GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 659
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 3/25/2009 9:07:35 AM | message detail |
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From: UltimaterializerX | #349 Closest you'll find is a GC port. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/03/chris_redfielded.jpg |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/25/2009 9:22:12 AM | message detail |
| FF4 really isn't that weak if you ask me. It's
probably equal to FF at worst, but with all the remakes its had, it's
more than likely a tad bit stronger. FF4 has been SFF'd by FF6 by probably every single poll they share, and FF4 characters have actually done fine for themselves; at least as good as Kefka. SNES SFF makes sense, but I would guarantee that Mario splits are a lot more significant, and I can easily see FF4 getting from low to mid 40's on Mario World. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/25/2009 9:23:14 AM | message detail |
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Kefka would kill Cecil --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/25/2009 9:24:33 AM | message detail |
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at least as good as Kefka. So you're admitting it'll bomb. Good :) --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Diablo 2, Lunar: SSSC |
| UItimaterializer | Posted 3/25/2009 9:28:40 AM | message detail |
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Wow, this board gets really annoying when you use an account that has
no ignore list on it. I'm truly stunned 20-somethings can dedicate
their entire scope of free time to trolling a gaming forum. Good to see
some future JPs in action, I guess. --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Diablo 2, Lunar: SSSC |
| Crimson Dragoon | Posted 3/25/2009 9:30:20 AM | message detail |
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From: UltimaterializerX | #349 I really need to play RE2 one of these days. Was it ever remade or anything? Never fully remade (yet!), but it's on like six different systems so finding a copy shouldn't be hard. Also it's my personal best game ever. --- ~FFDragon. (at Work !!) The Cream of Resident Evil Fanboyism. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/25/2009 9:30:46 AM | message detail |
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RE2 gets to round 2 and RE4 gets to round 4 --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/25/2009 9:31:03 AM | message detail |
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From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #353 From: UltimaterializerX | #354 We all know old square games >>> old square characters. Though that may not hold for true on FF4, but I'll take that jump. and yeah Cecil would beat Kefka, but compare what the girl, Kain, and Cecil did. In this format, they looked about as good as Kefka. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| UItimaterializer | Posted 3/25/2009 9:32:24 AM | message detail |
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From: Crimson Dragoon | Posted: 3/25/2009 12:30:20 PM | #356 Since you likely have 57 copies of the game, let me borrow one? I know we've had this conversation before, but you're NEVER on AIM and I'm sure as hell not posting my address in public. --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Diablo 2, Lunar: SSSC |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/25/2009 9:33:40 AM | message detail |
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er, I mean Kefka would beat Cecil btw. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| UItimaterializer | Posted 3/25/2009 9:34:01 AM | message detail |
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Cecil would beat Kefka You're joking, right? --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Diablo 2, Lunar: SSSC |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 3/25/2009 9:38:37 AM | message detail |
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That "girl" only did well cuz of boobs --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/03/chris_redfielded.jpg |
| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/25/2009 9:41:01 AM | message detail |
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If Rydia didn't have that pic...She likely would've gotten last place. --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/25/2009 9:48:02 AM | message detail |
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How much can really be attributed to her boobs? How far behind would
she be behind Marcus Fenix? Because if it's not far, even that's
impressive enough for me. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/25/2009 11:44:12 AM | message detail |
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I'm still surprised Rydia did so good there. Unless that was more Marcus dropping like the Chief. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| Yesmar | Posted 3/25/2009 11:49:53 AM | message detail |
