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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 654

KamikazePotato | Posted 3/6/2009 4:10:15 PM | message detail
What? FFIX easily trumps Chrono Cross. Half-Life is a bigger worry.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/6/2009 4:10:59 PM | message detail
That's what I'm saying. LFF will keep it from advancing. Half-Life is pretty decent.

Also, Bacon shot down my request for 1-on-1 pretty quickly.
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ZFS | Posted 3/6/2009 4:11:32 PM | message detail
I think FFIX can rock CC enough to get past original Half-Life, but that could end ugly.

oh well not believing it going with ffix anyway

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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/6/2009 4:12:57 PM | message detail
Point.

Actually, FF8 is in trouble as well. The original SSB is going to have a lot of strength.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/6/2009 4:13:49 PM | message detail
FFVIII can crush Xenogears more than FFIX can crush Chrono Cross, but yeah, it could be in trouble.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 3/6/2009 4:14:27 PM | message detail
Super Mario Bros. 3
Street Fighter II
Super Mario World
Mega Man 3

Mario gets LFF screwed again?
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 3/6/2009 4:16:01 PM | message detail
There are 9 FF games in the bracket atm, including FFT.

Which should we be booting out?
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/6/2009 4:16:48 PM | message detail
none of them
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/6/2009 4:16:49 PM | message detail
None. They're all viable contenders.
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HaRRicH | Posted 3/6/2009 4:16:59 PM | message detail
Well, it's a four-way divided by generation...but at first glance, it looks surprisingly tough despite this. I don't think this will get legit results like SB wanted in the nomination process, but this is still going to be a ton of fun.
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ZFS | Posted 3/6/2009 4:17:16 PM | message detail
I wouldn't be so sure that FFVIII could do that to Xenogears in a four-way, but who knows.

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nintendogirl1 | Posted 3/6/2009 4:18:13 PM | message detail
You seriously see FFII at least as a serious contender?
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ZFS | Posted 3/6/2009 4:18:52 PM | message detail
FFIV? There's no reason to kick it.

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nintendogirl1 | Posted 3/6/2009 4:20:39 PM | message detail
You mean other then the fact that a 2nd round match featuring FF and FFII is a complete dud?
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RPGuy96 | Posted 3/6/2009 4:20:57 PM | message detail
Link to the Past
Final Fantasy VI
Final Fantasy VII
Chrono Trigger

Would you bite on this?
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ZFS | Posted 3/6/2009 4:21:37 PM | message detail
Time to kick Mario Kart since it gets rocked in round 2

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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/6/2009 4:21:46 PM | message detail
Some of these setups are kinda lame, too. MGS/FFT is "cute", but it's just wasted in the actual match. This is gonna be hard to predict, but it'd be just as hard if it was 1v1 - it's been so long since we've had one.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/6/2009 4:21:47 PM | message detail
Hmmm...I hate having to decide 4-ways based on how the SFF falls.
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L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 3/6/2009 4:25:39 PM | message detail
4-way, generational, and filled with SFF?

This sounds like a sick joke, but still one I'm gonna have a good laugh about. All this bracket hype for months and it ends up being pretty disappointing.

4-ways are here to stay!
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YrLordAndSavior | Posted 3/6/2009 4:27:14 PM | message detail
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/6/2009 4:31:05 PM | message detail
Also, initial impressions (subject to the bracket being changed, apparently):

-LoZ and SMB making it so far will be funny
-geez, with SMB3 being a lock to make it as well, there's gonna be a ton of Ninty SFF come the late contest
-FF7 and OoT meet very early again, with Goldeneye holding OoT down, and either MGS or another Final Fantasy holding FF7 down. I mean, both progress until the end of the contest, but that's harsh
-2k4-2k6 is a rorschach blot
-MGS4 has a pretty good chance of taking down SSBB considering the multiple opponents and SMG potentially being there
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HaRRicH | Posted 3/6/2009 4:32:10 PM | message detail
BOLD PREDICTION: with the current bracket, SSBB is eliminated in the second round and SMG doesn't win a match until the division final.
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FFDragon | Posted 3/6/2009 4:36:03 PM | message detail
So what can we remove for Skee Ball?

