GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 654
| HaRRicH | Posted 3/6/2009 11:53:36 PM | message detail |
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No caps, please. CB-2004 showed that caps don't prevent SFF-fests, and this format will always have more SFF/LFF than we like. --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/7/2009 12:07:52 AM | message detail |
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HaRR, I think you're still forgetting Space Invaders in that match. It
most likely will split with DK, and though I'd take DK over Tyson
one-on-one, it being the sole NES game has to mean something. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| voltch | Posted 3/7/2009 12:11:46 AM | message detail |
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EEEEEEWWWW,Generation Divide AND 4-way,also this is one hell of a bad bracket. --- Pearl FC:3953 0978 7217 |
| transcience | Posted 3/7/2009 12:12:14 AM | message detail |
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yeah I don't think it's a good idea. it just solves the SFF problems. the real problem with 2004 wasn't the caps, anyway. it was the awful bracket setup. --- xyzzy STREET FIGHTER 4, SON http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvPKGSk13zo |
| voltch | Posted 3/7/2009 12:21:02 AM | message detail |
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When checking the bracket a little more,it does somehow feel like we're
missing a lot of games,the upper half is so clearly unbalanced compared
to the lower half that we'll go through cycles waiting for those
matches to end. but what are the main snubs anyway? --- Pearl FC:3953 0978 7217 |
| Masato_Tanaka | Posted 3/7/2009 12:24:51 AM | message detail |
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SFIV DKC2 To be honest I don't see too many snubs --- The Straight Up G The Palace of Wisdom Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| ZFS | Posted 3/7/2009 12:25:46 AM | message detail |
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There aren't any major snubs in this, I don't think. You've got all the big games covered at least. --- http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/3006/wtfcrono.jpg |
| voltch | Posted 3/7/2009 12:30:29 AM | message detail |
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looking at mtches towards the ned my fears of last year are getting realised. ew,Iwas only joking when mentioning the possiblity of 4-way games being SMG/SMW/SM64/SMB3,but now we get LttP stcuk with 3 square games. even worse are the number 2 games which might just get dragged for loads of rounds cos even if they are weaker the generation before or after has a good chance of being weaker. --- Pearl FC:3953 0978 7217 |
| Masato_Tanaka | Posted 3/7/2009 12:31:17 AM | message detail |
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I think some of you are just complaining for the sake of complaining >_> --- The Straight Up G The Palace of Wisdom Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| voltch | Posted 3/7/2009 12:40:22 AM | message detail |
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O RLY? --- Pearl FC:3953 0978 7217 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 3/7/2009 12:42:44 AM | message detail |
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Being the sole purely-NES game may help PO a little bit, why not, but
DK and Tetris were also on the NES. If you're an old NES-game that
wasn't from a recognizable series, I don't know how well you're going
to stand against Tetris and Donkey Kong on their turf. Space Invaders
shouldn't mess up anything too bad in that match. --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
| voltch | Posted 3/7/2009 12:46:16 AM | message detail |
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one thing's for sure,we're gonna get a ton of kirby scenarios,round 1
KHII sticks out lick a sore thumb from the darker Gears,RE4 and SotC. --- Pearl FC:3953 0978 7217 |
| charmander6000 | Posted 3/7/2009 1:47:37 AM | message detail |
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I just came home from a party to see... this. I'll discuss it tomorrow. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls Congratulations to FastFalcon for winning the guru contest, you are the best among the best. |
| voltch | Posted 3/7/2009 2:00:32 AM | message detail |
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Fallout 3 Halo 3 Left 4 Dead Mass Effect what kind of match is this.....would be better to place em elsewhere in their division. --- Pearl FC:3953 0978 7217 |
| AndrewWarner | Posted 3/7/2009 2:21:03 AM | message detail |
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Fallout 3 Halo 3 Left 4 Dead Mass Effect what kind of match is this.....would be better to place em elsewhere in their division. I noticed this straight away, probably my 3 favourite games of last year, all in one 1st round battle.....*sigh*. --- The man in black fled across the desert, and the gunslinger (AKA FastFalcon) followed. |
