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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 650

hailEC | Posted 1/14/2009 4:30:45 PM | message detail
Not everyone voting MGS4 has to own a PS3 you know. Like me.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/14/2009 4:33:51 PM | message detail
Or me to my ETERNAL shame why is it so pricey
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/14/2009 4:37:10 PM | message detail
I think FO3 has a shot at second or first also, though I think it could also potentially get beaten pretty badly tomorrow if people see it as SSBB vs. MGS4 (think what happened to Cloud in the final, except on a much smaller scale). As I've said, I still think Brawl is more independent than MGS4 (I would love for it to finish in last tomorrow, and it's not impossible!), precisely because of MGS4's smaller, more hardcore, PS3 fanbase. Most of the people who own a PS3 also own a Wii or 360 or both. The Wii should have by far the most people who only own a Wii out of all the consoles this generation. As for loyalty....when has a loyal fanbase ever helped in a multi-way poll? This has probably been the theory that has been brought up the most over the past 2 years, but we have yet to see any evidence whatsoever that having a loyal fanbase helps, perhaps because the fanbases that are the most loyal are often the least independent.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/14/2009 4:40:36 PM | message detail
My prediction for tomorrow:

SSBB: 35%
Fallout 3: 33%
Metal Gear Solid 4: 32%
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/14/2009 4:40:38 PM | message detail
Right, but it certainly helps to own one. It's not like SSBB where you can just pick it up and play with a friend at his place. If you don't own a PS3, you probably need to rent one with MGS4, find a friend who will let you borrow it with MGS4, or play it at said friend's house...and then decide MGS4 has been the best game of the year.

I don't think MGS4 gets many votes like yours. To be fair, LBP/VC got more votes than PS3-ownership the other day, but MGS4 isn't way beyond its competition here like LBP. It's still going to have to battle two huge games that are already close to it, and 36.59% ownership is much more acceptable in a nine-way poll than a three-way.
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/14/2009 4:44:02 PM | message detail
Well, we may get to see what the loyalty means tomorrow because we now have a general idea of the loyalty-ceiling for this case (36.59%). We don't really get that with the characters...though it may not be as good of a test, either, since this is a three-way instead of a four-way.
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trannyscience | Posted 1/14/2009 4:44:13 PM | message detail
Fallout 3 is a near-lock for last tomorrow - I have a hard time seeing what is essentially a new IP to a lot of people permeate GameFAQs so quickly. it's done great to get here, but I just can't see it pulling in 35% tomorrow. I'll let it surprise me and write it off for the time being.

as for Brawl and MGS4, there's only a thousand votes separating these two and a hell of a lot of votes to go around. either one can win and there's nothing concrete to suggest either one will.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/14/2009 4:45:37 PM | message detail
You heard it here first MGS4 is a lock
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/14/2009 4:46:51 PM | message detail

From: trannyscience | #357
Fallout 3 is a near-lock for last tomorrow - I have a hard time seeing what is essentially a new IP to a lot of people permeate GameFAQs so quickly. it's done great to get here, but I just can't see it pulling in 35% tomorrow. I'll let it surprise me and write it off for the time being.

as for Brawl and MGS4, there's only a thousand votes separating these two and a hell of a lot of votes to go around. either one can win and there's nothing concrete to suggest either one will.


The people who are voting for Gears of War or WoW are definently potential voters for FO3 though, so I don't see it as that crazy to see FO3 get that much percentage. Not likely but not impossible
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trannyscience | Posted 1/14/2009 4:46:54 PM | message detail
hey KH list your top 5 games
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/14/2009 4:47:37 PM | message detail
that's a low blow
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/14/2009 4:48:22 PM | message detail
Well, what if MGS4 faced, say, Tetris in a 1v1? I highly doubt many people in here would take Tetris, and I don't think anyone wouldn't take MGS4 to get a higher percentage than its playrate. The fewer options there are, the more likely it is that someone who hasn't played MGS4 will vote for it. If you haven't played MGS4, with 8 other options, you can probably find one you like. With only 2 other options, what do you do if you haven't played or do not like either of SSBB/Fallout 3? What if you thought the others were mediocre but heard lots of good things about MGS4?
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/14/2009 4:51:58 PM | message detail
I should also clarify something else: MGS4 will almost certainly get 30+% tomorrow. My point was that to break 30% would mean it's already getting 82% of the PS3-support (votes like EC's and KH's aside for now). With FO3 on the PS3 and SSBB for the "second system" that about half of the PS3-owners here have, how much more can you expect it to do?
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/14/2009 4:55:07 PM | message detail
I do think some voters vote off of impressions rather than opinions if they've not played any of the games, yeah...but FO3 and GTA4 have won the most GotY-awards in general, and I think only GameSpot gave MGS4 their GotY. For people who may vote based on what they have heard about the games, FO3 should have the advantage.
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FastFalcon05 absolutely decimated me in the Guru challenge. How bad was it?
...I don't want to talk about it.
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/14/2009 4:58:25 PM | message detail
yeah there was a kotaku article showing the goty awards from major sites for all games, and Fallout 3 had 7 game of the year awards from major gaming sites (the most of any game if you include only gaming sites since GTA4 also had 7 but it had goty from places like time magazine and new york post)
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/14/2009 5:00:35 PM | message detail
I don't believe in this ceiling. For one thing, Brawl and FO3 don't have 100% playrates here- not even close. There is a sizable group of people that haven't played or do not like any of these games. And if games are really capped by their playership, how does anything from CT ever blow out anything? Finally, MGS4 could get in excess of 5% tomorrow from the Melee fanbase (because Brawl is the worst thing ever), and probably is already getting some support today. I'm serious about that.
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hailEC | Posted 1/14/2009 5:04:20 PM | message detail

