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| TheOceIot | Posted 3/4/2009 8:27:35 PM | message detail |
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bracket coming soon --- What's quicker than an Ocelot? A FastFalcon http://img.imgcake.com/ducks1.jpg |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 3/4/2009 8:27:35 PM | message detail |
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How do you think FFT does on MGS today? We're talking about the weakest
year for MGS, and a very high water mark for FFT (Ramza, who is Laharl
level fodder now, was once a debated match for Kirby back in 2k3). Also, do you have any comprehension of how badly SM64 got its ass handed to it by OoT? *I* could do better against Ocarina. --- turnturnturn your brain in turnturnturn your brain in |
| L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 3/4/2009 8:30:38 PM | message detail |
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From: Meeks54 | #441 No. I think it'll be several percentage points above OoT. --- http://l33trappacat.blogspot.com/ |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 3/4/2009 8:35:18 PM | message detail |
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Seems we aren't getting the bracket tonight =\ --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/02/sf4franken06.jpg |
| L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 3/4/2009 8:35:42 PM | message detail |
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That's because the contest has been canceled. --- http://l33trappacat.blogspot.com/ |
| MetricTrout | Posted 3/4/2009 8:36:58 PM | message detail |
| I will wait until 12 AM tomorrow for the bracket. |
| ZFS | Posted 3/4/2009 8:47:52 PM | message detail |
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He'll probably wait until Friday before putting up the bracket. --- Enough expository banter! Now we fight like men! And ladies! And ladies who dress like men! |
| paulg235 | Posted 3/4/2009 8:50:35 PM | message detail |
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SBAllen's online right now. --- The Gamer In Me |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/4/2009 8:52:44 PM | message detail |
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Doesn't mean anything I suppose. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| MetricTrout | Posted 3/4/2009 9:05:12 PM | message detail |
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Damn. Going to sleep right now. Hopefully the bracket will be up when I get up! ... Wishful thinking, I suppose. |
| MetricTrout | Posted 3/5/2009 5:58:41 AM | message detail |
| Nope. |
| Mr3790 | Posted 3/5/2009 6:16:11 AM | message detail |
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Nice to know the contest was a hoax. --- AC:WW Code: Name:Mr.378 Town:Darkcity FC: 4210-5769-8462 GENO WHIRL! |
| GameZACKS | Posted 3/5/2009 8:30:56 AM | message detail |
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sorry guys I only got banned. :( --- GAMEZACKS |
| Masato_Tanaka | Posted 3/5/2009 9:22:31 AM | message detail |
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I'm just gonna call every one of you out right now. People are
underestimating the **** out of Brawl and MGS4. OoT and FF7 levels? No.
But would both of them be able to beat Resident Evil 4? You best
****ing believe it. They'd be AT LEAST around Melee/FFX level, probably a little more so. --- The Straight Up G The Palace of Wisdom Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| GameZACKS | Posted 3/5/2009 9:24:12 AM | message detail |
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why would MGS4 have some enormous advantage over RE4? --- GAMEZACKS |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/5/2009 9:30:01 AM | message detail |
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I don't understand where all the confidence is coming from myself. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| Masato_Tanaka | Posted 3/5/2009 9:33:54 AM | message detail |
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Give me one good reason why to believe RE4 would easily be able to take MGS4 or Brawl then. --- The Straight Up G The Palace of Wisdom Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/5/2009 9:35:07 AM | message detail |
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Give me one good reason why to believe RE4 would easily be able to take MGS4 or Brawl then. Because there's no reason on the contrary as far as the information we have today. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| Masato_Tanaka | Posted 3/5/2009 9:35:47 AM | message detail |
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Because there's no reason on the contrary as far as the information we have today. Exactly. There's not much evidence to support either side really >_> It's just instinct. --- The Straight Up G The Palace of Wisdom Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/5/2009 9:37:16 AM | message detail |
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And I question this 'instinct'. MGS4 vs Brawl was pretty much a game with 30%~ ownership vs a game heavily hyped and over (or nearly) half the site bought within a week. Why did Brawl struggle? I also find it really hard for MGS4 to be along the lines of MGS3 or MGS while being on the PS3. Franchise voting be damned; It just ain't going to rank that high. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/5/2009 9:40:16 AM | message detail |
