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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 658
voltch | Posted 3/18/2009 4:25:25 PM | message detail |
no way in hell does patrick stewart overcome SA,star trek/X-men/theatre people aren't all over gamefaqs,oblivion's going down! --- Pearl FC:3953 0978 7217 |
HaRRicH | Posted 3/18/2009 4:35:13 PM | message detail |
Samuel L. Jackson > Patrick Stewart! http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1988 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1996 --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
SonicRaptor | Posted 3/18/2009 5:09:41 PM | message detail |
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SonicRaptor | Posted 3/18/2009 5:11:58 PM | message detail |
From: MarioSuperstar | #250 No way, GTA:SA is by far the most popular and well-liked one in the GTA series and if there is any strength to the GTA name...SA will be the test. Even the most jaded of gamers tend to think something positive about SA. Elder Scrolls is a popular series, but Oblivion is kind of the black sheep in the series (most people who I know play it admit they mod the hell out of it). I don't think it'll muster a lot of strength. --- Today's Subliminal Thought Is: |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/18/2009 5:50:27 PM | message detail |
Well how do you figure GTA would do against Oblivion 1 vs 1? It surely wouldn't blow it away (.. if it wins). But if it splits with GoW AT ALL (which is a good possibility considering they are two casual heavy PS2 hits), Oblivion wins it easily if it would even have a close match with GTA. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
HaRRicH | Posted 3/18/2009 5:51:06 PM | message detail |
How do you mean blacksheep there? I understood it to easily be the most popular TES game and generally respected. --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/18/2009 5:53:12 PM | message detail |
Fun fact: Oblivion was made by the same people as Fallout 3. It got around the same review scores, and I'm fairly certain it sold more. So...no real reason to not respect it at least a little bit. --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
RPGuy96 | Posted 3/18/2009 5:56:15 PM | message detail |
I think you're looking a little too hard for LFF. Remember that when
CT, CC, Gears 2, MM9, P4, WoW were removed from the GotY poll it was
Brawl that benefited the most, despite not being the least bit related
to any of these (sans maybe MM9, which was in last). I don't think
"casual PS2 game" is going to mean much in the way of LFF when GTA and
GoW are so very different. --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
ZFS | Posted 3/18/2009 5:56:55 PM | message detail |
The difference between Fallout 3 and Oblivion is that one has already
proven itself. Oblivion's got some decent polls going for it, but
nothing like F3. I think it's a good bet for second, but San Andreas is
more than likely well out of its league. --- http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/3151/hadoukend.gif |
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/18/2009 5:57:58 PM | message detail |
Oh, wait, Oblivion vs. SA? I thought we had gone back to GoW. Yeah, Oblivion has no shot. >_> --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
HaRRicH | Posted 3/18/2009 6:15:07 PM | message detail |
I definitely respect Oblivion, but it's not on FO3's level. It lost to
