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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 652

MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/16/2009 9:59:03 AM | message detail
Of the original 8 I'd take over Akuma...

Ryu
Ken
Chun-Li

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Guile and Blanka are debatable
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BombLasagna | Posted 2/16/2009 10:02:10 AM | message detail
Honestly, who the hell plays SF to this day? Not a lot of people. If SF2 had been the end of SF (including Turbo here for Akuma), would a single person take Akuma over him? No, I don't think so. How big of a fanbase do you think the rest of the SF games have garnered? My guess is very little, and my assumption would be that the vast majority of SF-clingers are people who were already into the series back in the day. Meaning they have a decent shot of still preferring Honda to him, and even if the majority prefer Akuma, I think the rest of the general gamefaqs public who aren't into the latter SF's support Honda overwhelmingly.

If someone is going to score a blowout in that match, it's going to be Akuma, but I really don't think it's anywhere as close to black and white as you're trying to make it.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/16/2009 10:03:03 AM | message detail
Honestly, who the hell plays SF to this day?

Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo High Def Remix is one of the best selling titles on PSN/XBLA
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BombLasagna | Posted 2/16/2009 10:05:40 AM | message detail
Ok, but those are once again more than likely the same people who were into SF2 back in the day. Obviously there's no way of actually determining this, but I don't think that has much of an effect on it. My argument is who the hell cares about the games that Akuma is actually prominent in?

SF4 makes me wary about this, because I have no idea what his role in that game is.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/16/2009 10:07:25 AM | message detail
Akuma is playable in SF4, but my point is that SSF2THDR is a very popular game right now that Akuma is prominent in. You might of had a debate over E Honda and Akuma a year ago.. But Akuma is righti n the Street fighter limelight with the 2 newest SF games now (He's even the guy on the main online menu background on SSF2THDR)
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 2/16/2009 10:08:02 AM | message detail
looking back at 2007 being well ahead of Geno has to mean something the along the lines of "people know who the hell you are."
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BombLasagna | Posted 2/16/2009 10:08:39 AM | message detail
eh, whatever. I don't care enough/don't know enough about the new SF games to really argue about it. I'll just be the odd man out if for some ungodly reason we get a Akuma/E. Honda match-up.

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BombLasagna | Posted 2/16/2009 10:09:33 AM | message detail
4-ways, etc. etc.

I'm not doubting that Akuma has a solid fanbase. I'm questioning his ceiling against someone who is actually recognizable.

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MegatokyoEd | Posted 2/16/2009 10:16:23 AM | message detail
Akuma has one of the most 'badass' character designs in gaming. Akuma's design alone would probably let him beat E. Honda.
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BombLasagna | Posted 2/16/2009 10:17:05 AM | message detail
no.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/16/2009 10:17:41 AM | message detail
A fat sumo wrestler doesn't have much "Badass" appeal.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 2/16/2009 10:24:13 AM | message detail
E. Honda has no appeal of any variety. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone that truly gives a crap about him. We've seen what happens when badass characters get matched up against characters like that.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/16/2009 10:25:45 AM | message detail
SF2 is one of my top 10 games ever, and I'd vote for almost any character over him.
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/16/2009 10:30:47 AM | message detail
Ryu

Ken
Chun Li
M. Bison

Vega?

Guile
Akuma
Blanka

E. Honda
Sagot
Dhalsim

Balrog
Zangief


Originally I had Vega in Guile's tier, but with his performance today I'm not too sure where to rank him.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/16/2009 10:32:01 AM | message detail
Vega > bison seems pretty clear now

It makes me sad Zangief is so low though. who can actually prefer e honda or dhalsim to him
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transience | Posted 2/16/2009 10:36:02 AM | message detail
Division 8 Round 1: Aeris/Akuma/Geno/Squall

Aeris Gainsborough 25.48% 33367
Akuma 23.05% 30185
Geno 16.14% 21141
Squall Leonhart 35.33% 46278

TOTAL VOTES 130971

that's not a bad showing. I think it's pretty comparable to the situation Scorpion was put in the same year:

Mega Man 30.43% 45857
Yoshi 19.13% 28823
Samus Aran 33.1% 49872
Scorpion 17.34% 26126

TOTAL VOTES 150678

trying to analyze this fourway crap with LFF matches is stupid, but I certainly wouldn't say Akuma bombed. I wouldn't take anyone outside of Ryu/Ken/Chun-Li over him and I'd be a little nervous about Chun-Li.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/16/2009 10:37:22 AM | message detail
We need Cammy in this contest. She'd be stronger then Akuma too
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 2/16/2009 10:38:36 AM | message detail
I'd vote for Cammy's Ass over Cammy.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/16/2009 10:40:11 AM | message detail
Well lucky for you, Cammys ass will likely be in her match pic!
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transience | Posted 2/16/2009 10:41:45 AM | message detail
I think you're all overreacting to today's poll.

