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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 654

jonthomson | Posted 3/7/2009 12:20:23 PM | message detail
ok, initial thoughts:

- four way matches do nothing for me. we've seen the hilarity that they can create with L-Block once, but it's not being repeated here imo, similar to last time out.

- splitting by generations does nothing for me either. i wouldn't have minded it so much if we had, say, four of each generation in each quarter split into each first round match, but do we really need to have three matches to watch Zelda win the 72-88 division? Having one before chucking it and another oldie in against a different era would be much more interesting

- thanks for throwing my favourite game into an embarrassing LttP SFF fest again allen. i wouldn't be shocked if it lost to super ****ing mario kart in round 1.

- super street fighter 2 turbo? really? everyone groups them all into one game, just list the obvious simplest one.

- lol, i didn't see the original prior to capcom making 254 different versions of it listed in the 89-91 segment, wat

- 2004-6 looks brutal to call.

- thank god mega man 2 got some representation.

- we can watch lots of semi-obscure rpg's get annihilated, same as their characters do every single year. none of ps4, suikoden, lufia 2, xenogears, chrono cross, disgaea, ToS stand any chance of getting through round 1. what joy.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/7/2009 12:20:32 PM | message detail
So what's everybody got to say about that FF8/SSB fourpack? SSB is sooo tempting because it's the lone dawg there.

Though I don't even know if I'd take SSB over SC of FF8 1 on 1.. I'd be tempted to do even that!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/7/2009 12:23:00 PM | message detail
FFVIII and StarCraft would both beat Smash Bros. one-on-one. The question is what Xenogears does to FFVIII.
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transience | Posted 3/7/2009 12:25:16 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=48477319
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/7/2009 12:25:16 PM | message detail
FF8 sure, but Starcraft I'm not so sure. Halo vs SSB doesn't seem like something Halo would exactly 'dominate'.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/7/2009 12:25:58 PM | message detail

From: MarioSuperstar | Posted: 3/7/2009 2:20:32 PM | #302
So what's everybody got to say about that FF8/SSB fourpack? SSB is sooo tempting because it's the lone dawg there.

Though I don't even know if I'd take SSB over SC of FF8 1 on 1.. I'd be tempted to do even that!


Is that the one with FF8, Starcraft, Smash Brothers and Xenogears? I think I'll go with Starcraft > Smash Brothers, and POSSIBLY Smash Brothers > Starcraft. It has franchise voting helping it out a ton, and I doubt FF8 is at all strong. Plus it has Xenogears knocking it down a peg.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/7/2009 12:28:32 PM | message detail
The Smash Bros. series strength comes almost entirely from Melee and Brawl.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/7/2009 12:28:51 PM | message detail
FF franchise voting is just as strong as Smash franchise votin... well, I'd think, anyway.

I don't think Squall is any good sign of FF8's strength though since he has KH on his side too.
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jonthomson | Posted 3/7/2009 12:29:27 PM | message detail
The Smash Bros. series strength comes almost entirely from Melee and Brawl

we know that how?
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/7/2009 12:32:10 PM | message detail
Smash Brothers benefits FAR more from franchise voting than FF8 does. People hate FF8.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/7/2009 12:33:49 PM | message detail
FF franchise voting is just as strong as Smash franchise votin... well, I'd think, anyway.

I don't think Squall is any good sign of FF8's strength though since he has KH on his side too


FFVIII did very well on the games list as well, and it would've been a high seed in 2004 had it not been for the generational cap. FFVIII will do fine. We've never really seen it in a poll apart from FFVII, and honestly, which game is going to be hurt most by being in a poll with FFVII?

The Smash Bros. series strength comes almost entirely from Melee and Brawl

we know that how?


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3199
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/7/2009 12:34:29 PM | message detail
Smash Brothers benefits FAR more from franchise voting than FF8 does. People hate FF8.

And people love Final Fantasy VIII, too, and people love Final Fantasy in general. It'll get that franchise favoring.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/7/2009 12:36:05 PM | message detail
That poll's pretty convincing.
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jonthomson | Posted 3/7/2009 12:37:07 PM | message detail
yeah, i think that poll is somewhat misleading.

seriously, no metroid prime 3?
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voltch | Posted 3/7/2009 2:02:40 PM | message detail
VIII is gonna have it's brief moment to shine this contest,who else thinks it can land higher than 10 in the Xsts?