| -LusterSoldier- | Posted 3/7/2009 3:27:58 AM | message detail |
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I've made some early round 1 predictions right now. Tetris > Space Invaders > Donkey Kong > Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!! Mega Man 2 > Pac-Man > Pong > The Oregon Trail Super Mario Bros. > Ninja Gaiden > Duck Hunt > Galaga The Legend of Zelda > Contra > Metroid > Civilization For the Tetris match, I'm hoping that Donkey Kong (the game) will also choke badly like Donkey Kong (the character), which should give Space Invaders second place. Sonic the Hedgehog > Street Fighter II > Castlevania III > Dragon Warrior III Super Mario Bros. 3 > Tecmo Super Bowl > SimCity > Secret of Monkey Island Super Mario World > Final Fantasy > Prince of Persia > Battletoads Mega Man 3 > Final Fantasy II (IV) > Crystalis > River City Ransom In the SMB3 match, it's quite clear that it has first place. From there, it's really anyone's guess as to who finishes in second. No past data exists on the other 3 games in a contest format. Super Metroid > Sonic the Hedgehog 3 > Super Mario Kart > Gunstar Heroes Zelda: A Link to the Past > Donkey Kong Country > Doom > Streets of Rage II Final Fantasy III (VI) > Mega Man X > Zelda: Link's Awakening > Phantasy Star IV Sonic the Hedgehog 2 > Secret of Mana > Shining Force II > S.Street Fighter II Turbo Super Mario RPG > GoldenEye 007 > Resident Evil 2 > Fallout Final Fantasy VII > Star Fox 64 > Mario Kart 64 > Suikoden Super Mario 64 > Kirby Super Star > Castlevania: Symphony > Resident Evil Chrono Trigger > Earthbound > SMW2: Yoshi's Island > Lufia II Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow > Zelda: Majora's Mask > Perfect Dark > Banjo-Kazooie Metal Gear Solid > Final Fantasy Tactics > Pokemon Gold/Silver > Panzer Dragoon Saga Final Fantasy VIII > Starcraft > Super Smash Bros. > Xenogears Zelda: Ocarina of Time > Half-Life > Final Fantasy IX > Chrono Cross Final Fantasy X > Metal Gear Solid 2 > Silent Hill 2 > TES III: Morrowind Metroid Prime > Kingdom Hearts > GTA: Vice City > Paper Mario Halo: Combat Evolved > Star Wars: KOTOR > Diablo II: LoD > Grand Theft Auto III Super Smash Bros. Melee > Zelda: Wind Waker > Disgaea: Hour of Darkness > Golden Sun GTA: San Andreas > God of War > Tales of Symphonia > TES IV: Oblivion Metal Gear Solid 3 > World of Warcraft > Halo 2 > Okami Resident Evil 4 > Kingdom Hearts II > Gears of War > Shadow of the Colossus Zelda: Twilight Princess > Half-Life 2 > Phoenix Wright > Final Fantasy XII Super Smash Bros. Brawl > Grand Theft Auto IV > Persona 4 > The World Ends With You Super Mario Galaxy > Pokemon Diamond/Pearl > Call of Duty 4 > Team Fortress 2 Metal Gear Solid 4 > LittleBigPlanet > Portal > BioShock Fallout 3 > Halo 3 > Left 4 Dead > Mass Effect --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but still not as cool as FastFalcon05, Guru Champ! |
| jonthomson | Posted 3/7/2009 4:31:20 AM | message detail |
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omg omg omg bracket, will look at it in a couple of hours when i'm done multitabling --- Jon Thomson - 1:10 pure 1:43 100% - HKP: 179 Super Metroid's Path To Glory: R0 - Getting nominations (hint) |
| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/7/2009 6:35:58 AM | message detail |
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I'm not even excited about this, thanks to another bad format. Neither am I. Division by generations AND 4-ways?!? Boo. --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/7/2009 6:39:42 AM | message detail |
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| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/7/2009 6:47:10 AM | message detail |
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Heh, goes to show that I should pay attention more... --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
| Xcarvenger | Posted 3/7/2009 6:57:45 AM | message detail |
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"1998-2000" division is so bad. I mean what. 2 Pokemon? 2 Zelda? 3 Final Fantasy? geez It was obviously arranged so that FFVII and OoT are in a separate half of the bracket (or at least not in the same division) This will not happen if we don't use these limiting era divisions !! --- ~~> www.board8.wikia.com ~ The source for all your GameFAQs Contests needs. Condition: Green |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 3/7/2009 7:39:23 AM | message detail |
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From: HaRRicH | #261 Punch-Out!! first appeared in arcades before the NES. Not that it matters since only like five people actually know that, and it was really a different game whose mechanics more resemble Super Punch-Out!! than the NES one. Last one is just trivia for the brain. Anyway, I like LttP making the finals. I don't care if OoT won't win now, because it wouldn't win anyway, and I'm not even a fan of OoT. I'm just glad LttP will at least enjoy the finals spotlight the way Crono did this year as a reward for thwarting L-Block. --- http://l33trappacat.blogspot.com/ |