Balrog (J:M.Bison) 1.1%
M.Bison (J:Vega) 2.92%
Sagat 3.31%
Vega (J:Balrog) 6.88%

this is awful competition. Vega is winning by default.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/16/2009 10:43:48 AM | message detail

From: transience | #220
I think you're all overreacting to today's poll.

Balrog (J:M.Bison) 1.1%
M.Bison (J:Vega) 2.92%
Sagat 3.31%
Vega (J:Balrog) 6.88%

this is awful competition. Vega is winning by default.


http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Diablo_vs_M._Bison_2005
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transience | Posted 2/16/2009 10:51:57 AM | message detail
it's amazing what bad competition will do for you - people think Bison is noteworthy in the Street Fighter hierarchy because of this. Ken would have torn that contest apart.

every SF2 guy is going to be decent because they're recognizable. put Cait Sith in and he tears that division apart too, but that doesn't mean he's actually worth anything compared to the FF7 cast.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/16/2009 10:53:23 AM | message detail
Diablo is a low mid carder, and Bison nearly beat him. So I'd say Bison is a low mid carder, and Vega might be stronger then diablo.
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transience | Posted 2/16/2009 10:55:52 AM | message detail
and Ryu, Ken, Chun-Li, Blanka, Guile, Akuma and Vega would beat Diablo as well. that doesn't make Bison notable. he's mid-tier amongst his own game.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/16/2009 10:57:06 AM | message detail
You're arguing Vega is weak just due to the competition here. But if he can beat Diablo, which is my point, he is not weak.
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voltch | Posted 2/16/2009 10:59:02 AM | message detail
i want guile vs duke nukem this summer!
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HaRRicH | Posted 2/16/2009 12:03:36 PM | message detail
COME GETCHA' SOME SONIC BOOM


Both of you are right, but I'm ultimately going to say I think Vega would have gone 50/50 with Diablo in 2k5 (I don't think rallying/cheating would have let Diablo easily lose then, otherwise Vega would take it for me), so I think Vega wouldn't be weak. He's not impressive other than beating M. Bison today and he's mid-tier in his game, yes, but this is still respectable enough for me. I wouldn't mind seeing him in a contest.



No. Ken was put up against two Noble Niners and got in the mid thirties both times, I believe. He hasn't been seen in a contest since 2003. Ken deserves more of a shot than Akuma no matter how you spin it. [...] Hell, I'd say Vega, or even Guile are worth more of a spot than Akuma.

I think we have different ideas of what's more worthy. I think I'm putting more worth on getting an opportunity while you're putting more worth on getting a victory. Ken had terrible draws, but he had his chances with the draws too -- Akuma didn't until 2007. Strength-wise, you're right, but I was much more interested in seeing Akuma for his first time than Ken for his third, especially since Ken wasn't a hot-topic for debate around that time.
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BombLasagna | Posted 2/16/2009 12:19:33 PM | message detail
Actually now that I'm thinking of it, Akuma's performance is worse than what I originally believed it to be. Sharing the poll with 3 square/rpg characters, he should have been benefitting as much as any character can from favorable LFF circumstances in 4-ways.

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voltch | Posted 2/16/2009 12:35:45 PM | message detail
surely now Ken will make it,SFIV is gonna be huge,but how did the HD remix do?
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 2/16/2009 12:38:42 PM | message detail
Vega and Bison are probably nearly the same. I don't think there's much of a difference in preference there like it would be with Ken/Ryu or Scorpion/Sub-Zero.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 2/16/2009 12:40:07 PM | message detail

From: BombLasagna | #228
sharing the poll with 3 square/rpg characters


I wouldn't count on Geno LFFing with Aeris and Squall considerably but I can see your point.

the performance was decent enough however. how would you figure any other Street Fighter character not named Ryu to do? not a lot.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/16/2009 12:53:47 PM | message detail

From: MarioSuperstar | #231
I wouldn't count on Geno LFFing with Aeris and Squall considerably but I can see your point.

the performance was decent enough however. how would you figure any other Street Fighter character not named Ryu to do? not a lot.


