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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 652

MarioSuperstar | Posted 2/20/2009 6:13:03 PM | message detail
Oh but then again, Ike is a bigger favorite in Brawl..

I guess I'd coin toss.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/20/2009 6:14:04 PM | message detail
Ike>Vega

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HaRRicH | Posted 2/20/2009 6:32:47 PM | message detail
Ike > Vega. Anti-Wii sentiment be damned, Ike still nearly beat Arthas with Pikachu in the poll. That's solid, and much better than what he did in 2k7.

Vega can say he beat M. Bison the other day worse than Diablo though, and Arthas barely beat Diablo in 2k7...I really like that Vega/Arthas match-up. I'm pretty sure either one of them beats M. Bison and loses to Ike, however, though they should all be pretty close.
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ZFS | Posted 2/20/2009 9:47:21 PM | message detail
Tidus > Ken on that earlier pack.

Wouldn't surprise me too much if Ken did a number on that group, though. He's gonna be the guy to keep an eye on post-SFIV.

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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 2/21/2009 6:26:46 AM | message detail
And SBAllen continues to demonstrate that he has some of the best taste on the site.
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TheOceIot | Posted 2/21/2009 11:49:05 AM | message detail
February 21st is my birthday, I totally expect the bracket as a present!

So much for that.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/21/2009 11:49:49 AM | message detail
The day's not over yet!
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 2/21/2009 11:57:18 AM | message detail
But it's a weekend.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 2/22/2009 8:19:35 PM | message detail
So .. when was the bracket released last year for the game contest?
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/22/2009 9:18:13 PM | message detail
Marchish
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 2/23/2009 6:34:21 AM | message detail
I'd take Ike > Vega. Ike almost beat Arthas despite Pika being in the poll.
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paulg235 | Posted 2/23/2009 6:40:36 AM | message detail
Fun Division of 8

Ryu
Pikachu

Squall
Bowser

Luigi
Dante

Auron
Tifa
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 2/23/2009 7:21:45 AM | message detail
Ryu > Pikachu

don't see why this is even a match.

Squall > Bowser

Same here.

Luigi > Dante

Really a coin flip here.

Auron > Tifa


Squall > Ryu

Auron > Luigi

Auron > Squall

Another coin flip.

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BombLasagna | Posted 2/23/2009 7:23:44 AM | message detail
agree with every pick

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charmander6000 | Posted 2/23/2009 7:40:34 AM | message detail
ROUND 1

Ryu
Pikachu

Pikachu may have out done him last contest, but even before SFIV I wouldn't take him over Ryu.

Squall
Bowser

I've always wanted to see this match after the 2003 contest, but now Squall probably takes this easily.

Luigi
Dante

Close match, but Luigi will take it in a Dante/Yoshi match.

Auron
Tifa

I think Auron is higher on the square ladder.

ROUND 2

Ryu
Squall

SFIV will make this a close match, but in the end Squall takes it.

Luigi
Auron

If Auron can take on Tifa then he can defeat Luigi

ROUND 3

Squall
Auron

Squall wins, but Auron will put up a fight.

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 2/23/2009 8:08:31 AM | message detail
I suppose the reason I'd take Luigi > Dante is mainly because I believe Luigi to stand the test of time better.
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_Hogger_ | Posted 2/23/2009 11:47:10 AM | message detail
How many noms are we up to?
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 2/23/2009 12:04:22 PM | message detail
Last time I checked earlier it was 155k.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 2/23/2009 12:16:13 PM | message detail
I suppose the reason I'd take Luigi > Dante is mainly because I believe Luigi to stand the test of time better.

Not *these* times. Anyone who decides to be bullish on Nintendo right now - Mario characters, especially - is just asking for their bracket to get destroyed. Until Ninty comes out with something to appeal to the casual market it's only going to get weaker, and Dante doesn't let Liquid Snake break 45% on him to begin with.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 2/23/2009 12:22:27 PM | message detail
Yeah but I'm always sketchy on four-ways anyway. Casual characters usually tend to do less than we'd expect them to in it.

As for Liquid Snake, well, it's possible he gained slightly.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 2/23/2009 12:35:39 PM | message detail
We're not gonna have a Games Contest, are we.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 2/23/2009 2:22:02 PM | message detail
I think Bacon just forgot, honestly.
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_Hogger_ | Posted 2/23/2009 2:39:41 PM | message detail

From: ZenOfThunder | #322
I think Bacon just forgot, honestly.


