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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 651

HaRRicH | Posted 1/30/2009 10:41:00 PM | message detail
Hey Albion, how is Warhammer doing today compared to how it did in the PC-GotY?
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Gaddswell | Posted 1/30/2009 10:41:45 PM | message detail
Yeah. SO4 should be in 3rd by the end of the hour!

By the way, what is Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned? It's losing quite comfortably to the FE1 / SO4 / Killzone 2 group.
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_Hogger_ | Posted 1/30/2009 10:44:24 PM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #401
Hey Albion, how is Warhammer doing today compared to how it did in the PC-GotY?


This is a totally different series of Warhammer thats a rts that doesn't appeal to the same demographic...
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_Hogger_ | Posted 1/30/2009 10:44:46 PM | message detail

From: Gaddswell | #402
Yeah. SO4 should be in 3rd by the end of the hour!

By the way, what is Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned? It's losing quite comfortably to the FE1 / SO4 / Killzone 2 group.


Its a DLC for GTA4
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_Hogger_ | Posted 1/30/2009 10:49:48 PM | message detail
Oh, and to solidify my point on Warhammer.

Warhammer Online is a medevil game, and Warhammer 40,000 is a futuristic space game

Just look at the box arts:

40k: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0e/Warhammer_40%2C000_Dawn_of_War_II.jpg
Warhammer Online: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bb/Packfront.gif

They're not the same at all.
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Gaddswell | Posted 1/31/2009 12:03:29 AM | message detail
F.E.A.R. 2: Project Origin 8.58% 1294
Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon 13.84% 2087
Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned 10.48% 1580
Killzone 2 15.03% 2266
The Sims 3 8.91% 1343
Star Ocean: The Last Hope 13.7% 2065
Street Fighter IV 24.83% 3743
Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II 4.62% 697
TOTAL VOTES 15075

Huh, FE still holding off SO. Killzone has 2nd though!
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Gaddswell | Posted 1/31/2009 12:28:04 AM | message detail
There we go! SO4 in 3rd now.

F.E.A.R. 2: Project Origin 8.68% 1414
Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon 13.63% 2221
Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned 10.42% 1697
Killzone 2 14.96% 2437
The Sims 3 8.86% 1444
Star Ocean: The Last Hope 13.73% 2237
Street Fighter IV 24.95% 4065
Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II 4.77% 777
TOTAL VOTES 16292
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 1/31/2009 6:02:08 AM | message detail
Pretty mediocre selection this month, but still gonna be better than the rest of the year.

Eh, we're due for a slow year after two awesome years in gaming.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/31/2009 9:49:35 AM | message detail
has CJay or.. bacon ever taken down noms on a Saturday?
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_Hogger_ | Posted 1/31/2009 9:58:41 AM | message detail

From: MarioSuperstar | #409
has CJay or.. bacon ever taken down noms on a Saturday?


He takes weekends off.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 1/31/2009 10:48:47 AM | message detail
cn's updater worked in the Spring contest? Huh, I didn't know/remember that.

Yep, he started it midway through the first round! GoldenEye/PDS was the first one ever, if I recall correctly.
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voltch | Posted 1/31/2009 11:46:54 AM | message detail
tag.,wtf late tag...damn it's been a while.
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Gaddswell | Posted 1/31/2009 4:21:03 PM | message detail
So... FE ended up dipping down to 12.5% before coming back up to 13.75%. SO's been consistent, though it's dropped a bit in the day, Killzone went up by 0.2%, GTA went up by about 1%, and SFIV gave up about 2%. Others didn't seem to have changed much.
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 2/1/2009 11:51:35 AM | message detail
augh wheres the bracket
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HaRRicH | Posted 2/1/2009 1:01:38 PM | message detail
Forget the bracket for a second, where's the Superbowl-poll?
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Xuxon | Posted 2/1/2009 1:09:14 PM | message detail
Yeah the lack of a Superbowl poll confused me as well.
booomshakalaka | Posted 2/1/2009 1:38:18 PM | message detail
bacon's too busy cross-dressing to know about manly ongoings

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charmander6000 | Posted 2/1/2009 5:18:30 PM | message detail
Super Bowl? Is that some kind of giant bowl or something?
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Congratulations to FastFalcon for winning the guru contest, you are the best among the best.
M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 2/1/2009 8:52:30 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #418
Super Bowl? Is that some kind of giant bowl or something?


It's some football game they decided to hold to celebrate a special episode of The Office.

Though nearly five hours just to celebrate a one-hour show seems a bit extreme, but in all fairness it was an awesome episode.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 2/2/2009 6:47:07 AM | message detail
SBAllen may be late as hell in getting this contest running, but at least the man has taste.
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/2/2009 7:23:15 AM | message detail
I'm almost positive that SBAllen started nominations early so we would be quiet. Still he only has a few days left to finish nominations if he wants to start the contest by March.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/2/2009 11:43:11 AM | message detail
I'm almost positive that SBAllen started nominations early so we would be quiet.