Squall>Auron/Tidus/yuna/rikku,but X's cast>>>>VIII,this will decide the real number 2 in the franchise,VI,VIII,X are in a competition against themselves.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 3/7/2009 2:13:48 PM | message detail
Smash did alright in series despite only having the original and Melee at the time, and I think this was even before Brawl-hype surfaced. Yeah, games =/= series and all, If the series did well on brand name alone for a series with only two games, surely the original has to have some strength of its own, or else Smash the series would've been weaker.

Still a tough one to call.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/7/2009 2:17:16 PM | message detail
BioShock
LittleBigPlanet
Metal Gear Solid 4
Portal

So who gets second?

MGS4/LBP probably share too much, so I go with Portal since Glados (whatever screw caps) did as good as Big Daddy almost... which is stupid.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/7/2009 2:22:38 PM | message detail
and then....

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2990
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/7/2009 2:25:09 PM | message detail
charmander6000 Talks About the Bracket v1.0: 1989-1991 Division

The second division continues with the domination of Nintendo, many classic series being released and ends with the beginning of the SNES and a new challenger approaching. Arcades also begin their downward spiral as home console/PC games become more popular.

Castlevania III
Dragon Warrior III
Sonic the Hedgehog
Street Fighter II

Quite an interesting match we have here, first we have a Castlevania game that is not Symphony of the Night. If there was any justice Castlevania III will be the second strongest Castlevania game though sadly one of the newer Castlevania games will probably take that credit, not that we’ll ever know. It’s nice to see a Dragon Warrior game in the contest, but like in the series contest it will probably be crushed in this match. The real fight is between Sonic 1 and Street Fighter II. Street Fighter II lost to Super Mario RPG in the first contest though with the long awaited release of Street Fighter IV it’s possible that SFII is relevant enough to defeat Sonic 1. I also believe that Sonic 1 is weaker than Sonic 2 and 3 which helps me with this decision. The winner of Sonic/SFII will move along to the division finals where it will lose.

SimCity
Super Mario Bros. 3
Tecmo Super Bowl
Secret of Monkey Island

Well besides the crushing win Super Mario Bros. 3 is going to get I have no idea how this match is going to go. Our combined knowledge of the other three games is Guybrush. With that said Secret of Monkey Island probably won’t make it to the next round. Personally I’d give SimCity the advantage going in, remember when Madden was crushed in the series contest. It won’t be that bad, but I don’t see sport games having much strength. In future rounds SMB3 should take this division with relative ease while SimCity will probably lose in the next round.

Battletoads
Final Fantasy
Prince of Persia
Super Mario World

Battletoads made it into the contest, all right. Too bad it’ll come in last though, it may have been hard, but I had fun playing it at my friend’s house. Like Ninja Gaiden Prince of Persia will be using the newer games in the series to its advantage sadly there’s another game in this match using the same tactic expect it’s from a much more popular series, Final Fantasy. Super Mario World doesn’t need the franchise vote to do well in this match and while it’ll meet with its superior in the division finals there isn’t much stopping from taking second if SFF is kept to an acceptable level.

Crystalis
Final Fantasy II (IV)
Mega Man 3
River City Ransom

I’m not surprised that River City Ransom was able to return, it may have not been strong, but it did have a strong though small fanbase. Remember when RCR > Pong was a big upset pick. Crystalis also has a cult following and the match for last place should be interesting between them. In my opinion I think Mega Man 2 is a stronger game than 3 though that won’t matter much in this match. Next round it would be useful for sneaking second against two Final Fantasy games. Final Fantasy IV should take first in this match and next round it should place ahead of the original in the hierarchy of Final Fantasy games.

The favourites are SMB3 and SMW though unlike the first division there are some competition should the SFF become severe. Final Fantasy IV is the favourite for the upset though Street Fighter II could potentially take it. I have doubts for Sonic 1 because last time we witnessed SMW dismantling Sonic 2.

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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 3/7/2009 2:28:31 PM | message detail
Another tough match. GlaDOS is more jokey than Big Daddy, and Orange Box includes HL2 and TF2, though Portal probably has the biggest support of the bunch. I could see Bioshock potentially getting second, and LBP certainly seems strong on this site.

