GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 651
| Half There | Posted 1/19/2009 8:15:42 AM | message detail |
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What won last bes tgame ever? FFVII, or OOT? --- ...he loves dancing, on the other hand. What is art if not... girls in skin-tight, translucent outfits heaving and grinding onstage? - Lava |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 1/19/2009 8:15:53 AM | message detail |
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From: LeonhartFour | #247 That came to my mind before, and I think it'd be a solid idea. It'd make the first rounds that much more interesting, while still keeping the tense 1v1 matches of the later rounds. Of course, you'd have to make it so that only the first game ends up advancing each four-pack, and that right there would both rob a lot of the excitement of four-packs and lead to some possible snubs of beloved games. And if you kept two advancing, they'd just face each other in Round 2 anyway unless Bacon did seeding based on their performances or something, and even that could be misleading and could lead to a crappy bracket. It's a good idea in theory, but it would need major tweaking to work in practice. --- Fallout 3 Fallout 3 Fallout 3 Fallout 3 Fallout 3 Fallout 3 Fallout 3 Fallout 3 Fallout 3 Fallout 3 Fallout 3 Fallout 3 Fallout 3 Fallout 3 Fallout 3 Fallout 3 |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 1/19/2009 8:16:39 AM | message detail |
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From: Half There | #251 Super Mario Bros. 3. Yeah, that's right. That sounds good. --- Fallout 3 Fallout 3 Fallout 3 Fallout 3 Fallout 3 Fallout 3 Fallout 3 Fallout 3 Fallout 3 Fallout 3 Fallout 3 Fallout 3 Fallout 3 Fallout 3 Fallout 3 Fallout 3 |
| charmander6000 | Posted 1/19/2009 8:27:43 AM | message detail |
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FFVII with no trouble, OoT was only able to get 46.18% --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls Congratulations to FastFalcon for winning the guru contest, you are the best among the best. |
| BDawg | Posted 1/19/2009 12:11:35 PM | message detail |
| You could make it like the world cup or something
where winner of group A faces runner-up of Group B and vice versa, but
yeah that's too complicated to ever happen. --- Should I start running now? |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/19/2009 12:12:33 PM | message detail |
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From: LeonhartFour | #247 this is a great idea --- http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n266/Mike_S_02/Baltimore_Ravens_Sig.jpg |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 1/19/2009 12:21:37 PM | message detail |
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And for the record, I don't think Fallout 3 is going to look quite as
good as it appeared in the final GOTY poll. It'll do pretty well, but I
don't see it challenging MGS4 or Brawl one-on-one. PC voters seem to be
pretty devoted, but it's still not that large of a demographic on
GameFAQs. --- FastFalcon is without a doubt the best Guru I've ever heard of, savvy? http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/19/2009 12:22:03 PM | message detail |
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PC voters seem to be pretty devoted, but it's still not that large of a demographic on GameFAQs. "lol" --- http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n266/Mike_S_02/Baltimore_Ravens_Sig.jpg |
| TRE Public Account | Posted 1/19/2009 12:29:31 PM | message detail |
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PC voters seem to be pretty devoted, but it's still not that large of a demographic on GameFAQs. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3363 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3364 Dropping 6 games caused Fallout 3 to do slight better against MGS4 and slightly worse against SSBB. If Fallout 3 was relying on a hardcore fanbase, it would have fallen off a lot more than 1% against SSBB. --- Not even a spread of 197 points would allowed me to defeat FastFalcon05! Congrats on winning the Character Battle 7 Guru Contest! |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/19/2009 12:31:34 PM | message detail |
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That plus its hardly a PC fanbase voting for Fallout 3. You can use the excuse its a PC series, but then look at this: "Sales for Fallout 3 have thus far been very high, and figures suggest that the game has outsold all previous Fallout games (including spin-offs) in its first week." Its hardly basing its popularity off the old series. Its as much of a console game as any game that gives simulataneous release on 360, PS3, and PC at the same time. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n266/Mike_S_02/Baltimore_Ravens_Sig.jpg |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 1/19/2009 12:52:12 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, 4-ways morphing into 1v1s is a great idea in theory,
but the trouble is that in practice we end up with a Contest running
120+ days. Which is too long to keep interest up by like 50 days, from
what I've seen. The only way it could be run in a reasonable timeframe
would be to only allow the #1 finisher to advance to the round of 32...