I don't think MGS4 gets many votes like yours. To be fair, LBP/VC got more votes than PS3-ownership the other day, but MGS4 isn't way beyond its competition here like LBP.


While true, LBP also doesn't have the godly namesake of MGS, which undoubtedly draws votes from hardcore MGSers regardless of whether or not they've actually played the 4th yet.

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HaRRicH | Posted 1/14/2009 5:12:17 PM | message detail
Yeah, MGS is a big enough series to do it too. FO3 has been able to keep up today and will have a lot of x-factors in its favor tomorrow though, so it would become a matter of whether or not the MGS-name is enough to fend it off.

Should be fun to watch.
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Mumei | Posted 1/14/2009 5:42:57 PM | message detail
"You never asked."

Karma's top 10 games, as of yesterday:

9:24 PM karmahunter@gmail.com:

1. Metal Gear Solid
2. Ninja Gaiden Black
3. Xenogears
4. Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance
5. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
6. We <3 Katamari
7. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
8. Prince of Persia: Sands of Time
9. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
10. Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem

9:30 karmahunter@gmail.com:

man I just realized if MGS had never existed my favorite game until 2004 would've been a ZELDA GAME

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trannyscience | Posted 1/14/2009 5:48:03 PM | message detail
dammit list spoilers

I want to see this Xenogears writeup dammit
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/14/2009 5:50:44 PM | message detail
damage control time

If the MGS series had never existed I was clearly going to buy Xenogears instead and thus no Zelda would have everr topped my list

never you mind that I was on an anti-Square kick when I got MGS
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Mumei | Posted 1/14/2009 5:52:38 PM | message detail
damage control time

If the MGS series had never existed I was clearly going to buy Xenogears instead and thus no Zelda would have everr topped my list

never you mind that I was on an anti-Square kick when I got MGS


You have Majora's Mask higher than I do, and my list is a tenth of the size of yours.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/14/2009 5:53:50 PM | message detail
Nothing too out of the ordi- wait W Love Katamari? Seriously?

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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/14/2009 5:55:30 PM | message detail
Man what is wrong with having the Katamari game with the best blend of gameplay (makes KD nearly unplayable) and atmosphere? Sure the music is inferior on the whole but thanks to song selection playing Everlasting Love is more than just a solution, it's a feature!
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 1/14/2009 6:01:30 PM | message detail
Well now... Watch us get Riku/Bowser in the first round next Character Battle. Apparently, someone thinks it's just not a character battle without Riku getting fed to some green animal in the first round :(
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trannyscience | Posted 1/14/2009 6:20:59 PM | message detail
Katamari 2 is awesome. definitely the best of the three.

did you find the third boring and bland like I did?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/14/2009 6:37:30 PM | message detail
I actually haven't played Beautiful yet, though I plan to acquire it soon. I did go through Me and My though, and even putting the controls aside it just didn't have the same "charm", I guess you could say.
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trannyscience | Posted 1/14/2009 6:38:15 PM | message detail
Beautiful is better in every way, but for some reason it isn't as fun. haven't figured it out.
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ZFS | Posted 1/14/2009 7:05:46 PM | message detail
Hey, nice, MGS4 held on.

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red sox 777 | Posted 1/14/2009 7:32:32 PM | message detail
While Brawl could still win tomorrow.....which of these games, if any, do you take over Brawl 1v1 right now?