I'm going MGS4/Portal because Portal benefits from both being a legitimately fun and popular game and having a joke backing on top of that.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 3/7/2009 2:33:09 PM | message detail
Go TLoZ/LttP/OoT/TP final, redeem all the Zeldas missing F4!

WW gets no redemption. :/
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Xuxon | Posted 3/7/2009 2:56:35 PM | message detail
hmm... am I crazy for these picks?

Super Smash Bros. Brawl > Grand Theft Auto IV
Super Mario Galaxy > Call of Duty 4
Metal Gear Solid 4 > BioShock
Fallout 3 > Halo 3

Super Mario Galaxy > Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Metal Gear Solid 4 > Fallout 3

Metal Gear Solid 4 > Fallout 3
MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/7/2009 2:59:35 PM | message detail
All seem reasonable to me.

I can see why you'd think Fallout 3 would beat both Brawl and Galaxy together, but for some reason I just don't expect much out of Brawl period. Galaxy on the other hand..


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charmander6000 | Posted 3/7/2009 3:09:07 PM | message detail
charmander6000 Talks About the Bracket v1.0: 1992-1994 Division

These years were known as the Nintendo vs. Sega years. Sonic was established as Sega’s mascot attempting to dethrone Nintendo’s Mario as King of Games. During this era both Nintendo and Sega attempt to up one the other by producing many quality games. Ultimately Nintendo won, but Sega did give it a good run for its money.

Gunstar Heroes
Sonic the Hedgehog 3
Super Mario Kart
Super Metroid

Gunstar Heroes, how did that return? In the previous game contest it was one of two games that failed to break 10%. Link to the Past may be a strong game, but most games in this division would probably break 10%. Personally Sonic 3 should be replaced with Sonic 3 & Knuckles and hopefully that is one of the changes Bacon makes. Despite that Sonic 3 is in a great position at making it to the next round as Super Mario Kart and Super Metroid will leech off of each other. Super Metroid will probably defeat Super Mario Kart though the win will be shallow due to Link to the Past is up in the next round ready to crush Super Metroid like it did last contest.

Donkey Kong Country
Doom
Streets of Rage II
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past

I was quite surprise to see Donkey Kong Country making the bracket especially with all the rallying that went on trying to get DKC2. Since it was made in 1995 it would be placed in the next division though there are a few games that I won’t mind dropping out so DKC2 can take its place. The worst thing about DKC is that it’s in the same match as Link to the Past and if anyone remembered LoZ/DK DKC would need a miracle in order to advance. In light of this SFF Doom will sneak to the next round which in my opinion isn’t a big deal and if anything the game should get more recognition than it has, too bad GameFAQs hates PC games and FPS. As expected LttP will easily destroy this pack on route to winning the division while Streets of Rage II will go the way of Gunstar Heroes.

Final Fantasy III (VI)
Mega Man X
Phantasy Star IV
The Legend of Zelda: Link’s Awakening

Final Fantasy VI is in competition for being the second strongest Final Fantasy and should have no problems taking second and may steal first if Link’s Awakening decides to be stronger than expected. Out of the seven LoZ titles in this contest I expect Link’s Awakening to be the weakest of the lot, that doesn’t mean the game is fodder and really I wouldn’t be surprised if it gives Mega Man X a run for its money. Still Mega Man X should be the favourite and it will be interesting to where it stands compare to Mega Man 2 and 3. Phantasy Star IV was crushed by Super Metroid in the first contest, so don’t expect it to do much.

Secret of Mana
Shining Force II
Sonic the Hedgehog 2
Super Street Fighter II Turbo

What’s Super Street Fighter II Turbo doing in this contest? We already have Street Fighter II which funny enough is also going against a Sonic game. If a game should be replaced it’s that one. If anyone remembers the original Shining Force was destroyed by Sonic 2 while Secret of Mana also met the same fate against Chrono Trigger so don’t expect much from those two games. In the other Sonic/SF match I had SFII defeating Sonic 1 though this time I’m really confident that Sonic 2 will take this match no problem. Personally I would take Sonic 2 over Street Fighter II so what hope does Turbo have?