and if you do that, you just as well could have done a normal bracket,
because honestly, how many times are more than 2 games going to have a
legit shot at first? --- thengamer.com/guru/ says we just got owned hard by FastFalcon! (thengamer.com/xstats & board8.wikia.com are neat) |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/19/2009 12:54:50 PM | message detail |
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Problem with limiting it to 64 though is that we'll miss out on way too
many games, and we're so used to 128 now. Once you go to a higher
number you can't really trim back without people getting upset about
it. Plus the 15 noms pretty much confirms we're getting 128 anyway. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n266/Mike_S_02/Baltimore_Ravens_Sig.jpg |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/19/2009 12:56:44 PM | message detail |
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Also, the whole point of the contest is to drive hits up since we see
that we get many more votes then normal in the contest matches. Why
would Bacon NOT want it to take as long as possible to keep hits up? --- http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n266/Mike_S_02/Baltimore_Ravens_Sig.jpg |
| redrocket | Posted 1/19/2009 2:40:22 PM | message detail |
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128 games one on one 2 matches a day is something I'd still like to
see. It should be tried out once at least to see how it goes... --- From his looks Magus is Macho Man Randy Savage as an anime zombie. The black wind howls, and one of you will snap into a Slim Jim ooh yeeeah! -sonicblastpunch |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/19/2009 2:41:51 PM | message detail |
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From: redrocket | #264 while still 1v1, I'd be up for that since It can help curb the boring days of total blowouts --- http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n266/Mike_S_02/Baltimore_Ravens_Sig.jpg |
| Team Rocket Elite | Posted 1/19/2009 3:08:22 PM | message detail |
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Plus the 15 noms pretty much confirms we're getting 128 anyway. The previous games contest had 73 noms. The 2006 Character Battle contest had 14 noms. Also SBAllen has never done a 64 entry contest before so we're not sure if he would do the same things as CJayC did. --- Not even a spread of 105 points would allowed me to defeat FastFalcon05! Congrats on winning the Character Battle 7 Guru Contest! |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/19/2009 3:09:23 PM | message detail |
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The previous games contest had 73 noms. ...wha? --- http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n266/Mike_S_02/Baltimore_Ravens_Sig.jpg |
| trannyscience | Posted 1/19/2009 3:13:44 PM | message detail |
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one per platform. that fourway for round 1 only idea sounds dumb. round 2 would be the boringest thing ever since you'd have already seen the result. the only exception would be weird SFF matches. --- xyzzy |
| greatone10 | Posted 1/19/2009 3:14:34 PM | message detail |
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The one per platform may have been the stupidest idea for a nomination system ever. --- Donkey Kong Country 2 for next Games contest. I hereby bow to FastFalcon who FastFalcon Punched my bracket. |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/19/2009 3:14:50 PM | message detail |
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Oh right the one per platform but really that was just like 10-15 since thats all the platforms that really stood a chance to get games in --- http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n266/Mike_S_02/Baltimore_Ravens_Sig.jpg |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 1/19/2009 3:26:52 PM | message detail |
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To comment on the Best of 2008 polls since I haven't been on in a while: - lol brawl. MGS4 and Fallout 3 both coming that close to it doesn't inspire much confidence - lol crisis core. Told you both WoW and CT would beat it. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| Team Rocket Elite | Posted 1/19/2009 3:57:33 PM | message detail |
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- lol crisis core. Told you both WoW and CT would beat it. 5.54% vs 5.78% vs 6.21% Sure WoW and CT did better, but I'm not sure I'd say it's a win worth bragging about. --- Not even a spread of 105 points would allowed me to defeat FastFalcon05! Congrats on winning the Character Battle 7 Guru Contest! |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 1/19/2009 5:20:43 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, 4-ways morphing into 1v1s is a great idea in theory, but the
trouble is that in practice we end up with a Contest running 120+ days. No. First round = 32 days, 1v1 rounds = 63 days. It's still long, but much shorter than 120 days. --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. |
| Yesmar | Posted 1/19/2009 5:28:15 PM | message detail |
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I don't know who proposed this, but it might also be something where
the top 32 nominations get byes and then we see the others face off to
see who goes against them in the next round. That would only extend the
contest a month. And if you think that's too long, don't follow it! --- FastFalcon owned me in the Guru Contest! |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 1/20/2009 12:00:04 AM | message detail |
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that fourway for round 1 only idea sounds dumb. round 2 would be the
boringest thing ever since you'd have already seen the result. the only
exception would be weird SFF matches. When I first suggested this a few topics back, I proposed that you shuffle the winners around so that 2 games that advanced in the first round would be far apart in the second. Of course that does lead to a REALLY complicated bracket. Then again, that just means many less brackets to worry about. If people got confused during both 4 way contests, imagine what that would do to them. The other suggestion I made was to have 3 32-game brackets, then have a 3-way poll for the whole anchilada. Then of course people will ***** and moan that "OoT got screwed by Mario 3" or "Final Fantasy 7 got screwed by Chrono Trigger" or other such Serious Business nonsense. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| Masato_Tanaka | Posted 1/20/2009 12:01:18 AM | message detail |
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O_o @ Leon's post. 4 ways...and 1 v 1? Ludicrous --- The Straight Up G The Palace of Wisdom Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 1/20/2009 12:10:08 AM | message detail |
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Whoops, of course you're right Mac, don't know what I was thinking.
