GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 657
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/14/2009 12:10:58 PM | message detail |
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Series Contest says yes. Yeah pretty much, but the only thing that kinda gets in the way of this is Samus vs Link. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 3/14/2009 12:12:00 PM | message detail |
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Samus and Metroid are two different beasts, and that's very clear to me at least. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/14/2009 12:26:25 PM | message detail |
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From: LeonhartFour | Posted: 3/14/2009 2:53:27 PM | #036 You have a point there, though I ended up switching to MGS > FFT out of pure fanboyism. Plus MGS was clearly SFFd in 2004, and is probably a top ten game. And FFT almost beat it. --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Diablo 2, Lunar: SSSC |
| Chaotic Mind | Posted 3/14/2009 12:53:55 PM | message detail |
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Which is why I think it's kinda humorous that people think Pokemon
R/B/Y can place in a poll with Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy Tactics,
and Zelda: Majora's Mask. Three of those are part of GameFAQs' top 5
series. Guess which one isn't. True, and I had MGS>Tactics at first. But then I remembered that MGS and FF seem to have a SFF, and now i'm not even sure Tactics makes it out of round 1. As for ZMM, i just don't see it being very strong despite being a Zelda game. I think the original Pokemon game will be just strong enough to edge it out. --- Flash runs alongside Balefire watching marshmallows stop existing. - WarThaNemesis2 |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/14/2009 1:02:06 PM | message detail |
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But then I remembered that MGS and FF seem to have a SFF ... http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1642 --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Diablo 2, Lunar: SSSC |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/14/2009 1:02:35 PM | message detail |
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And Tactics wins that without MGS's standard 25th hour vote-stuffing crap. --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Diablo 2, Lunar: SSSC |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 3/14/2009 1:05:46 PM | message detail |
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Here's my thought process for choosing MGS>Pokemon: -I would take R/B/Y over FF8 -FFT is much weaker than FF8 -Pokemon resists LFF very well -I LOVE ME SOME POKEMANS -MGS should overlap a tad with FFT --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
| Chaotic Mind | Posted 3/14/2009 1:07:18 PM | message detail |
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Yeah but Ulti, this is a 4-way. And MGS has increased in popularity since then. If it went head to head with Tactics today i think it would win much more easily. I wish i were wrong btw, because i think MGS1 is crap and Tactics is excellent. --- Flash runs alongside Balefire watching marshmallows stop existing. - WarThaNemesis2 |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/14/2009 1:16:47 PM | message detail |
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-FFT is much weaker than FF8 And there's your first mistake. --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Diablo 2, Lunar: SSSC |
| HaRRicH | Posted 3/14/2009 1:18:01 PM | message detail |
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I'm pretty sure people are over-rating Pokemon R/B/Y. It's one thing to
have it in contention with LoZ:MM, it's another to have it beat
LoZ:MM...but to have it advance despite LoZ:MM in R2? Yeesh. Perfect
Dark's already going to be a tough cookie for it in R1. MGS and FFT
should rock its LFF'd world. --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
| red sox 777 | Posted 3/14/2009 1:20:47 PM | message detail |
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I think of RBY as a top 15 game, but we really can't know how strong it is until we see it in action. --- Hobbes: What's the point of attaching a number to everything you do? Calvin: If your numbers go up, it means you're having more fun. |
| swirIdude | Posted 3/14/2009 1:22:42 PM | message detail |
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Upset possibility: Zelda: LttP > Doom > Super Mario Kart > Sonic 3 Plausible? --- SSBB FC: 4425-1156-3590 FastFalcon: His predictions cure teen pregnancy. |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 3/14/2009 1:23:05 PM | message detail |
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-I would take R/B/Y over FF8 I was about to say that this was your first mistake, but Ulti beat me to it. And saying Pokemon resists LFF very well is your second mistake. One way or the other, I just can't see a Pokemon game beating out a Zelda game here. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 3/14/2009 1:23:27 PM | message detail |
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What's the upset? Mario Kart over Sonic 3? --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 3/14/2009 1:24:09 PM | message detail |
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Yes. If Zelda SFFs Sonic like in the character contests, then it should be no problem. --- ertyu is actually a language. For example, 'dum' is ertyunese for 'godly'. - Topaz Kitsune Believe it or not, the Internet is serious business - Biolizard28 |
| swirIdude | Posted 3/14/2009 1:24:41 PM | message detail |
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From: LeonhartFour | Posted: 3/14/2009 4:23:27 PM | #064 Doom over a Mario game. Doom didn't exactly beat down Earthbound in 2004... --- SSBB FC: 4425-1156-3590 FastFalcon: His predictions cure teen pregnancy. |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 3/14/2009 1:25:21 PM | message detail |
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Got a question for you Leon: Super Mario Bros. Vs. Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening. Who would you take? --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/14/2009 1:25:44 PM | message detail |