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Kefka is really not popular. Like below the fodder line level. He
wasn't that far above it to begin with, and I see no reason why he
would not have dropped as dramatically as Crono did in '07. No clue why
Rydia did better than him though. Must have been the picture. --- FastFalcon owned me in the Guru Contest! |
| plasmabeam | Posted 3/25/2009 12:20:51 PM | message detail |
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Can someone explain to me why SM64 can't beat CT in the Division
Finals? I don't see Goldeneye leeching SM64 that badly, and I'm sure
Mario will feel the full force of Nintendo support in that match-up. The only question is whether or not FF7 can SFF CT enough. --- ~Jacksonville Jaguars~ |
| ZFS | Posted 3/25/2009 12:29:04 PM | message detail |
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Are we seriously attributing Rydia's strength to 'TJF'? Well then. Time to credit Kain's showing as having the same last name as Cid from FFVII. --- http://www.mistwalkercorp.com/en/_src/sc569/HNI_0022.jpg |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 3/25/2009 12:30:06 PM | message detail |
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*looks at Zack* ...Wouldn't surprise me too much! --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/25/2009 1:12:54 PM | message detail |
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The only question is whether or not FF7 can SFF CT enough. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1663 --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| Meeks54 | Posted 3/25/2009 1:22:02 PM | message detail |
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Some strength differences can't be overcome with SFF. SM 64 does not
have near the pure strength to take out #3 on this site. That is
without Goldeneye, with Goldeneye, it just becomes a massive blowout. --- Gunner is, what is the word... passionate. but i think that MichaelWClark dude is far crazier than anything Gunner has posted. Posted by Mark Milton |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 3/25/2009 1:24:10 PM | message detail |
| If Goldeneye was replaced with a completely
unrelated 3rd party I think it would be an attractive upset. FF7 and CT
probably share a good enough amount of fanbase despite the fact that CT
won't be SFFed. But with Goldeneye, kind of ruins it --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
| plasmabeam | Posted 3/25/2009 1:39:16 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, I already looked at the Sp2k4 result. Here's my problem with CT
vs. FF7: CT undoubtedly had the FF7 anti-votes entirely in its favor,
so that 17,000+ vote margin is misleading. On top of that, 2k4's Game Contest happened a full year before Magus (who used to edge Ganondorf and rack-in 35% against Link) bowed out to Knuckles and Crono lost by 8,000 to Mario. The year prior (Summer 2k4, right after the Game Contest) featured Crono completing a 6,000 vote job over Mario. In one year, we had a 14,000 vote swing in Nintendo's favor. Now obviously, characters =/= games, but it's alarming to me how a 14,000 vote swing occurs. Nintendo is definitely a more fearsome competitor than it was in '04 (No way does Zelda win the Series Contest if it takes place in 2004), and I can easily envision CT and Mario 64 duking it out in the low 20%'s in Round 3. --- ~Jacksonville Jaguars~ |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 3/25/2009 1:46:25 PM | message detail |
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More Mario 64 overestimation... to the tune of taking it over Chrono Trigger? Be my guest! (hint Nintendo's weaker now than it's been at any time since 2004 hint hint) --- turnturnturn your brain in turnturnturn your brain in |
| Meeks54 | Posted 3/25/2009 1:47:12 PM | message detail |
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From: plasmabeam | #373 The Nintendo boost is greatly over exaggerated. It was really the Mario/Smash Bros boost. It was not like everything Nintendo went up, look at Link and Samus for instance, the 2 strongest Nintendo characters, no movement at all. More importantly what did happen during the Nintendo "boost" was that Square absolutely plummeted. Square is now looking up again, and Mario was nearly beat by Zack and X, and of course all the useless Smash characters went down. The Mario boost is now very much over (not that even during his peak could 64 have taken Trigger) and Square has boosted again in the last year....FF VII>CT. Done. --- Gunner is, what is the word... passionate. but i think that MichaelWClark dude is far crazier than anything Gunner has posted. Posted by Mark Milton |
| HaRRicH | Posted 3/25/2009 2:11:34 PM | message detail |
| Yeah, FF7 > SM64 doesn't stand a shot with
