GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 658
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/17/2009 3:32:01 PM | message detail |
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Given what we've seen from FF12, and how its fallen off the map completely, I can't see Half-Life 2 not winning there. Final Fantasy 9 is a bit of a different situation since it has a vocal (if small) fanbase, something 12 doesn't really have. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| ZFS | Posted 3/17/2009 3:33:05 PM | message detail |
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The only reason the FFIX/HL match is debatable is because of Chrono
Cross. You take it out of the picture and FFIX has no problems with
that match. It's a bit different with FFXII/HL2, where there's nothing
holding FFXII back. --- http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/3151/hadoukend.gif |
| BigNMarioSonic7 | Posted 3/17/2009 3:34:45 PM | message detail |
| Part 658? What the heck? |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/17/2009 3:36:19 PM | message detail |
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You think Chrono Cross will have any impact in that match? It will be lucky to break 5%, and rightfully so. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| ZFS | Posted 3/17/2009 3:39:15 PM | message detail |
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It could get pushed down that far, if
FFIX SFFs it hard enough, but CC is the kinda game that can manage
double digits just based on its hardcore supporters. --- http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/3151/hadoukend.gif |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 3/17/2009 3:40:24 PM | message detail |
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I don't get the Chrono Cross hate. I loved it... --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/oops.jpg |
| trannyscience | Posted 3/17/2009 3:42:38 PM | message detail |
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/psx/my/196917.html it's so hated --- xyzzy http://i42.tinypic.com/2vbwhn4.jpg |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 3/17/2009 3:44:14 PM | message detail |
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It seems the only reason peopel h ate it is because its not Chrono
Trigger. I never hear any reasons other then that. But if you take away
the expectations and just have fun with the game itself, its an amazing
game in its own right. I've beaten it like 4 times and nominate it,
Serge and Kid every contest <_< --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/oops.jpg |
| voltch | Posted 3/17/2009 3:45:19 PM | message detail |
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ii disagree with XII having fallen off the map,strong games tend to
have good staying power of FAQs list and XII tops the PS2 gen and other
longlasting games like X are beasts,so maybe i'm underestimating 12,but
user averages for those kind of games showcase the split fanbase. it's VIII lite and a weak cast of characters don't matter,i mean basing diablo II of diablo would be stupid. --- Pearl FC:3953 0978 7217 |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/17/2009 3:45:23 PM | message detail |
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Chrono Cross to get first. --- I can feel it coming over me; I feel it all around me. http://www.rosebride.com/lyn/otakon2k6/chronotrigger.jpg |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/17/2009 3:46:19 PM | message detail |
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People are seriously considering Mega Man 2 > Tetris? Are you insane? --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Diablo 2, Lunar: SSSC |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 3/17/2009 3:48:53 PM | message detail |
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From: UltimaterializerX | #111 Tetris didn't show alot of strength last contest, and Mega Man 2 being his strongest game... --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/oops.jpg |
| DpObliVion | Posted 3/17/2009 3:51:07 PM | message detail |
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I should post this in here. Printable bracket for all those interested. http://server3.uploadit.org/files/DpObliVion-BGE2009bracket1.JPG http://server3.uploadit.org/files/DpObliVion-BGE2009bracket2.JPG Visit the topic for information, questions, and comments, as I probably won't respond if you post here. http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=48610313 --- Patrick Roy: 551 career wins -- Martin Brodeur: 551 career wins Best Game Ever 2009 - See profile for printable brackets |
| voltch | Posted 3/17/2009 3:56:24 PM | message detail |
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the real question is how strong do you think MM3 is.I thugh Sonic 2 and
MM2 were top but now i hear sonic 3 is the strongest and MMX is
stronger than 2,so really how's it go? --- Pearl FC:3953 0978 7217 |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 3/17/2009 4:00:17 PM | message detail |
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If Tetris was as beloved as its playership and (vocal) fanbase implied,
it wouldn't have gotten obliterated by LoZ - which, in turn, probably
was never worth the 43% or so it got on SMB3. Franchise voting means a
TON. No one sane out there prefers Metroid to Pac-Man, and it got
slaughtered. Mega Man franchise voting will KILL Tetris, there are no
