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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 657

WarThaHedgehog | Posted 3/15/2009 4:40:05 PM | message detail
Looks like it's just me and HM riding this gravy train to freedom.
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It has War, ExTha, and Crasty insulting each other as hedgehogs while being vaguely about your boobs. What did you expect. - Shadow The ExTha
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/15/2009 4:40:33 PM | message detail
blue bomber or bust
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ZFS | Posted 3/15/2009 4:41:18 PM | message detail
the AVENGER will save us

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WarThaHedgehog | Posted 3/15/2009 4:41:40 PM | message detail
Save_Us.FF4
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It has War, ExTha, and Crasty insulting each other as hedgehogs while being vaguely about your boobs. What did you expect. - Shadow The ExTha
Master Moltar | Posted 3/15/2009 4:44:25 PM | message detail
figured it was either kleenex or war with hm so i just listed both

my bad!

(lol MM3)
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WarThaHedgehog | Posted 3/15/2009 4:44:57 PM | message detail
You'll see! When this is over, you're going to be Master Loltar!
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It has War, ExTha, and Crasty insulting each other as hedgehogs while being vaguely about your boobs. What did you expect. - Shadow The ExTha
Master Moltar | Posted 3/15/2009 4:46:26 PM | message detail
hey, I have FF4 advancing at the moment!

so yeah, that name might end up being correct anyway
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transience | Posted 3/15/2009 4:46:57 PM | message detail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfFCC71vhDM
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ZFS | Posted 3/15/2009 4:47:27 PM | message detail
we haven't even discussed the after years boost ffiv unstoppable

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WarThaHedgehog | Posted 3/15/2009 4:48:32 PM | message detail
Clearly one train is Mega Man 3, and the other is Mario World! Final Fantasy IV is set!

Either that, or..


...FFIV > FFVII in the semifinals let's do this.
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It has War, ExTha, and Crasty insulting each other as hedgehogs while being vaguely about your boobs. What did you expect. - Shadow The ExTha
WarThaHedgehog | Posted 3/15/2009 4:49:12 PM | message detail
No, no. Let's not. Except in my fun bracket.
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transience | Posted 3/15/2009 4:51:03 PM | message detail
...I want to download that video, upload it and make annotations to show which game is which.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/15/2009 7:30:36 PM | message detail
Need everyone be reminded that FFIV has been released on like 3 different Nintendo platforms

SFFd by Mario World BOOK IT

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charmander6000 | Posted 3/15/2009 8:20:33 PM | message detail
I've updated the BOP (27 brackets) http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls

Some interesting matches

Round 1

2. Mike Tyson’s Punch-Out!! – 14
2. Donkey Kong - 13

2. Duck Hunt – 13
2. Ninja Gaiden – 12

1. Street Fighter II – 19
1. Sonic the Hedgehog - 8

1. Super Metroid – 17
1. Sonic 3 – 8

2. Mega Man X – 18
2. LoZ: Link’s Awakening - 9

1. Pokemon R/B/Y - 14
1. LoZ: Majora’s Mask – 13

2. Final Fantasy Tactics – 17
2. Pokemon G/S – 8

1. Starcraft – 19
1. Final Fantasy VIII - 8

2. Half-Life – 19
2. Final Fantasy IX - 8

2. God of War – 11
2. Tales of Symphonia – 6
2. Oblivion - 5

2. World of Warcraft - 13
2. Halo 2 – 8

2. Half-Life 2 – 17
2. Final Fantasy XII – 9

2. Grand Theft Auto IV – 17
2. Street Fighter IV – 9

2. Portal – 17
2. Bioshock - 8

Round 2

1. Mega Man 2 – 15
1. Tetris - 12

1. The Legend of Zelda – 18
1. Super Mario Bros. - 9

2. Mega Man X – 12
2. Sonic 2 – 7
2. LoZ: Link’s Awakening – 7

2. LoZ: Majora’s Mask – 10
2. Final Fantasy Tactics – 10

2. Starcraft – 19
2. Final Fantasy VIII – 8

1. Final Fantasy X – 14
1. Metroid Prime – 9
2. Final Fantasy X - 10
2. Metroid Prime - 7
2. Metal Gear Solid 2 – 6

2. Halo - 9
2. LoZ: The Wind Waker – 7
2. Super Smash Bros. Melee – 7

2. GTA: San Andreas – 8
2. World of Warcraft – 6
2. Halo 2 – 5

1. Super Smash Bros. Brawl – 12
1. Super Mario Galaxy - 8
1. Call of Duty 4 – 6
2. Super Smash Bros. Brawl – 8
2. Call of Duty 4 – 6
2. Super Mario Galaxy - 6