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Give me one good reason why to believe RE4 would easily be able to take MGS4 or Brawl then. Easily? I don't know about anyone else, but I definitely haven't been making such bold claims. Look a few posts higher, and you'll see that you, on the other hand, have. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2253 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2254 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2995 Resident Evil 4 is a beast. Not only is it one of the most critically acclaimed games of like the last 30 freakin' years, it's also a million seller on three consoles and has a PC release for good measure. It's had very impressive GameFAQs poll results, and the amount of discussion the game still gets all over the boards suggests to me that it's aged very well these last four years. It might also benefit from an RE5-related boost. When it has the acclaim, the fandom, the sales, and the poll results to back it up, why not give the game a healthy chance? --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/8zkzm1.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| Crimson Dragoon | Posted 3/5/2009 9:41:59 AM | message detail |
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Hey, it's that dog. --- ~FFDragon. (at Work !!) The Cream of Resident Evil Fanboyism. |
| GameZACKS | Posted 3/5/2009 9:42:02 AM | message detail |
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Give me one good reason why to believe RE4 would easily be able to take MGS4 or Brawl then. We're not the ones acting like RE4 is a lock to beat MGS4, you just got done saying that "we best ****ing believe MGS4 is going to beat RE4." So why is it such a foregone conclusion? --- GAMEZACKS |
| neonreaper | Posted 3/5/2009 9:44:17 AM | message detail |
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Anyone who thinks MGS has a snowball's chance in Hell with a scarf
on to beat SM64 should print their bracket out and use it as toilet
paper. throw down a percentage and if MGS breaks it, you'll eat your shorts. And don't say 50% after this rhetoric. Let me start it early this year. ONE LESS BRACKET. god I hate these topics --- yoga fire yoga flame |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/5/2009 9:46:00 AM | message detail |
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Some of us are very friendly! --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/8zkzm1.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| MadGamer_11 | Posted 3/5/2009 9:52:00 AM | message detail |
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Damn I woke up expecting the bracket..... Shame... --- "To be forgotten is worse than death"-Freya FFIX Super Smash Bros Brawl Code: 2105 8311 6321 |
| L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 3/5/2009 9:53:24 AM | message detail |
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That last poll makes me favor Brawl over RE4 just because it's only a
couple percentage points over a hugely SFF'd TP, and I'd personally
choose Brawl over TP (though I realize others probably wouldn't). The
2005 GotY polls just show that 2005 was a crappy year for gaming. I
don't think you can glean much from numbers off Mario Kart DS and a God
of War that wasn't yet beloved by GameFAQs and whose series would still
probably have each game weaker than its main character. RE4 definitely
doesn't dominate the poll like FFX does despite not having good reason
to be LFF'd. RE4 is probably pretty strong, and if there's anytime to see it in action it's a time when Nintendo's down, fans are losing faith in Square, and Capcom fever is at its strongest, not to mention coming off the heels of RE5. But even with all that, I'd still opt with Brawl over RE4. Obviously, others will disagree, and I can see how it'd be close. I just don't think 42.4% on FFX is all that beastly. But then it has all the intangibles imaginable backing it up, so if RE4 does exceed my expectations and does a Snake-like performance I won't be surprised. I'll err on the side of fanboyism, but it could really go either way. --- http://l33trappacat.blogspot.com/ |
| Masato_Tanaka | Posted 3/5/2009 9:53:37 AM | message detail |
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I'm not saying RE4 wouldn't have a chance, but even with the ownership
advantage and the fact that many felt that "Brawl didn't live up to the
hype", I still would feel alright with MGS4 or Brawl over RE4 for
several reasons. 1. Even with the decline of Nintendo in recent years, Brawl is still insanely popular and probably the last great Wii game, not to mention RE4's main success was on the Gamecube and even the Wii, therefore some SFF would probably be factored in. 2. There are a few examples of Nintendo being able to SFF Capcom in the past, most notable being Super Mario RPG(course Square factored in here too, but it was a MARIO game) vs Street Fighter II 3. While PS3 ownership still may not be high, look what it was able to accomplish in the GOTY polls here. That's a nice amount of votes for a game on a system not many people on GameFAQs have. My point is there are plenty of people who've played a PS3 just for MGS4. While RE5 may put RE4 back in the limelight, if anything it could potentially overshadow it as well, leaving yet another possible advantage for MGS4. I'm just not buying into the "Aging well" theory, no matter how strong it may have looked in the game of the century poll. --- The Straight Up G The Palace of Wisdom Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| Masato_Tanaka | Posted 3/5/2009 9:57:36 AM | message detail |
