any other contests besides...

Oracle
Predict the Percent
Spread Betting
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/6/2009 8:10:52 PM | message detail
I can proudly say I stuck to my guns on picking DK. Little Mac did poorly enough in the character battle that I can confidently not pick anything Punchout related to win anything.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/6/2009 8:11:02 PM | message detail
Perfect bracket?
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charmander6000 | Posted 4/6/2009 8:12:56 PM | message detail
Match I: Donkey Kong vs. Mike Tyson’s Punch-Out!! vs. Space Invaders vs. Tetris

Information

Name: Donkey Kong
Year: 1981
System: Arcade
2004 Performance: 50.07% against Duck Hunt, 12.96% against The Legend of Zelda

Name: Mike Tyson’s Punch-Out!!
Year: 1986
System: NES
2004 Performance: Did not enter

Name: Space Invaders
Year: 1979
System: Arcade
2004 Performance: Did not enter

Name: Tetris
Year: 1986
System: Gameboy, NES
2004 Performance: 78.25% against Galaga, 73.47% against Pong, 25.43% against The Legend of Zelda

Analysis:

Welcome to the Best Game Ever 2, we’ve been waiting for this contest since 2004 and here it is. Sure it’s not one vs. one and we still have generations, but we’ve been waiting for this for five years and we shouldn’t let little things like that get in the way of one of the most unpredictable contest we’ve ever had. For our first division we return to a much simpler time, a time where innovation was easy to produce and a time where arcades were king until the NES was released.

Tetris should have no problem winning this match. In 2004 it was able to use its name value to crush opponents such as Galaga and Pong, though like Pac-Man and Pong if another game with a higher name value comes along Tetris itself will be crushed as evidence from its match against LoZ. Since this is four-ways name value will mean a lot less, also franchise voting which was so prevalent in the 8-bit division in 2004 will also be a lot weaker with more options open up to the voter. In Tetris defence despite more opponents it still has the strongest name value and since 2004 L-Block was able to win a contest and do well in the last contest so who knows maybe Tetris will have another L-Block-like run. We won’t know Tetris’ capabilities until next round though a nice showing here will probably produce some discussion.

On the other end of the spectrum Space Invaders will most likely come in last. Space Invaders is another game that will rely on name recognition and since Tetris is already in this match SI will probably go down the same route as Galaga did in 2004. In contrast both DK and PO have their own, though small group of fans that will vote for them in the face of competition. Had the contest combined generations Space Invaders may have shown its true strength, not that it would be super strong or anything though we shouldn’t dwell in the past.

The real match is between Donkey Kong and Punch-Out and while the match was 50/50 at the beginning of the bracket making process Punch-Out was able to take a lead by the end. Donkey Kong will always be remembered for almost blowing a 3300 vote lead against Duck Hunt. Duck Hunt was literally gaining at just enough votes per update to defeat DK by midnight (3am EST) though DK was able to mysteriously win a few updates preventing an embarrassing loss. This time I see DK as the underdog going into this match. While DK has been released on the virtual console Super Punch-Out!! was just released two weeks ago and the original is coming out next month. By the end of the era this division was based on PO was the more popular game.
charmander6000 | Posted 4/6/2009 8:13:06 PM | message detail
Fast forward to just a few years ago PO was a forgotten series while DK still had name recognition for the impact it did on gaming and by 2004 I wouldn’t have been surprised if DK had no problem winning against PO. Now with the release of the Wii and the virtual console PO has finally been able to expose itself on newer generations. Also while DK’s VC release came and went there was a lot of hype for PO’s. Of course that may have been from fans from the series and would have already voted for PO anyways. Still a welcoming response for PO is surely to get new people into the game.