I'm thinking Space Invaders.
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Yesmar | Posted 3/6/2009 4:39:16 PM | message detail
FF7 and OoT meet very early again, with Goldeneye holding OoT down, and either MGS or another Final Fantasy holding FF7 down. I mean, both progress until the end of the contest, but that's harsh

Aren't the two on opposite ends?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/6/2009 4:40:26 PM | message detail
DKC2 is a shoe-in for a late addition. There's already been around 6 topics asking for it.

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DomaDragoon | Posted 3/6/2009 4:40:43 PM | message detail
BOLD PREDICTION: with the current bracket, SSBB is eliminated in the second round and SMG doesn't win a match until the division final.

Really? You see two games in that group of 8 that could outdraw Brawl, even assuming that it ends up on the wrong end of SFF? I can't see it. Of course, that's why it's a bold prediction.

Bit disappointed at 4-packs, but at least it lets us get a bunch of games in that otherwise wouldn't. I really, REALLY want a 1 on 1 contest next, though.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/6/2009 4:40:46 PM | message detail
Aren't the two on opposite ends?

...hmm. So they are! Well that lays one can of worms to rest.

...and opens up an entirely different other one as I futilely try and gauge who will make it to affect the SFF!
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RPGuy96 | Posted 3/6/2009 4:40:46 PM | message detail
Really early predix:

http://people.rit.edu/~zmb0386/games2009.html
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Master Moltar | Posted 3/6/2009 4:41:04 PM | message detail
*looks at bracket*

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/6/2009 4:42:13 PM | message detail
I'm not even excited about this, thanks to another bad format.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/6/2009 4:42:48 PM | message detail
And this is with user input. Accepting user ideas, but rejecting the one idea we want more than any other? Give me a break.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/6/2009 4:42:52 PM | message detail
Molty, if we stay with the 4way format, I humbly ask to be removed from the Crew. I nominate lefty to take my place.
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L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 3/6/2009 4:43:10 PM | message detail
I think winning this contest will be based purely on blind luck. Yeah, the final will most likely include FF7 and OoT, but what the hell else will make it that far with all that LFF?

This is going to be as hilarious as that time I was winning Guru for a week or two.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/6/2009 4:43:20 PM | message detail
So now I have a... FF7/LttP/OoT/MGS final "augh"
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BombLasagna | Posted 3/6/2009 4:43:33 PM | message detail
so do you really think every MGS game had enough nominations, or do you think they all got in because of the year breakdown?

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AmazingKirby | Posted 3/6/2009 4:44:11 PM | message detail
Hm...this looks extremely boring. Who cares about Pong and stuff? This looks a little too much like BGE 1 and...without the shock and appeal of a new type of contest.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/6/2009 4:44:24 PM | message detail
MGS for the win!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/6/2009 4:44:30 PM | message detail
I know *I* nominated every MGS game! So sure
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HaRRicH | Posted 3/6/2009 4:45:28 PM | message detail
One thing I'm really excited about is the battle for second place between Goldeneye and SM64 in the third round (assuming LFF and C:SotN don't mess things up). =)
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Ngamer64 | Posted 3/6/2009 4:46:09 PM | message detail
Just wow.

"OMG sticky topic, the bracket's up!"

"This is going to be so awesome, I can't- wait, 4 ways? Noooo!"

"Oh well, at least it's not divided by generation. Wait, what's with these year- NOOOOOOOOO!"

That was like getting punched in the gut, THEN slapped across the face.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/6/2009 4:47:25 PM | message detail
Man, at this point I'm trying to see how I can make FF7 lose here. This year could be more Ninty-favorable than 2k6 and it would seem impossible.
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ZFS | Posted 3/6/2009 4:47:31 PM | message detail
Link to the Past
Final Fantasy VI
Final Fantasy VII
Chrono Trigger


Oh man, this is brutal. Poor CT.

