GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 654
| paulg235 | Posted 3/4/2009 8:11:21 PM | message detail |
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LET'S GET THE BRACKET! ~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~ www.gamefaqscontests.com ~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/ ~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~ http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ http://thengamer.com/xstats http://thengamer.com/stats ~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories ~*TRE's poll listing (every poll!)*~ http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html ~*aprosenf's poll script*~ http://web.mit.edu/adamrose/Public/allpolls.txt ~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~ A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA ~*All the match pics*~ http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php ~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages ~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~ SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them. X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process. rSFF (Reverse Same Fanbase Factor): An unproven theory that states that an SFF match will feature the expected weaker character receiving more benefit from SFF than the stronger character. For example, all evidence supports Samus being indirectly stronger than Mario, yet Mario blew Samus away during their 2005 match. That's rSFF in action, and the one case we have of the weaker statistical character winning with it. For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything. --- The Gamer In Me |
| L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 3/4/2009 8:12:48 PM | message detail |
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WHITHER YE BRACKET, SIR BACON OF YE PORK FAT --- http://l33trappacat.blogspot.com/ |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/4/2009 10:00:26 PM | message detail |
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Tag --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸ Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Diablo 2, Lunar: SSSC |
| paulg235 | Posted 3/4/2009 10:02:03 PM | message detail |
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I kinda do miss those cheat devices. Of course, I use them for the lulz after I beated the game. --- The Gamer In Me |
| Applekidjosh | Posted 3/4/2009 10:04:12 PM | message detail |
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does aprosenf's poll script really need to be there still? --- http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/7595/lovevk5.gif Tranquil as a forest, but on fire within. Once you find your center you are sure to win! |
| paulg235 | Posted 3/5/2009 11:26:38 AM | message detail |
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WTH, FFVI actually beat FFVII in a poll? Remind to have FFVI>FFVII this year. LOL at the "Polls are stupid and so are you" option. --- The Gamer In Me |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 3/5/2009 11:52:37 AM | message detail |
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I guess I'll ask what percentages do SFF'd games votes usually go
when eliminated? 60/40, 70/30, or what? Without that, it's really hard
to make that GotY meaningful in any way. In the battle royale: When Samus went out, nearly 100% of her votes went to Link (Snake and Sephy also moved around +/-1.5% for some reason) When Mario went out, about 70% of his votes went to Link (Cloud went down a bit and the rest went to Snake and Sephy, very slightly favouring Snake) When Sephiroth went out, about 70% of his votes went to Cloud (the rest slightly favoured Snake) --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
| red sox 777 | Posted 3/5/2009 11:57:23 AM | message detail |
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Chrono Trigger > Final Fantasy VII hype train.....boarding here, next stop, bracket destruction! --- Hobbes: What's the point of attaching a number to everything you do? Calvin: If your numbers go up, it means you're having more fun. |
| L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 3/5/2009 12:13:51 PM | message detail |
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From: RPGuy96 | #007 Interesting. Samus case is extreme, and other two seem similar. Too bad we don't have much else to go on. I'll go ahead and do 70/30 for MP, WW, and Galaxy, once again ignoring SA and RE4's presence in the poll. For reference, 60/40 for TP: TP - 36560 - 48.05% FFX - 39535 - 51.95% 70/30 for TP: MP 4948/2120 WW 3549/1521 Galaxy 12095/5184 TP = 18910 + 4948 + 3549 + 12095 FFX = 27768 + 2120 + 1521 + 5184 TP - 39502 - 51.91% FFX - 36593 - 48.09% Then I have no clue how SA/RE4 would fall, but the numbers probably wouldn't change too much. At least, I don't think removing them would let FFX win in a 70/30 SFF split, much like in a 60/40 split it wouldn't let TP beat FFX. So basically at the end of 2007, it's reasonable to assume TP is around FFX's level. Of course, that may be different now with the whole anti-Nintendo atmosphere, but at the same time it'll probably affect the characters, which symbolize the company, more than the actual games themselves. Of course, that's based on pure conjecture and not any evidence. But yeah, TP and FFX are probably pretty close to each other. These stats aren't concrete at all since we have no clue how the SFF went in this case and where SA and RE4's votes would fall, but it's better than nothing. --- http://l33trappacat.blogspot.com/ |
| red sox 777 | Posted 3/5/2009 12:24:21 PM | message detail |
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Remember that the number of total votes changed as the BR progressed,
explaining why some characters actually lost percentage when a
character was removed, so those numbers, especially earlier on in the
