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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 660

MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/28/2009 9:39:46 AM | message detail
Franchise voting plays a part, but I doubt it's big.

Maybe more people simply bought the game; but that is a huge difference to make up to franchise voting alone without Brawl at least dropping some.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/28/2009 9:48:30 AM | message detail
non VG character contest on a site like this would be horrible imo,sure it'd inpredictable but hannibal lector vs jarjar binks is something i do not want.

This is the second person to mention Jar Jar Binks. Stop using characters who will never make the contest as an example. Use Vader, Obi Wan, or Han Solo.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/28/2009 9:49:42 AM | message detail
If we ever get a cross-media character battle I'm totally starting a Jar Jar Binks nomination rally.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/28/2009 9:52:11 AM | message detail
Good luck.
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Yesmar | Posted 3/28/2009 10:12:56 AM | message detail
If we're trying to start a rally for any uber-fodder character it should be one with almost an entirely female fanbase like Barbie.

Think about it, either it would be funny to see her get utterly destroyed, or we'd be laughing at the fact that someone like Batman couldn't even get 90% on Barbie.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/28/2009 10:24:37 AM | message detail
I don't know I'd probably vote for Barbie out of respect its done for the toy industry.

Not over Batman of course.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 3/28/2009 10:30:35 AM | message detail
Its funny how some people assume Nintendo SFFs then don't acknowledge that the two biggest FPS on 360 would sff.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/28/2009 10:44:43 AM | message detail
Which two games are we talking about?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 3/28/2009 11:04:31 AM | message detail
Halo 3 and CoD4
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/28/2009 11:48:33 AM | message detail
I'm assuming you are talking about Fallout 3/Halo 3 which is IMO a very debatable match or do you mean the thrashing that SMG gave both of them as a reason for SMG > SSBB.
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voltch | Posted 3/28/2009 11:50:02 AM | message detail
you knoooooooow binks would get a random rally out of nowhere,but given bacon's 4 way love think of this.
Yoda/Vader/Skywalker/Obi-Wan
or perhaps even worse
Han Solo/Indiana Jones/Rocky/Rambo

ugly 4 ways at best.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/28/2009 12:03:26 PM | message detail
That second one is a kickass match. Throw some game characters in there and we're golden.

Master Chief/Dante/Han Solo/Harry Potter

Are you kidding me? Every bit as unpredictable, and loads more awesome.

A contest is comprised of two basic components: format and roster. A good 90% of the people here will tell you that we appear to be stuck with an inferior format, so if we want to make things more entertaining and interesting, the only way seems to be tweaking the roster. And if it sucks, so what? It's a foregone conclusion that 4way Character Battle III will suck. The last one concluded with one of the most exciting weeks in contest history, and most people here will still tell you that contest sucked. At least try to mix things up.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/28/2009 12:11:41 PM | message detail
Less restrictive 4-way character contest would be awesome and completely insane. If you're going for nonsensical garbage results, you might as well go all-out with it.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/28/2009 12:12:02 PM | message detail
Thank god I'm one of the few people here who kind of likes 4-ways. These "every 4-way character battle will suck" comments makes me wonder how long some of you are going to stay here.

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1v1s | Posted 3/28/2009 12:13:11 PM | message detail
Every 4 way will suck.

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/28/2009 12:16:59 PM | message detail
Ulti gets it.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/28/2009 12:33:12 PM | message detail
I think people hate 4-ways because results happen with no logical reasoning and I'm sure the majority of people here love logic.
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Lopen | Posted 3/28/2009 1:30:49 PM | message detail
Eh most results have logic, even in four ways. It's just not logic this topic tends to enjoy applying.

I think I'd like to see the all character four way contest. It'd be ridiculous but I'm just dying for a one year break (or alternatively a one year switch in format but that never happens) from the character battle at this point to shake our knowledge up a bit.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/28/2009 1:43:04 PM | message detail
The first 4-ways contest was great because it was new and unexpected. Plus, the bracket was actually put together well and we had a great deal of close matches. This wasn't so last year. The bracket wasn't put together very well, and so we didn't end up with as many good matches. Gimmicks should not be reused though, and that's the problem with 4-ways. It's a gimmick, nothing more.

Galaxy would never struggle against MGS4 in a poll.

