GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 656
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/10/2009 7:25:53 PM | message detail |
UP THE IRONS! ~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~ www.gamefaqscontests.com ~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/ ~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~ http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ http://thengamer.com/xstats http://thengamer.com/stats ~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories ~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~ A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA ~*All the match pics*~ http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php ~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages ~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~ SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them. X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process. rSFF (Reverse Same Fanbase Factor): An unproven theory that states that an SFF match will feature the expected weaker character receiving more benefit from SFF than the stronger character. For example, all evidence supports Samus being indirectly stronger than Mario, yet Mario blew Samus away during their 2005 match. That's rSFF in action, and the one case we have of the weaker statistical character winning with it. For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything. And remember to ignore any and all trolls, since one-sided trolling always ends fast. --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Diablo 2, Lunar: SSSC |
ToadYoshi | Posted 3/10/2009 7:27:33 PM | message detail |
Link to the Past/FF7/FF3/Chrono Trigger Trigger>LttP BELIEVE. --- Jinjo for Summer Contest 2008 |
trannyscience | Posted 3/10/2009 7:29:47 PM | message detail |
get ready for a great bracket Mario 1 Zelda 1 Mario 3 Mario World FF6 Zelda: LTTP FF7 CT Zelda: OOT FF8 SSBM FF10 Zelda: TP FF12 SSBB MGS4 best contest ever --- xyzzy http://i42.tinypic.com/2vbwhn4.jpg |
Mr3790 | Posted 3/10/2009 7:30:08 PM | message detail |
FF7>Trigger Believe. --- AC:WW Code: Name:Mr.378 Town:Darkcity FC: 4210-5769-8462 GENO WHIRL! |
Master Moltar | Posted 3/10/2009 7:38:38 PM | message detail |
Mario 1 Zelda 1 Mario 3 Mario World FF6 Zelda: LTTP FF7 CT Zelda: OOT FF8 SSBM FF10 Zelda: TP FF12 SSBB MGS4 "whoops" --- Moltar Status: yessssssss all hail MGS4 the king of 2008 games |
WalrusJump | Posted 3/10/2009 7:40:41 PM | message detail |
Starcraft > OoT in the final who wants some --- Do you know I'd be proud, if you'd call my name out loud . . . |
M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 3/10/2009 9:09:06 PM | message detail |
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KotovSyndrome | Posted 3/10/2009 9:10:37 PM | message detail |
My reasoning for CoF4 not advancing is simple; Yearly FPS games in
general lose their popularity when the new one is out. At this point, I
really can't see many people caring about Call of Duty 4 that much,
especially with World at War dominating the XBL charts compared to CoD4
now. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://www.gamerevolution.com/images/misc/image/sonic-next-gen-fail.jpg |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/10/2009 9:12:12 PM | message detail |
Mario Galaxy won't be beating SSBB any time soon. Sure Brawl really
dropped off after it came out, but Mario Galaxy never had the hype and
I don't think I've seen too many people talking about it. Then there's
the whole GotY thing and the Wii really dropping off between Brawl and
SMG --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/10/2009 9:12:48 PM | message detail |
I can see them caring about it a heck lot more than Pokemon D/P and Grand Theft Auto. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/10/2009 9:14:02 PM | message detail |
And remember to ignore any and all trolls, since one-sided trolling always ends fast. Some people can't read. --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Diablo 2, Lunar: SSSC |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/10/2009 9:14:10 PM | message detail |
From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #009 I don't honestly understand why you base contest strength on this. From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #009 I don't think this suggests much about Galaxy itself. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
KotovSyndrome | Posted 3/10/2009 9:14:58 PM | message detail |
I don't see anyone trolling in this topic other then you atm, Ulti. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://www.gamerevolution.com/images/misc/image/sonic-next-gen-fail.jpg |
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/10/2009 9:15:24 PM | message detail |
Tag --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/10/2009 9:15:27 PM | message detail |
CoD4 > SSBB in round 2, calling it now --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
