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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 657

red sox 777 | Posted 3/14/2009 2:10:50 PM | message detail
Mewtwo/Midna does concern me more than anything else. I have no explanation really, other than Cloud sucking up a huge portion of the votes, and the core Nintendo fanbase favoring Zelda, while RBY draws on a lot of non-Nintendo votes- which went to Cloud.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 3/14/2009 2:11:51 PM | message detail
Yeah, Mewtwo is basically running solely off Pokemon power, and he fought all day to put away Midna.

We're not comparing RBY and TP here. Mewtwo would have killed Majora.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 3/14/2009 2:12:46 PM | message detail
If you ask me, Charizard would curbstomp Mewtwo.

Probably third/second most recognizable Pokemon, a popular starter, on the cover of Red, major roles in most all Pokemon related material, and probably more well liked than Mewtwo.

I mean, nobody who gave up on Pokemon really remembered/liked Mewtwo in my experience, but they almost all remember Charizard.
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transience | Posted 3/14/2009 2:13:31 PM | message detail
Mewtwo is no weaker than Pikachu, if at all. Mewtwo came pretty close to Bowser, winning the day vote outright. Luigi beat Pikachu by more.

and yet Mewtwo struggled to beat Midna.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 3/14/2009 2:13:34 PM | message detail
Charizard was the card to have when they were popular.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/14/2009 2:14:32 PM | message detail
And yet Pikachu outperformed Ganondorf against Samus. Argh 4-ways.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 3/14/2009 2:15:05 PM | message detail
I think we're all forgetting that Pikachu took Samus LFF like a champion and outdid Ganondorf, which is even more confusing.

But then again, the finals were full of crap even discounting Pokemon antics.
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transience | Posted 3/14/2009 2:15:28 PM | message detail
yeah Pikachu is a weird beast. I don't know that we have a good level for him because it seems so variable on what he's in a match with.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/14/2009 2:16:19 PM | message detail
Like I said before, I don't think Pikachu is all Poke power. He's one of the main faces of Smash Bros., I think.
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transience | Posted 3/14/2009 2:16:37 PM | message detail
in a way, I think Pikachu has sort of a joke vote going on - I guess it's kinda lulzy to vote for him. that wouldn't happen with Pokemon.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 3/14/2009 2:17:08 PM | message detail
I say we ignore individual Pokemon since the performances are all over the map.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/14/2009 2:17:26 PM | message detail
What, like Bidoof or Mudkipz?
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transience | Posted 3/14/2009 2:18:15 PM | message detail
ever notice how it does better when against stronger opponents? remember, this is the guy who almost lost to Ike.

unless you believe in Smash Bros rLFF or something what am I doing
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Biolizard28 | Posted 3/14/2009 2:18:52 PM | message detail
From: LeonhartFour | #159
Like I said before, I don't think Pikachu is all Poke power. He's one of the main faces of Smash Bros., I think.

If last contest taught me anything, it's that Smash Bros only helps its games and not the characters it features... except for Snake, Captain Falcon, and Ike, for some reason. Can't be a coincidence they're all fan favorites.

From: transience | #160
in a way, I think Pikachu has sort of a joke vote going on - I guess it's kinda lulzy to vote for him. that wouldn't happen with Pokemon.

I'd say so. We're forgetting that he beat L-Block, and a few maniacs probably wanted to carry on his legacy.

And, well, look at Kirby and Snake's runs.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/14/2009 2:19:41 PM | message detail
If last contest taught me anything, it's that Smash Bros only helps its games and not the characters it features

What, you think Samus beat Sonic because of Super Metroid alone in 2002, and you think Kirby's games alone make him popular?
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Biolizard28 | Posted 3/14/2009 2:21:07 PM | message detail
If you think Pikachu has as much to gain from Smash as Samus and Kirby.... I don't know what to say to you.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/14/2009 2:21:35 PM | message detail
Doesn't mean he doesn't gain anything from it.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 3/14/2009 2:28:11 PM | message detail

From: transience | #163
ever notice how it does better when against stronger opponents? remember, this is the guy who almost lost to Ike.


And you know who else does better against stronger opponents? Joke characters

Pikachu = joke confirmed
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/14/2009 2:30:02 PM | message detail
Okay, here's my reasoning for not putting R/B/Y over Majora's Mask unless there's massive LFF going on:

1) Zelda in the last contest couldn't even be SFF'd from Mario; in fact, it seems like she hurt Mario more than Luigi! Zelda gave Samus a scare and Mega Man even seemed useless against her. It seems like Zelda is only hurt by .. Zelda. Literally.