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From: KamikazePotato | #057 I wouldn't. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| Biolizard28 | Posted 3/14/2009 1:27:41 PM | message detail |
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I'm seriously starting to reconsider OoT > FF7. If OoT ends up stomping LttP into the ground and FF7 is as antivoted as I think it is, it could take a very easy first place. --- i have nothing against pedophiles especially the ones that actually act on their desires-Palmer Now this is entertainment! |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 3/14/2009 1:29:06 PM | message detail |
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How can you antivote in this contest? --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| red sox 777 | Posted 3/14/2009 1:29:34 PM | message detail |
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LTTP is going to be extremely hard to stomp into the ground. --- Hobbes: What's the point of attaching a number to everything you do? Calvin: If your numbers go up, it means you're having more fun. |
| Mr3790 | Posted 3/14/2009 1:29:38 PM | message detail |
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Tagging For future reference... --- AC:WW Code: Name:Mr.378 Town:Darkcity FC: 4210-5769-8462 GENO WHIRL! |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 3/14/2009 1:31:39 PM | message detail |
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Got a question for you Leon: Super Mario Bros. Vs. Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening. Who would you take? Mario Bros., easily. Sorry, but the Mario series and the Pokemon series aren't on the same level of comparison here. Mario has already proven it can beat Zelda in a Games Contest anyway. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 3/14/2009 1:33:27 PM | message detail |
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So then your argument is that Pokemon isn't popular in four-way contests. I just want to make sure what exactly you're arguing here. --- ertyu is actually a language. For example, 'dum' is ertyunese for 'godly'. - Topaz Kitsune Believe it or not, the Internet is serious business - Biolizard28 |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/14/2009 1:33:49 PM | message detail |
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Oh wait, that was meant to quote Pokemon > FF8. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 3/14/2009 1:34:13 PM | message detail |
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My argument is that Pokemon isn't as popular as Zelda ANYWHERE. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| red sox 777 | Posted 3/14/2009 1:34:18 PM | message detail |
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Nor is it fair to compare the strongest Pokemon game with a low-level
Zelda game. MM will be drawing heavily from its Zelda name; RBY won't
get any real help from having "Pokemon" in its title, I think. --- Hobbes: What's the point of attaching a number to everything you do? Calvin: If your numbers go up, it means you're having more fun. |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 3/14/2009 1:34:35 PM | message detail |
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Although I'm curious to know why Pikachu performed so well the past two years. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| Biolizard28 | Posted 3/14/2009 1:35:16 PM | message detail |
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From: XxSoulxX | #070 How can you antivote in this contest? By actively voting so FF7 loses? I dunno. --- i have nothing against pedophiles especially the ones that actually act on their desires-Palmer Now this is entertainment! |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 3/14/2009 1:35:57 PM | message detail |
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Nor is it fair to compare the strongest Pokemon game with a
low-level Zelda game. MM will be drawing heavily from its Zelda name;
RBY won't get any real help from having "Pokemon" in its title, I think. So...advantage Zelda, then? Although I'm curious to know why Pikachu performed so well the past two years. Same reason Samus and Kirby can do so well despite having games that don't approach their level of popularity: Smash Bros. Not saying Pokemon is weak, but I do think it's being heavily overestimated. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 3/14/2009 1:36:18 PM | message detail |
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By actively voting so FF7 loses? I dunno. So you mean people who don't like FF7 will automatically vote for OoT, or do you think they will vote for one of the other options making their vote pointless? --- ertyu is actually a language. For example, 'dum' is ertyunese for 'godly'. - Topaz Kitsune Believe it or not, the Internet is serious business - Biolizard28 |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 3/14/2009 1:36:18 PM | message detail |
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Don't underestimate R/B/Y. It's got a *lot* going for it. (of course, I'm underestimating FFT, but whatever) --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
| Lopen | Posted 3/14/2009 1:36:22 PM | message detail |
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Doom is going to beast through its division mmm delicious LFF. --- 6% Next 2 Miles |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 3/14/2009 1:36:44 PM | message detail |
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From: XxSoulxX | #070 How can you antivote in this contest? By actively voting so FF7 loses? I dunno. The only problem is that people won't be "anti-voting" for the same game, which kinda nullifies the effectiveness. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| Biolizard28 | Posted 3/14/2009 1:37:01 PM | message detail |
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From: red sox 777 | #071 LTTP is going to be extremely hard to stomp into the ground. We know this because we've seen LttP and OoT together in a contest poll before. --- i have nothing against pedophiles especially the ones that actually act on their desires-Palmer Now this is entertainment! |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 3/14/2009 1:37:48 PM | message detail |