Ken would of advanced no question... Chunners may have.
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HaRRicH | Posted 2/16/2009 12:58:54 PM | message detail
Well, I just looked at Geno's polls...guess who looks mighty comparable all of a sudden?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2891
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3249

Now, we could argue whether or not Squall/Aeris or Bowser hurt Geno more, but I'm of the opinion they each hurt him some...and Akuma didn't really do much different against Geno from Phoenix Wright last year, and Geno's probably not as far off as those dictate. I know I recently said Akuma/Chun-Li would be a good match, but...this makes me want to take that back in a hurry, especially since Akuma stood out more than Phoenix in those matches.

Two questions: which Street Fighter 2 characters would not beat Phoenix Wright, and will fans of post-SF2 SF-games be particularly loyal to characters that came later in the series?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/16/2009 1:03:09 PM | message detail
Phoenix Wright is stronger in 4 way format. I wouldn't take him to be anywhere near Chunner in 1v1
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HaRRicH | Posted 2/16/2009 1:14:54 PM | message detail
Even still, if the four-way format becomes standard, then Phoenix being a bit stronger doesn't matter so much as Akuma not being far from Phoenix -- they look pretty equal there. Also, if we do consider Phoenix is stronger in this format, we must also consider Akuma benefited to some degree for being not only the only non-RPG but non-Square character in his poll.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 2/16/2009 1:29:32 PM | message detail
that's still pretty cool with me. if Akuma was in today's poll he'd probably be between Vega and Sagat (closer to Bison most likely).
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trannyscience | Posted 2/16/2009 1:31:58 PM | message detail
Phoenix could arguably take Ken now -- he's really grown.

I'd back Ken though. probably take Phoenix over Chun Li however.
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HaRRicH | Posted 2/16/2009 1:41:21 PM | message detail
I'm not taking Phoenix over Ken or Chun-Li. He's grown, but I'm not sold he went from barely beating Bomberman to their level in a year when all he had was Apollo Justice yet. He did do well last year, but I'm not about to gamble anything like that on the guy barring some other favorable opponents.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 2/16/2009 2:21:17 PM | message detail
i wouldn't be surprised if he did beat Chun Li.
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trannyscience | Posted 2/16/2009 2:24:15 PM | message detail
Phoenix gets more popular just from word of mouth. he's really quite unique like that. he's like the black plague, he just spreads and infects everyone.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 2/16/2009 2:37:29 PM | message detail
From: HaRRicH | #233
Two questions: which Street Fighter 2 characters would not beat Phoenix Wright?

Balrog, Zangief, E. Honda, Dhalsim, and possibly Sagat. I'm on the fence about Blanka. God knows how he even came close to Guile. The rest would probably be safe.

Will fans of post-SF2 SF-games be particularly loyal to characters that came later in the series?

I see Dan and Sakura having some support, but I'm not sure about the rest of the SFA/SF3 cast. The only character from 3 who I even get a sense that people care for is Dudley. He had a pretty strong backing for inclusion in the console version of SF4. As for the rest of the cast, I'd wager that people generally care about less than half of the characters in 3. Some are well liked, others are considered god awful. Alpha characters would probably be stronger.
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TheOceIot | Posted 2/16/2009 2:39:42 PM | message detail
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ZFS | Posted 2/16/2009 7:41:55 PM | message detail
Whoa now, I can't possibly see Ken struggling to beat a guy like Phoenix Wright. Chun-Li probably takes him easy, too.

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Gaddswell | Posted 2/16/2009 9:25:42 PM | message detail
Maybe we shouldn't nominate Street Fighter 4 if these poll results keep up...

Got Street Fighter IV?
Yes, with an official joystick too 2.08% 70
Yes, with the official game pad 0.8% 27
Yes, but I'm okay with a regular controller 4.84% 163
No, it's not out where I live yet 23.13% 779
No, I'm not planning to buy it 69.15% 2329
TOTAL VOTES 3368
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/16/2009 9:26:31 PM | message detail
I'm disappointed that we didn't get best new challenger poll :(
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transience | Posted 2/16/2009 9:27:09 PM | message detail
SF4 was obviously not going to have great numbers after it struggled to get 30% against second-tier sequels a few weeks ago.
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 2/16/2009 9:28:08 PM | message detail
Also, where the hell is the "No, not yet" option.

I hate the poll options in these.
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transience | Posted 2/16/2009 9:28:31 PM | message detail
man, it didn't even get 24%

go go go SF4
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ZFS | Posted 2/16/2009 9:30:36 PM | message detail
time to not nominate sfiv !

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/16/2009 9:33:07 PM | message detail
I'm surprised SF4 isn't doing better

I thought it was a really hyped game
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