Gears and KH2 in 2006 (though it got the PS3-port in 2007): http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2629 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2384 I don't think that's going to be enough to beat GTA:SA without GTA:SA dropping a lot. That said, that does put Oblivion closer to GoW than I originally thought. Hmmm...still taking GoW, but Oblivion is a hot pick there. --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/18/2009 6:36:32 PM | message detail |
I'm not understanding this confidence in Oblivion. I took GTA > GoW
without hesitation. Can someone explain to me why it is favoured to
advance, and being considered to beat GTA? --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
paulg235 | Posted 3/18/2009 6:50:30 PM | message detail |
And now for something completely differently. I've just completed the most suprising results lists (Both R1 and 2008). I'll get this up on the B8Wiki soon. ------------------------------------------------------------- Most Suprising Results Of Round 1 ------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Sandbag - 33.03% vs Sonic, Magus, Shepard 2. Hogger - 35.55% vs Dante, Ramza, Laharl 3. Arthas Menthil - 37.86% vs Pikachu, Ike, Spy 4. Cube - 38.04% vs Tidus, Donkey Kong, Tails 5. Zidane Tribal - 38.26% vs Link, Shadow, Luke 6. Nero - 39.01% vs Mega Man, Banjo, Olimar 7. Jill Valentine - 44.98% vs Kratos, Ocelot, Heavy 8. Ammaterasu - 45.83% vs Crono, Frank West, Kaim 9. Marth - 48.92% vs Duke, Niko, Kefka 10. Vivi - 49.67% vs Snake, Wesker, Sackboy ------------------------------------------------------------ Most Suprising Results Of 2008 ------------------------------------------------------------ 1. Mewtwo (R3) - 03.60% vs Cloud, Squall, Sora 2. Kirby (R4) - 06.38% vs Sephiroth, Sonic, Dante 3. Crono (R5) - 09.44% vs Link, Mario, Samus 4. Snake (R6) - 10.14% vs Link, Cloud, Crono 5. Zack Fair (R3) - 13.36% vs Link, Duke, Altair 6. Mega Man X (R3) - 16.90% vs Mario, Liquid, Luigi 7. Cube (R3) - 21.14% vs Snake, Mega Man, Zero 8. Mewtwo (R2) - 22.44% vs Cloud, Midna, Pac-Man 9. Snake (R5) - 23.37% vs Cloud, Kirby, Sephiroth 10. Kirby (R3) - 23.58% vs Dante, Master Chief, Leon 11. Crono (R4) - 23.61% vs Samus, Vincent, Pikachu 12. Pikachu (R3) - 25.27% vs Crono, L-Block, Alucard 13. Zero (R2) - 27.05% vs Snake, Vivi, Ryu Hayabusa 14. Cube (R2) - 28.37% vs Mega Man, Tidus, Nero 15. Duke Nukem (R2) - 29.07% vs Altair, Marth, Lucario 16. Zack Fair (R2) - 29.59% vs Link, Zidane, Wario 17. Gordon Freeman (R2) - 32.69% vs Vincent, Scorpion, Falco 18. Sandbag (R1) - 33.03% vs Sonic, Magus, Shepard 19. Vincent (R3) - 34.44% vs Samus, Gordon Freeman, Ganondorf 20. Hogger (R1) - 35.55% vs Dante, Ramza, Laharl 21. Altair (R2) - 36.24% vs Duke, Marth, Lucario 22. Alucard (R2) - 37.39% vs Pikachu, Arthas, Falcon 23. Arthas Menthil (R1) - 37.86% vs Pikachu, Ike, Spy 24. Cube (R1) - 38.04% vs Tidus, Donkey Kong, Tails 25. Dante (R3) - 38.15% vs Kirby, Master Chief, Leon --- The Gamer In Me |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/18/2009 7:28:48 PM | message detail |
From: RPGuy96 | #258 This might be due to MGS4's hardcore fanbase more than Brawl's relation. Though we'll never truly know. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/18/2009 7:29:51 PM | message detail |
From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #262 We've told you over and over but you refused to listen about GoW's poll history. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/18/2009 7:38:02 PM | message detail |
Yet you still have yet to show anything that Oblivion can take advantage of this supposed weakness. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/18/2009 7:50:43 PM | message detail |
I'd think getting with 5% of Kingdom Hearts II is a lot better than..