two ways about this. --- turnturnturn your brain in turnturnturn your brain in |
| trannyscience | Posted 3/17/2009 4:06:39 PM | message detail |
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the question is how big is the Mega Man franchise vote -- there's that
poll that suggest 30% of the site hasn't even played a Mega Man game at
this point. --- xyzzy http://i42.tinypic.com/2vbwhn4.jpg |
| Zylo the wolf | Posted 3/17/2009 4:07:40 PM | message detail |
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I know I'm biased but I can't see the Mega Man games being stronger
than the Sonic games. Mega Man was no doubt one of the most popular
characters, but he never managed to make a whole system sell. But what
do I know? And MM2 is no doubt stronger than MMX. --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. FastFalcon05 > Me |
| Zylo the wolf | Posted 3/17/2009 4:09:35 PM | message detail |
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And I agree with Ulti, why are so many underestimating Tetris? Sure it
got doubled by LoZ but in this format I fail to see how it couldn't be
a force. --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. FastFalcon05 > Me |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/17/2009 4:10:14 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, Tetris bombing in 2004 is the reason I took MM2 there. Mega Man 2
is definitely one of the biggest, most critically acclaimed and overall
timeless NES games. I took it the second I saw the match and I'm not
looking back. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 3/17/2009 4:10:34 PM | message detail |
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Indeed - but I don't think that matters nearly as much when that 30% is
so diluted over multiple options. And since this whole thing is
generation by era, no matter which particular games are in the fourpack
ALL of them have definite reason to have lost playership over the
years. And playership disparity has NEVER been a good reason to trust entities like Tetris or Pac-Man. Only against the most obscure will those "default" votes mean anything. --- turnturnturn your brain in turnturnturn your brain in |
| trannyscience | Posted 3/17/2009 4:12:46 PM | message detail |
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yeah, I never questioned MM2 > Tetris. I'm questioning MMX >
Sonic.. 2? and MM3/FF1/FF4 a lot more than MM2's path which seems cut
and dry. though I guess you can say that MM2/Mario 1/Zelda 1 is debatable -- check out MMX/Mario/Zelda last contest for proof. Mega Man is a leech but still has its own independent fanbase unlike the Nintendo guys. --- xyzzy http://i42.tinypic.com/2vbwhn4.jpg |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/17/2009 4:20:01 PM | message detail |
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I took MM2 there <_< Zelda is going to murder SMB1 there, Mega Man 2 should be independent enough to get through. It's definitely an upset pick though. Mega Man X > Sonic 2 seems pretty good to me, if only because of how weak Sonic looked in 2004, and in the last few contests compared to how great Mega Man X looked last year. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| trannyscience | Posted 3/17/2009 4:21:11 PM | message detail |
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I wonder if the Zelda name is big enough to let Link's Awakening spoil the party there. --- xyzzy http://i42.tinypic.com/2vbwhn4.jpg |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/17/2009 4:21:42 PM | message detail |
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I only have MMX > Sonic 2 because I don't trust Sonic games in this
format, but I might switch this. I don't understand how any of the MM
games will be strong at all. And dumb question I'm sure, but what is a franchise vote? --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Diablo 2, Lunar: SSSC |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/17/2009 4:21:55 PM | message detail |
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Possible, but I find it hard to take a handheld Zelda over 2 of the biggest games of that generation. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/17/2009 4:22:44 PM | message detail |
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Voting for Final Fantasy 1 because you liked the PS1 FFs --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/17/2009 4:24:24 PM | message detail |
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Wait, I switched that one awhile ago. I don't think any one Mega Man
game has any strength, while Sonic 2 undoubtedly got SFFd by Mario
World last time out. No way does the most popular Sonic game lose to
some middle of the road MM title, which is what I think all of them are. --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Diablo 2, Lunar: SSSC |
| Heroic Common Sense | Posted 3/17/2009 4:26:05 PM | message detail |
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....this topic gets really annoying when you read it without an ignore list. --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Diablo 2, Lunar: SSSC |
| trannyscience | Posted 3/17/2009 4:27:28 PM | message detail |
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I don't have any strong feelings about Mega Man or Sonic games.. I'd
pick against them if I had a good option. unfortunately they all have
pretty weak packs so you have to pick between them at some point.
