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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 658

KamikazePotato | Posted 3/17/2009 7:08:14 PM | message detail
SMG has had consistently better poll showings so far, though.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/17/2009 7:10:02 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2988
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3355

Easiest direct comparisan: SMG does almost as good with much tougher competition.

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WarThaHedgehog | Posted 3/17/2009 7:13:38 PM | message detail
I'd take Mario Kart Wii over all of SMG's opponents, including a "HURR I'M A PORT"-weakened RE4.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/17/2009 7:15:24 PM | message detail
Aside from both of those polls reminding just how terrible the Wii library is (lol wii) there is no way to quantify the competition. Although one would think Mario Kart Wii beats everything else in the 2007 poll.

Take Galaxy if you want, but if there's one thing I'm sure about this contest it's Brawl beating Galaxy, and by a lot.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/17/2009 7:19:56 PM | message detail
If it does win it won't be a lot. MGS4 wouldn't beat Galaxy by a lot.

The only argument you have is your own personal opinion about the game and Brawl's hype. If that were the case, why did it do terrible? Forget MGS4 franchise voting; Fallout 3 simply would not beat CoD4 easily.

If Brawl was antivoted any at all, SMG is pretty much a gimme.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/17/2009 7:21:30 PM | message detail
The 2007 poll also released in the middle of NintendoFAQs while people have been turned off by Nintendo since shortly after Brawl came out. It makes sense that Nintendo doesn't perform as well in the 2008 polls.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/17/2009 7:22:17 PM | message detail
And the point is, that if that 2007 poll was run again this year, Mario Galaxy would not have done nearly as well.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/17/2009 7:22:38 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2994
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3364

CoD4 and Halo 3 probably split some, but...yeah. CoD4 vs. Fallout 3 is debatable.

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FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't.
HaRRicH | Posted 3/17/2009 7:23:06 PM | message detail
BT, want to sig-bet that? I don't do account-bets with quitters, but I'll put my sig on the line that SMG > SSBB in every match they have together (in case they somehow both advance to R3).
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Prototype
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trannyscience | Posted 3/17/2009 7:24:19 PM | message detail
I'd take both over COD4 - Brawl vs. Galaxy is one of those things where they'll split hard and if they both advance, they're screwed. if one goes down early, the other probably takes first in the division final. safe money is probably on Brawl but who knows.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/17/2009 7:26:14 PM | message detail
I've got CoD4 coming in 1st for the first two rounds simply because it's relatively close to Galaxy already and will be taking advantage of LFF.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/17/2009 7:26:45 PM | message detail
I'll sig bet.

I'll also bet CoD4 takes first in round 2 over Brawl.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/17/2009 7:28:29 PM | message detail
I've been debating CoD > SMG in round 1. On the one hand, that GotY poll is pretty damning, but on the other, Nintendo has really fallen since then, CoD has picked up a lot of steam as a series and CoD was likely being hurt by Halo 3 there.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/17/2009 7:28:40 PM | message detail

From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #156
It makes sense that Nintendo doesn't perform as well in the 2008 polls.


Fair point, but I don't think Galaxy is suddenly going to do bad because of this. You certainly wouldn't expect Twilight Princess to.

I believe Brawl's terrible showing is more about Brawl than the Wii or Nintendo themselves.
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HaRRicH | Posted 3/17/2009 7:28:45 PM | message detail
Oh yeah, I agree, CoD4 should take first place twice before respectfully bowing out -- it'll be fun to see it battle FO3 for third place in the Division Finals.


Alright, so it's official: if SSBB > SMG, BT gets my sig. If SMG > SSBB, I get BT's sig. I propose the loser keeps their sig changed until the Guru champion is decided. Any opposition?
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Prototype
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RPGuy96 | Posted 3/17/2009 7:29:00 PM | message detail
Two rounds? I think you're overestimating DP's effect on Galaxy.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2983

If it's 10% away from an incredibly minor Zelda title it's not doing anything to Galaxy.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/17/2009 7:29:59 PM | message detail
No opposition here!

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FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't.
MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/17/2009 7:30:24 PM | message detail
Watch him not even live up to it. We'll just have to remind him two things.
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HaRRicH | Posted 3/17/2009 7:32:28 PM | message detail
I also think Halo 3 hurt CoD4 though, plus I still doubt a recent Pokemon game will just roll over to most Nintendo games despite that poll. SMG can take first anyway in the first round, but I like CoD4 more there.
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Prototype
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/17/2009 7:33:42 PM | message detail
who's to say Team Fortress won't have an effect?
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HaRRicH | Posted 3/17/2009 7:34:14 PM | message detail
Every coward deserves a second chance to redeem himself.
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Prototype
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/17/2009 7:34:45 PM | message detail
The terms of the account bet were that if Zero advanced it wouldn't happen. Not sure why you're saying I quit it.
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Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/17/2009 7:35:10 PM | message detail
And in the 2 account bets I've lost in this topic I kept my word. What the hell are you on.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/17/2009 7:35:59 PM | message detail
let's not do this again
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HaRRicH | Posted 3/17/2009 7:36:14 PM | message detail
I'm talking about the other thing you said you'd close your account about. You're right about Zero (and very lucky, might I add).
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Prototype
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/17/2009 7:37:02 PM | message detail
Let's be fair. BT said that as a joke and I don't think it should be held against him.