Metal Gear Solid 4
Super Smash Bros. Melee
Twilight Princess
Final Fantasy X
Super Mario 64
Super Mario World
The Legend of Zelda
Final Fantasy Tactics
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 1/14/2009 7:37:21 PM | message detail
What I'm really worried about is the Brawl-Galaxy-TP triangle. Which one is the strongest? I'm thinking Galaxy since it wasn't released to deafening hype unlike Brawl and TP.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/14/2009 7:40:45 PM | message detail
I'm pretty sure the KD creator ditched the series after We <3 Katamari, so that may be the reason.

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HaRRicH | Posted 1/14/2009 7:44:59 PM | message detail
Methinks LoZ:TP > SSBB > SMG right now, but it's still hard to say.

One-on-one, I would still take SSBB over MGS4, SM64, SMW, LoZ, and FFT. I would have to take LoZ:TP and FFX over it for now though...and I'm torn on SSBB/SSBM.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/14/2009 7:45:59 PM | message detail
i'm at least convinced TP > Galaxy.

I wouldnt take Brawl over either.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 1/14/2009 8:24:33 PM | message detail
which of these games, if any, do you take over Brawl 1v1 right now?

Metal Gear Solid 4
Super Smash Bros. Melee
Twilight Princess
Final Fantasy X
Super Mario 64
Super Mario World
The Legend of Zelda
Final Fantasy Tactics


I'd take Brawl over LoZ (I can't help but think that NES games as a whole will tank in the upcoming contest), FFT (Ramza nearly losing to LAHARL, of all characters, leaves a bad taste in my mouth), MGS4, SM64 (Granted, it got the worst possible draw and got its face kicked in by OoT, but...), and SMW. I'd likely take TP over it and maybe FFX. As for Melee/Brawl, I'm rather torn on that one.
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/14/2009 8:57:42 PM | message detail
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/14/2009 8:58:23 PM | message detail
I expect fallout 3 to not look so hot first hour but should start looking better over night and during the day like today, so dont write it off yet after first 5 min
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/14/2009 9:02:54 PM | message detail
augh board votez

c'mon MGS4 fight through the Brawl Power Hour
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Ngamer64 | Posted 1/14/2009 9:06:07 PM | message detail
Brawl power hour? Is there even such a thing? I thought MGS4 was off to a decent lead pretty much from the get-go last night.

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ZFS | Posted 1/14/2009 9:06:56 PM | message detail
Gotta see what happens the next couple of updates. Brawl did well the first five minutes, then MGS4 took off after that.

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xp1337 | Posted 1/14/2009 9:09:41 PM | message detail
Actually, wasn't Brawl trailing MGS4 at the freeze yesterday? And then it took the lead on the next update. MGS4 started cutting after that and took over from that point on.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/14/2009 9:09:53 PM | message detail
brawl was trailing, yes
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/14/2009 9:10:56 PM | message detail
augh

this is just an impermanent setback that I will somehow explain shortly
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/14/2009 9:12:15 PM | message detail
Hmm....Brawl leading with the board vote. Come on MGS4!

Oh, and CT beat FFVII soundly with the ASV and second night vote. We've come a long way since Magus choked against Sandbag 3 months ago!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/14/2009 9:14:28 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #394
Hmm....Brawl leading with the board vote. Come on MGS4!

Oh, and CT beat FFVII soundly with the ASV and second night vote. We've come a long way since Magus choked against Sandbag 3 months ago!


zack wasnt exactly a day beast himself though
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/14/2009 9:17:52 PM | message detail
Hey! CT looks so much better when I say "FFVII" instead of "Crisis Core!" Just you wait- once CTDS comes out in Europe, CT will boost enough to beat the real FFVII in the finals by coming back with the ASV!
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/14/2009 9:19:16 PM | message detail
First FF7, next...Gears 2.
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FastFalcon05 absolutely decimated me in the Guru challenge. How bad was it?
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 1/14/2009 9:21:46 PM | message detail
Anyone else think that DK could likely blow a match to Magus (or Kefka, for that matter)? Also, how in the world does a Nintendo icon fail to double Bub, of all characters?
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redrocket | Posted 1/14/2009 9:25:46 PM | message detail
Anyone else think that DK could likely blow a match to Magus

Um, Magus would beat DK easily. It wouldn't be close He hasn't fallen that far yet <_<

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red sox 777 | Posted 1/14/2009 9:26:13 PM | message detail
Of course DK could lose to Magus. Magus, for all his failures, is still a midcarder. It's just that our expectations for him were so incredibly high, and he even backed it up with one great year in 2003.
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