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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 654

YoAriel33 | Posted 3/9/2009 3:49:50 PM | message detail
By the way, I'm SO god damned sick of that saveRAT load of BULL****.

PIKACHU CAN'T SAVE ****.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 3/9/2009 3:50:18 PM | message detail
YES I SAID IT AHHHH FINALLY FEELS GOOD
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/9/2009 3:50:25 PM | message detail
I'll give him credit for getting the points to whatever matches...but I'm not going to give him credit for being smart, logical, reasonable, or worthwhile to listen to while he talked about them. Besides, again, I don't think he entirely predicted Pikachu's run.

The only thing I had wrong was him beating Tidus in the first round. I figured it would be a close second place because of Isaac

And all contest I was talking about how the "pokemon is t3h suck" 9 year olds from 2002 were now "omg pokemon is so niche and kawaii!!!!!!!!!111111111" 14 year olds
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/9/2009 3:59:34 PM | message detail
Or that... Pokemon vs Metroid was just a sign of things changing.

Your reasoning still sucked.
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red sox 777 | Posted 3/9/2009 4:29:59 PM | message detail
Pikachu > Ganondorf you say?

.....How does this make Crono look? Good? Okay then, I can get behind this one!
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/9/2009 4:51:42 PM | message detail
Good bracket changes tbqh.
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 3/9/2009 4:52:18 PM | message detail
Mortal Kombat II > S.Street Fighter II Turbo
DKC2 > Fallout
Deus Ex > Panzer Dragoon Saga
Soul Calibur > Smash Bros
Fire Emblem > Golden Sun
SF4 > TWEWY

All changes made.
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ZFS | Posted 3/9/2009 4:55:02 PM | message detail
Good changes for the most part. SSB being ditched for Soul Calibur is pretty bad, just for killing one of the harder matches in the first round, but not bad otherwise.

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TheOceIot | Posted 3/9/2009 4:55:12 PM | message detail
Deus Ex
Final Fantasy Tactics
Metal Gear Solid
Pokemon Gold/Silver

Made my day.
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Master Moltar | Posted 3/9/2009 4:55:39 PM | message detail
So 2 R1 matches just moved into the "slightly debatable" territory.

meh
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/9/2009 5:01:57 PM | message detail
I just now realized that DKC2 replacing Fallout means probably neither DKC2 or Mario RPG advance past round 1. Whoops, two of my favorite SNES games knock each other out.

Surprised that he replaced SSB and not CC with SoulCalibur. I don't know if it gives FFVIII a better shot or not, but...*crosses fingers*
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/9/2009 5:04:30 PM | message detail
Though I was adamantly against replacing GS with FE, stating that there's no way in hell that FE would hold up against the very game that made it popular, that it was a waste, and it may even lose to Disgaea. After all, Laharl SOMEHOW gave Ramza a fight...
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ZFS | Posted 3/9/2009 5:04:47 PM | message detail
I'd be surprised if FFVIII didn't move on now.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/9/2009 5:06:28 PM | message detail
SoulCalibur did VERY well in the first Games Contest (though it bombed in the Series Contest, for whatever the reason), so I ain't givin' FFVIII a free pass by any means.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/9/2009 5:07:31 PM | message detail
does FF8 > FF

because I wouldn't take either SC or KH over FF (at least easily anyway).
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ZFS | Posted 3/9/2009 5:08:28 PM | message detail
Yeah, I don't think it'll do nearly that well today, not that going even with KH1 in 2004 is as impressive as it sounds. Then again, FFVIII's probably not going to be a top tier kinda game to begin with. Still think StarCraft > FFVIII is the way to go there.

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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/9/2009 5:08:31 PM | message detail
SoulCalibur did VERY well in the first Games Contest (though it bombed in the Series Contest, for whatever the reason), so I ain't givin' FFVIII a free pass by any means.

I say that SoulCalibur fluked that match against Kingdom Hearts.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/9/2009 5:09:53 PM | message detail
Then again, FFVIII's probably not going to be a top tier kinda game to begin with.

Liar!

Still think StarCraft > FFVIII is the way to go there.

Maybe for round 1, but SoulCalibur replacing SSB instead of CC means FFVIII can take it in round 2! If it gets there.
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ZFS | Posted 3/9/2009 5:12:37 PM | message detail
C'mon FFIX !

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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/9/2009 5:14:10 PM | message detail
Hmmm...Bacon said this was the UPDATED bracket, not the final one, and there's no link to an entry form. We might get another update.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/9/2009 5:15:31 PM | message detail
Yeah I sent a feedback ticket asking about that. FFIX with CC? FE with Melee and WW? Let's get some of this LFF outta here.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/9/2009 5:16:29 PM | message detail
darn you for mentioning nothing about xenogears

or did you
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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/9/2009 5:17:14 PM | message detail
Oh.

Honestly forgot about that. Send him a ticket yourself (and be polite!).

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KamikazePotato | Posted 3/9/2009 5:23:15 PM | message detail
There, pulled my feedback and re-sent it to include FF8/Xenogears. I hope you're happy Leon!

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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/9/2009 5:24:16 PM | message detail
Thanks! Glad my complaining finally accomplished something!
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/9/2009 5:40:54 PM | message detail
BAWWWWRD 8 never fails to live up to its reputation as the single biggest group of whiny *****es on the internet.