The final match will be a bit boring unless Link’s Awakening has an amazing run. However this division has a bunch of interesting round 1 matches plus MMX/Sonic 2. As we continue through time the matches are becoming increasingly more interesting.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/7/2009 3:36:13 PM | message detail
Anybody else liking Mega Man 2 to win that first division? Will be MM2/LoZ/SMB/Tetris likely in the finals

Only problem I see off the bat is Starcraft getting wasted against FF8/SSB
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 3/7/2009 3:39:03 PM | message detail
I'd love to see Mega Man 2 pull it off, and I know I'd take more than a few favoritism-based upsets should this be the final bracket, but I'm not holding my breath.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/7/2009 3:47:33 PM | message detail
Aside from that, this bracket seem REALLY underwhelming, and it combines the SFF/boring matches of the generational divisions with the exploitation/shot in the dark nature of 4-ways. This will be the lowest scoring bracket of all time and the winner will be some random who got lucky with the SFF matches.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/7/2009 3:52:48 PM | message detail
I'm pretty sure Mega Man will take a beating from those two bigger NES titles.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/7/2009 3:57:02 PM | message detail
lol sff

And I just read his post in that other topic. If he wanted to have a lot of games, why didn't he use my idea of having a 4-way first round, then 1v1 for the rest of the contest?
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/7/2009 4:03:15 PM | message detail
charmander6000 Talks About the Bracket v1.0: 1995-1997 Division

We’ve now reached the end of the SNES/GEN battle and a new generation is beginning, however unlike the previous generation Sony took the lead of the console race and never looked back mostly because of several third party companies being angry at Nintendo’s policies. That didn’t stop Nintendo from making quality games.

Fallout
GoldenEye 007
Resident Evil 2
Super Mario RPG

I think this is the easiest match that I had to predict so far. Fallout may get a slight boost from the release of Fallout 3 though it will be nowhere in contention with Resident Evil 2. Resident Evil 2 while a great deal stronger than the original Resident Evil may come close to Super Mario RPG though it will be far away enough that it won’t threaten it. In turn SMRPG is far away enough to prevent GoldenEye 007 from losing. GoldenEye 007 will continue its run until it runs face first into Chrono Trigger in round 3.

Final Fantasy VII
Mario Kart 64
Star Fox 64
Suikoden

Final Fantasy VII being the previous contest champion will take first no problem and last contest Suikoden II was crushed by FFVII and it’s expected that Suikoden will do the same. Between Mario Kart 64 and Star Fox 64 the advantage has to go to Mario Kart 64 as it is higher on the Nintendo 64 hierarchy. In later rounds Final Fantasy will steam roll through everything on route to winning this division while Mario Kart 64 meets SMRPG effectively ending both of their contest runs.

Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Kirby Super Star
Resident Evil
Super Mario 64

Last year Super Mario 64 was given the short end of the stick and was basically fed to Ocarina of Time. This year it will finally get its chance to show how strong of a game it is. Kirby Super Star picked the wrong match to be in and is pretty much fodder meat. Resident Evil was crushed in the previous contest and while it should perform better I don’t see it outdoing Castlevania. If SM64 is as strong as what the board expect it should have no problems reaching the division finals before running into a wall known as the FFVII/CT combo.

Chrono Trigger
Earthbound
Lufia II
Super Mario World 2: Yoshi’s Island

Chrono Trigger may have been the third strongest game last contest, but all eyes are on it and many people are expecting it to be weaker than it was in 2004. Sure Chrono Trigger DS may have stopped the bleeding, but to many people the damage is done. Lufia II making the bracket was a surprise though it doesn’t have much of a chance in this division, or for most divisions in that matter. Earthbound was hyped to defeat Doom last contest and failed to do so and with Yoshi’s Island being higher up on the SNES hierarchy it’s only expected that YI will walk through.

Two of the strongest games in the bracket are in this division and there is little doubt that FFVII and CT will cruise through the division. If all goes well Super Mario 64 will have its match against GoldenEye 007 to see who really is the second strongest Nintendo 64 game.

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Xuxon | Posted 3/7/2009 4:20:02 PM | message detail
Honestly, I'm not sure MM3 can beat FF4 with FF1 in the poll. MM2 is going to get destroyed by Mario and Zelda.
charmander6000 | Posted 3/7/2009 4:50:07 PM | message detail
charmander6000 Talks About the Bracket v1.0: 1998-2000 Division

The PS/N64 era continues with the Saturn hanging in there. The Playstation continues to extend its lead gaining sales higher than seen before. Still great games from both sides are made and even the Sega Saturn spews out a few gems here and there. By the end of 2000 the PS2 is released with both Nintendo and Microsoft releasing their consoles in the following year.