BDawg | Posted 3/10/2009 9:16:22 PM | message detail |
Yeah I don't see Galaxy ever beating Brawl. You got a mediocre Mario
game vs. a mediocre (apparently?) all-star fighter of all things
Nintendo. Give me all things Nintendo. But will Brawl get leeched
enough to fall to COD4? Well, I didn't think so but I can't say it
couldn't happen. And if Pokemon advances it's irrelevant cause there's
plenty of Pokemon in Brawl to kill that beast. --- Should I start running now? |
M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 3/10/2009 9:17:33 PM | message detail |
From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #015 That actually kinda makes sense. I'm definitely not going for it, but I could see it being feasible. It'd be funny and pretty much guarantee my bracket to be ****ed! --- http://l33trappacat.blogspot.com/ |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/10/2009 9:18:18 PM | message detail |
Well, it wouldn't really mean much since it'll be SSBB > MGS4 in the next round <_< --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/10/2009 9:20:23 PM | message detail |
I feels weird having an unpopular pick with Turtle. I suddenly lost a bit of confidence. And what are you calling a mediocre Mario game? It was pretty close to Twilight Princess! --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 3/10/2009 9:22:19 PM | message detail |
Got CoD4>SMG in R2. --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
BDawg | Posted 3/10/2009 9:28:00 PM | message detail |
I'm pretty sure GTA IV is gonna be in play. Even though GTA always seems to disappoint. --- Should I start running now? |
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/10/2009 9:29:42 PM | message detail |
I doubt GTA4 will get out of the first round. Has any game's hype dropped faster, ever? --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
ffmasterjose | Posted 3/10/2009 9:30:41 PM | message detail |
I've got FFVII > Chrono Trigger right now, aww yeah let's hop on the upset wagon! --- 0/0 points - The Best. Game. Ever 2009 Contest NP: Tetris > Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!! |
ffmasterjose | Posted 3/10/2009 9:32:23 PM | message detail |
My 2007-2009 section is so god-awful to me. What do some of you guys have? --- 0/0 points - The Best. Game. Ever 2009 Contest NP: Tetris > Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!! |
BDawg | Posted 3/10/2009 9:34:29 PM | message detail |
Only thing I'm confident in is MGS4 getting out of the division. --- Should I start running now? |
transience | Posted 3/10/2009 9:35:39 PM | message detail |
yeah MGS4 looks golden for a good while. --- xyzzy STREET FIGHTER 4, SON http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvPKGSk13zo |
Master Moltar | Posted 3/10/2009 9:36:48 PM | message detail |
all hail mgs4 --- Moltar Status: yessssssss all hail MGS4 the king of 2008 games |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/10/2009 9:38:23 PM | message detail |
My worst divisions are probably 2007/2009 and 2001/2003. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/10/2009 9:42:17 PM | message detail |
2007 Division advice from someone who KNOWS what he's talking about: random.org --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/8zkzm1.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
dethfdddddh | Posted 3/10/2009 9:43:20 PM | message detail |
I really like Pokemon Red/Blue>Majora's Mask in round 1 for some asinine reason. --- Fast Falcon ate my bracket for dinner in the guru contest. |
Tequilla Gundam | Posted 3/10/2009 9:48:29 PM | message detail |
get ready for a great bracket Mario 1 Zelda 1 Mario 3 Mario World FF6 Zelda: LTTP FF7 CT Zelda: OOT FF8 FF10 Halo Zelda: TP SMG GTA:SA MGS4 best contest ever --- Feel my truth. |
Iubaris | Posted 3/10/2009 9:59:47 PM | message detail |
Am I massively overrating portal to have SSBB > Portal make it out
of the division? I think it has some massive potential for interweb
rallying. --- It's iubaris, not Lubaris. But FastFalcon can call me anything he wants! |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/10/2009 10:23:05 PM | message detail |
More like Zelda 1 Mega Man 2 Mario 3 Mega Man 3 FF6 LttP FF7 CT OoT Starcraft FFX Diablo 2 WoW TP MGS4 SSBB --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
Masato_Tanaka | Posted 3/10/2009 11:14:06 PM | message detail |
Jeez I kind of hate this bracket >_> like I love it, but predicting it is just AUGH --- The Straight Up G The Palace of Wisdom Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
KotovSyndrome | Posted 3/10/2009 11:26:31 PM | message detail |
From: Masato_Tanaka | #034 Which is why this'll be such a fun and exciting contest. Anything can happen! --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://www.gamerevolution.com/images/misc/image/sonic-next-gen-fail.jpg |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 3/11/2009 12:25:38 AM | message detail |
