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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 659
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 3/22/2009 2:59:05 PM | message detail |
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i think OoT isnt the best zelda game so by that logic, it won't be the strongest zelda game flawless logic --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://thegamerscafe.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/civrev_nycc_hands-on-main.jpg |
| TheSaviorEC | Posted 3/22/2009 3:03:38 PM | message detail |
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So has bracket lock down actually been announced? Usually the best part
of contests is the bracket phase, but I just don't care enough (or know
enough), to actually argue about it, or to try and examine matches from
as many angles as possible to come up with a final product. I'm just
rocking my first thoughts bracket and seeing how it does. --- all hail ec your lord and savior |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/22/2009 3:05:28 PM | message detail |
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Using the logic you just said about Brawl 'staying fresh' could make me take it over TP. I don't think it's reliable to tell you the truth. SMG > Brawl just feels like a gut thing and after seeing Brawl do terrible (yes, it did terrible). --- “Back in my day we used to actually play our videogames instead of watching them”- Vivi0198 |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 3/22/2009 3:06:58 PM | message detail |
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tbh I don't think Galaxy would be letting Fallout 3 take the lead over it during the night hours --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://thegamerscafe.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/civrev_nycc_hands-on-main.jpg |
| TheSaviorEC | Posted 3/22/2009 3:07:59 PM | message detail |
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As terrible as Brawl did I feel like there was absolutely nothing
special about SMG. Tons of hype beforehand due to crazy reviewer
scores, but as soon as it came out I felt like it was just "oh, ok."
I'm still pissed I haven't been able to play it (broken wii that I sold
to gamestop, and the wii sucks too much for me to buy another one). I
might get a Wii if the price drops p. significantly, but I'm not
expecting it anytime soon. --- all hail ec your lord and savior |
| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/22/2009 3:16:20 PM | message detail |
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As for DW3/Contra/LoZ/Metroid... Who ya got for second? Metroid's out
of it, so I'm personally thinking Contra, since Dragon Quest hasn't
really done anything in these polls, whereas Contra got 30% on Final
Fantasy. Though I feel that I might be overthinking here... --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 3/22/2009 3:17:21 PM | message detail |
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contra --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://thegamerscafe.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/civrev_nycc_hands-on-main.jpg |
| HaRRicH | Posted 3/22/2009 3:20:33 PM | message detail |
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I'm glad that you brought up the point of Galaxy being in Brawl's
shadow. That alone should be enough to swing voters who are on the
fence. That was hype, don't take it out of context. Do you think just because people anticipated SSBB more than SMG (and there was still a lot of people hyped for SMG, more than MGS4 at one time) means people who played both will favor SSBB more because of the hype? I would think their personal enjoyment with each game would matter lots more, and SMG's got far less flaws than SSBB. Who knows if that amounts to anything, but don't let the success of SSBM and the hype of SSBB fool you. SSBB won the GotY here by the smallest margin(s) to date and the runner-up was a PS3-exclusive. GTA4 and CoD4 each should tell you one's hype doesn't make your strength alone. Also, when you compare the awards each of them got, you could argue SSBB is really in SMG's shadow. Just a thought. The Wii hasn't been the same since, because Brawl was the last AAA Title to be released for the system. I'll concede that we're each right on this point. That said, SSBB fell short of its hype and SMG surpassed it. When they're in the same fanbase and we've seen them perform fairly equally up to this point, I'll take the one that exceeded expectations head-to-head against the one that failed to live up to them. SSBB's huge hype backfires against it in this regard, which is unfortunate because its expectations were absurd. Even still, it had flaws that could have been prevented (tripping really is ridiculous to program into a game). How about the fact that Brawl is fresher in people's minds due to its superior replay value? Most people won't touch Galaxy after they've finished the storyline or collected all the stars, while Brawl is the type of game that can be picked up and played at any time for 10 minutes or several hours. 1) They're each over a year old and SSBB is only about four months newer. Recency shouldn't be big here. 2) SSBB is the first multi-player game to win a GotY here, and it barely did so over two one-player games. On a site where LoZ, FF, SMB, and probably MGS are the top series here, I don't know how big of a perk the ability of being played at any time really is. There are exceptions like SSBM, but I'm not convinced SSBB is an exception. For whatever it's worth, I'm with you that SMG is no SM64 (SM64 is likely my favorite game ever though). That said, it's a legitimately damn good game. --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