2) Midna/Mewtwo and even though Mewtwo is weak sauce to a lot of you, it's not like Midna isn't weak sauce also in the Zelda series as well.

3) I still can't get over G/S/C loss to Xenogears. It's most likely stronger today, but it still isn't going to beat anything decent in that 128 division and I can't imagine R/B/Y doing that either. Personally I believe MM is at least equal to Wind Waker or probably stronger than it, and R/B/Y would be even lucky to come close to it.


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red sox 777 | Posted 3/14/2009 2:31:57 PM | message detail
And you know who else does better against stronger opponents? Joke characters

Pikachu = joke confirmed


RBY > FFVII finals confirmed
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voltch | Posted 3/14/2009 2:34:52 PM | message detail
either way both games will LFF each other allowing tactics to go through.

No way in hell has pokemon overcome such a gap so quickly.
Ramza may be weak,but so's kerrigan and starcraft is scaring a good many people and samus/sonic are beasts but who's got any of their games placing in the div finals?
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/14/2009 2:35:26 PM | message detail
I also like to point out that FFVII > SM64 seems to be a popular upset pick in round 3. Do people think that FFVII will SFF CT so SM64 can beat it? Personally I don't see SM64 doing to much better on CT than SMW did.
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swirIdude | Posted 3/14/2009 2:35:44 PM | message detail
Speaking of LFF, anyone think Melee and Wind Waker can both advance into the 01-03 final when their only competition would be the likes of Halo and Diablo II?
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/14/2009 2:36:55 PM | message detail
That competition isn't exactly weak and I also don't think Windwaker will hold strong against a game like Melee, but I could be wrong.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/14/2009 2:37:06 PM | message detail
Speaking of LFF, anyone think Melee and Wind Waker can both advance into the 01-03 final when their only competition would be the likes of Halo and Diablo II?

It's possible, but so is both of them failing to rank in round 2.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 3/14/2009 2:37:15 PM | message detail
I also wonder why nobody brings up Arthas in comparison to Kerrigan for their games strength. Kerrigan was pathetic but Starcraft was a beast... so why not WoW even though Arthas was a low midcarder at best?
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/14/2009 2:37:46 PM | message detail
If there's any case where Zelda gets SFF'd, it's that one. I think Melee can pull it off.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 3/14/2009 2:37:53 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #175
Speaking of LFF, anyone think Melee and Wind Waker can both advance into the 01-03 final when their only competition would be the likes of Halo and Diablo II?

It's possible, but so is both of them failing to rank in round 2.


Never underestimate a Blizzard game in a situation like that.
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swirIdude | Posted 3/14/2009 2:38:03 PM | message detail
Well we just had a discussion about Zelda being the king of resisting rSFF, and based on SMB/SSB in the series contest, Melee would appear to be an SFF resister as well.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/14/2009 2:40:21 PM | message detail
I also believe the Diablo series shouldn't be underestimated. You can bet that Diablo being the strongest PC character is only because of his name.

I just don't know how to interpret that into game strength.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 3/14/2009 2:42:08 PM | message detail

From: MarioSuperstar | #180
I also believe the Diablo series shouldn't be underestimated. You can bet that Diablo being the strongest PC character is only because of his name.

I just don't know how to interpret that into game strength.


Arthas (2007c) VS Diablo (2007c)

Arthas has a strength of 16.78.
Diablo has a strength of 16.55.

Arthas wins with 50.69% of the vote!
A win of 1,921 with 140,118 total votes cast.


Diablo (2007c) VS Gordon Freeman (2007c)

Diablo has a strength of 16.55.
Gordon Freeman has a strength of 19.89.

Gordon Freeman wins with 58.40% of the vote!
A win of 22,296 with 132,774 total votes cast.


Third strongest, but still.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/14/2009 2:42:08 PM | message detail
Never underestimate a Blizzard game in a situation like that.

I was talking about SSBM/WW failing to place.
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transience | Posted 3/14/2009 2:42:48 PM | message detail
SM64 > CT would be upset city if there was no 007.

