GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 661
| red sox 777 | Posted 4/2/2009 11:18:12 AM | message detail |
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Also, I don't trust the 2004 x-stats on Division 128, especially not on
Starcraft's half of the division. I think I would take SF2 over Halo
now....probably not over Kingdom Hearts, which has probably boosted a
lot since 2004. --- Hobbes: What's the point of attaching a number to everything you do? Calvin: If your numbers go up, it means you're having more fun. |
| charmander6000 | Posted 4/2/2009 12:14:45 PM | message detail |
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2004 Kingdom Hearts would've lost to 2004 Half-Life IMO. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls Submit BOP here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=48529509 |
| RPGGamer0 | Posted 4/2/2009 12:34:14 PM | message detail |
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FF7 > OoT > MGS > SMB3 in the finals. If that doesn't happen, I'll eat my hat. --- |PM| Congrats to FastFalcon05 for winning the Guru contest. |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/2/2009 12:37:33 PM | message detail |
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I don't see how MGS makes the finals. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://www.duelinganalogs.com/comics/2009-03-23.gif |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/2/2009 12:39:46 PM | message detail |
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Karma Hunter explained that pretty well. I think I would take SF2 over Halo now....probably not over Kingdom Hearts, which has probably boosted a lot since 2004. I would agree with this though I'm not sure how much KH boosted, but it wouldn't be a blowout for either game. Though this puts Super Mario RPG in some good light... hmm.. SMRPG > KH? --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/2/2009 12:42:13 PM | message detail |
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From: MarioSuperstar | #355 I would put SMRPG over KH of 2004, easily. I'm not sure how much its boosted since then though --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://www.duelinganalogs.com/comics/2009-03-23.gif |
| red sox 777 | Posted 4/2/2009 12:44:53 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, KH now is probably a lot stronger than back then. In 2003, Sora
got doubled by Aeris, and last year he apparently beat Squall outright
outside of Europe. --- Hobbes: What's the point of attaching a number to everything you do? Calvin: If your numbers go up, it means you're having more fun. |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 4/2/2009 12:46:37 PM | message detail |
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And both KH games suffer from unlucky placement (FFX and TP/RE4 in
round 2), just like Sora being glued to Squall the last few years. --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/2/2009 12:53:59 PM | message detail |
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I'm pretty sure KH will do quite well in this format compared to 1vs1 if Sora's any sign. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/2/2009 1:11:16 PM | message detail |
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Also, is that WoW match on Tuesday or not? --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| The Mana Sword | Posted 4/2/2009 1:11:43 PM | message detail |
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I hope you're not serious. --- Kleenex...at work! |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/2/2009 1:11:56 PM | message detail |
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From: MarioSuperstar | #360 Saturday. Woulda been Tuesday if not for the delay =\ --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://lw-studio.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/pics/TengenToppaGurrenLagannYOKO/TengenToppaGurrenLagannYOKO01.gif |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/2/2009 1:23:28 PM | message detail |
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I'm quite happy for the delay then. :) --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| Dilated Chemist | Posted 4/2/2009 1:27:18 PM | message detail |
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Would someone please explain the special connecntion between WoW and Tuesdays? --- [ FINAL FOUR ] FFVII / LoZ: A Link to the Past / LoZ: Ocarina of Time / FFX |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/2/2009 1:32:25 PM | message detail |
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From: Dilated Chemist | Posted: 4/2/2009 4:27:18 PM | #361 Server maintenance and patches and all that on Tuesdays, so it makes forum rallying VERY easy. --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Diablo 2, Lunar: SSSC |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/2/2009 1:43:33 PM | message detail |
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Oh and I'm surprised it took this long for FF8 > Starcraft
discussion. I think it's very possible, and I was debating that match
for days. FF8 could potentially be anywhere, and 2004 overrated
Starcraft. I'm nearly positive it will disappoint in this contest.
Sadly for FF8, it gets screwed over by FFT if it gets that far. --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Diablo 2, Lunar: SSSC |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/2/2009 1:45:03 PM | message detail |
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FF8 > Starcraft, and I'd be surprised if FFT gets out of the first round --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://lw-studio.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/pics/TengenToppaGurrenLagannYOKO/TengenToppaGurrenLagannYOKO01.gif |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/2/2009 1:50:10 PM | message detail |
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That Starcraft 8-pack has been bugging me from the get-go. 2 first round matches that completely change up to the quarterfinals depending on who wins. Of course, I think Starcraft is far enough ahead of FF8 that Half-Life shouldn't do too much damage, but it worries me, because if FF8 gets out of that match, it's going deep. For once, I'm cheering for Final Fantasy 9. It makes me feel so dirty. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 4/2/2009 1:51:55 PM | message detail |
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Then again, if FFT gets to round 3, FF8's screwed. --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/2/2009 1:52:02 PM | message detail |
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I don't see why people are so high on Starcraft. Starcraft just BARELY
beat Wind Waker even with all of its rallying and cheating, and I'd
easily put FF8 over Wind Waker. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://lw-studio.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/pics/TengenToppaGurrenLagannYOKO/TengenToppaGurrenLagannYOKO01.gif |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/2/2009 1:52:15 PM | message detail |
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From: MyWorldIsCrono | #367 FFT > MGS in round 1 and round 2. 2004 MGS is overrated because of TTS just coming out. Since then, FFT has had a well-recieved remake on the PSP that get's rid of the few complaints with the original game. My only worry is that FFT/MGS hurt eachother enough so that Zelda squeaks by, but FFT beating MGS is one thing I'm pretty sure about. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 4/2/2009 1:52:47 PM | message detail |
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I think it's very possible, and I was debating that match for days.