Still, that would be a 95 day Contest, which still seems like it would
test the patience of the casuals by a good 20 days or so. If we're going to do something in that vein, I like Yesmar's idea the best. Except I still don't like the idea of fourways with only one game advancing; just seems that too often the weakest 1 or 2 games would never have a chance and only be there to clutter things up. So how about if the 32 top entrants are given byes to Round 2, and then R1 consists of three way matches with only the #1 finisher from each advancing? We would still get to see 128 games in action, and with the heaviest hitters like OoT/FF7/RE4/Mario3 etc etc out of the way, I think there would be plenty of opportunities for fatal threeways where you'd be able to make a good case for any game in the poll. And I doubt there would be more than just a couple matchups where the winner would be set in stone, given how little we know about anything except the top 20 or so games on this site. R2 ought to be really good as well under that system... sure you're going to have the FF7s of the world scoring blowouts, but I bet there will also be plenty of games like Fallout 3 and MGS4 and CoD4 finishing in those top 32 nom positions. Popular, certainly, but anything in that range could easily get knocked out by a well-liked older game that just didn't have the hype to dominate nominations in the same way. --- thengamer.com/guru/ says we just got owned hard by FastFalcon! (thengamer.com/xstats & board8.wikia.com are neat) |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/20/2009 5:23:30 AM | message detail |
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- lol crisis core. Told you both WoW and CT would beat it. the top 3 games probably were so much popular that it made the rest seem almost equal to each other. i'd still argue that the result is STILL unknown. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 1/20/2009 9:17:54 AM | message detail |
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Yeah, considering the top three options got 66.28% of the poll and
fourth place beat each of the games you mentioned by at least 1.5%
(plus the top four games together add up to 73.99%)...yeah, there is a
big chance that it's not entirely accurate and it's hard to brag about. --- FastFalcon05 absolutely decimated me in the Guru challenge. How bad was it? ...I don't want to talk about it. |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/20/2009 11:05:20 AM | message detail |
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I don't really think we know the strengths of the games below the big 3. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n266/Mike_S_02/Baltimore_Ravens_Sig.jpg |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/20/2009 11:42:41 AM | message detail |
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well i certainly wouldnt take Persona 4 to be on the same level as those games. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 1/20/2009 11:43:30 AM | message detail |
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From: MarioSuperstar | #272 well i certainly wouldnt take Persona 4 to be on the same level as those games. A fatal mistake, my friend. --- "feh... your right...I am the stalker" - ExThaNemesis http://www.rosebride.com/lyn/otakon2k6/chronotrigger.jpg |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 1/20/2009 12:20:00 PM | message detail |
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128 games one on one 2 matches a day is something I'd still like to
see. It should be tried out once at least to see how it goes... It would totally curbstomp vote totals for at least one, if not both, matches. We've already seen how badly vote totals suffer when there's more than one POTD from the first Games Contest, matter of fact. --- FastFalcon is without a doubt the best Guru I've ever heard of, savvy? http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/20/2009 12:21:27 PM | message detail |
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From: LeonhartFour | #283 There's an easy fix to that. Just force you to vote for each match before you can click vote --- http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n266/Mike_S_02/Baltimore_Ravens_Sig.jpg |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 1/20/2009 12:35:33 PM | message detail |
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That's stupid and all it would result in is causing more people not to vote at all than vote more. --- FastFalcon is without a doubt the best Guru I've ever heard of, savvy? http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/20/2009 12:36:23 PM | message detail |
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...Why? Are you saying people are so lazy then can't click an extra circle? --- http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n266/Mike_S_02/Baltimore_Ravens_Sig.jpg |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 1/20/2009 12:37:11 PM | message detail |
