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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 664

UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/6/2009 4:54:39 PM | message detail
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Donkey Kong is so screwed.



~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
www.gamefaqscontests.com

~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

rSFF (Reverse Same Fanbase Factor): An unproven theory that states that an SFF match will feature the expected weaker character receiving more benefit from SFF than the stronger character. For example, all evidence supports Samus being indirectly stronger than Mario, yet Mario blew Samus away during their 2005 match. That's rSFF in action, and the one case we have of the weaker statistical character winning with it.

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/6/2009 4:55:59 PM | message detail
Let's do this

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paulg235 | Posted 4/6/2009 4:58:44 PM | message detail
In before brackets are busted and the casuals outsmart B8.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 4/6/2009 5:18:02 PM | message detail
Aw yeah Mike Tyson
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Eon_Latias | Posted 4/6/2009 5:19:54 PM | message detail
The contest pic screwed me over. So badly. So long, donkey kong.
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red sox 777 | Posted 4/6/2009 5:20:09 PM | message detail
Let's do this!

Am I crazy for having Secret of Mana over Mortal Kombat 2?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/6/2009 5:20:55 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #006
Let's do this!

Am I crazy for having Secret of Mana over Mortal Kombat 2?


I have it!
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 4/6/2009 5:21:15 PM | message detail
Eon, brackets are still open.
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Eon_Latias | Posted 4/6/2009 5:21:53 PM | message detail
Man, what was I thinking, hoping Donkey kong and tetris would pass.
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red sox 777 | Posted 4/6/2009 5:22:19 PM | message detail
You can still change your pick, Eon.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 4/6/2009 5:24:17 PM | message detail
Am I crazy for having Secret of Mana over Mortal Kombat 2?

Crazy awesome. It was six spots over MK1 on The List, that should be reason enough!
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/6/2009 5:25:12 PM | message detail
I'm now changing DK to Punch-Out!!

This is the first time I'm giving into late board hype but whatever. Donkey Kong sure as hell do anything in the character contest.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 4/6/2009 5:25:15 PM | message detail
MKII > MKI, darn it!
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Eon_Latias | Posted 4/6/2009 5:25:23 PM | message detail
Swapped out Donkey Kong for punchout. Lets hope it was a good decision.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/6/2009 5:27:19 PM | message detail
lots of people underestimating Secret of Mana due to its SFF beatdown, those people are gonna be burned
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LeonhartFour | Posted 4/6/2009 5:28:00 PM | message detail
Lots of people overestimating Secret of Mana expecting a SFF beatdown. Those people are gonna be burned.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 4/6/2009 5:28:34 PM | message detail
Actually

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1609
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1616

Assuming a moderate amount of SFF and MK roughly equal to MKII, it's not that unreasonable. However, I think the second assumption is probably false and Mana as a franchise hasn't done anything noteworthy in a loooooong time. Not a good bet but it'd be awesome if it happened.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/6/2009 5:28:39 PM | message detail
I have MK2 advancing but I'd love to see SoM advance. Mana series 4 life (until they ruined it anyway).
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Calintares | Posted 4/6/2009 6:04:53 PM | message detail
quick question:

out of all the prize money for all the contests so far. How much have been won by people who can fairly be said to be from this board?
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 4/6/2009 6:09:51 PM | message detail
In before brackets are busted and the casuals outsmart B8.

See, the first match of this contest is one that I highly suspect the casuals to outsmart the Gurus. Just like what happened with Altair/Guybrush/Issac/Lucario. 6.97% of Gurus had Altair in first, compared to 52.09% for the casuals.
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Yesmar | Posted 4/6/2009 7:22:36 PM | message detail
lol at the other topic. Does Ulti post anything relevant anymore, or just *****ing at other posters? Not that Albion doesn't act like an impudent child or anything.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/6/2009 7:26:18 PM | message detail

From: Yesmar | Posted: 4/6/2009 10:22:36 PM | #021
lol at the other topic. Does Ulti post anything relevant anymore, or just *****ing at other posters? Not that Albion doesn't act like an impudent child or anything.


What the **** are you talking about? That post where I actually said BT and Albion have good things to say once in awhile and now I haven't been ignoring them?

Some of you people go to the stupidest possible lengths to try making me look dumb, I swear. Only this board can take a compliment and twist it into "OMFG YOU WHINY *****".

Shut up.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/6/2009 7:27:13 PM | message detail
I haven't been massively active in these topics lately, either.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 4/6/2009 7:28:12 PM | message detail
Question: WHY did you people trust in Donkey Kong to do anything but choke?
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/6/2009 7:29:07 PM | message detail

From: Biolizard28 | Posted: 4/6/2009 10:28:12 PM | #024
Question: WHY did you people trust in Donkey Kong to do anything but choke?


Shouldn't DK be losing before the gloating starts? Punch-Out hasn't done anything yet.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/6/2009 7:29:44 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 4/6/2009 9:10:23 PM | #463
I've gotten way more lenient with not ignoring people (I pretty much read everything in the stats topic these days), but there are some people out to annoy everyone.


Yesmar thinks this is the single biggest insult in the history of English.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 4/6/2009 7:32:20 PM | message detail
Question: WHY did you people trust in Donkey Kong to do anything but choke?