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I also question the game of the century's legimitacy a little because I
believe Twilight Princess and Galaxy probably did a fair share of
damage against one another. --- The Straight Up G The Palace of Wisdom Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| GameZACKS | Posted 3/5/2009 10:00:23 AM | message detail |
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And RE4 didn't suffer from that? A major part of it's fanbase comes
from the GC/Wii. There's no reason to believe that it wasn't affected
either. And don't say Brawl and TP have a bigger overlap, because
there's no reason to believe that when one is a party-fighting game and
the other is a platformer. --- GAMEZACKS |
| Masato_Tanaka | Posted 3/5/2009 10:01:22 AM | message detail |
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Oh I wasn't even going to bring up an overlap possibility, because well...Brawl wasn't even in that poll >_> --- The Straight Up G The Palace of Wisdom Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/5/2009 10:02:15 AM | message detail |
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From: L33t_Rappa_Sam | #477 This is my main problem simply because TP wouldn't struggle to beat any PS3 game like that. From: L33t_Rappa_Sam | #477 Even so, that's enough for me to take it over two most likely frauds. From: Masato_Tanaka | #478 For one, there's no telling where that SFF actually lies. I'm more inclined to believe it'll be balanced or lean slightly to RE4 even. From: Masato_Tanaka | #478 This.. is actually a point against you. It's more of Nintendo's weakness than PS3's strength. 36% ownership easily beating 60% is unprecedented. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| GameZACKS | Posted 3/5/2009 10:04:18 AM | message detail |
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whoops thought you said Brawl and not Galaxy. Anyway RE4 is still on
the GC/Wii sharing overlap with them, as well as MP, and GTA which
shares its PS2 fanbase. There's way too much overlap going on there to
try and figure out who was affected the most. --- GAMEZACKS |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/5/2009 10:05:11 AM | message detail |
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RE4 was hurt in that Game of the Century poll as well. It might not
have had as much overlap as TP/Galaxy did with each other, but it had
overlap with everything. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/8zkzm1.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| Masato_Tanaka | Posted 3/5/2009 10:07:11 AM | message detail |
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How does that even work? How can you tell it's not MGS4's strength and
it's Nintendo's weakness? The two games are eeriely similiar in terms
of hype(ok so Brawl was hyped more, but don't tell me MGS4 wasn't also
one of the most anticipated releases in a long, long time), critical
acclaim, and things of that manner. So it's a fine line to draw. The reason I think Galaxy and TP were most affected is because it's Mario and Zelda, the company's flagship franchises. --- The Straight Up G The Palace of Wisdom Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| Masato_Tanaka | Posted 3/5/2009 10:09:56 AM | message detail |
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RE4 was hurt in that Game of the Century poll as well. It might not
have had as much overlap as TP/Galaxy did with each other, but it had
overlap with everything. The reason I beg to differ is actually because it was multi-platform, whereas TP and Galaxy didn't really quite get that luxury of exposure. In other words, people don't associate RE4 with games like FFX, Metroid Prime, and San Andreas. When you think of the two biggest entities or games Nintendo has ever created...people will instantly tell you Mario or Zelda --- The Straight Up G The Palace of Wisdom Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/5/2009 10:17:02 AM | message detail |
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From: Masato_Tanaka | #485 Think about it. Brawl had tons of more hype than MGS4. It was on a system with more ownership. Why oh why did it only manage 52% on the exact opposite and 54% on .. something that came out merely 2 months before the poll? It's more likely that all three games are just frauds than all three games are suddenly on the leagues of FFX and Melee. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| Masato_Tanaka | Posted 3/5/2009 10:20:02 AM | message detail |
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Maybe you're right about all three being frauds, who really knows, this is why I hate speculation >_> --- The Straight Up G The Palace of Wisdom Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 3/5/2009 10:25:34 AM | message detail |
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Ignoring RE4 and SA for a moment, just removing Galaxy, MP, and WW and
putting their percentages going 60/40 to TP and FFX, favoring FFX, you