He thought we'd be quiet if noms are up for over 2 months?
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GameZACKS | Posted 2/2/2009 12:05:32 PM | message detail
2.5-3.5 hours til noms go down and/or BRACKETS

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 2/2/2009 12:07:39 PM | message detail
i wish.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 2/2/2009 5:11:01 PM | message detail
Nominations will close two weeks from now.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/2/2009 5:11:25 PM | message detail
summer 2009 game contest
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 2/2/2009 5:23:42 PM | message detail
Nominations will close two weeks from now.

oh god.

how many nominations do we have now..?
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 2/2/2009 5:26:32 PM | message detail
I wish we had a damn banner.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 2/2/2009 8:38:48 PM | message detail

From: MyWorldIsCrono | #426
summer 2009 game contest


Summer 2010 Game Contest.
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Gaddswell | Posted 2/3/2009 2:07:42 AM | message detail
We`re not gonna have a character battle this year, as this is gonna take it`s place in the fall, isn`t it?
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 2/3/2009 2:13:30 AM | message detail
Also looking at yesterday's poll, the average GameFAQs family has 2.7 children. That's using 5.5 for the 5+ option.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 2/3/2009 5:16:35 AM | message detail
Bacon went to bed earlier last night.

sign for things to come?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 2/3/2009 6:31:48 AM | message detail

From: MarioSuperstar | #432
Bacon went to bed earlier last night.

sign for things to come?


lol
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Xuxon | Posted 2/3/2009 12:34:49 PM | message detail
Also looking at yesterday's poll, the average GameFAQs family has 2.7 children. That's using 5.5 for the 5+ option.

Actually, 1 person voting for the top option is representing their entire family, but someone who has 2 siblings only represents 1/3 of their family, so their votes need to be discounted appropriately to find the true average number of children per family. Taking the total votes and dividing by the discounted total (using 6 siblings as the average for the last option), I get 2.18 as the average number of children per family.
The n00b Avenger | Posted 2/3/2009 12:37:54 PM | message detail
My brain doesn't even comprehend that post. Can you phrase it in a way a 6 year old would understand
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charmander6000 | Posted 2/3/2009 12:44:54 PM | message detail
So the person voting doesn't count as being in the family on GameFAQs?
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Xuxon | Posted 2/3/2009 12:58:47 PM | message detail
Yeah I knew right after I posted that that wasn't going to be a good enough explanation. Imagine a population where nobody has more than 1 sibling and the total population is 200 million. Half of the people have 1 sibling, the other half have none. So every single child represents 1 couple that had 1 child, for 100 million couples that had 1 child. Every pair of siblings represents 1 couple that had 2 children, for 50 million couples that had 2 children. So in actuality, there are twice as many single-child families as 2-child families.

Now imagine that exact poll being given to 10000 random people in this population. The results should be near 50/50, even without many actual pairs of siblings voting in the poll, but as just stated, single-child families are twice as common. The average number of children per family is 4/3, but ngirl's method would make it look like 3/2.

Then take this idea and just extrapolate it further. You take the sum of the number of votes for option 1 + half the votes of option 2 + a third the votes of option 3, etc, and divide that into the total number of votes to get the average per family. 105590 / (13511 + 20638 + 9539 + 3039 + 943 + 759) = 2.18.
M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 2/3/2009 3:26:52 PM | message detail
So you're pretty much assuming that for every person with siblings that voted, all their siblings also voted? I see that accounting for maybe 1-2% of the voting of each category above no siblings. I really doubt that a significant portion of GameFAQers who have siblings also had their siblings vote in the same poll. How many people do you know on GameFAQs who are siblings of each other?

As for the contest, I predict we'll see a surprise upset from future Best Game Ever champion Resident Evil 5.

Or hell, Duke Nukem Forever.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 2/3/2009 3:30:37 PM | message detail
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 2/3/2009 3:32:38 PM | message detail
Actually from what I understand that's not what he was saying. Obviously it's not something that simple, as generally it would be counteracted by the fact that only one vote per household is allowed and the odds of a sibling living in a different area and also browsing GameFAQs probably made up less than 1% of the voters.

That's not what he was saying, but I'm still too stupid to understand what he was really trying to say X_X I don't understand the logic, since the given example uses a scenario that reaches a result by starting at a preconceived notion of 'there is X population and the make up is this' or something like that, but that's not the case in a poll like this. I know the guidelines were given for simplicity sake, but it seems to me that without those specific guidelines, that's scenario that wouldn't apply. I don't know, for someone of average intelligence such as myself its hard to explain
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TheOceIot | Posted 2/3/2009 3:50:42 PM | message detail
How many nominations are we up to Luster?
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paulg235 | Posted 2/3/2009 4:30:54 PM | message detail
And now the sticky is closed. Goes to show how long we've been waiting for.
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 2/3/2009 4:31:13 PM | message detail
Welp, the sticky is officially filled. It's only a matter of time now.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 2/3/2009 4:40:44 PM | message detail

From: The n00b Avenger | #440
Actually from what I understand that's not what he was saying. Obviously it's not something that simple, as generally it would be counteracted by the fact that only one vote per household is allowed and the odds of a sibling living in a different area and also browsing GameFAQs probably made up less than 1% of the voters.


I re-read it and that does seem to be what he's suggesting. I guess he just didn't notice that most people's siblings here wouldn't also vote in said poll. A pretty big detail, but one I could see being overlooked.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 2/3/2009 5:25:34 PM | message detail
How many nominations are we up to Luster?

115401


Also, a new poll search option was put up yesterday:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html

However, it has the disadvantage of only being able to show the first 50 results. This could be useful for making up poll ideas, or maybe just looking up a contest match.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 2/3/2009 6:49:24 PM | message detail
maybe bacon is just busy
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booomshakalaka | Posted 2/3/2009 6:52:39 PM | message detail
*lazy
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TheOceIot | Posted 2/3/2009 6:54:42 PM | message detail
*a terrible admin
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Gaddswell | Posted 2/3/2009 7:17:21 PM | message detail
*goose
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 2/3/2009 8:52:17 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?search=got

Yeah, a real shame it only has a 50-poll limit. I want to see how much the admins overused the gimmick.
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