| plasmabeam | Posted 3/22/2009 3:33:34 PM | message detail |
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So basically...you're discounting Galaxy because you don't like it. Not at all. I offered my opinion on Galaxy only because someone claimed that it was "universally loved." Even assuming that the vast majority of the people who played SMG enjoyed it to some extent, I would still put Brawl over Galaxy when they meet. Brawl is simply more popular and replay friendly, and I'm willing to be that a hefty portion of Wii owners haven't touched Galaxy since Brawl came out. Also, I guarantee you that the match picture will end up swinging Nintendo voters (Flying Mario vs. Mario and 4 or 5 other Nintendo posterboys). --- ~Jacksonville Jaguars~ |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 3/22/2009 3:34:52 PM | message detail |
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You're being too specific. Every game has its detractors, but
universally loved means that it doesn't have enough vocal detractors to
make it mixed (like brawl or gta4). In general, Galaxy is loved. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://thegamerscafe.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/civrev_nycc_hands-on-main.jpg |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 3/22/2009 3:38:00 PM | message detail |
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/wii/home/928518.html http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/wii/home/915692.html Brawl has a higher playership rate, but among those who've played it I would say Galaxy trumps it easily. --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 3/22/2009 3:39:57 PM | message detail |
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Plus don't forget that the "Brawl boost" alot of nintendo characters
were supposed to get was pretty much non existant. Galaxy easily beats
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| XxSoulxX | Posted 3/22/2009 3:46:23 PM | message detail |
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I will say this about the whole Brawl/Galaxy debate. Most won't agree with me, but whatever. I still go to friends houses to play Brawl. Around my general group of friends, and for just about anyone who is not seriously into the SSB series (like a lot of B8), Brawl is still a great game and possibly the best on the Wii. The hardcore Smash Bros. fans were split on it because of reasons already posted, but casual players still love the **** out of it. Brawl should have no problem with Galaxy. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 3/22/2009 3:47:28 PM | message detail |
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Thing is, at my school people are split. 2/5 prefer Melee, 2/5 prefer Brawl, and 1/5 prefer the original. --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/22/2009 3:47:30 PM | message detail |
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Just like it had no problem with MGS4 and Fallout 3. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 3/22/2009 3:49:45 PM | message detail |
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From: XxSoulxX | #063 Brawl would likely have no problem if the poll was only open to your group of friends But its not. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://thegamerscafe.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/civrev_nycc_hands-on-main.jpg |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 3/22/2009 3:52:21 PM | message detail |
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Thing is, at my school people are split. 2/5 prefer Melee, 2/5 prefer Brawl, and 1/5 prefer the original. How many of those actually dislike Brawl though? Better yet, how many would prefer Galaxy over Brawl? --- ertyu is actually a language. For example, 'dum' is ertyunese for 'godly'. - Topaz Kitsune Believe it or not, the Internet is serious business - Biolizard28 |
| plasmabeam | Posted 3/22/2009 4:05:36 PM | message detail |
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Brawl has a higher playership rate, but among those who've played it I would say Galaxy trumps it easily. Higher playership rate only helps Brawl. The Wii voters who have only played Brawl will vote for it. Here's another thing to consider: What about voters who don't own a Wii (and thus don't own either game)? Which one of those two games do you think gets more exposure to non-Wii Owners at a friend's house or in college dorms? Has to be Brawl. --- ~Jacksonville Jaguars~ |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 3/22/2009 4:08:07 PM | message detail |
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That's a good point. Brawl isn't no Halo 3 or Guitar Hero, but it's still pretty popular amongst college students. --- ertyu is actually a language. For example, 'dum' is ertyunese for 'godly'. - Topaz Kitsune Believe it or not, the Internet is serious business - Biolizard28 |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 3/22/2009 4:08:36 PM | message detail |
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What about voters who don't own a Wii (and thus don't own either game)? Call of Duty 4. --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 3/22/2009 4:09:47 PM | message detail |
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And really, notoriety isn't going to help much. Brawl was easily the most well-known game in the GotY polls and it did better as more games were removed. --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/22/2009 4:09:54 PM | message detail |
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Higher playership rate only helps Brawl. sure did against MGS4. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| voltch | Posted 3/22/2009 4:09:54 PM | message detail |