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No, I'm saying forcing people to vote on matchups they don't care to
vote on will result in them not voting at all more than causing them to
vote for both. --- FastFalcon is without a doubt the best Guru I've ever heard of, savvy? http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| ZFS | Posted 1/20/2009 12:39:52 PM | message detail |
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A standard, 64-entry, 1v1 contest is the way to go here. No need to complicate things. --- Enough expository banter! Now we fight like men! And ladies! And ladies who dress like men! |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/20/2009 12:42:47 PM | message detail |
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From: ZFS | #288 booooring --- http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n266/Mike_S_02/Baltimore_Ravens_Sig.jpg |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 1/20/2009 12:44:41 PM | message detail |
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64 entries, 1 v 1 is the way to go. --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 1/20/2009 12:47:08 PM | message detail |
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Everyone already knows your opinion on the matter, so you can stop giving it. --- FastFalcon is without a doubt the best Guru I've ever heard of, savvy? http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 1/20/2009 12:49:11 PM | message detail |
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Why do you guys keep responding to him I don't understand this. --- "feh... your right...I am the stalker" - ExThaNemesis http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b146/KleenexTissue501/Saturn.gif |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 1/20/2009 2:50:22 PM | message detail |
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Completely agree that a standard 1v1 with 64 is the way to go here in
'09. Depending on how things go though, I'm going to keep that "top 32
get byes" idea in mind for next time around; just an interesting
proposal. NOM UPDATE! We're now up to 71.5k total game choices having been sent in. As you'll recall we had 40k sent during the six B8-only weeks, so there have already been over 30k submitted in the mere 5 days that the link has been on the front page. Should only take a couple more days before the casuals catch up and then overtake us. --- thengamer.com/guru/ says we just got owned hard by FastFalcon! (thengamer.com/xstats & board8.wikia.com are neat) |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/20/2009 3:07:29 PM | message detail |
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I wonder how fast it would be going if there was a banner --- http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n266/Mike_S_02/Baltimore_Ravens_Sig.jpg |
| redrocket | Posted 1/20/2009 4:33:35 PM | message detail |
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It would totally curbstomp vote totals for at least one, if not
both, matches. We've already seen how badly vote totals suffer when
there's more than one POTD from the first Games Contest, matter of fact. I don't really get why this is such a big deal, honestly. Why does it really matter if votals are a little bit lower? --- From his looks Magus is Macho Man Randy Savage as an anime zombie. The black wind howls, and one of you will snap into a Slim Jim ooh yeeeah! -sonicblastpunch |
| red sox 777 | Posted 1/20/2009 4:40:30 PM | message detail |
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don't know why that should be the case, but it's true at least for me.
To use a bit of hyperbole...would you care about these contests if
total votes only came to 1000 or so? --- Link he come to town |
| trannyscience | Posted 1/20/2009 4:42:29 PM | message detail |
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I don't see why you guys want to make this needlessly complicated. I'm
convinced you guys are trying to one-up each other in ludicrousness. ...that's it. let's have 5-way matches where 2 advance, where round 2 turns into a 3 way and 1 advances, at which point we reseed the bracket based on how many votes each entrant got and go 1-on-1 from there. it'll be great! --- xyzzy |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 1/20/2009 4:43:06 PM | message detail |
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64-way poll tbqh. --- "feh... your right...I am the stalker" - ExThaNemesis http://64.81.113.250/a-kon-12/000177.jpg |
| red sox 777 | Posted 1/20/2009 4:43:55 PM | message detail |
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How about we just have Link face each competitor consecutively for 63
days? It's a games contest? Uh.....do the same thing with FFVII then! --- Link he come to town |
| HaRRicH | Posted 1/20/2009 4:44:37 PM | message detail |
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dont forget the battle royale when there are fifteen games left --- FastFalcon05 absolutely decimated me in the Guru challenge. How bad was it? ...I don't want to talk about it. |