Goldeneye there. Without it, eh...I wouldn't bank on it, but you have
to find a reasonable way to keep GE out of that match first, and that's
not happening. The best case scenario there would be for GE and MK64 to
LFF and RE2 survives them both despite FF7 potentially absorbing it
(hey, FF7 crushed MGS and MGS crushed RE...who knows since they were
both PS1-hits). Without that happening, SM64 doesn't have a chance at
the upset. A interesting yet equally unlikely alternative might be the idea of GE upsetting CT if C:SotN upsets SM64, making it FF7/CT/GE/C:SotN. For C:SotN to do that, it would have to hope EB/SMW2:YI hurts SM64 decently and CT's SNES/DS-affiliation makes C:SotN stand out enough to benefit. Another positive would be C:SotN's great performance in the Top 100 List (#15 pre-XLA port compared to SM64's #13 post-SM64DS). Unfortunately for C:SotN, however, it was beaten 59-41 by GE in 2004 and SM64 ~= GE, so there is still a gap to be crossed; that's probably more than you can ast CT and EB/SMW2:YI to help out with. That's also neverminding Alucard's fall from grace in recent years. Still, its Top 100 List supports the idea of a nice hardcore following. That could help in this format. Either way, I don't think it's likely for GE/SM64 to be avoided during FF7/CT's first meeting, so I don't think well of FF7 > SM64/GE > CT. That said, I would like GE's chances more than SM64's of getting that kind of opportunity. C:SotN > RE2 and SM64's in more of a position to be hurt by LFF, plus GE's shown more signs of being stronger here than SM64 (though that's not the popular pick between them). I think GE's got a better shot by both strength and position. --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
| HaRRicH | Posted 3/25/2009 2:18:11 PM | message detail |
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Well, on second thought, though GE will beat MK64 down, it won't be
like how SM64 will kill EB/SMW2:YI...so take back my point about GE
avoiding more LFF than SM64 (even if CT somehow affected it much). I
still feel better about GE's chances than SM64's. --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/25/2009 2:30:54 PM | message detail |
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From: plasmabeam | Posted: 3/25/2009 3:20:51 PM | #362 I struggled with this match for a little while too. The problem there is you're asking Mario 64 to be as strong or stronger than Link to the Past, which I'm not buying. Even an SFFd Chrono Trigger is stronger than LTTP. There's also the fact that Mario 64 will get leeched a little bit by Goldeneye in that match, which should be enough to get CT over the top. Remember, CT will likely get a small boost from the DS port. --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Diablo 2, Lunar: SSSC |
| creativename | Posted 3/25/2009 2:45:58 PM | message detail |
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Wait. So let me get this straight: SMB3 > SMW > FF4 > SFII? Honestly? Yeah...this is apparently the favored outcome or something, but I think it's borderline ridiculous. The notion of SMW beating out FF4 with SMB3 in the poll sounds almost absurd to me. SMW vs. FF4 would likely be pretty close without any LFF. And SMB3/SMW is going to be a big split. FF7 and CT probably share a good enough amount of fanbase despite the fact that CT won't be SFFed. Also there's the possibility that CT resisted SFF due to it being the finals, which may have happened with the first Cloud/Sephiroth matchup. I don't think CT will lose to SM64, especially with Goldeneye present, but it's possible. Also I just realized that this match pits 4 of my all-time absolute fave and most-beloved games against each other...damn! --- Save_Us.RAT BREAK THE BLOCK DOWN |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/25/2009 2:46:24 PM | message detail |
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Even an SFFd Chrono Trigger is stronger than LTTP. lol wut --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| creativename | Posted 3/25/2009 2:47:21 PM | message detail |
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Even an SFFd Chrono Trigger is stronger than LTTP What? I wouldn't be so confident in Chrono Trigger beating LttP heads-up, let alone with any sort of fanbase split, even a mild one. --- Save_Us.RAT BREAK THE BLOCK DOWN |
| red sox 777 | Posted 3/25/2009 2:53:53 PM | message detail |
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Even an SFFd Chrono Trigger is stronger than LTTP. So I should take CT to the finals? I so want to believe this. --- Hobbes: What's the point of attaching a number to everything you do? Calvin: If your numbers go up, it means you're having more fun. |
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| greatone10 | Posted 3/25/2009 3:23:20 PM | message detail |
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An SFFed Chrono Trigger would definitely not beat Link to the Past.