| Gaddswell | Posted 3/7/2009 8:58:19 AM | message detail |
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Oh hey, it actually came out! Hmm.... 4-ways? Aww, generation splits? Damn, no Fire Emblem. Well, San Andreas / ToS sounds fun! --- http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u205/MapleMasta/IkeClimbers2.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDaGWrPcjb8 |
| charmander6000 | Posted 3/7/2009 9:04:50 AM | message detail |
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charmander6000 Talks About the Bracket v1.0: Introduction Well as everyone has noticed we have a 4-way 128 game bracket seperated into divisions. As angry as everyone is about the format 4-ways really was the only logical way of doing this. Sure I and many others tried to deny it, but deep down we knew that this contest will be 4-ways. If we had one vs one with 128 games it would take us four months just to complete the contest and if we had only 64 games a series cap would have to be in place or this would become boring if your favourite series wasn't GameFAQs' favourite. The generation split caught me off-guard though I do find it interesthing that after the first division every three years only 16 games were nominated in the top 128 what a coincidence. >_> I'm guessing Bacon chosed this format to avoid same series match-up, but ultimately he fails due to some series releasing games within year apart and really he could have achieved the same effect by building the bracket "smart" In a surprisingly twist Bacon has given us the ability to remove a game and add another one. Taking a quick look the only major game missing is DKC2 and maybe a Fire Emblem I don't see the point of this. Before discussing each division I'll give a list of the number of games in each series, things like FFT and Mario sports/RPG are included with the main series. Mario - 10 Final Fantasy - 9 Zelda - 7 Metal Gear - 4 Grand Theft Auto - 4 Metroid - 3 Sonic - 3 Halo - 3 Smash Bros - 3 Pokemon - 3 Resident Evil - 3 Street Fighter - 2 Castlevania - 2 Mega Man - 2 Chrono - 2 Fallout - 2 Kingdom Hearts - 2 The Elder Scrolls - 2 Half- Life - 2 --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls Congratulations to FastFalcon for winning the guru contest, you are the best among the best. |
| Gaddswell | Posted 3/7/2009 9:09:13 AM | message detail |
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Oh, I just saw Halo vs Diablo 2. It's gonna be Starcraft all over again, huh? --- http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u205/MapleMasta/IkeClimbers2.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDaGWrPcjb8 |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/7/2009 9:43:00 AM | message detail |
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From: HaRRicH | #261 I would bet DK was mainly played in the arcades and Tetris was mainly played on GB or something other than NES. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 3/7/2009 10:39:17 AM | message detail |
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So, are there any Add/Remove topics people here are particularly
passionate about? Because I've seen a few interesting ones but none
where I think a game must absolutely be added. --- http://l33trappacat.blogspot.com/ |
| Warning_Cmexy | Posted 3/7/2009 10:41:09 AM | message detail |
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isn't there an option in feedback to suggest a potd? --- Warning_Crazy Back and better then ever http://card.mygamercard.net/sig/wartank777.png |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 3/7/2009 10:42:07 AM | message detail |
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/feedback/index.php?type=18 --- http://l33trappacat.blogspot.com/ |
| TheOceIot | Posted 3/7/2009 10:42:19 AM | message detail |
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Mario - 10 Final Fantasy - 9 Zelda - 7 YA GREAT BRACKET ALLEN SO FUN. glad you made it 4-ways so we could get even more Mario and FF games into the contest while lots of games still get snubbed because of stupid generational divide --- What's quicker than an Ocelot? A FastFalcon http://img.imgcake.com/ducks1.jpg |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 3/7/2009 10:44:14 AM | message detail |
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From: TheOceIot | #281 What games got snubbed, exactly? I think the bracket does a good job encompassing all the major games you'd want in this contest. --- http://l33trappacat.blogspot.com/ |
| TheOceIot | Posted 3/7/2009 10:47:43 AM | message detail |
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Maybe on consolefaqs. --- What's quicker than an Ocelot? A FastFalcon http://img.imgcake.com/ducks1.jpg |