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CoD 4 might be getting overestimated now,i'm sure it's strong but it's the kind of game i can see getting steadily weaker. --- Pearl FC:3953 0978 7217 |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 3/22/2009 4:09:55 PM | message detail |
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wouldn't FPS games like Call of Duty/Halo be bigger in colleges? and if we're talking playership rates... Super Mario Galaxy: 7.91 Million Sold Super Smash Bros Brawl: 8.44 Million Sold its really not a factor --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://thegamerscafe.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/civrev_nycc_hands-on-main.jpg |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 3/22/2009 4:14:59 PM | message detail |
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wouldn't FPS games like Call of Duty/Halo be bigger in colleges? Yes, and that's what I meant from my other post (I just now realized the double negative, my bad). --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| SonicRaptor | Posted 3/22/2009 4:21:25 PM | message detail |
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From: voltch | #073 Yeah, it only gets out of Round 1 because Pokemon will be SFF'd by Mario Galaxy but past that, I can't see it happening. TF2 is popular, I agree, but CoD4 is several magnitudes more. --- Today's Subliminal Thought Is: |
| ZFS | Posted 3/22/2009 4:23:00 PM | message detail |
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My friend's mom played Mario Galaxy watch out Brawl --- http://www.mistwalkercorp.com/en/_src/sc569/HNI_0022.jpg |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 3/22/2009 4:24:16 PM | message detail |
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TF2 has no shot against CoD4. It's pretty much PC game (TF2) Vs. PC and Xbox 360 game (COD4). (yes, TF2 is out on the 360 as well but it's almost unplayable) --- ertyu is actually a language. For example, 'dum' is ertyunese for 'godly'. - Topaz Kitsune Believe it or not, the Internet is serious business - Biolizard28 |
| SonicRaptor | Posted 3/22/2009 6:52:46 PM | message detail |
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CoD4 as well was a much, much bigger success than TF2 was and has that going for it. --- Today's Subliminal Thought Is: |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/22/2009 11:12:20 PM | message detail |
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Super Mario Galaxy is easily the strongest game in the poll; it advances regardless. So that leaves us with CoD4, D/P, and TF2. I can't understand all this confidence in Mario Galaxy. The only "evidence" putting it over Brawl is 2 polls, one taken at the height of Wii popularity and the other at the height of Wii backlash. Mario Galaxy was the only option for Nintendrones when they were at their most numerous. Now that Nintendo has basically shifted into the "casual" market and nobody likes the Wii any more, it makes sense that Brawl does worse in comparison to games from the other 2 consoles, but Brawl is still the hardcore favourite on the Wii and it's mind boggling to consider it losing to a Mario game that has completely fallen off the map. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/22/2009 11:13:32 PM | message detail |
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And on top of that, SMG was helped by being the most recent game in its
GotY poll, while Brawl came out 6 months before its competition and
STILL came first. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 3/22/2009 11:58:06 PM | message detail |
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Timing isn't everything -- RE4, GTA:SA, and LoZ:WW were able to win GotY-awards despite not having the best timing for releases. --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
| voltch | Posted 3/23/2009 12:01:14 AM | message detail |
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how many votes did the SSB series get when it lost to SMB? just want to see if in raw numbers it pulled a number too high for CoD4 to reach. --- Pearl FC:3953 0978 7217 |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/23/2009 12:04:48 AM | message detail |
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I'm stunned people actually think Brawl could beat Galaxy 1v1. This is
basically what you're arguing about, right? Galaxy would crush that
piece of ****. --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Diablo 2, Lunar: SSSC |
| BesaidGuy | Posted 3/23/2009 1:35:13 AM | message detail |
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I'm picking Galaxy and TP simply because when it comes down to games we have no idea how to aptly judge the Zelda and Mario names will carry I think that's what most people are thinking as well --- Trans is clearly a Mario fanboy-MichaelWClark |
| Masato_Tanaka | Posted 3/23/2009 1:47:20 AM | message detail |
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I'm stunned people actually think Brawl could beat Galaxy 1v1. This
is basically what you're arguing about, right? Galaxy would crush that
piece of ****. Prolly the worst post Ulti's ever made right here folks >_> --- The Straight Up G The Palace of Wisdom Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 3/23/2009 1:49:29 AM | message detail |
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I'd definitely peg Brawl to lose. Mainly because I wouldn't take MGS4 over Galaxy --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
| red sox 777 | Posted 3/23/2009 4:49:43 AM | message detail |
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I just can't get past that poll (pre-release) where Brawl smashed
Galaxy by quadrupling it. Yeah, that was purely about hype, but....it's