Banjo-Kazooie
Perfect Dark
Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask

Well here’s an interesting match. Even if it’s not the strongest Zelda game I don’t see much of a reason why Majora’s Mask won’t take first in this match. It should take advantage of the Nintendo SFF though in round 2 it may be because of the Nintendo game that it will fail to proceed to the division finals. Banjo-Kazooie could have some strength, but we’ll never know due to bracket placement. The main debate is between Pokemon and Perfect Dark. Perfect Dark looked semi good against Castlevania: SotN, but Pokemon has come a long way since its day in 2004.

Final Fantasy Tactics
Metal Gear Solid
Panzer Dragoon Saga
Pokemon Gold/Silver

Anyone remember MGS/FFT back in the first contest. It probably won’t go that way; Metal Gear Solid has come a long way since its dark day in 2004. It’s interesting to see Panzer Dragoon Saga return after its embarrassing defeat, but somebody has to come last. Pokemon G/S may be stronger since 2004, but I don’t believe it has gone from losing to Xenogears to defeating FFT in five years, it could be close, but I don’t see it winning. Metal Gear Solid has a good chance at coming out of this division though it is going to have some competition in the name of Starcraft.

Final Fantasy VIII
Starcraft
Super Smash Bros.
Xenogears

Starcraft was the dark horse in the previous contest though this time we are expecting great things from it and its rallies. In 2004 Starcraft had tougher opponents than these games so it will be surprising to see it miss first. Not much is expected from Xenogears especially since it’s stuck against Final Fantasy VIII. Final Fantasy VIII was the biggest game missing from the first contest due to game caps and now it has its chance to show what it can do. Super Smash Bros. may be an upset pick for some people, but when you really think about it the original game was never as popular as Melee and in a console with many party games Smash was never on top of the list.

Chrono Cross
Final Fantasy IX
Half-Life
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time

Ocarina of Time, the true runner-up of the last contest, had there have been a games contest before this one I wouldn’t be surprised to see Ocarina of Time winning the entire contest, however with Nintendo’s popularity dropping it’s possible that Ocarina of Time took a step back behind Final Fantasy VII. Half-Life had an amazing performance last time and has an excellent chance at defeating FFIX, especially with Chrono Cross in the mix. If anything Half-Life should be considered the favourite going into the match.

Ocarina of Time will also waltz right through this division while Starcraft and Metal Gear Solid will battle it out. If Starcraft was as strong in rallying as it was in 2004 it shouldn’t have a problem beating Metal Gear Solid in this format. Starcraft should be the favourite going in.

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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 3/7/2009 5:09:50 PM | message detail
BioShock
LittleBigPlanet
Metal Gear Solid 4
Portal

So who gets second?

MGS4/LBP probably share too much, so I go with Portal since Glados (whatever screw caps) did as good as Big Daddy almost... which is stupid.


I'm predicting Metal Gear Solid 4 > LittleBigPlanet here.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/7/2009 5:14:00 PM | message detail
but don't MGS4/LBP share too much of the same console?

Not to mention that I'd barely take LBP over those two games anyway..
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Xuxon | Posted 3/7/2009 5:15:56 PM | message detail
Bioshock for second. It did almost as well as the entire orange box, and LBP is console'd out.
MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/7/2009 5:39:28 PM | message detail
and wasn't Bioshock held back by CoD4 in that poll?

All it has to do is beat a portion of the Orange Box.
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 3/7/2009 5:51:48 PM | message detail
MGS4 > BioShock is a lock.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/7/2009 7:02:43 PM | message detail
Heh, just noticed the 2 worst RPGs ever made are in the same fourpack as OoT and a mid-carder game that will likely advance over them

Fantastico
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SonicRaptor | Posted 3/7/2009 7:27:38 PM | message detail

From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #338
Heh, just noticed the 2 worst RPGs ever made are in the same fourpack as OoT and a mid-carder game that will likely advance over them