get this: TP - 36560 - 48.05% FFX - 39535 - 51.95% Let's assume RE4 goes 55/45 TP and SA 55/45 FFX due to console biases. TP - 54839 - 48.89% FFX - 57335 - 51.11% I just felt like doing math for no reason. I pulled those distributions of votes out of my ass, so I wouldn't put really any stock in this. I don't even know why I'm posting this. Hell, analyzing RE4 and SA's vote distributions toward FFX and TP is probably nigh impossible without actually seeing FFX and TP go 1-on-1 first. I guess I'll ask what percentages do SFF'd games votes usually go when eliminated? 60/40, 70/30, or what? Without that, it's really hard to make that GotY meaningful in any way. --- http://l33trappacat.blogspot.com/ |
| transience | Posted 3/5/2009 10:25:43 AM | message detail |
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Think about it. Brawl had tons of more hype than MGS4. I dunno about this. --- xyzzy STREET FIGHTER 4, SON http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvPKGSk13zo |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 3/5/2009 10:27:39 AM | message detail |
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Well, I suppose that isn't concrete just yet.. still, it was probably
one of the most quickly bought games I've ever seen on the polls. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| Masato_Tanaka | Posted 3/5/2009 10:29:44 AM | message detail |
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Like I said, the hype train for MGS4 didn't fall too far from the Brawl wagon --- The Straight Up G The Palace of Wisdom Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| HaRRicH | Posted 3/5/2009 10:37:49 AM | message detail |
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RE4 had to compete with two GotYs for every system it was on. On the
Nintendo front, it was against two LoZ games and successful revivals of
Mario and Metroid. On the Playstation front, it was against arguably
the second strongest FF and the strongest GTA. There is a LOT of room
to be brought down. Also, on the Top 100 List, it was #14 when it was JUST on the Gamecube (well, it was released on the PS2 the day before the list closed, but that shouldn't really count). Add million-sellers to the PS2 and Wii since then as well as whatever RE5 brings here, and we have a game capable of being in the top ten in the contest. Don't let 2005 being a generally weak year fool you; God of War and MKDS are not that weak and RE4 then isn't the RE4 we will have on our hands in this contest. --- Play Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation (1 and 2) for Gameboy Advance today |
| HaRRicH | Posted 3/5/2009 10:45:36 AM | message detail |
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3004 Maybe MGS4 wasn't far from SSBB's hype in general, but it was not the case on GameFAQs. In fact... http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2812 ...replace SSBB with SMG and MP3, and SMG still manages to out-hype MGS4 at one point here. --- Play Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation (1 and 2) for Gameboy Advance today |
| transience | Posted 3/5/2009 10:47:13 AM | message detail |
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it's not really fair to compare old MGS4 to the crush that happened a month or so prior to release. that was a different level. now Galaxy, that is the anti-hype. a lot of those polls are just NintendoFAQs being on steroids. --- xyzzy STREET FIGHTER 4, SON http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvPKGSk13zo |
| HaRRicH | Posted 3/5/2009 10:52:27 AM | message detail |
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Even still, the level of hype for SSBB was unprecedented here other
than maybe LoZ:TP. Ike never would have made the contest in 2007 if it
wasn't for SSBB-hype, and he managed to nearly advance over Duke and
Gordon just off of its hype. Likewise, Meta-Knight and Pit won't have
made it in 2007 either and Solid Snake's hype-boost from 2006 onward
was certainly more from SSBB than MGS4. It didn't hurt that SSBB was on
the most owned system here as opposed to the least owned, either. --- Play Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation (1 and 2) for Gameboy Advance today |
| HaRRicH | Posted 3/5/2009 11:03:51 AM | message detail |
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One more: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3132 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3004 42% there about two weeks before MGS4's release against those games, or 37% about six weeks before SSBB's release against no game weaker than Street Fighter 4? --- Play Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation (1 and 2) for Gameboy Advance today |
| GameZACKS | Posted 3/5/2009 12:00:11 PM | message detail |
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As much hype as MGS4 had, I don't think you could convince me that it
was anywhere in Brawl's league. Granted I wasn't coming around gfaqs
anymore for the months prior to MGS4 so I missed that here, but Brawl
hype was ungodly. --- GAMEZACKS |
| transience | Posted 3/5/2009 12:12:22 PM | message detail |
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depends on the people - the MGS4 people were VERY loud, though not as numerous I guess. --- xyzzy STREET FIGHTER 4, SON http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvPKGSk13zo |
| transience | Posted 3/5/2009 12:12:38 PM | message detail |
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lol mgs4 --- xyzzy STREET FIGHTER 4, SON http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvPKGSk13zo |