well, being 2% within an SFF'd handheld game and getting obliterated by
RE4. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
SonicRaptor | Posted 3/18/2009 8:05:44 PM | message detail |
From: HaRRicH | #256 I don't know, maybe it's the gaming forums I frequent, but I just know Oblivion is notorious for the amount of mods it has (usually made to overcome perceived faults in the game). I just tend to hear more nitpicks about it than compliments so I factored that in when I made my "black sheep" claim. It's not a hated game, it sold very well and I'm sure many have heard of Oblivion before the three TES games that came before it. That said, GTA:SA is by far the strongest GTA game in terms of sales, reviews and most importantly fanbase support (did you know that GTA:SA was one of the Top 10 most pirated games last year?). Oblivion will put up a good fight, but it won't beat SA. --- Today's Subliminal Thought Is: |
HaRRicH | Posted 3/18/2009 10:13:44 PM | message detail |
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HaRRicH | Posted 3/18/2009 10:22:32 PM | message detail |
Here are probably the best polls to judge GoW/Oblivion by: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2254 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2995 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2630 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2629 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2622 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2384 I don think the "within 5% of KH2 > within 2% of SFF'd MKDS" argument is fair to GoW when you consider LoZ:TP likely beats RE4 nicely and Oblivion wasn't that close to KH2 or Gears...and it's hard to imagine a RE-game on the Gamecube and PS2 SFF'ing a MK-game on the DS very much. --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/18/2009 10:45:36 PM | message detail |
See what you started, KP? --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Diablo 2, Lunar: SSSC |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 3/18/2009 10:52:07 PM | message detail |
1. Sandbag - 33.03% vs Sonic, Magus, Shepard 2. Hogger - 35.55% vs Dante, Ramza, Laharl 3. Arthas Menthil - 37.86% vs Pikachu, Ike, Spy aww yea Blizzard underestimation --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/oops.jpg |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/19/2009 5:38:04 AM | message detail |
Chrono Trigger Earthbound Lufia II Yoshi's Island Three SNES RPGs and a Mario game. Which game stands out to you? And we can't be bringing up those VC polls, or you have to start taking polls like these seriously: Poll 2762 (05/25/07) Which non-Nintendo character would you most like to see appear in Super Smash Bros. Brawl? 24284 22.98% Cloud Strife 11523 10.90% Crono 7938 7.51% Dante 9846 9.32% Master Chief 19202 18.17% Mega Man 3975 3.76% Ryu Hayabusa 24173 22.88% Sonic the Hedgehog 4729 4.48% Sub-Zero TOTAL VOTES: 105670 --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 3/19/2009 10:14:09 AM | message detail |
When is this contest starting --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/oops.jpg |
charmander6000 | Posted 3/19/2009 11:44:01 AM | message detail |
I'm assuming April 3rd. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls Submit BOP here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=48529509 |
Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 3/19/2009 12:43:22 PM | message detail |
2. Kirby (R4) - 06.38% vs Sephiroth, Sonic, Dante Holy crap, Kirby beat Sonic? |
paulg235 | Posted 3/19/2009 12:48:41 PM | message detail |
No Kirby won outright by coming 1st with Sephiroth underperforming like mad. --- The Gamer In Me |
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/19/2009 12:50:31 PM | message detail |
I started people considering the right choice! --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/19/2009 1:41:51 PM | message detail |
Sonic just sucks that much in this format. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
HaRRicH | Posted 3/19/2009 2:47:59 PM | message detail |
Sonic is the only Noble Niner to have lost twice to non-NN's in the
same contest, and his loss to Auron was probably the most expected
successful non-NN > NN upset we've seen to date. That was after
his debut in last year's GotY-winner. Knuckles, Shadow, and Tails each
bombed harder than most people expected, too. In fact, since the change
to four-ways, the only impressive moment Sonic Team has had was when
Sonic destroyed Subby/Gordon/Duke right after being announced for SSBB
(which probably saved him against Squall twice). I do agree the format sucks for Sonic-n-gang, but at this point, it's more than that. All of the characters are in a downward spiral, and the only thing they can really hope for is that their games have held up better than they have (well, it's not like Shadow matters much regarding how the Sonic games do this contest). --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/19/2009 3:07:05 PM | message detail |
Makes the Sonic 3 match even harder for me. I could still bank for the Mario Kart upset though. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/19/2009 3:20:31 PM | message detail |
Knuckles, Shadow, and Tails each bombed harder than most people expected, too. To be fair, Tails was probably the weakest in his fourpack. --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/19/2009 3:22:22 PM | message detail |
I think Tails did fine for his fourpack. DK was the one who blew chunks there. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/19/2009 3:25:26 PM | message detail |