People keep saying this, but you can't find a single poll where Galaxy outdoes Brawl in anything. You can point to Galaxy's 2007 GOTY win compared to Brawl's 2008 GOTY win, but today's poll shouts it out loud and clear that Brawl won despite the fact that Nintendo's power has lessened since 2007. I guarantee Galaxy doesn't put up 47% on Halo 3 and CoD4 if you run that poll RIGHT NOW.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/28/2009 1:43:54 PM | message detail
Also, I'm for an all-out character battle featuring characters from any media.

Captain Jack Sparrow for contest champ!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/28/2009 1:56:43 PM | message detail
Let's look at how this is going compared to the first time we had one, which was July 29, 2008.

Today:

Wii - 58.41%
XBox 360 - 53.50%
PS3 - 37.15%

Then:

Wii - 57.44%
XBox 360 - 48.47%
PS3 - 31.58%

Wii's only gone up by a percent, 360 by 5%, and PS3 by nearly 6% in the last six months.

Let's check out the "Got..." polls at the end of 2007.

Wii - 56.9% (29.55% don't want one)
360 - 47.76% (34.28% don't want one)
PS3 - 21.39% (44.55% don't want one)

End of 2008:

Wii - 62.66% (27.96% don't want one)
360 - 55.97% (30.46% don't want one)
PS3 - 36.59% (39.49% don't want one)
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 3/28/2009 2:24:04 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #114
Thank god I'm one of the few people here who kind of likes 4-ways. These "every 4-way character battle will suck" comments makes me wonder how long some of you are going to stay here.


I'm surprised Bacon hasn't put in a rule that it becomes modable to complain about 4ways with how bad its gotten.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/28/2009 2:26:35 PM | message detail
That would be dumb, that's probably why he hasn't.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 3/28/2009 2:27:50 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #123
That would be dumb, that's probably why he hasn't.


But its Bacon. Whether its dumb or not doesn't matter.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 3/28/2009 2:29:44 PM | message detail
Oh and my opinion on the non gaming character contests;

Do that on a non gaming site.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/28/2009 2:31:35 PM | message detail
Yeah, because gaming sites have never had those contests before with success.
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Meeks54 | Posted 3/28/2009 2:32:38 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #126
Yeah, because gaming sites have never had those contests before with success.




IGN is not a gaming site... so no, they haven't.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 3/28/2009 2:33:33 PM | message detail
IGN is a total multimedia site... Movies, games, music, comics, tv, etc.

Have those kinds of contests there. Not on a gaming site.
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Meeks54 | Posted 3/28/2009 2:37:44 PM | message detail
First off, the problem is of course Jack ****ing Bauer wins by default, this is not even debatable. So it would be boring. Secondly, I don't care about non gaming characters in a contest like that....who gives a ****?


That said, we could put Bauer in any contest and Bauer wins by default.


Best Planet ever? Jack Bauer.
Best Ocean Ever? Jack Bauer.
Best Game Ever? Jack Bauer.
Best Pokemon Ever? Jack Bauer.
Person who makes Chuck Norris and Superman wet their pants? Jack Bauer.
2 against 9? Jack Bauer.

And the list goes on.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 3/28/2009 2:39:03 PM | message detail
... I doubt Jack Bauer would even be in the final four compared to characters like Darth Vader and Batman. He's too new and he's not as well known as those characters. But that arguement is meaningless anyway since we're never gonna get a contest like that.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/28/2009 2:40:42 PM | message detail
I can understand why people would hate four-ways, but not why they persist in hating them. They're obviously here to stay for a while, so you might as well enjoy them as much as possible.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 3/28/2009 2:41:56 PM | message detail
I can understand why people would hate four-ways

I think the biggest contest buffs are the only one who really hate them, because the only arguement against them is if their legit for the strength of the characters, and I doubt outside of the contest buffs, many people care about if an online poll if legit.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/28/2009 2:42:50 PM | message detail
Nah, I've seen a lot of people outside contest buffs complaining about LFF. At the very least, everyone hates seeing their favorites lose because of a fanbase split.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 3/28/2009 2:44:34 PM | message detail
I think part of the reason I like 4ways though is I'm not a Nintendo fan, and most of the SFF/LFF Splits have been with Nintendo characters getting screwed, so that doesn't bother me.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/28/2009 2:48:33 PM | message detail
So any news on

Guru
Crew

Or have we just stopped caring?