Round 3

2. Super Mario World – 10
2. Final Fantasy II (IV) – 9

1. Final Fantasy X - 17
1. Super Smash Bros. Melee – 10

1. Super Smash Bros. Brawl – 12
1. Metal Gear Solid 4 – 8
1. Super Mario Galaxy - 7

Round 4

1. Super Mario Bros. 3 - 12
1. The Legend of Zelda – 9
2. Super Mario Bros. 3 – 8
2. Final Fantasy II (IV) - 6
2. The Legend of Zelda - 6
2. Super Mario World – 4

1. Metal Gear Solid 4 – 8
1. Resident Evil 4 – 8
1. LoZ: Twilight Princess – 5
2. LoZ: Twilight Princess – 9
2. Metal Gear Solid 4 – 8
2. Resident Evil 4 - 7

Round 5

2. Final Fantasy X – 10
2. Metal Gear Solid – 4
2. Resident Evil 4 – 4
2. Metal Gear Solid 4 – 3
2. Starcraft – 2

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/15/2009 8:22:11 PM | message detail
This is the first bracket where I've seen so many split people. Maybe the last games contest was also this way?
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/15/2009 8:22:49 PM | message detail
In no situation do I see Mega Man 3 not getting out of that match. You have arguably the 2 weakest Final Fantasies in the contest splitting with eachother.... No amount of Magical "same console making company" SFF is going to overtake that. If it was SMB3, I'd be a bit more hesitant.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/15/2009 8:23:18 PM | message detail
2. God of War – 11
2. Tales of Symphonia – 6
2. Oblivion - 5


...huh.

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ZFS | Posted 3/15/2009 8:26:18 PM | message detail
1. Super Mario Bros. 3 - 12
1. The Legend of Zelda – 9
2. Super Mario Bros. 3 – 8
2. Final Fantasy II (IV) - 6
2. The Legend of Zelda - 6
2. Super Mario World – 4


What a match.

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/15/2009 8:28:36 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #367
...huh.


God of War does not have that match easily by no means.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/15/2009 8:29:10 PM | message detail

From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #366
You have arguably the 2 weakest Final Fantasies in the contest splitting with eachother....


No Mega Man game would still probably beat either of them.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/15/2009 8:31:04 PM | message detail
2. God of War – 11
2. Tales of Symphonia – 6
2. Oblivion - 5

...huh.


Too many ToS fanboys IMO, Oblivion should be the one in second.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/15/2009 8:39:00 PM | message detail
Oblivion? More like Oblivilol

Mirite?
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/15/2009 8:39:44 PM | message detail
And Kratos' contest strength is more than enough to give me 100% confidence in GoW taking second there. I'd be more worried about it coming first than not placing at all.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/15/2009 8:41:17 PM | message detail
Just like Dante's strength makes Devil May Cry look strong.

Wait.

Also I suggest you actually look at a few God of War polls before you assume characters = games.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/15/2009 8:58:55 PM | message detail
I don't see GoW having much strength, heck it's lucky to even make it to round 2. Outside of this match the only games I see God of War beating are Okami, Pheonix Wright, Shadow of the Colossus and maybe Gears of War.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/15/2009 8:59:10 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2247

An absolute bastion of strength, GoW is

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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/15/2009 9:00:30 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2253
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2254

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HaRRicH | Posted 3/15/2009 9:01:20 PM | message detail
GoW's probably going to the second round. It's okay if you have it being upset, but the upset will belong to Oblivion if it happens at all.
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ZFS | Posted 3/15/2009 9:05:13 PM | message detail
Yeah, I've always been skeptical of God of War and Devil May Cry. There's no poll out there where any of them are all that impressive, it's just their lead characters. Think Oblivion is the way to go in round 1.

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HaRRicH | Posted 3/15/2009 9:07:06 PM | message detail
Also, about these polls...I'm pretty sure they were before GoW became a Greatest Hit, which lit its sales on fire again (and I think Kratos showed an increase with before-n-after comparisons, too). GoW is also the most established series of the three here, too, even if it's mainly known for two games.

It's not a sure-fire bet, but I'm okay with relying on it for now.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/15/2009 9:07:21 PM | message detail
GoW's probably going to the second round. It's okay if you have it being upset, but the upset will belong to Oblivion if it happens at all.