There are many things we can hold against him, but not that.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 3/17/2009 7:37:52 PM | message detail
Have you forgot that you once brought up the idea that Mario might be fodder?
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HaRRicH | Posted 3/17/2009 7:38:25 PM | message detail
Eh...Kleenex is right. Make a topic if you want to continue this BT.


So, here's an unimportant match I've not heard opinions on: who do people think will take third between Goldeneye and Super Mario 64 in FF7/CT/GE/SM64?
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Prototype
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/17/2009 7:39:41 PM | message detail
Kneejerk reaction is Goldeneye, but who knows.

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trannyscience | Posted 3/17/2009 7:39:48 PM | message detail
probably.. uh... CT!

safe pick is probably Mario 64. no idea what to do with Goldeneye.
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WarThaHedgehog | Posted 3/17/2009 7:40:13 PM | message detail
Chrono Trigger
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/17/2009 7:40:14 PM | message detail
I think that'll actually be close.
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ZFS | Posted 3/17/2009 7:43:07 PM | message detail
I like COD4 > Galaxy for round 2. That's part the Mario name (which I think holds more weight than Smash Bros. at this point), part that Galaxy has been the most well received game on the system, and part the fact that I don't think SMG has any trouble with MGS 1v1. Nothing that I can necessarily prove, but I'm pretty confident in Mario here.

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WarThaHedgehog | Posted 3/17/2009 7:44:06 PM | message detail
Does that mean you're now...

Heroic Mario Galaxy?
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It has War, ExTha, and Crasty insulting each other as hedgehogs while being vaguely about your boobs. What did you expect. - Shadow The ExTha
RPGGamer0 | Posted 3/17/2009 7:44:20 PM | message detail
I'd bet on SM64.

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Congrats to FastFalcon05 for winning the Guru contest.
ZFS | Posted 3/17/2009 7:45:14 PM | message detail
what

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trannyscience | Posted 3/17/2009 7:46:24 PM | message detail
I'll echo the 'what'
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Master Moltar | Posted 3/17/2009 7:46:33 PM | message detail
ZFS more like HMG let's do this
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Moltar Status: yessssssss
all hail MGS4 the king of 2008 games
trannyscience | Posted 3/17/2009 7:47:53 PM | message detail
Moltar Status: yessssssss

you know, this has fascinated me for like a month and I have no idea why

it's just so random
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WarThaHedgehog | Posted 3/17/2009 7:48:28 PM | message detail
tranny, stop reading my mind, because I just noticed Moltar's sig
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It has War, ExTha, and Crasty insulting each other as hedgehogs while being vaguely about your boobs. What did you expect. - Shadow The ExTha
greatone10 | Posted 3/17/2009 7:50:40 PM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #178
So, here's an unimportant match I've not heard opinions on: who do people think will take third between Goldeneye and Super Mario 64 in FF7/CT/GE/SM64?


Chrono Trigger. The match reminds me a lot of Squall/Sora/Yoshi/Fox. The two Nintendo options cancel each other out and the Square options are too strong to be brought down to Mario64/GoldenEye's level.
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Donkey Kong Country 2's path to Best Game Ever '09.
vs. Super Mario RPG, Goldeneye, Resident Evil 2. Ugh, my top 3 games in the same match.
trannyscience | Posted 3/17/2009 7:51:15 PM | message detail
key word - third.
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greatone10 | Posted 3/17/2009 7:52:35 PM | message detail
Oops. That would be Mario 64 then.
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Donkey Kong Country 2's path to Best Game Ever '09.
vs. Super Mario RPG, Goldeneye, Resident Evil 2. Ugh, my top 3 games in the same match.
Yesmar | Posted 3/17/2009 7:53:13 PM | message detail
Am I the only one who thinks that Diamond/Pearl beats Phantom Hourglass if you hold a poll today? PH was probably benefiting somewhat from being recent in that poll. It was a big X-Mas gift that year. I remember it jumping to Number 1 on the FAQ List and staying there for a while as soon as Christmas hit.
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FastFalcon owned me in the Guru Contest!
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/17/2009 7:54:46 PM | message detail
Eh...Kleenex is right. Make a topic if you want to continue this BT.

I don't want to continue it. You're the one who tries to bring it up every time you quote a message of mine.
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greatone10 | Posted 3/17/2009 7:55:21 PM | message detail
I think the fact that D/P is here and Phantom Hourglass isn't certainly lends credibility to that statement.
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Donkey Kong Country 2's path to Best Game Ever '09.
vs. Super Mario RPG, Goldeneye, Resident Evil 2. Ugh, my top 3 games in the same match.
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/17/2009 7:56:43 PM | message detail
Aside from the fact that there are 10 other Zelda titles in the contest
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/17/2009 7:58:12 PM | message detail
I think it just won because Zelda was in the name.

I mean, it won by a lot.
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greatone10 | Posted 3/17/2009 7:59:41 PM | message detail
If Phantom Hourglass had really aged well, it would be one of the 10 Zelda games in the contest.
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Donkey Kong Country 2's path to Best Game Ever '09.
vs. Super Mario RPG, Goldeneye, Resident Evil 2. Ugh, my top 3 games in the same match.
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/17/2009 8:03:41 PM | message detail
Or if it was any good to begin with.

I think that was another classic example of franchise voting.

Then again, Phantom Hourglass at least brought something new to the Zelda series, while D/P was yet another Pokemon cashgrab.
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