probably go with Mega Man games over Sonic games just because all of
the evidence leans that way. but who knows. I almost like Zelda to go to round 3 and give FF6 first place against LTTP. --- xyzzy http://i42.tinypic.com/2vbwhn4.jpg |
| WarThaHedgehog | Posted 3/17/2009 4:31:56 PM | message detail |
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The more I look at that division, the more I feel like Mortal Kombat II is going to coast to the division finals... --- It has War, ExTha, and Crasty insulting each other as hedgehogs while being vaguely about your boobs. What did you expect. - Shadow The ExTha |
| Heroic Common Sense | Posted 3/17/2009 4:43:31 PM | message detail |
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From: trannyscience | Posted: 3/17/2009 5:27:28 PM | #129 And what evidence is that --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Diablo 2, Lunar: SSSC |
| trannyscience | Posted 3/17/2009 4:44:36 PM | message detail |
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Mega Man doing better than Sonic in fourways, http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2799 --- xyzzy http://i42.tinypic.com/2vbwhn4.jpg |
| Heroic Common Sense | Posted 3/17/2009 4:49:47 PM | message detail |
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Mario pretty clearly SFFs Sonic more than Mega Man, he's not in that Sonic 2/MMX poll, games =/= characters, lolbadumad, etc Actually I have no idea who wins, and I like Sonic 2 a little bit more than MMX. So there you go, my choice. --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Diablo 2, Lunar: SSSC |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/17/2009 4:54:52 PM | message detail |
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Mega Man does better in the format compared to Sonic though characters =/= games. It's really just a gut thing to me though. I think Genesis games will almost always lose to SNES. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| Mr3790 | Posted 3/17/2009 4:58:59 PM | message detail |
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| KamikazePotato | Posted 3/17/2009 5:09:51 PM | message detail |
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Mega Man X is hardly a middle-of-the-pack MM game. It could very well be the strongest MM game in the contest. --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/17/2009 5:21:14 PM | message detail |
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I actually think it is --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 3/17/2009 5:24:33 PM | message detail |
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1834 I mean...yeah. --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 3/17/2009 5:36:55 PM | message detail |
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People are seriously considering Mega Man 2 > Tetris? Are you insane? What is so insane about picking MM2 to beat a game that got tripled by LoZ? A Tetris piece is a joke entrant. The game itself is not. I wonder if the Zelda name is big enough to let Link's Awakening spoil the party there. Yeah, Link's Awakening has bothered me ever since I saw its place in the bracket. I don't have it winning, but the Zelda name always makes me wary. And dumb question I'm sure, but what is a franchise vote? Exactly what I described above. Half the voters haven't played Link's Awakening, but they vote for it just 'cause it's Zelda. It's the reason FFI got 40% on Mario 3, and probably part of the reason LoZ got 43% on Mario 3. It's almost definitely the reason FFT came within 40 votes of beating MGS. Games rely heavily on the franchise power, I think. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| trannyscience | Posted 3/17/2009 5:40:42 PM | message detail |
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you'd think that'd be diluted in fourways, though. --- xyzzy http://i42.tinypic.com/2vbwhn4.jpg |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 3/17/2009 5:41:25 PM | message detail |
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I dunno. Franchise voting is probably what got MGS4 within striking range of SSBB in the GOTY polls, I'm almost positive. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| HaRRicH | Posted 3/17/2009 6:21:48 PM | message detail |