First match of the contest and it’s already looking to be interesting. Tetris has first place locked up while PO and DK will fight for second. I’m giving the nod to PO, but I won’t be surprised if it chokes and loses to DK. This will also be the first time testing if the VC gives games any new strength or just give old fans a chance to replay some of their old favourites. Remember don’t make a decision of the effectiveness of the VC in only one match.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Tetris > Mike Tyson’s Punch-Out!!

charmander6000’s Prediction: Tetris – 43.37%, Mike Tyson’s Punch-Out!! – 24.62%, Donkey Kong – 20.83%, Space Invaders – 11.18%
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SonicRaptor | Posted 4/6/2009 8:14:19 PM | message detail
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SonicRaptor | Posted 4/6/2009 8:14:34 PM | message detail
Yeah, Space Invaders is going to be crushed by Tetris which will allow the latter to get into first. Tetris destroys classic game titles as seen in 2004.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/6/2009 8:14:59 PM | message detail

From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #057
I can proudly say I stuck to my guns on picking DK. Little Mac did poorly enough in the character battle that I can confidently not pick anything Punchout related to win anything.


oh turtle
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SonicRaptor | Posted 4/6/2009 8:15:36 PM | message detail
Everyone here needs to play more Punch-Out, the SNES version came onto the Wii VC last week.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 4/6/2009 8:18:14 PM | message detail
From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #057
I can proudly say I stuck to my guns on picking DK. Little Mac did poorly enough in the character battle that I can confidently not pick anything Punchout related to win anything.


Well, it'll cost ya.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/6/2009 8:22:11 PM | message detail
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#019 quick question:

out of all the prize money for all the contests so far. How much have been won by people who can fairly be said to be from this board?


creative, Ulti and that Jakyl guy as far as I can remember.

Didn't EC place high in 2007?
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charmander6000 | Posted 4/6/2009 8:41:56 PM | message detail
It's almost time.

How much of a lead will DK build?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/6/2009 8:42:26 PM | message detail
Considering the board vote...nothing.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/6/2009 8:42:53 PM | message detail
DK? Lead? don't make me laugh
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 4/6/2009 8:45:01 PM | message detail
Donkey Kong? Leading? Are you serious? Don't make me laugh.
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Lopen | Posted 4/6/2009 8:45:05 PM | message detail
Board vote goes to Mike Tyson. All hail.
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charmander6000 | Posted 4/6/2009 8:45:12 PM | message detail
DK will have a crazy night vote, just watch.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/6/2009 8:45:42 PM | message detail
a crazy bad night vote
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transience | Posted 4/6/2009 8:45:47 PM | message detail
so does Punch-Out. the day vote is probably Tetris here, the others are night guys.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/6/2009 8:46:04 PM | message detail
Round 1- Division 1: Match 1

Donkey Kong

Ah Donkey Kong, you and your hilarious choke jobs. Oh wait, this is a game contest.

Ah Donkey Kong, you and your hilarious choke jobs. Donkey Kong's 2004 performance was hilariously weak but it got lucky with placement and drew a relatively weak group.

Mike Tyson's Punch-Out

It's style is impetuous, it's defense is inpregnable. Oh wait, Little Mac, right.

lol fodder

Space Invaders

"Drop down, increase speed, reverse direction"

Tetris

Can Tetris pick up the torch where L-Block left off?

Analysis

Boooooooooooooooooooring

There's some debate between Punch-Out and Donkey Kong for second, but Donkey Kong went even with Duck Hunt, and I can't see Punch-Out beating Duck Hunt. This match, like so many others is a crapshoot. There's so little stats with regards to the games that it's hard to get a good feel in a lot of cases.

I feel fairly confident in Donkey Kong though. Little Mac did craptastic enough in the 2007 Character Battle that it's obvious Punch-Out doesn't have a strong core audience.

As for Space Invaders, as much as I love that game, it is a bit out of it's league here, and Tetris' spanking of Galaga in 2004 means I won't go anywhere near that pick. Stay tuned for tomorrow where we get to see Mega Man's game contest debut (now with 75% more turbofodder!).

TuRtLe's Prediction: Tetris 39%, Donkey Kong 25%, Punch-Out 21%, Space Invaders 15%
TuRtLe's Bracket: Tetris > Donkey Kong
TuRtLe's Vote: Space Invaders
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HaRRicH | Posted 4/6/2009 8:46:52 PM | message detail
Myself, Leonhart, tranny, and probably yo has won prize-money too. Fastfalcon did well last year too, though I've not seen him in awhile.


So close to the contest...!
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Lopen | Posted 4/6/2009 8:48:45 PM | message detail
I SHOULD have won money

-swears at bacon again-
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charmander6000 | Posted 4/6/2009 8:48:48 PM | message detail
so does Punch-Out. the day vote is probably Tetris here, the others are night guys.