| CasanovaZelos | Posted 3/7/2009 10:49:14 AM | message detail |
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I'm very passionate about my RCT one. It's the only one of my
nominations that didn't get in, and the PC needs more support on this
site. The games contest is the only place PC ever seems to get a chance
to shine on. --- Recent Watches: Duck Soup, 8.7; The Incredibles, 8.4; All About Eve, 9.3 *Owned by FastFalcon in the Guru Contest* |
| charmander6000 | Posted 3/7/2009 10:50:39 AM | message detail |
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YA GREAT BRACKET ALLEN SO FUN. glad you made it 4-ways so we could
get even more Mario and FF games into the contest while lots of games
still get snubbed because of stupid generational divide You do know had the bracket been 64 games with no caps other games would be more likely to get the boot than Mario/FF/Zelda. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls Congratulations to FastFalcon for winning the guru contest, you are the best among the best. |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 3/7/2009 10:50:43 AM | message detail |
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From: TheOceIot | #283 What did you expect? PC games suck here. If it's not Blizzard, expect it to bomb. Though I also wish PC games weren't jokes on this site, but what can you do. --- http://l33trappacat.blogspot.com/ |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 3/7/2009 10:57:36 AM | message detail |
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I took my first in-depth look at the bracket late last night, and I
still think this could be fun. As most people have already expressed,
1v1 would have been the ideal scenario, but abolishing eras and
switching some things around could still make for a good contest. Eras
need to be gone, though. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/8zkzm1.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| voltch | Posted 3/7/2009 11:02:28 AM | message detail |
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there really would be no problem if the early rounds were done with 2 matches in a day. --- Pearl FC:3953 0978 7217 |
| charmander6000 | Posted 3/7/2009 11:31:49 AM | message detail |
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Super Mario Bros. The Legend of Zelda Super Mario Bros. 3 Super Mario World Does Zelda take first? --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls Congratulations to FastFalcon for winning the guru contest, you are the best among the best. |
| transience | Posted 3/7/2009 11:33:16 AM | message detail |
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now that I'm done haxing the bracket into something decent, I'm gonna
work on a bracket without limitations. let's see how this goes. --- xyzzy STREET FIGHTER 4, SON http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvPKGSk13zo |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 3/7/2009 11:34:59 AM | message detail |
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I discussed that in my topic about the bracket. It's got a shot. If
that match happens, I'll be very interested to see how many people
prefer the original Legend of Zelda over three of the biggest Mario
games. Something tells me it won't be a large number. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| voltch | Posted 3/7/2009 11:40:06 AM | message detail |
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that's tyhe kind of match we ough to avoid having. --- Pearl FC:3953 0978 7217 |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/7/2009 11:52:05 AM | message detail |
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From: M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted: 3/7/2009 12:39:17 PM | #278 Donkey Kong Country 2 --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Diablo 2, Lunar: SSSC |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 3/7/2009 11:53:45 AM | message detail |
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Replacing Super Street Fighter II with Mortal Kombat II is another
pretty big one, and so is the request to combine Sonic 3 with Sonic
& Knuckles for one game. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/7/2009 11:57:33 AM | message detail |
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Removing the other version of SF2 seems like the biggest one, as is my request for mixing formats. --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Diablo 2, Lunar: SSSC |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/7/2009 11:58:22 AM | message detail |
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Oh, would anyone have a problem with me removing the two poll scripts from the first post? They're vastly unnecessary. --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Diablo 2, Lunar: SSSC |