WHO CARES about The World Ends With You? Christ.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/9/2009 5:42:14 PM | message detail
Gotta ask: What if Disgaea had been replaced for DMC? You were against it for the same reason the TWEWY fans are.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/9/2009 5:42:53 PM | message detail
Mortal Kombat II > S.Street Fighter II Turbo
DKC2 > Fallout
Deus Ex > Panzer Dragoon Saga
Soul Calibur > Smash Bros
Fire Emblem > Golden Sun
SF4 > TWEWY

All changes made.


Too bad Sonic 3 wasn't changed to Sonic 3 & Knuckles. I'm surprised that Bacon took Deus Ex over Rollercoaster Tycoon though IMO he made the right choice. The biggest surprise has to be SFIV > TWEWY.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 3/9/2009 6:06:33 PM | message detail
I still say DKC2 replacing Lufia 2 would have been a much better choice, creating an interesting match instead of ruining one. Now GE > RE2 is a given and so is CT > YI
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/9/2009 6:51:14 PM | message detail
I don't know how big RE2 is but I doubt it's anywhere close to SFII.

SMRPG would have to be owned by GE for it to win.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/9/2009 6:52:08 PM | message detail
It's not GoldenEye I'm worried about.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/9/2009 6:54:22 PM | message detail
It's DKC2?
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greatone10 | Posted 3/9/2009 6:56:21 PM | message detail
DKC2 and SMRPG were released about the same time on a somewhat dying console. It makes a ton of sense for them to share a fanbase. Combine that with the Goldeneye overlap, and Resident Evil 2 should be able to LFF into second place.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/9/2009 6:57:41 PM | message detail
I'm surprised that no one requested removing Gunstar Heroes. Seriously, why? Why bring back a game that couldn't even break 10% in its match? It'll be lucky to even get as much as it did against A Link to the Past.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/9/2009 6:57:54 PM | message detail
RE2/GE don't share anything?
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SonicRaptor | Posted 3/9/2009 6:59:37 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #478
Too bad Sonic 3 wasn't changed to Sonic 3 & Knuckles. I'm surprised that Bacon took Deus Ex over Rollercoaster Tycoon though IMO he made the right choice. The biggest surprise has to be SFIV > TWEWY.


Yeah, given how TWEWY is such a favorite on Board 8 I'm shocked it was replaced.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/9/2009 6:59:53 PM | message detail
Bacon is entering the comments for the games when you mouse over them, but he's skipped a few!
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greatone10 | Posted 3/9/2009 7:01:35 PM | message detail
Besides, I really don't trust certain games in four ways where there are two extra voting options. Super Mario RPG strikes me as a game that gets votes for having Mario in the title, as the game was a cult classic at the end of the SNES lifespan. It would do well against the likes of Street Fighter II, where overlap is fairly limited for two games in the same generation, but I don't trust it in a 4 way, especially with two other Nintendo/Rare options in the poll.

There's also the fact that Geno would likely get killed by every Street Fighter representative we've seen in the character battles, which seems to tell me that Super Mario RPG is not quite as popular as you would think.
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greatone10 | Posted 3/9/2009 7:03:41 PM | message detail

From: Fayt_Esteed | #484
I'm surprised that no one requested removing Gunstar Heroes. Seriously, why? Why bring back a game that couldn't even break 10% in its match? It'll be lucky to even get as much as it did against A Link to the Past.


The earlier divisions don't have that many snubs for people to rally for. Besides, that divison had SSF2Turbo in it, which had a giant target on it from day one.
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charmander6000 | Posted 3/9/2009 7:11:40 PM | message detail
So games that need to be replaced...

River City Ransom
Gunstar Heroes
Phantasy Star IV

All other games are either new or strong enough to warrant a second try.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 3/9/2009 7:13:49 PM | message detail
That's the reason the generational gaps are so stupid. We're stuck with fodder like River City Ransom when we're missing games that would actually do good like Devil May Cry and Rock Band/Guitar Hero. Reminds me of the female bracket.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/9/2009 7:14:52 PM | message detail
Yeah, do we seriously need 16 games released before 1989? Just give us Mario Bros., LoZ, and Mega Man 2.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 3/9/2009 7:17:08 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #476
BAWWWWRD 8 never fails to live up to its reputation as the single biggest group of whiny *****es on the internet.

WHO CARES about The World Ends With You? Christ.


Any links to some of the whining? I was watching TV and want to see what my topic wrought.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/9/2009 7:17:58 PM | message detail
By the way, do SFIV and Brawl LFF one another?
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 3/9/2009 7:19:12 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #494
By the way, do SFIV and Brawl LFF one another?


I don't think so considering they don't even share consoles and are probably as different from each other as you can get within the genre. If anything, I'd think the PS3/360 SF4 would LFF GTA4.
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trannyscience | Posted 3/9/2009 7:20:19 PM | message detail
I would be taking GTA4 - partly because of that, partly because I've yet to see SF4 show it's worth a damn.

not that GTA4 is worth a damn either, but at least people played it. I think NPD is Thursday so we can see what kind of sales it put up (not that it can beat GTA on the sales side, but it's still helpful)
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ZFS | Posted 3/9/2009 7:22:07 PM | message detail
Street Fighter IV is the only way to go, win or lose

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 3/9/2009 7:22:22 PM | message detail
Persona 4's got this.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/9/2009 7:22:25 PM | message detail
But GTA4 looked like complete ass against Fallout 3.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 3/9/2009 7:22:37 PM | message detail
HM knows what's up!
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