FF8 could potentially be anywhere, and 2004 overrated Starcraft. I'm
nearly positive it will disappoint in this contest. I have to agree here. --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/2/2009 1:53:52 PM | message detail |
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I wouldn't put FF8 over 2004 Wind Waker. As much as Zelda fans disliked
that game, it still was the only Gamecube game worth playing for the
longest time (Metroid Prime and Melee aside). Wind Waker is going to
tank here, but it was a force in 2004. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| Zylo the wolf | Posted 4/2/2009 1:54:22 PM | message detail |
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Sorry but FFVIII got no chance in hell to advance from round 2. Because FFIX will get all the votes from RPG players with good taste. Then again, if that mattered Xenogears would RPG SFF it enough for Soul Calibur to beat it. --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. FastFalcon05 > Me |
| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 4/2/2009 1:54:47 PM | message detail |
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2004 MGS is overrated because of TTS just coming out. Since then,
FFT has had a well-recieved remake on the PSP that get's rid of the few
complaints with the original game. Never mind the fact that Ramza looked TERRIBLE in his match, almost losing to LAHARL, of all people, and MGS has been on the rise recently. --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
| red sox 777 | Posted 4/2/2009 1:57:46 PM | message detail |
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FFT > MGS in round 1 and round 2. 2004 MGS is overrated because of TTS just coming out. Since then, FFT has had a well-recieved remake on the PSP that get's rid of the few complaints with the original game. My only worry is that FFT/MGS hurt eachother enough so that Zelda squeaks by, but FFT beating MGS is one thing I'm pretty sure about. .......I don't know what to say to this. --- Hobbes: What's the point of attaching a number to everything you do? Calvin: If your numbers go up, it means you're having more fun. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/2/2009 1:58:12 PM | message detail |
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If 8 and 9 meet, 8 is going to kick the utter crap out of 9. Sure 9 has it's small little fanboy club, but 8 is much more liked on the whole. The only reason I didn't have 9 in round 2 is because that little fanboy club I mentioned is the same little fanboy club that actually enjoyed that smoldering piece of crap Chrono Cross, meaning a harsh split there. Damn you bad-taste fanboy clubs... --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/2/2009 1:59:22 PM | message detail |
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Here we go again. What exactly is the confidence that MGS beats FFT? If we didn't see them go even in 2004, I would probably agree, but FFT has had a lot more going for it than MGS since then, and 2004 was probably the strongest we'll ever see the original game. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 4/2/2009 2:00:16 PM | message detail |
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Then again, if that mattered Xenogears would RPG SFF it enough for Soul Calibur to beat it. Considering Xenogears got pasted by FF7, I'd hesitate to consider it doing much to FF8, and 2004 overrated Soul Calibur. --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 4/2/2009 2:01:19 PM | message detail |
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What exactly is the confidence that MGS beats FFT? If we didn't see them go even in 2004, I would probably agree, but FFT has had a lot more going for it than MGS since then, and 2004 was probably the strongest we'll ever see the original game. I can aask the same of you as to why you're so confident that FFT has first place in the bag. --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 4/2/2009 2:03:06 PM | message detail |
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1769 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3306 Take a wild guess about why people think MGS would be stronger now than 2004. --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
| red sox 777 | Posted 4/2/2009 2:03:24 PM | message detail |
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Have you seen what has happened to Snake since 2004? That was the year
he outright lost multiple hours to Frog. And then got Ulti-style
blownout by Megaman. I'll agree the idea that RPGs such as FFT must have gotten weaker is grounded mostly in speculation based on characters (we haven't had a games contest since then to give us any hard data, after all), but even that speculation is pretty convincing. Also, for what it's worth, MGS did very well on the List in 2005, and I doubt it would have placed that high in 2004 (notice Snake's jump started in 2005, before he was announced to be in Brawl). --- Hobbes: What's the point of attaching a number to everything you do? Calvin: If your numbers go up, it means you're having more fun. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/2/2009 2:03:33 PM | message detail |
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I've given reasons. TTS being new in the 2004 contest and the FFT remake last year. What are yours? --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| trannyscience | Posted 4/2/2009 2:05:05 PM | message detail |
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you know, Xenogears didn't get "pasted" by FF7, not any more than any
other game. it actually held up pretty well, all things considered -
FF7 is Xenogears's absolute worst match. when you consider that MGS got
like 28%, Xenogears's 20% really isn't that bad considering it has WAY
more overlap. --- xyzzy http://i42.tinypic.com/2vbwhn4.jpg |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/2/2009 2:05:18 PM | message detail |