I'm actually banking on that by now.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 2/23/2009 3:13:02 PM | message detail
Until Ninty comes out with something to appeal to the casual market

This should have been *non*-casual, sorry for the confusion.

As for four-ways hurting casual fanbases, we've only seen that in a select few cases while most casual characters (Master Chief, Pokemon) have seemed to thrive in the four-way format. The only *really* big casual flop I can think of, in comparison, is Sonic, and most seem convinced that a non-trivial part of his failures is that he's become just plain weaker.
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paulg235 | Posted 2/23/2009 3:16:14 PM | message detail
I'm giving Beercan a week until I've lost all hope for BGE2009.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 2/23/2009 7:19:20 PM | message detail
I don't think he even cares.

I wouldn't be surprised at this point if last year's contest will end up being the last big contest this site will ever have. All we'll have to look forward to are Game of the Year polls and "Got ____?"
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ZFS | Posted 2/23/2009 7:46:05 PM | message detail
It's not like we didn't just get through with a contest a few months ago. It's not a big deal if he waits a bit before diving into another one, he just got the noms rolling a little earlier than usual this time. Gotta wait and see what happens on March 1st. If we don't hear something then, who knows, but he's probably gotta deal with stuff that out prioritizes a contest.

I think we'll end up getting a bracket in early March, with the contest starting in early April. We'll see.

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HaRRicH | Posted 2/23/2009 9:43:35 PM | message detail
Yeah, at this point I can't imagine him NOT aiming for the five-year anniversary of BGE. That would still be less than five months between then and our last contest match, which is only as bad as it is because of how early this contest's nominations were put up.

Still, in the words of Tom Petty...the waiting is the hardest part.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 2/24/2009 3:36:39 AM | message detail
Nominations are up to 156842 right now. At this rate, we could almost come close to getting around the same number of nominations that CBVII got, but this would require nominations to stay open for about another 2 to 3 weeks.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/24/2009 5:43:36 AM | message detail
Ryu
Pikachu

Squall
Bowser

Luigi
Dante

Auron
Tifa
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HaRRicH | Posted 2/24/2009 10:38:36 AM | message detail
Is it just me, or does it seem like the BGE2-noms are moving a lot slower than the CB7-noms? I don't mean overall -- I know B8 had the nominations open for so long first and all...but since it's hit the main page, I thought CB7-noms hit 200,000 or so in a quicker period of time.

If that's right...that's really weird to me.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/24/2009 10:43:02 AM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #331
Is it just me, or does it seem like the BGE2-noms are moving a lot slower than the CB7-noms? I don't mean overall -- I know B8 had the nominations open for so long first and all...but since it's hit the main page, I thought CB7-noms hit 200,000 or so in a quicker period of time.

If that's right...that's really weird to me.


I think its partially cuz we're lacking a banner
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/24/2009 10:49:09 AM | message detail
I'm surprised at the Luigi love. I heart the mean green more than most people, but Dante had him easily outclassed last year, and a format change isn't enough to make me consider a 2009 Nintendo resurgence.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/24/2009 10:50:43 AM | message detail
I personally don't think Luigi can beat Dante. Dante is like the strongest of the tier below noble 9 thats not Nintendo/Square.
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 2/24/2009 10:51:04 AM | message detail
we still want the damn bracket man
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/24/2009 11:07:25 AM | message detail
Pull the Trigger, I Dare You! Division

Sonic
Tifa

Auron
Sora

Vincent
Squall

Mega Man
Kirby

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red sox 777 | Posted 2/24/2009 11:09:53 AM | message detail
Tifa
Auron
Vincent
Mega Man