I believe a known Nintendo character/game can beat a cult Nintendo game.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/6/2009 7:32:35 PM | message detail

From: Biolizard28 | #024
Question: WHY did you people trust in Donkey Kong to do anything but choke?


Because people don't learn from being burned sadly!
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Biolizard28 | Posted 4/6/2009 7:32:39 PM | message detail
I'm not gloating, I'm just asking. He hasn't proven his worth in 7 years.
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red sox 777 | Posted 4/6/2009 7:32:51 PM | message detail
It'll be interesting to see how Duck Hunt does in North America (where it was packaged with the NES) vs. the rest of the world. I'm thinking the contrast will be even greater than with Chrono Trigger or SMRPG. That explains why DH had such an amazing ASV, along with DK being horrid with it. Speaking of which....if DK only gets a small lead tonight, Punch-Out is coming back tomorrow afternoon.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/6/2009 7:33:49 PM | message detail
Nice one, KP.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/6/2009 7:33:54 PM | message detail
FIVE IN A ROW SOMEONE CALL THE NATIONAL GUARD BECAUSE EARTHBOUND IS KILLING THE STATS TOPIC BABY.

Play EarthBound.
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ZFS | Posted 4/6/2009 7:33:55 PM | message detail
Let's all hope DK doesn't even get close here. Who in the world likes the original Donkey Kong

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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/6/2009 7:33:58 PM | message detail
1.5 hours left

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/6/2009 7:34:34 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #034
1.5 hours left


Or 25.5 hours if Bacon decides to be a jerk :(
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/6/2009 7:34:41 PM | message detail

From: ZFS | Posted: 4/6/2009 10:33:55 PM | #033
Let's all hope DK doesn't even get close here. Who in the world likes the original Donkey Kong


I do :'(
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Biolizard28 | Posted 4/6/2009 7:34:45 PM | message detail
From: ZFS | #033
Let's all hope DK doesn't even get close here. Who in the world likes the original Donkey Kong

It's not like it's a terrible game, you know.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/6/2009 7:35:05 PM | message detail
Eventually, everyone in the stats topic will feel the irresistible urge to Play EarthBound!

Hooray for subliminal messaging!

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XxSoulxX | Posted 4/6/2009 7:35:05 PM | message detail
I'm not gloating, I'm just asking. He hasn't proven his worth in 7 years.

As opposed to... Little Mac, who lost to Amaratsetsu?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/6/2009 7:35:32 PM | message detail

From: XxSoulxX | #039
I'm not gloating, I'm just asking. He hasn't proven his worth in 7 years.

As opposed to... Little Mac, who lost to Amaratsetsu?


Little mac is no tyson, friend.
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ZFS | Posted 4/6/2009 7:35:50 PM | message detail
It's not like it's a terrible game, you know.

Yes, it is!

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Biolizard28 | Posted 4/6/2009 7:35:53 PM | message detail
Starting a contest on Tuesday would be a pretty stupid move.

Therefore, it's guaranteed to happen.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/6/2009 7:36:06 PM | message detail
He's not your friend, BUDDY.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 4/6/2009 7:36:21 PM | message detail

Little mac is no tyson, friend.


Nope, Mac is more popular.
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charmander6000 | Posted 4/6/2009 7:36:31 PM | message detail
BOP update

http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls

We have 55 brackets, also in the second page I only listed games which had more than 3 brackets supporting the pick, this is to take down clutter and show who the real favourites are.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/6/2009 7:37:51 PM | message detail
Donkey Kong JR better watch out... Mike Tyson likes to eat his opponents babies
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/6/2009 7:38:37 PM | message detail
Started back up the contest chat on AIM. Room is bge2009, or you can IM me (Mega64) if you need an invite.

Wanted to spread the word to other stats goers excited and wanting to talk contest in real-time.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/6/2009 7:39:16 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #043
He's not your friend, BUDDY.


He's not your buddy, GUY.
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Yesmar | Posted 4/6/2009 7:39:51 PM | message detail
Yesmar thinks this is the single biggest insult in the history of English.

I mean in general over the past couple of topics. Not that comment. There's no point in constantly pointing out who you should ignore which you do *all* the time.

Question: WHY did you people trust in Donkey Kong to do anything but choke?

Donkey Kong has still won every match he was predicted to. People claim that his matches against Vercetti and Master Chief were chokes, when the fact that he was close to them at all was a big accomplishment. He cut it close against Aya and Duck Hunt, but he/it still won. This past year was the only time he was really the favorite and lost. Maybe against Vivi, but I thought the board consensus was Vivi in that one.

And DK/ Duck Hunt has always seemed a little fishy to me. There's a group of 4 matches within a week of one another in Sp2004, where one entrant starts eating up percentage for half the match regardless of vote trends, and Duck Hunt is one of those entrants. The others are Contra (which goes from being 50/50 with Phantasy Star with the first night vote to getting close to *70%* with the second one), Galaga, and The Simpsons.
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red sox 777 | Posted 4/6/2009 7:43:36 PM | message detail
I don't know about the others, but Duck Hunt being much much more popular in North America than elsewhere would explain that one. We'll get to see it in action again soon enough.
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