a quadrupling. Why not MGS4 > Galaxy, by the way? MGS can beat SM64, and MGS2/3 can beat Sunshine, so Galaxy doesn't have this match simply because it's from a stronger series. --- Hobbes: What's the point of attaching a number to everything you do? Calvin: If your numbers go up, it means you're having more fun. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 3/23/2009 5:02:01 AM | message detail |
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Why not MGS4 > Galaxy, by the way? MGS can beat SM64 Not that I don't agree with that assessment, but that's a very lonely pick when talking about the board as a whole (I don't know why, no game has disappointed repeatedly to our expectations more than SM64). --- turnturnturn your brain in turnturnturn your brain in |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/23/2009 6:40:43 AM | message detail |
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Well, I have CoD4 > Galaxy in round 1, then SSBB > MGS4 over CoD4
in the division finals, so I guess MGS4 > Galaxy in my book. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| charmander6000 | Posted 3/23/2009 7:21:13 AM | message detail |
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(I don't know why, no game has disappointed repeatedly to our expectations more than SM64). When has Super Mario 64 disappoint besides against OoT? --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls Submit BOP here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=48529509 |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/23/2009 7:35:35 AM | message detail |
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Why not MGS4 > Galaxy, by the way? MGS can beat SM64, and MGS2/3
can beat Sunshine, so Galaxy doesn't have this match simply because
it's from a stronger series. This is silly logic. I'm not saying you're wrong but .. come on. You can't possibly use Sunshine to gauge Galaxy. Mario Galaxy was the only option for Nintendrones when they were at their most numerous. Aren't you forgetting the century poll? They could have easily voted for TP or any other Nintendo game in that poll. Now that Nintendo has basically shifted into the "casual" market and nobody likes the Wii any more Yeah not liking the Wii anymore means you don't like Galaxy. Mario game that has completely fallen off the map. Yes, it fell off the map because Board 8 doesn't talk about a Mario game. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/23/2009 8:27:23 AM | message detail |
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Wii hierarchy goes SSBB > Twilight Princess > SMG > everything else --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/23/2009 8:32:01 AM | message detail |
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And do you have any evidence of it? --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/23/2009 10:19:14 AM | message detail |
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Only common sense. The only reason people are considering SMG >
Brawl is because of Ulti's nerdraging over Brawl taking a more casual,
non-competitive approach to Smash. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/23/2009 10:31:44 AM | message detail |
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"Common sense" doesn't work on gamefaqs. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| red sox 777 | Posted 3/23/2009 10:31:48 AM | message detail |
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Brawl is awful, yes, but it does have fans still (like the half of
Board 8 that still prefers it to Melee; I know B8 is basically the
epicenter of Brawl support, but it's not a generally hated game), and
it started with an incredible amount of hype. As in, #3 game level
hype. When you start off that high, you can fall a long way and still
have decent strength. This is silly logic. I'm not saying you're wrong but .. come on. You can't possibly use Sunshine to gauge Galaxy. I wasn't trying to gauge Galaxy off of Sunshine....just saying that merely being a Mario game doesn't mean much, since the primary argument I've seen for Galaxy > MGS4 is Mario > Metal Gear. --- Hobbes: What's the point of attaching a number to everything you do? Calvin: If your numbers go up, it means you're having more fun. |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 3/23/2009 10:31:50 AM | message detail |
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turtle makes me giggle --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://thegamerscafe.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/civrev_nycc_hands-on-main.jpg |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/23/2009 10:46:01 AM | message detail |
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Brawl is awful, yes, but it does have fans still (like the half of
Board 8 that still prefers it to Melee; I know B8 is basically the
epicenter of Brawl support, but it's not a generally hated game), and
it started with an incredible amount of hype. As in, #3 game level
hype. When you start off that high, you can fall a long way and still
have decent strength. I'd actually argue that Board 8 would be more divided while the majority of the general population would support Brawl. The ONLY complaints against Brawl come from a tourney*** perspective. Normal people have no problem with the game and see it as bigger, better and flashier than Melee. I find it hard to believe that there are more than 10% of people that visit this site that are competitive Smash players. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/23/2009 10:51:30 AM | message detail |
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Ulti, how about we have an account bet on Galaxy/Brawl. That's how sure I am. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