I'd like to back that thought with Wind Waker advancing but check out that GOTC poll. sure, SSBM isn't as closely related as TP is, but they're the two big games on that console. bad news for Wind Waker. if D2 bombs though it's got a great shot - who knows what Halo can do.
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transience | Posted 3/14/2009 2:43:15 PM | message detail
oh, D2 and Halo advancing instead of them? no way.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/14/2009 2:43:49 PM | message detail
also wonder why nobody brings up Arthas in comparison to Kerrigan for their games strength. Kerrigan was pathetic but Starcraft was a beast... so why not WoW even though Arthas was a low midcarder at best?

I think you know the answer to that. WoW is going to have to rely on a massive rally to be worth anything because GameFAQs just doesn't care about WoW.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 3/14/2009 2:44:02 PM | message detail

From: transience | #184
oh, D2 and Halo advancing instead of them? no way.


If SSBB is able to SFF down WW enough, I definently think Diablo 2 can take advantage of it.
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creativename | Posted 3/14/2009 2:44:20 PM | message detail
4-way...terrible. It's going to be hard to get excited about this one.

And a games contest after so long could have been so epic too.

So, what are the biggest topics of discussion for this one?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 3/14/2009 2:46:08 PM | message detail

From: creativename | #187
4-way...terrible. It's going to be hard to get excited about this one.

And a games contest after so long could have been so epic too.

So, what are the biggest topics of discussion for this one?


Why would you want a 1v1 thats totally predictable? This contest is the most unpredictable we've ever had, and unpredictable = more fun. No fun in knowing whos gonna win everything.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/14/2009 2:47:34 PM | message detail
So, what are the biggest topics of discussion for this one?

Well, FFIV could go to the Semifinals.

Or lose in Round 2.

Same with FFX.

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charmander6000 | Posted 3/14/2009 2:47:46 PM | message detail
1v1 would've still been difficult to predict I think that's the reason people wanted 1v1 before 4-ways.
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ZFS | Posted 3/14/2009 2:48:43 PM | message detail
FFIV in the semifinals represent

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red sox 777 | Posted 3/14/2009 2:48:58 PM | message detail
1v1s don't have to be predictable, and usually aren't. This bracket isn't bad though, outside the generational divisions, excessive SFF, and Chrono Trigger being all but guaranteed a loss in round 4.
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transience | Posted 3/14/2009 2:49:14 PM | message detail
hey creative - we got our disappointment out last week and are just making the best of a bad situation.

big topics are probably SMW/FF1/FF4/Mega Man 3 and the resulting LFF mess it creates, who makes the final with FF7/LTTP/OOT and what happens with stuff like Starcraft. everything else is just small change.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 3/14/2009 2:49:29 PM | message detail
Also, creative... Bacon made a topic (though it seems to have purged) saying 4ways are here to stay. So either embrace it or don't, but it won't change either way. You'll just stay unhappy if you don't embrace it :)
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/14/2009 2:49:42 PM | message detail
Oh, sorry. FFX could go to the finals, actually, not just the semis.



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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/14/2009 2:52:34 PM | message detail
Why would you want a 1v1 thats totally predictable? This contest is the most unpredictable we've ever had, and unpredictable = more fun.

There's a difference between being unpredictable and being a total crapshoot. That's what THIS contest is. And I'll sacrifice unpredictability on paper for good matches in practice, which the Games Contest had tons of both.

And a one-on-one Games Contest without generations would be the farthest thing from "totally predictable."
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/14/2009 2:52:41 PM | message detail
And MGS has increased in popularity since then. If it went head to head with Tactics today i think it would win much more easily.

I fail to see this point. Snake has increased in popularity, but MGS4 didn't sell much better than previous games in the series.

Not only that, but The Twin Snakes came out literally right before the contest last time, and FFT has since had a well-recieved remake.

It seems as though people are putting too much stock in characters this year.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 3/14/2009 2:54:12 PM | message detail
While I agree the generations idea is dumb and this contest coulda been better if it was the 128 best and most nominated games, its still goin to be a good contest overall with lots of excitement and unexpected matches. And for me, unexpected to me and seeing upsets is more important then the legitamacy of an online poll.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/14/2009 2:54:21 PM | message detail
So, what are the biggest topics of discussion for this one?

I think this topic contains one of them!

And the biggest thing is that everyone's trying to find an ideal situation where FFVII or OoT fail to place in the finals.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/14/2009 2:57:10 PM | message detail
LttP is not guarentee to reach the finals. If the semi-final match is SMB3/LoZ/FF7/LttP, which is likely, only FFIV could probably stop this SMB3 has a good chance at making it to the finals.
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