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HaRRicH | Posted 3/6/2009 4:51:09 PM | message detail
Haha, at least CT gets to kill FF3/6 like that.....
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Yesmar | Posted 3/6/2009 4:51:33 PM | message detail
OK, instant analysis on the first div:

Donkey Kong
Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!
Space Invaders
Tetris

Tetris is the obvious winner here. Donkey Kong and Punch-Out!! should SFF each other, but I'm not sure if it's enough for Space Invaders to sneak though. I'm honestly not sure which of the two is more popular, I guess I would go with due to name recognition.

Mega Man 2
Pac-Man
Pong
The Oregon Trail

Seems like the obvious choice for me, although Oregon Trail could pull an L-Block and sneak in in second.

Duck Hunt
Galaga
Ninja Gaiden
Super Mario Bros.

Kinda random that Ninja Gaiden gets to the second round, but I would have doubts about Duck Hunt even before SFF comes into play let alone afterwards. Galaga's pretty bad so I'm gonna count it out for now.

Civilization
Contra
Metroid
The Legend of Zelda

We sort of indirectly saw this already back in Sp2004. LoZ isn't up there with SMB3, but will probably still SFF Metroid pretty bad.

Tetris
Donkey Kong
Mega Man 2
Pac-Man

Obvious 2 winners, but somewhat of a crapshoot when it comes to the order.

Super Mario Brothers
Ninja Gaiden
Legend of Zelda
Contra

Same as above, only I went with what I assume will be a sexy upset.

Mega Man 2
Tetris
Super Mario Brothers
The Legend of Zelda

I'm so tempted to take the upset of the two Ninty games massively leeching each other enough for other two to come through instead, but I'm slightly doubtful of that possibility.
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Kamekguy | Posted 3/6/2009 4:51:49 PM | message detail
Alright... uh... my absolutely useless thoughts:

Aww... poor KSS and DKC. DK actually FINALLY gets a quality title in, and it all just falls to pieces. Poor guy. Kirby... just deserved better. One SNES title shoved into three big N64/PSX hits? Aww...

DK Vs Iron Mike looks hilarious. Sure, Little Mac's been worth crap, but it's DK's funny title. Tetris will murder about half of his support, and then they'll be choking for all the marbles.

Disgaea... just... loldisgaea. SSB/Zelda LFF, PLUS Golden Sun, and it's STILL looking like a last-place finisher. Just hilarious.

Paper Mario Vs Metroid Prime looks... uh... interesting and stuff, though Metroid will probably take it down no problem.

Banjo got super screwed.

Uh... good job MGS? But... seriously, all four? Wow...

...why do we need two versions of Street Fighter II?

...yeah, this bracket is really horrid. >_>
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RPGuy96 | Posted 3/6/2009 4:51:57 PM | message detail
I don't think there's any way to keep LttP out of the final - its only competition gets crushed by FFVII in the semis. So the only plausible way Ocarina could win would be FFX coming with it. That's not impossible, but it's probably not happening.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/6/2009 4:53:21 PM | message detail
God of War
GTA: San Andreas
Tales of Symphonia
TES IV: Oblivion

brb, downing enough booze to convince myself to take ToS as an upset.




Done! Symphonia>GTA all the way

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Master Moltar | Posted 3/6/2009 4:53:58 PM | message detail
Looking over the bracket, this thing is impossible.

Don't care as much with 4-ways, but damn
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DomaDragoon | Posted 3/6/2009 4:55:55 PM | message detail
Did we really need all the Halo games... and all the current gen GTAs... and all the MGS games?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 3/6/2009 4:56:07 PM | message detail
Even bringing FFX all the way to the finals (which is actually kinda likely, despite my MGS biases)... you've got a game that splits the FF fanbase *way* less than LttP and OoT divide theirs. I just can't see LttP abandoned in the numbers necessary for OoT to pull it off.
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