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I'm taking MM2 > Tetris and not looking back: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1650 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2799 MM2 isn't LoZ, but it can do better than be tripled by LoZ (and yes, I say this knowing MMX only got ~20% on LoZ in the Series Contest). Also, I disagree with whoever said Sonic was obviously hurt the worst by SMB in the second poll. Mega Man was more related to SMB than Sonic due to sharing the NES and SNES with it instead of being in competition with Nintendo, not to mention MM and SMB were both more power-based and less on speed than Sonic. Furthermore, if it wasn't for EGM, I wouldn't be shocked if Mega Man would have been more demanded for SSBB than Sonic. Last, I don't trust SMB/SSB from the Series Contest and question Sonic > MM (> SFF'd MMX) because of it. Wasn't SSBB announced shortly before that match? Just saying, Mega Man is quite Nintendo-ish, and for as popular as he was back then that could be a threat to Tetris. Its brand-name isn't so bad off, plus Tetris isn't going to be in its prime in a four-way contest (damn you, big L) thanks to the lack of apathy votes...even if the other two opponents won't be worth much. MM2 will make it ugly with Pong first much like Tetris did in 2004, but MM2 should overcome in Round Two. --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/17/2009 6:28:39 PM | message detail |
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According to Wiki, "Brawl" as a title was officially announced in May. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| trannyscience | Posted 3/17/2009 6:31:37 PM | message detail |
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e3 2006 is the Snake Trailer. http://www.thengamer.com/gamefaqs/06Spring/06-SnakeStrikesSSB.jpg --- xyzzy http://i42.tinypic.com/2vbwhn4.jpg |
| HaRRicH | Posted 3/17/2009 6:37:21 PM | message detail |
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Ah, a month before. For what it's worth, Solid Snake went on a rampage
in that year from September to November. SSB pulling some malarkey
against SMB much sooner than that isn't out of the question, especially
since most of us didn't expect SSB to do that well OR expect SMB to put
up its big numbers against FF in the next round. That plus the
platformer-poll isn't a bad case for suggesting MM > Sonic (though I
think I'm now tackling two arguments by accident). --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
| -LusterSoldier- | Posted 3/17/2009 6:38:32 PM | message detail |
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If Tetris was as beloved as its playership and (vocal) fanbase
implied, it wouldn't have gotten obliterated by LoZ - which, in turn,
probably was never worth the 43% or so it got on SMB3. Franchise voting
means a TON. No one sane out there prefers Metroid to Pac-Man, and it
got slaughtered. Mega Man franchise voting will KILL Tetris, there are
no two ways about this. Franchise voting is probably what got MGS4 within striking range of SSBB in the GOTY polls, I'm almost positive. Agreed. MGS4 is a PS3 exclusive game, in which the system only has 39.84% ownership and it puts up about 48% on SSBB. Anyone who has played one of the earlier MGS games would vote for MGS4, even if they haven't played it yet. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but still not as cool as FastFalcon05, Guru Champ! |
| trannyscience | Posted 3/17/2009 6:39:01 PM | message detail |
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I don't even know what you're arguing! MM/Sonic is just a gut thing,
but I agree with MM is more closely related than Sonic. when Sonic SFFs
Luigi like Mega Man SFFed Yoshi, we'll talk. --- xyzzy http://i42.tinypic.com/2vbwhn4.jpg |
| HaRRicH | Posted 3/17/2009 6:43:25 PM | message detail |
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Haha, I was trying to tie it all together and say Mega Man's got a
strong Nintendo-affiliation that Tetris may not be able to handle.
Whoever said Sonic was hurt more by SMB than MM in the platformer-poll
(Ulti, maybe?) is who I disagreed with while trying to make that point,
which I guess turned into a verbal cluster****. Bah. The point stands. --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
| RPGGamer0 | Posted 3/17/2009 6:56:46 PM | message detail |
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Why are we all so sure Brawl is stronger than SMG again? --- |PM| Congrats to FastFalcon05 for winning the Guru contest. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/17/2009 7:04:04 PM | message detail |
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Brawl had a buttload of hype behind it and was the reason most "hardcore" gamers even thought about buying a Wii. Mario Galaxy is just another tacky 3-D Mario game. You could make arguments for how weak or strong Brawl will be because of the Wii sucks factor, but that only works in relation to other games from other systems. Brawl is still the Wii's top dog. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