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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/28/2009 2:50:29 PM | message detail
What news would there be about the Guru other than the sign-up until the lockdown?

As for the Crew, uhh...
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/28/2009 2:51:48 PM | message detail
I don't know, I thought the Guru closed signups a little early or something. Or maybe I'm just crazy.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/28/2009 2:52:21 PM | message detail
From what I remember, they don't close until bracket lockdown, but I may be wrong.
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SonicRaptor | Posted 3/28/2009 3:09:51 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #138
From what I remember, they don't close until bracket lockdown, but I may be wrong.


I believe they do as well, there are far too many people (the Guru has 200+ entries right now) who might make last-second bracket changes. It's safer to wait until the lockdown lest one incorrect bracket slip through because someone had a last moment change of heart.
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Yesmar | Posted 3/28/2009 3:11:25 PM | message detail

I think the biggest contest buffs are the only one who really hate them, because the only arguement against them is if their legit for the strength of the characters, and I doubt outside of the contest buffs, many people care about if an online poll if legit.


Or people don't care about stuff being legit, and just think that 1 v. 1 is more intense and dramatic.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 3/28/2009 3:12:46 PM | message detail

From: Yesmar | #140

I think the biggest contest buffs are the only one who really hate them, because the only arguement against them is if their legit for the strength of the characters, and I doubt outside of the contest buffs, many people care about if an online poll if legit.


Or people don't care about stuff being legit, and just think that 1 v. 1 is more intense and dramatic.


But thats silly, cuz 4way is more intense and dramatic.
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SonicRaptor | Posted 3/28/2009 3:20:27 PM | message detail
The 1v1 matches were getting a little stale and I think L-Block wiping the floor with the main bracket made it obvious a shake-up had to happen. I believe the majority of L-Blocks joke votes were people sick of the format and wanted SOMETHING new besides Cloud/Link for eternity. The only thing that would have changed every year under 1v1 would be new characters from new games...though they would be eliminated come Round 2 and we'd be back to Clinkeroth XXXIV.

4v4 replaces the intensity of 1v1 matches with complete and utter unpredictability. Not only do you have to judge who is strongest, but who will split the vote amongst his competitors and to what degree meaning you have to judge everyone in the four-pack. Forcing the player to draw the top two characters/games is like an extra layer of crazy because it's possible for someone to edge into spot #2 from a vote split despite not being strong.

Something had to change, and I think 4v4 was for the best.
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plasmabeam | Posted 3/28/2009 3:26:42 PM | message detail
So any news on

Guru
Crew

Or have we just stopped caring?


By the way, does this board still do the Prophet Challenge? Although I was kinda busy last summer, I don't recall if I saw any topics for it.

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/28/2009 3:29:50 PM | message detail
Oh and my opinion on the non gaming character contests;

Do that on a non gaming site.


Tons (more than half?) of our normal polls of the day have nothing to do with gaming. It would be ridiculous for Bacon to pull this argument.

I can understand why people would hate four-ways, but not why they persist in hating them. They're obviously here to stay for a while, so you might as well enjoy them as much as possible.

Agreed! Bring on Darth Vader and that boy wizard with the lightning scar, Harry Potter!

YER A WIZARD HARRY
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/28/2009 3:31:43 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2818

harry potter underestimation up in here.
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SonicRaptor | Posted 3/28/2009 3:32:35 PM | message detail
I would love to see a movie character contest just for the sheer insanity Board 8 would descent into once the Vegeta/Superman match was drawn.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/28/2009 3:40:57 PM | message detail
Sir Chris did the Prophet Challenge after MMXCalibur dropped it, but I don't remember if he's still doing it or not.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 3/28/2009 4:14:32 PM | message detail
Hey Plasma, you use a new AIM name? I havent seen your Axl Classic or Axl Rose one on forever.
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plasmabeam | Posted 3/28/2009 4:46:48 PM | message detail
^ Ever since I started college back in September, I've rarely gone on AIM. It absolutely wrecks my work ethic, and it turns a 1-page essay into a 2 and 1/2 hour "Ooookay, where was I?" clinic. And that's without even taking into consideration the frustration associated with the random convos from the varoius people that should forever be labeled as "high school" friends.

I'll try to go on one of these days for ya, though.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/28/2009 4:57:05 PM | message detail
Anyone wanting me to do the contest percentages by time period again for this contest?
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