BR, should not be taken too literally. --- Hobbes: What's the point of attaching a number to everything you do? Calvin: If your numbers go up, it means you're having more fun. |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 3/5/2009 1:14:48 PM | message detail |
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Bacon, you forgot my birthday present, so make it up to me tonight! --- FastFalcon is without a doubt the best Guru I've ever heard of, savvy? http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 3/5/2009 1:15:30 PM | message detail |
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Tag --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
| charmander6000 | Posted 3/5/2009 1:21:41 PM | message detail |
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Don't worry Bacon will have the bracket before my birthday... on June 22. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls Congratulations to FastFalcon for winning the guru contest, you are the best among the best. |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/5/2009 1:40:30 PM | message detail |
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Tag --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 3/5/2009 4:41:32 PM | message detail |
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SB is tearing through feedback tickets right now at a lightning pace-
he just responded to a Contest question I had by implying that he's
pretty close to completion of the bracket. Hopefully he'll get those
finishing touches made in the next couple hours! --- thengamer.com/guru/ says we just got owned hard by FastFalcon! (thengamer.com/xstats & board8.wikia.com are neat) |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/5/2009 4:43:08 PM | message detail |
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so it's either today or tomorrow then.. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| ZFS | Posted 3/5/2009 4:43:35 PM | message detail |
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Still predictin' tomorrow! --- Enough expository banter! Now we fight like men! And ladies! And ladies who dress like men! |
| red sox 777 | Posted 3/5/2009 4:46:49 PM | message detail |
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Bracket tonight let's go! It's probably better if I give up on the
bracket coming tonight, as it never comes when I expect it to. --- Hobbes: What's the point of attaching a number to everything you do? Calvin: If your numbers go up, it means you're having more fun. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 3/5/2009 5:07:49 PM | message detail |
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I hope he does it tonight -- it'd be a nice little bonus for us and a good way to greet the casuals on Friday/tomorrow morning. Either way though, it's on the horizon and coming fast for us...finally, and I can't wait to see it. --- Play Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation (1 and 2) for Gameboy Advance today |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/5/2009 5:09:47 PM | message detail |
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It's time to kick ass and chew bubblegum. And I'm aaaaaaaaalllllll outta gum. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/8zkzm1.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| CasanovaZelos | Posted 3/5/2009 5:12:09 PM | message detail |
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Is it bad that I have SBAllen's profile in another tab and I'm constantly refreshing it to see if he's on? --- Recent Watches: Duck Soup, 8.7; The Incredibles, 8.4; All About Eve, 9.3 *Owned by FastFalcon in the Guru Contest* |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 3/5/2009 5:12:47 PM | message detail |
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Yes. --- FastFalcon is without a doubt the best Guru I've ever heard of, savvy? http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 3/5/2009 5:13:39 PM | message detail |
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No, keep up the good work. --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
| CasanovaZelos | Posted 3/5/2009 5:13:42 PM | message detail |
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Aww... --- Recent Watches: Duck Soup, 8.7; The Incredibles, 8.4; All About Eve, 9.3 *Owned by FastFalcon in the Guru Contest* |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/5/2009 5:14:19 PM | message detail |
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You really think you're alone in doing that? --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| CasanovaZelos | Posted 3/5/2009 5:15:04 PM | message detail |
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Also, since last time was my first time in the guru contest, how long do we have to keep these sigs? --- Recent Watches: Duck Soup, 8.7; The Incredibles, 8.4; All About Eve, 9.3 *Owned by FastFalcon in the Guru Contest* |
| paulg235 | Posted 3/5/2009 5:16:09 PM | message detail |
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Jesus christ. Stop stalking him. I don't do it. >.> <.< >.< Okay, I do, but only once every hour. Every five minutes if he was on minutes ago. --- The Gamer In Me |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 3/5/2009 5:17:11 PM | message detail |
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You only have to keep the sig for two weeks. Alot of us just leave the
sigs up until the next Contest out of respect (or, more likely, because
we're lazy). --- thengamer.com/guru/ says we just got owned hard by FastFalcon! (thengamer.com/xstats & board8.wikia.com are neat) |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 3/5/2009 5:20:12 PM | message detail |
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(it's the laziness one) --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