Tifa
Megaman

Megaman

Uh....counting on FFVII to prove its New Square SFF dominance, and for MM9 to have done something for MM.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 2/24/2009 11:10:33 AM | message detail
The silver haired one got beat by Kirby, who we've seen Luigi take already (how much of the puffball's win was due to bandwagoning is up for debate, but it was a pretty clean victory). We've also seen Luigi come relatively close to Dante with the rat in the poll (whether the rat is a significant LFF factor is up for debate; Samus distanced herself from Vincent with the rat replacing Ganondorf). Granted, Luigi didn't look good in his first round match last year (Roxas got beat pretty bad, but he was dangerously close to Liquid), and then there were two LFF debacles with Bowser and big brother, so I can see why you'd be down on him.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/24/2009 11:11:12 AM | message detail
Woo, first responder pulled the trigger! I must be out of my damn mind, because that Tifa>Sonic upset looks so enticing.
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red sox 777 | Posted 2/24/2009 11:11:35 AM | message detail
Oh, and I don't think we need to worry about Kirby beating Megaman. It may have been 3 and a half years ago, and MM may be much weaker now than then, but he still crushed Yoshi with 68%......can't see anyone in the Yoshi/Luigi/Bowser/Kirby group getting close to Megaman.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 2/24/2009 11:19:25 AM | message detail
And it's hard not to pull the trigger on Sonic, if not on Tifa than certainly on Auron; he looked godawful last year and doesn't have any excuses. I would (reluctantly) take the Vincent/Squall winner over Mega Man, as well.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/24/2009 11:24:12 AM | message detail
I might be guilty of some revisionist history here, but really, Sonic didn't beat Tifa that badly in 2005. Consider that it was a great year for Nintendo (Sonic fit the mold even back then, let's get real), a poor one for Square, and an awful picture for Tifa. If a rematch occurs, especially when users can give her this:

http://myhaven.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/tifa.jpg

it suddenly becomes reasonable.
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Ngamer64 | Posted 2/24/2009 11:56:27 AM | message detail
Yeah, we hit 200k in no time last Fall, but as was mentioned we had an attention-grabbing FF7 style banner on the front page the whole while driving in noms. This time around, well, I know of people who visit GameFAQs several times a week who didn't notice the BGE noms link on the front page for months.

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H__RR____H | Posted 2/24/2009 1:03:37 PM | message detail
Maybe SB just didn't want to have an animated banner; did he ever look at the other ones made in your topic?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 2/24/2009 1:36:33 PM | message detail
Tifa
Auron

Squall
Mega Man


Auron
Squall


Auron

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 2/24/2009 4:05:14 PM | message detail
Dante is like the strongest of the tier below noble 9 thats not Nintendo/Square.

Well we've also haven't seen Kratos and Ryu could possibly top Dante today..

Anyway:

Sonic > Tifa

I dunno. Just a gut thing. I don't think Tifa's the one to do it here.

Auron > Sora

Vincent > Squall

Mega Man > Kirby

Sonic > Auron

Again, I just have more faith in Sonic than most I suppose.

Vincent > Mega Man

Mega Man 8 probably did nothing and he's still on the decline (also lol Nintendo).

Sonic > Vincent

I honestly don't know who'd win this one but I'm still sticking with Sonic anyway.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 2/24/2009 4:21:11 PM | message detail
I'm surprised at the Luigi love. I heart the mean green more than most people, but Dante had him easily outclassed last year, and a format change isn't enough to make me consider a 2009 Nintendo resurgence.

Remember when Dante had every conceivable reason to beat Yoshi in 2006 and he still didn't? Sure, this is a different world, but still, Dante needs to prove he can beat a really popular character first. He hasn't done it.

Now for this eightpack:

Sonic
Tifa

I'll take the risk!

Auron
Sora

Auron SFFs him, if there's any debate.

Vincent
Squall

Just because.

Mega Man
Kirby

Kirby won't be able to take him one-on-one. The format is his friend. If he got 45% or more, I wouldn't be surprised though. He's good for that.

I'll take Auron over Tifa, but it could go either way, and I'll pull the trigger on Squall, just because.
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ZFS | Posted 2/24/2009 4:25:13 PM | message detail
Sonic
Tifa

Auron
Sora

Vincent
Squall

Mega Man
Kirby

Tough choice between Auron/Vincent. I like Vincent just a little more to win it.

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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 2/24/2009 6:17:32 PM | message detail
Pull the Trigger, I Dare You! Division

Sonic
Tifa

Auron
Sora

Vincent
Squall

Mega Man
Kirby



Sonic > Tifa (I just can't see Tifa being the one to beat Sonic)
Auron > Sora (I just feel that Auron's likely higher up on the Square ladder)
Vince > Squall
Mega Man > Kirby (I doubt that Kirby's really as powerful as he showed us last contest)

Sonic > Auron (I dunno)
Vince > Mega Man (Mega Man 9 most likely did nothing to help him stop the decline he's been on as of late)

Sonic > Vince (Looks like a coin flip to me)
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/24/2009 6:28:09 PM | message detail
Mega Man/Kirby is a trap match; I just didn't know who else to throw in that spot. I guess I could have thrown Sora there while giving Auron either Aeris, Ganon, or Zelda.
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