Oh no, God of War should be the favourite, but don't expect it to just walk away with it. Also ToS is going to fail again.
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ZFS | Posted 3/15/2009 9:10:08 PM | message detail
I dunno that GoW has been any better since then.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2993
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2801
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3043

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ZFS | Posted 3/15/2009 9:15:10 PM | message detail
Then again, it is against Tales and Oblivion, so it probably doesn't need to be all that strong there.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/15/2009 9:17:12 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2384
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2621
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2626
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2629

Oblivion has been more impressive in every poll it's been in, I think.

Tales...will do surprisingly well due to standing out and the format, but probably doesn't have a chance of advancing.

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/15/2009 9:18:42 PM | message detail
Even then it still has GTA to deal with imo.

I see it being between Oblivion and ToS and these games have at least been more impressive than God of War. 25% in a Gamecube poll with Metroid Prime 2 ain't half bad and neither is coming close to Gears and FFXII.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/15/2009 9:22:33 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1870

Only poll with Symphonia, ever, and it's completely untrustworthy. You've got possible RPG LFF with Paper Mario, possible doing worse due to being lower on the Nintendo Totem Pole than Mario/Metroid, the poll being 4 years ago...yeah.

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/15/2009 9:23:26 PM | message detail
It may have been 4 years ago but ToS still manages to get its characters in these contests and even made it into the bracket.

The game is still a favorite.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/15/2009 9:24:14 PM | message detail
ToS could have won the Game of the Century poll and I still wouldn't take it because of how much its characters suck.
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HaRRicH | Posted 3/15/2009 9:24:27 PM | message detail
I suspect GoW2 would have done better if the PS3 hadn't just come out, and I'm okay with GoW:CoO not doing hot there. GoW competed with DMC despite less games (plus GoW2 was only out for probably four months)...plus they're fighting for scraps there; nobody expects them to beat the GTA's, MGS's, or especially LoZ's of GameFAQs.
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ZFS | Posted 3/15/2009 9:26:02 PM | message detail
I'm not sure 'competing with DMC' is a good thing!

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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/15/2009 9:27:08 PM | message detail
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/15/2009 9:27:34 PM | message detail
Fight for scraps is very bad for a game like GoW. 1 on 1 it would probably beat Oblivion or ToS based on name recognition alone, but that's kind of hard to do when there's a Grand Theft Auto in the way.

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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/15/2009 9:28:51 PM | message detail
But Grand Theft Auto has been on a decline since god knows when; it's been bombing left and right in these things.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/15/2009 9:29:45 PM | message detail
I'm still on the edge between Oblivion and Tales.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/15/2009 9:31:48 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2995

San Andreas is still doing pretty well, at least. Which makes sense - it's recent, didn't have any hype backlash, and was/is well-loved.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/15/2009 9:32:30 PM | message detail
As someone who picked ToS out of massive fanboyism, the chances of it getting second are about 1/10.

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RPGuy96 | Posted 3/15/2009 9:34:42 PM | message detail
I'd say that's pretty bad by San Andreas. There's four Nintendo games (and maybe one Nintendo-light) in the poll and it can only pull 14%, failing to beat heavily LFF'd Twilight Princess and Galaxy? That suggests that either of those (or FFX or RE4 if it is Ninty-lite) would beat it pretty badly one on one.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/15/2009 9:34:51 PM | message detail
I don't see why you'd put that so low. Since it's clear not everybody likes GTA and GoW, it's pretty much Gamecube support vs PC and Xbox.

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HaRRicH | Posted 3/15/2009 9:35:53 PM | message detail
I'm not sure 'competing with DMC' is a good thing!

It is when you just got your second game in a series-based poll!


Only poll with Symphonia, ever, and it's completely untrustworthy. You've got possible RPG LFF with Paper Mario, possible doing worse due to being lower on the Nintendo Totem Pole than Mario/Metroid, the poll being 4 years ago...yeah.

You can look at it like that...or you can look at it as ToS benefiting from all sorts of Nintendo LFF...or just take the poll at face value. Whatever the case, the only thing ToS has done of much worth is manage a spot on the Top 100 List, which I'm certain was more of a board creation than anything else. I think ToS will be a not-that-distant fourth place to the loser of GoW/Oblivion.
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transience | Posted 3/15/2009 9:43:11 PM | message detail
want a pro-Symphonia argument? look at the 360 GOTY poll and then remember that Symphonia is a good ways ahead of Vesperia.
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