Tetris had one of the worst day votes back in 2004. The game went from 85% to 78% against Galaga and 80% to 74% against Pong.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 4/6/2009 8:49:24 PM | message detail
LOL BT! Way to start off on the wrong foot, trusting Donkey Kong.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/6/2009 8:49:24 PM | message detail
Hypothetically, say WoW gets a pic like this

http://www.freakygaming.com/gallery/game_wallpapers/world_of_warcraft/sexy_night_elf.jpg

Think it would do better?
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 4/6/2009 8:50:11 PM | message detail
Oh, AND you're equating Little Mac to Punch-Out? Double LOL.
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HaRRicH | Posted 4/6/2009 8:50:19 PM | message detail
Nothing wrong with Tetris > DK! I don't think Little Mac is a fair gauge, though.....
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WarThaHedgehog | Posted 4/6/2009 8:50:27 PM | message detail
Dude, Galaga is a famous day vote beast.
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Mr3790 | Posted 4/6/2009 8:50:52 PM | message detail
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 4/6/2009 8:52:26 PM | message detail
Nothing wrong with Tetris > DK!

Other than the fact that Donkey Kong's probably set to take center stage as he chokes ONCE AGAIN!!
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charmander6000 | Posted 4/6/2009 8:54:44 PM | message detail
lol at people thinking DK has no chance, PO is the favourite, but DK can still win.
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BGE2 - Today's Match: Tetris > Punch-Out!! Points: 0/0
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/6/2009 8:55:16 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #086
lol at people thinking DK has no chance, PO is the favourite, but DK can still win.


Anytime DK is in a questionable match, we've been taught to NEVER side with DK.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/6/2009 8:55:43 PM | message detail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmG-Af0LK88

let's do this

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Karma Hunter | Posted 4/6/2009 8:55:49 PM | message detail
Wait, when did Punch-Out!! become the favorite?

I am so confused right now
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red sox 777 | Posted 4/6/2009 8:56:10 PM | message detail
People here are incredibly confident in Punch-Out....don't think that's a good sign!
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Bracket: Tetris > Punch-Out --- Vote: Punch-Out
Lopen | Posted 4/6/2009 8:56:26 PM | message detail
I give DK a decent chance here. Kinda surprised Punch-Out!! is the favorite.
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charmander6000 | Posted 4/6/2009 8:56:44 PM | message detail
Anytime DK is in a questionable match, we've been taught to NEVER side with DK.

That doesn't mean it has no chance.

Watch it win just to spite all of you guys.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/6/2009 8:56:50 PM | message detail

From: Karma Hunter | #089
Wait, when did Punch-Out!! become the favorite?

I am so confused right now


Everyone in the crew picked it!
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 4/6/2009 8:57:00 PM | message detail
Wait, when did Punch-Out!! become the favorite?

I am so confused right now


Dude, it's Donkey Kong. Ya know, he who loves to choke?
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 4/6/2009 8:57:00 PM | message detail
Punch-Out has like a 10 people advantage over DK in the BOP=Favorite
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Master Moltar | Posted 4/6/2009 8:58:04 PM | message detail
tetris domination i'm feeling it
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DK/Punch-Out/Space Invaders/Tetris - Bracket: Tetris > PO - Vote: Tetris (0/0)
MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/6/2009 8:58:17 PM | message detail
oh yeah. i better post in the BOP!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/6/2009 8:58:33 PM | message detail
Tetris gonna bomb here and only get 35%!
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Master Moltar | Posted 4/6/2009 9:00:16 PM | message detail
Donkey Kong 16.98%

9
Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!! 33.96%

18
Space Invaders 15.09%

8
Tetris 33.96%

18
TOTAL VOTES 53

let's do this
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DK/Punch-Out/Space Invaders/Tetris - Bracket: Tetris > PO - Vote: Tetris (0/0)
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/6/2009 9:00:20 PM | message detail
Donkey Kong 21.05%

4
Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!! 21.05%

4
Space Invaders 26.32%

5
Tetris 31.58%

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TOTAL VOTES 19

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