What about The Boss? --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/19/2009 3:26:47 PM | message detail |
Eh, Tails probably shouldn't have lost that one, but The Boss isn't
super weak or anything. Tails has always been right around the fodder
line or so. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
HaRRicH | Posted 3/19/2009 3:26:51 PM | message detail |
Tails was the weakest, yes, but I did expect better. Then again, Tails
did lose to The Boss the year before, so I should have known
better...point taken. Still, the rest easily failed expectations. --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/19/2009 3:51:54 PM | message detail |
I can't really see how Sonic's downward spiral would affect Sonic 3's
matches. Sonic 3 happened long before the jump to 3D, which is IMO what
really damned him. People are now losing hope of there ever being another good Sonic game, whereas in years past, there still was a spark there. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
voltch | Posted 3/19/2009 4:07:39 PM | message detail |
at this rate are new sonic games maintaining the hedghog's power or dimishing it? --- Pearl FC:3953 0978 7217 |
SonicRaptor | Posted 3/19/2009 4:32:28 PM | message detail |
From: voltch | #288 Well, I don't think Sonic is getting any stronger and really has nowhere to go but down if his games keep sucking. Though in this contest it's all classic Genesis Sonic games, the one part of the Sega mascot's history that everyone thinks highly of. --- Today's Subliminal Thought Is: |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/19/2009 9:23:26 PM | message detail |
If he wasn't getting crappy games at a constant rate, he would be
slowly stagnating like Crono over the years as opposed to nosediving a
little further every year since the next gen consoles came out. 2007
marked a huge decrease in Sonic after that abortion of a Sonic game
Sonic Next-gen came out, and it was further destroyed last year. This
year, after Unleashed, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets beaten by
even weaker NN characters. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/19/2009 9:23:37 PM | message detail |
Non-NN that is --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/19/2009 9:27:29 PM | message detail |
Gotta agree with BT. It's taken a while, but people are finally fed up
with Sonic's consistently crappy output. Another game like Sonic 2006
and he'll be losing handily to people below Auron, I think. --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
Lopen | Posted 3/19/2009 9:33:31 PM | message detail |
Hmmm, might be true. Though I kinda just think Crono just has more
staying power in general, being from an RPG and whatever. But certainly
a possibility, I guess. Dante > Sonic next year let's do this. --- 6% Next 2 Miles |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/19/2009 9:43:54 PM | message detail |
I Crono was the lead character in Chrono Cross, and 30 more Chrono
Cross-like games came out after that, he'd be nosediving too. If Mega
Man as we know him was the model used in the Battle Network games, he'd
be nosediving too. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/19/2009 9:51:29 PM | message detail |
With Board 8 making the pictures, I think Tifa > Sonic would be a
consensus pick in the Stats Topic and a damn popular one across the
board. While his SFF status assures Sonic he won't be losing to
Nintendo characters outside the big three, I'd pick no fewer than four
Square near-elites (Squall, Vincent, Auron, Tifa, and maybe Sora) to
drop his ass. If I'm feeling particularly daring, I may even take
universally liked badasses like Naked Snake, Dante, or even Leon to humiliate him. After the last couple of years, it's all a question of how many more eggs he can get on his face. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/8zkzm1.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/19/2009 9:57:15 PM | message detail |
And hell, Sonic might lose to Kirby 1v1 (it would be foolish of me to
write off the possibility, obviously), but it's hard to envision him
getting SFF-handled by the weaker Mario guys or Zelda/Ganon. Still,
2009 will be all about how early we take him to lose. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/8zkzm1.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/19/2009 10:33:55 PM | message detail |
Barring a miraculous comeback of some sort, I can see Sonic falling to
high-midcarder status in the next 2 or 3 years. I'd definitely take the
4 Square elites over him now, and maybe a few of the guys behind them
like Ganondorf/Dante/Luigi Also, Sora will be right up with the elite Square guys after Kingdom Hearts 3, book it. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/19/2009 10:38:32 PM | message detail |
Kingdom Hearts III... seems like some kind of cruel joke. KHII came out
exactly three years ago, and we haven't had so much as a word of news
or confirmation on III. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/8zkzm1.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
RPGGamer0 | Posted 3/20/2009 3:12:51 AM | message detail |
I'd bet my account on Sonic > Luigi. >_> --- |PM| Congrats to FastFalcon05 for winning the Guru contest. |
greatone10 | Posted 3/20/2009 5:34:10 AM | message detail |
The funny thing about Sonic is that he really only needs one
high-profile awesome game to regain his credibility. However, much like
Duke Nukem Forever, I'll believe it when it's on store shelves. --- Donkey Kong Country 2's path to Best Game Ever '09. vs. Super Mario RPG, Goldeneye, Resident Evil 2. Ugh, my top 3 games in the same match. |