trannyscience | Posted 3/10/2009 10:29:47 PM | message detail get ready for a great bracket Mario 1 Zelda 1 Mario 3 Mario World I'm pretty sure FF1 has a good shot at pushing past Mario World in round 3 for second place because of the SFF between Mario 3 and Mario World. I consider Mario World to be weaker than Mario 3, so this could be possible. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but still not as cool as FastFalcon05, Guru Champ! |
Janus5000 | Posted 3/11/2009 12:27:32 AM | message detail |
Luster almost knows what's up. --- http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/HowDisturbing/stayawhile.jpg Stay a while and breathe me in. |
bogalx | Posted 3/11/2009 12:38:15 AM | message detail |
Isn't FFIV a lot more popular than I? Especially now with the DS remake and everything. But yeah, I could definitely see SMB3 > FFIV. |
ExquisiteSamurai | Posted 3/11/2009 1:41:43 AM | message detail |
Wait, so people actually think FFVII can place first in the
FFVII/LTTP/CT/FFVI matchup?? Am i missing something here because i
think it's literally 99.9% that LTTP takes first .. am i delusional for
thinking that? --- Awaiting Final Fantasy XIII |
Iamthekuzalol | Posted 3/11/2009 4:11:52 AM | message detail |
Those are the same people who thought that Snake will never come close to defeating Cloud even when Sephiroth is in the same poll. Some even had Sephiroth beating Snake in that match. All I can say is that they have too much truth and faith in FF7. |
greatone10 | Posted 3/11/2009 4:25:19 AM | message detail |
From: ExquisiteSamurai | #039 I have LttP over FF7 there. Of course, the way this bracket is, one of the Square titles may not make it there, whether it be by Mega Man X impressing or Chrono Trigger getting out SFFed, and if even one of those happen, FFVII wins without a doubt. --- Donkey Kong Country 2's path to Best Game Ever '09. vs. Super Mario RPG, Goldeneye, Resident Evil 2. Ugh, my top 3 games in the same match. |
Destharion | Posted 3/11/2009 4:37:02 AM | message detail |
FFVII demolishes all other Final Fantasies (see some poll where it takes 40% of the vote against the entire series). Therefore FFVI will barely hurt it; don't overestimate FFVI's strength as everyone knows that its fanboys are a VERY vocal minority. Chrono Trigger seems to share fanbase only marginally with FFVII. And the biggest reason why FFVII will beat LttP - it's the only game in that fourpack that didn't appear on the SNES. It seems obvious to me. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/11/2009 5:06:54 AM | message detail |
Zelda: OOT FF8 SSBM FF10 That's what I have! And man, there's so much that I disagree with in these topics that it's not even worth discussing! Man, the opinions on the games in this contest vary incredibly widely. That's one good thing about this contest, I suppose. You didn't come anywhere close to this diversity of opinions in the last two Character Battles. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
jonthomson | Posted 3/11/2009 6:26:25 AM | message detail |
i have mgs4 in the final and starcraft in the last 8. i don't know whether that's genius or nuts. --- Jon Thomson - 1:10 pure 1:43 100% - HKP: 179 Super Metroid's Path To Glory: R1 vs. Sonic 3, Gunstar Heroes, Super Mario Kart |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/11/2009 6:52:24 AM | message detail |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2593 3rd place out of all these ain't bad. I'm honestly shocked people even think FF8 will lose the first round. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/11/2009 6:53:56 AM | message detail |
From: ExquisiteSamurai | #039 The reason I think FF7 still takes first is because there are more hardcore FF7 fans than there are Cloud and Sephiroth fans. Those guys were in the same guy and Snake STILL barely beat Cloud without all the rallying or whatever. FF7/CT seemed like a normal match. They probably would barely split. FF7/FF6 is like old school vs new school, and that's the only kind of split I'd even expect. LTTP probably wouldn't get too much on FF7 itself to take advantage of anything that happens. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/11/2009 6:54:14 AM | message detail |
er, not same guy but same game. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 3/11/2009 6:56:14 AM | message detail |
Dammit, I'm changing my matches to go logic-based instead of gut-based,
and already I can tell this is going to affect my entire finals. I don't even think I should bother at this point. --- http://l33trappacat.blogspot.com/ |
M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 3/11/2009 6:57:27 AM | message detail |
Wait, why am I using logic in this thing? I'll just do the opposite of my gut! --- http://l33trappacat.blogspot.com/ |
M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 3/11/2009 6:58:27 AM | message detail |
No, I have a much better idea. --- http://l33trappacat.blogspot.com/ |