| CasanovaZelos | Posted 3/5/2009 5:20:42 PM | message detail |
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Oh my God he's back on!!!!! --- Recent Watches: Duck Soup, 8.7; The Incredibles, 8.4; All About Eve, 9.3 *Owned by FastFalcon in the Guru Contest* |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 3/5/2009 5:21:45 PM | message detail |
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Sound all the warning bells! --- thengamer.com/guru/ says we just got owned hard by FastFalcon! (thengamer.com/xstats & board8.wikia.com are neat) |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 3/5/2009 5:22:44 PM | message detail |
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What --- FastFalcon is without a doubt the best Guru I've ever heard of, savvy? http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| CasanovaZelos | Posted 3/5/2009 5:23:19 PM | message detail |
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I will! You know, me getting overly excited easily caused me to find the bracket one year. Too bad I posted how and they took out the way I found it. --- Recent Watches: Duck Soup, 8.7; The Incredibles, 8.4; All About Eve, 9.3 *Owned by FastFalcon in the Guru Contest* |
| ZFS | Posted 3/5/2009 5:23:38 PM | message detail |
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Haha, man, you guys gotta leave the poor guy alone ! --- Enough expository banter! Now we fight like men! And ladies! And ladies who dress like men! |
| HaRRicH | Posted 3/5/2009 5:23:47 PM | message detail |
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Talking about sigs, I think it's about time I changed mine! Final predictions: will SB give us a one-on-one bracket or a four-way bracket? --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
| CasanovaZelos | Posted 3/5/2009 5:25:40 PM | message detail |
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One-on-one. Wasn't the four-way to make the bracket more exciting? This one doesn't need to be spiced up. --- Recent Watches: Duck Soup, 8.7; The Incredibles, 8.4; All About Eve, 9.3 *Owned by FastFalcon in the Guru Contest* |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/5/2009 5:25:54 PM | message detail |
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if it was four-way, seedings would be ridiculously hard. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 3/5/2009 5:26:01 PM | message detail |
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One on one for reasons already stated. --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
| TheOceIot | Posted 3/5/2009 5:26:20 PM | message detail |
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Please don't post the bracket tonight, I've got an 8 page essay due tomorrow that I haven't started. --- What's quicker than an Ocelot? A FastFalcon http://img.imgcake.com/ducks1.jpg |
| HaRRicH | Posted 3/5/2009 5:27:02 PM | message detail |
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It's not like SB is hurt or bothered or knows about people refreshing his page, so...do what you wanna do guys. It's your time. Forgot to answer my own question: I think it will be a one-on-one bracket, and -- to take the prediction further -- its popularity this year will decide for SB whether or not we stick with four-ways in the future or not. --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
| L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 3/5/2009 5:30:13 PM | message detail |
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Please not tonight. I've got Survivor, Hell's Kitchen, and The Office to watch. --- http://l33trappacat.blogspot.com/ |
| paulg235 | Posted 3/5/2009 5:30:50 PM | message detail |
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Don't you jinx it! --- The Gamer In Me |
| red sox 777 | Posted 3/5/2009 5:35:44 PM | message detail |
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What are mere television programs to THE BRACKET. --- Hobbes: What's the point of attaching a number to everything you do? Calvin: If your numbers go up, it means you're having more fun. |
| Masato_Tanaka | Posted 3/5/2009 5:54:02 PM | message detail |
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taggage --- The Straight Up G The Palace of Wisdom Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| paulg235 | Posted 3/5/2009 7:01:14 PM | message detail |
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You jinxed it, L33T! Godamnit! --- The Gamer In Me |
| red sox 777 | Posted 3/5/2009 7:47:44 PM | message detail |
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We're not getting the bracket tonight, are we? --- Hobbes: What's the point of attaching a number to everything you do? Calvin: If your numbers go up, it means you're having more fun. |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/5/2009 7:51:37 PM | message detail |
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Just wait for Friday. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 3/5/2009 8:39:32 PM | message detail |
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At least he didn't interrupt my TV. I'll predict Friday of next week, with the contest starting mid-May. --- http://l33trappacat.blogspot.com/ |
| Biolizard28 | Posted 3/5/2009 8:40:26 PM | message detail |
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Nobody's forcing you to come here when the bracket's up. --- i have nothing against pedophiles especially the ones that actually act on their desires-Palmer Now this is entertainment! |
| L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 3/5/2009 8:47:14 PM | message detail |
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Hey, I can appreciate Bacon delaying posting the bracket a day so it wouldn't interfere with my television, so it's no big deal. --- http://l33trappacat.blogspot.com/ |