Chrono barely got the job done in 2004, and that was back when Crono
was in the upper tier of the Noble Nine and the same year he blew out
Mario. I would take Link to the Past in a 1vs1 match today and not look
back. --- Donkey Kong Country 2's path to Best Game Ever '09. vs. Super Mario RPG, Goldeneye, Resident Evil 2. Ugh, my top 3 games in the same match. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/25/2009 4:34:55 PM | message detail |
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I'd consider taking CT simply because of CT:DS, but it would be a close
match that would become an absolute blowout if you threw FF7 in there. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/25/2009 4:40:12 PM | message detail |
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the Sonic 3/Super Metroid/Doom match really got me thinking. I can see all three taking it. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/25/2009 5:11:40 PM | message detail |
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I can't see Doom taking it. The game is just so dated now, it's
basically just got the "Pac-Man" factor going for it, and that crumbles
away against Sonic/Metroid --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/25/2009 5:23:39 PM | message detail |
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And I can't trust Super Metroid to NOT get destroyed again, seeing as LttP will be in the match. --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
| plasmabeam | Posted 3/25/2009 5:25:29 PM | message detail |
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I can't see Super Metroid advancing. Don't forget that LttP will
mercilessly clobber it. I like Sonic taking 2nd in that one, but Doom
advancing is suddenly a sexy upset pick. If SMW was in LttP's place
(thus causing Platformer SFF), I'd say Doom was a lock for second. But
I think Sonic's Sega/Platformer status should make it stand out enough. Just some rambling thoughts on intriguing matches that no one's talking about (as far as I know): FFX vs. MGS2 vs. GTA:VC/KH vs. Prime First of all, Prime could **** the bed in Round 1, but if it advances, it's guaranteed at least 2nd in Round 2. More interestingly, there's a (slim) chance of FFX dropping out in Round 2. Kingdom Hearts has to advance and give us a nice rSFF showing, but it's at least somewhat possible. Standing alone, I'd say that MGS2 and Prime are about equal. If KH were to manage about 15% or so, we'd have ourselves a ballgame between FFX and MGS2. Off chance, but still something worth glancing at. GTA3/Halo/D2 vs. SSBM vs. WW SSBM is obviously the boss of these five, but how it responds to WW will be interesting (possibly enough to drop Melee to 2nd in Round 2?). Diablo is a wild card, and the better of GTA3/Halo is a toss-up in both rounds. I like GTA3 to top Halo in Round 1, since the Xbox vote should trickle off slighty to KotoR and GTA. Round 2 is a different story, as (assuming D2 fails to advance) GTA3 and Halo should be having a PS2/Xbox style slugfest, but you have to wonder if Halo-minus-online-multiplayer can force its way past GTA3. Of course, Halo's current reputation as an online game could benefit its first installment. Once again, I like GTA3 with a side of caution, and for all that I know Diablo could be standing alongside Melee at Round 2's conclusion. --- ~Jacksonville Jaguars~ |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/25/2009 5:25:51 PM | message detail |
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One thing RPGuy pointed out that was pretty significant was that Super
Metroid did about as well as Doom against a stronger game. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/25/2009 5:27:31 PM | message detail |
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Different format. Standout factor will help Doom. We've seen it before.
Seriously, I don't know how many (any?) other same era games can stand
out more than Doom in its scenario. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/8zkzm1.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 3/25/2009 5:28:15 PM | message detail |
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I have Doom advancing, but I also have SMK there instead of Sonic 3. --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/25/2009 5:29:00 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, I used to have SMK, but if I did have it again, I'd take Doom already. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/25/2009 5:29:38 PM | message detail |
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Also, I've completely let go of any ancient logic that gives Sonic a
fanbase outside of Nintendo. He and his games are 100% Nintendo now.
It's done. I'll be FLUBBERGASTED (kinda like being flabbergasted and
bouncing off the walls at the same time) if his game finishes ahead of
Super Metroid in that match. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/8zkzm1.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/25/2009 5:30:27 PM | message detail |
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And yeah, I don't even have it out of the first round (forgive me; I haven't looked at the bracket in weeks). --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/8zkzm1.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 3/25/2009 5:31:01 PM | message detail |
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Oh come on, Sonic isn't THAT http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3245 --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
| trannyscience | Posted 3/25/2009 5:42:59 PM | message detail |
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pfft, Super Metroid advancing is my pipe dream, not RPGuy's! Doom looks like the smart pick there. I guess you can make a case for Sonic but Doom just feels better. --- xyzzy http://i42.tinypic.com/2vbwhn4.jpg |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/25/2009 5:49:24 PM | message detail |
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I meant in 2K4 CT was stronger than LTTP, sorry. I honestly have no
clue where that match would go now. Nintendo is not as strong as it
used to be, and who knows what effect the CT port has. --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Diablo 2, Lunar: SSSC |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/25/2009 9:12:20 PM | message detail |
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That still doesn't make sense. CT and LttP were for all intents and purposes equal in 2004. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 3/25/2009 9:41:40 PM | message detail |
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