Fantastico


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SonicRaptor | Posted 3/7/2009 7:28:11 PM | message detail
I also like how all three PS2 GTA games made it into the bracket.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/7/2009 7:44:46 PM | message detail
This topic is surprisingly sparse given the day's events
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Xuxon | Posted 3/7/2009 7:48:07 PM | message detail
I thought your bold prediction was that FF9 will advance?
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/7/2009 7:49:42 PM | message detail
I didn't realize Chrono Cross was there
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/7/2009 7:51:57 PM | message detail
Halo 2
Metal Gear Solid 3
Okami
World of Warcraft

Oh man, just noticed this little gem. WoW against the most love/hate MGS game and the least liked Halo game

Get the upset train rolling
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/7/2009 7:52:34 PM | message detail
I think you got the numbers switched on the Halo and MGS there.
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Xuxon | Posted 3/7/2009 7:52:41 PM | message detail
I have WoW finishing first in that match <_<
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/7/2009 8:34:11 PM | message detail
Halo 3 was the most played game on XBL for the longest time, and might be again now that CoD4 has dropped off.
2 was a terrible sequel in that it added nothing to the original. The campaigns were identical and XBL support was the only major improvement. Plus 2 nerfed the pistol.

And MGS3 would have been a great game if not for all the unnecessarily obnoxious "real life events" that completely ruined the game. Not to mention the 1-dimensional charcters in a series known for having deep, awesome characters. MGS2 is the best in the franchise for those reasons.
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Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1
LeonhartFour | Posted 3/7/2009 9:01:09 PM | message detail
Naked Snake is the deepest character in the series, and The Boss is right behind. Only MGS4 Ocelot is better than MGS3 Ocelot.

Get out.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/7/2009 10:08:14 PM | message detail
charmander6000 Talks About the Bracket v1.0: 2001-2003 Division

The PS/N64/Saturn generation comes to an end and the PS2/Xbox/Gamecube generation begins. During this time Sega files for bankruptcy effectively ending their console producing career and killing off the Dreamcast. Like the previous generation Sony created a huge lead while Nintendo and Microsoft fought for second place. Either way great games were made all around.

Final Fantasy X
Metal Gear Solid 2
Silent Hill 2
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind

Hey guys does this division remind you of anything? The 128-bit bracket with lower tier games replaced and Starcraft replaced by Diablo II. This seems like an easy match, Final Fantasy X was one of the strongest games in the 128-bit division and Metal Gear Solid 2, despite losing in the first round still performed well. Morrowind isn’t as famous as Oblivion and the Silent Hill series isn’t popular enough to take on FFX and MGS2. Like the 128-bit bracket this is going to be hard to predict and really it is going to come down to which games are in the division finals.

Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
Kingdom Hearts
Metroid Prime
Paper Mario

All three games were relative in strength back in 2004. Sadly when you throw Paper Mario into the mix Metroid Prime all of the sudden falls out of the mix and it becomes a race between which game has aged better. With the release of San Andreas and the performance of Tommy Vercetti over the past few contest things don’t look great for VC. On the other hand Kingdom Hearts seem to have gained more popularity since 2004. Either way winner of this match goes to the division finals where they’ll surely lose.

Diablo II: Lord of Destruction
Grand Theft Auto III
Halo: Combat Evolved
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic

Blizzard alert, I can see Diablo II having Starcraft like performances and with Halo being tied down by KotOR we could possibly have a first place finishing. Diablo II could have multiple different paths, it could lose in round one or it can finish first in the division before running into Starcraft itself. GTAIII is here just for the sake of saying that we have all three GTA’s in the contest. While I love the game I don’t see it doing any better than Vice City.

Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
Golden Sun
Super Smash Bros. Melee
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker

This is an easy match though it is mostly because it was heavily discussed back after the 2004 contest. Disgaea and Golden Sun will be nothing more than spectators in this match. The logic behind this match is that it is basically Wind Waker Link vs. every single Nintendo character. Melee has aged well and I don’t see how Wind Waker can compete. What’s interesting for Melee is that its future in this contest depends on when Wind Waker is eliminated.

There are a lot of possibilities in this division and while the favourite is Melee > FFX, Diablo II, Halo and Kingdom Hearts all have reasons of surviving the division and really it all depends when Wind Waker is eliminated and if Diablo can get a big enough rally to start taking on the big games.

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Congratulations to FastFalcon for winning the guru contest, you are the best among the best.
ZFS | Posted 3/7/2009 10:08:52 PM | message detail
Leon knows

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