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(of course, I'm underestimating FFT, but whatever) I just wanted to make sure we were clear on this point! And while R/B/Y has stuff going for it, having Zelda against you is having a lot against you at the same time. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| red sox 777 | Posted 3/14/2009 1:38:13 PM | message detail |
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So...advantage Zelda, then? What I'm saying is that RBY is stronger than its series, if you will, so the Zelda/Pokemon comparison does not hold. --- Hobbes: What's the point of attaching a number to everything you do? Calvin: If your numbers go up, it means you're having more fun. |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 3/14/2009 1:38:33 PM | message detail |
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We know this because we've seen LttP and OoT together in a contest poll before. Poll 1225 (04/12/2003) What's your favorite Zelda game? 4372 7.63% Legend of Zelda 15079 26.32% Link to the Past 2499 4.36% Link's Awakening 2473 4.32% Majora's Mask 20818 36.34% Ocarina of Time 1244 2.17% Oracle of Ages/Seasons 9394 16.40% Wind Waker 1402 2.45% Zelda II: Adventure of Link TOTAL VOTES: 57281 Not a contest poll, but whatever! --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| Biolizard28 | Posted 3/14/2009 1:39:13 PM | message detail |
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From: XxSoulxX | #081 So you mean people who don't like FF7 will automatically vote for OoT, or do you think they will vote for one of the other options making their vote pointless? Think of it like this: FF7, OoT, Zero Wing, and Cool Spot in the poll. I want to vote against FF7. OoT is in second place. If I want to get FF7 to "lose" this match, I will vote for the close second. Obviously less effective, but you get the idea. --- i have nothing against pedophiles especially the ones that actually act on their desires-Palmer Now this is entertainment! |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 3/14/2009 1:39:28 PM | message detail |
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What I'm saying is that RBY is stronger than its series, if you will, so the Zelda/Pokemon comparison does not hold. This argument makes no sense. One game stronger than the entire series? And Pokemon is pure Nintendo. It's not going to be magically immune to LFF from Zelda. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 3/14/2009 1:40:08 PM | message detail |
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Holy crap, here I was thinking LA would be the weakest Zelda game we would see here. How the hell did it beat MM? --- ertyu is actually a language. For example, 'dum' is ertyunese for 'godly'. - Topaz Kitsune Believe it or not, the Internet is serious business - Biolizard28 |
| Biolizard28 | Posted 3/14/2009 1:40:08 PM | message detail |
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And I'm sure the rest of those votes are split evenly in half between the two, right? --- i have nothing against pedophiles especially the ones that actually act on their desires-Palmer Now this is entertainment! |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 3/14/2009 1:40:51 PM | message detail |
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LA isn't quite as closely related to OoT as Majora's Mask is. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 3/14/2009 1:41:46 PM | message detail |
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Think of it like this: FF7, OoT, Zero Wing, and Cool Spot in the poll. I want to vote against FF7. OoT is in second place. If I want to get FF7 to "lose" this match, I will vote for the close second. Obviously less effective, but you get the idea. The vast majority of voters will vote for their favorite. If they don't have a favorite, but they dislike FF7, they're going to vote randomly. They won't analyze the match and then make an educated pick. --- ertyu is actually a language. For example, 'dum' is ertyunese for 'godly'. - Topaz Kitsune Believe it or not, the Internet is serious business - Biolizard28 |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 3/14/2009 1:42:01 PM | message detail |
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Zelda is Zelda. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| red sox 777 | Posted 3/14/2009 1:42:06 PM | message detail |
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Well, that wasn't phrased well. I mean RBY as a game is much stronger
relative to other games than Pokemon as a series is relative to other
series. --- Hobbes: What's the point of attaching a number to everything you do? Calvin: If your numbers go up, it means you're having more fun. |
| charmander6000 | Posted 3/14/2009 1:42:21 PM | message detail |
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I'd also take MM > LA without much thinking. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls Submit BOP here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=48529509 |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 3/14/2009 1:43:05 PM | message detail |
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Same here, but it does give me more confidence for the whole MM is weak theory. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 3/14/2009 1:43:16 PM | message detail |
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R/B/Y stronger than it's series? Yeah, pretty much. Pokemon as a series includes many games people don't care about, the spinoff and merchandise whoring, and the general stigma it had for a while. That's gone away, mostly, but it's still there. R/B/Y doesn't have any of that. To many people, it represents everything good about Pokemon. --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
| Biolizard28 | Posted 3/14/2009 1:43:49 PM | message detail |
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From: XxSoulxX | #094 The vast majority of voters will vote for their favorite. If they don't have a favorite, but they dislike FF7, they're going to vote randomly. They won't analyze the match and then make an educated pick. They'd probably think "Hey, OoT is probably gonna get a lot of votes, so why not?" ... Well, not probably, but I've always been one to overestimate other people's intelligence. --- i have nothing against pedophiles especially the ones that actually act on their desires-Palmer Now this is entertainment! |