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Because he was announced for Brawl and exposed/introduced to a whole new demographic? By your logic, we should take MGS > Chrono Trigger because Snake is stronger than Crono now --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 4/2/2009 2:05:29 PM | message detail |
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Metal Gear Solid 4 and Ramza's ass-bad performance REALLY dropping FFT stock. --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/2/2009 2:06:17 PM | message detail |
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Ramza always was "ass-bad" though. Games != characters. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/2/2009 2:06:29 PM | message detail |
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People. Just ignore him. --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/2/2009 2:06:55 PM | message detail |
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As the biggest FFT fan in the world, I will guarantee Metal Gear Solid beats it twice. Easily, in fact. --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Diablo 2, Lunar: SSSC |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/2/2009 2:07:16 PM | message detail |
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And who are the only people who bought and enjoyed MGS4? Fans of the series, aka people who voted for it in 2004 anyways. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| red sox 777 | Posted 4/2/2009 2:07:23 PM | message detail |
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No, MGS didn't boost as much as Snake, but it's not like it needs that
kind of astronomical boost to win a match it already won last time. --- Hobbes: What's the point of attaching a number to everything you do? Calvin: If your numbers go up, it means you're having more fun. |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/2/2009 2:08:48 PM | message detail |
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I have ZERO faith in FFT after seeing Ramza lose to Hogger and ALMOST lose to Laharl --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://lw-studio.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/pics/TengenToppaGurrenLagannYOKO/TengenToppaGurrenLagannYOKO01.gif |
| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 4/2/2009 2:10:00 PM | message detail |
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I have ZERO faith in FFT after seeing Ramza lose to Hogger and ALMOST lose to Laharl Same here. --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 4/2/2009 2:15:00 PM | message detail |
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FFT's match with MGS happened within less than a year of Ramza keeping
Kirby to nearly 55%. Compare to his performance last year and you have
one that's bad, and one that's HOLY CRAP WHAT THE HELL --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/2/2009 2:17:22 PM | message detail |
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From: The n00b Avenger | #394 This too. Ramza went from a respectable mid carder (this is the same % Tidus once put up against Kirby), to having trouble fending over LAHARL. Why not believe the game itself has fallen off big time as well? --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://lw-studio.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/pics/TengenToppaGurrenLagannYOKO/TengenToppaGurrenLagannYOKO01.gif |
| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 4/2/2009 2:19:23 PM | message detail |
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From: The n00b Avenger | #394 FFT's match with MGS happened within less than a year of Ramza keeping Kirby to nearly 55%. Compare to his performance last year and you have one that's bad, and one that's HOLY CRAP WHAT THE HELL This too. Ramza went from a respectable mid carder (this is the same % Tidus once put up against Kirby), to having trouble fending over LAHARL. Why not believe the game itself has fallen off big time as well? I have to agree here. Laharl is right down there with Ratchet and Guybrush Threepwood as one of the weakest characters to make multiple contests, and yet Ramza had trouble beating him. Why do you think that is...? --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/2/2009 2:20:53 PM | message detail |
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While obviously FFT won't be this weak, its still troubling the main
character of the game has gotten so much weaker over the last 5 years,
that I can't see it NOT affecting the game itself too. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://lw-studio.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/pics/TengenToppaGurrenLagannYOKO/TengenToppaGurrenLagannYOKO01.gif |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/2/2009 2:27:51 PM | message detail |
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Games =/= characters. And as a side note, I guarantee you Delita would
have gotten second place in that match. Ramza kinda sucks. --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Diablo 2, Lunar: SSSC |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/2/2009 2:29:54 PM | message detail |
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From: UltimaterializerX | #398 While games doesn't always equal characters, the fact is, Ramza is alot weaker then 5 years ago regardless. And if he's weaker, then why wouldn't the game be weaker? Theres a reason Ramza has gotten weaker, and I'm sure it relates to the game as well. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://lw-studio.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/pics/TengenToppaGurrenLagannYOKO/TengenToppaGurrenLagannYOKO01.gif |
| red sox 777 | Posted 4/2/2009 2:30:57 PM | message detail |
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Ramza would have taken second without Albion rallying. Not that that's much comfort considering how close he was to Laharl. --- Hobbes: What's the point of attaching a number to everything you do? Calvin: If your numbers go up, it means you're having more fun. |