| charmander6000 | Posted 3/7/2009 11:58:32 AM | message detail |
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charmander6000 Talks About the Bracket v1.0: 1972-1988 Division The first division brings us back to the start of gaming, the rise of arcades, past the videogame crash ending with Nintendo at its most dominant time. Many classic series started at this time while many more just couldn’t get their foot quite into the door. Donkey Kong Mike Tyson’s Punch-Out!! Space Invaders Tetris I had to double check to see if Tetris was in the right division, it’s most famous release was in 89 but it had earlier releases. Like in the first contest Tetris is going to rock these old games based on name value before getting crushed itself against another game with even more name value. This pretty much kills any chance Space Invaders had at advancing, though even without Tetris I would be surprised if it avoided last in this group. Donkey Kong went even with Duck Hunt last contest though that may be enough to take on Punch-Out. In future rounds Tetris continues tearing up games with its name value until the division finals while the winner between DK/PO will likely face a loss in round 2. Mega Man 2 Pac-Man Pong The Oregon Trail I also had to check the release date on The Oregon Trail; I guess it is common to forget release dates for games that were made before I was born. It’s nice to see a Mega Man game after both the original and the X series missing out last time. Pong was hit with an unlucky bracket placement and will likely face the same result against Pac-Man as it did against Tetris in the first contest. I’m not too sure what to expect with The Oregon Trail, personally I don’t see it having much strength, but what’s stopping Pac-Man from suffering against Mega Man 2 the same way Pong is going to suffer against Pac-Man. Like Tetris Mega Man 2 has a free ride to the division finals, but it could upset SMB if LoZ decides to SFF it badly. Duck Hunt Galaga Ninja Gaiden Super Mario Bros. Poor Duck Hunt, going against a game it was bundled with means nothing good for its contest future. Super Mario Bros. makes its contest debut after being held back by contest caps though being in generation divisions and having LoZ as its opponent in round 2 means we won’t truly know the extent of its full power. Galaga was crushed in the first contest by Tetris. Ninja Gaiden takes advantage of being relevant and gets an easy second in this match. SMB/LoZ should be interesting to see if there’s any SFF and unless there is I don’t see how SMB will fail to make it out of this division. Civilization Contra Metroid The Legend of Zelda With Super Mario Bros. 3 out of the way there isn’t much stopping The Legend of Zelda from walking through this division, Super Mario Bros. may make things interesting, but ultimately I see LoZ taking that with ease. Like last contest Metroid gets owned by bracket placement. Doing a quick look at the x-stats shows Contra outdid a SFF Metroid though that Metroid was against SMB3. Those two should have an interesting match though I would have preferred if Metroid went up against Mega Man 2 like my games bracket that was organized by eras had (it was made back in 2005). Civilization won’t be much of a threat. In the series contest it was crushed by The Legend of Zelda series and out of the games it’s probably one of the least liked. Like the 8-bit division name recognition is going to be big for some of these games and with this division being the weakest out of the rest it could go a long way. The division final will more or less be LoZ > SMB unless Tetris gets an L-Block-like rally. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls Congratulations to FastFalcon for winning the guru contest, you are the best among the best. |
| charmander6000 | Posted 3/7/2009 12:00:34 PM | message detail |
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Oh, would anyone have a problem with me removing the two poll scripts from the first post? They're vastly unnecessary. Since we have the search function we don't really need it, but if someone objects we should only keep one. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls Congratulations to FastFalcon for winning the guru contest, you are the best among the best. |
| Team Rocket Elite | Posted 3/7/2009 12:08:25 PM | message detail |
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Mine should definitely go since it only has the poll questions in it. And I almost never update it anyways. >_> --- Not even a spread of 105 points would allowed me to defeat FastFalcon05! Congrats on winning the Character Battle 7 Guru Contest! |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/7/2009 12:20:18 PM | message detail |
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Alright. Making a new topic when I get out of the shower, with a tweaked first post. --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Diablo 2, Lunar: SSSC |
