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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 650

red sox 777 | Posted 1/13/2009 9:40:15 PM | message detail
MGS4 is pulling away from Brawl now, and it's still the Power Hour. It should be up by 1000 or more by morning, considering how good SSB's early vote is and how utterly horrid its night vote is. Don't think Brawl is going to make much noise until the ASV- its morning vote is nothing special and its DSV is downright bad. Then come afternoon we shall see......I *think* MGS4 has this one.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/13/2009 9:43:01 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #301
MGS4 is pulling away from Brawl now, and it's still the Power Hour. It should be up by 1000 or more by morning, considering how good SSB's early vote is and how utterly horrid its night vote is. Don't think Brawl is going to make much noise until the ASV- its morning vote is nothing special and its DSV is downright bad. Then come afternoon we shall see......I *think* MGS4 has this one.


Yeah I'm feeling good about MGS4 here. If it can do this in the power hour I don't think Brawl can come back during the day. Especially plus theres less votals combined in these kinds of matches and more options to pick. Plus, I'd imagine Fallout 3 should prolly do well during the day too so theres another game it has to fight for votes from
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transience | Posted 1/13/2009 9:43:54 PM | message detail
MGS4 should have this.

I still like Brawl in the real final though. PS3 fans have shown to be pretty loyal, but they're not all that numerous. I think Brawl squeaks out a win in the final.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 1/13/2009 9:49:25 PM | message detail
And now Mega Man 9 decides it wants a piece of the action.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/14/2009 1:49:43 AM | message detail
And there's the 1000+ margin now time for a catnap before I bask in some more of (hopefully) the best match ever

(...c'mon MGS4 don't fall apart like, uh... MGS in the day)

By which I mean bring on the final GotY <_<
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/14/2009 3:13:13 AM | message detail
Woo Persona 4!

MGS4 winning I am not surprised to see. Fallout 3 almost beating Brawl...wow.

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/14/2009 4:45:47 AM | message detail
lol brawl is barely beating FALLOUT.

at least we know how brawl would be in multi polls..
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/14/2009 7:33:25 AM | message detail
Smash has the third best ASV behind KH and Halo (comparing Frog/Axel and Magus/Sandbag, maybe it's right up there with them), but MGS4 would need a day vote as bad as that of Magus to lose this.

Also, I have a bold prediction: CT outright beats Crisis Core at the ASV to win their match (CT is leading by less than 50 votes right now....looks like CC really caught up in the late night).
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/14/2009 7:34:20 AM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #308
Smash has the third best ASV behind KH and Halo (comparing Frog/Axel and Magus/Sandbag, maybe it's right up there with them), but MGS4 would need a day vote as bad as that of Magus to lose this.

Also, I have a bold prediction: CT outright beats Crisis Core at the ASV to win their match (CT is leading by less than 50 votes right now....looks like CC really caught up in the late night).


its over for smash bros... it'll be lucky to be closer to mgs then fallout at this point
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/14/2009 7:39:28 AM | message detail
Currently MGS4 is beating Brawl by 1489 votes, and Brawl is 300 votes over Fallout 3
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 1/14/2009 9:11:43 AM | message detail
Again, why did Riku barely do anything to Leon with the ASV? From what I've gathered, Resident Evil is terrible with the day vote, while Kingdom Hearts is a day vote king. The fact that Riku barely hurt Leon with the ASV doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Also, was Bowser worse in 2007 or 2008?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/14/2009 9:12:59 AM | message detail
I don't know.
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Yesmar | Posted 1/14/2009 9:13:52 AM | message detail
Again, why did Riku barely do anything to Leon with the ASV?

He did:

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Graph3270.png

Also, was Bowser worse in 2007 or 2008?

I would say they were probably about even popularity wise.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 1/14/2009 9:17:33 AM | message detail
But as I remember it, I think Leon barely lost any percentage during the day. That's what I mean by Riku barely hurting Leon with the ASV. (Unless I'm remembering wrong...)
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/14/2009 9:29:51 AM | message detail
well it isnt hard to picture Leon having SOME dayvote support now.
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Ngamer64 | Posted 1/14/2009 9:59:23 AM | message detail
Don't try to remember it, just look at the graph. The bolded line is the actual overall percentage each character had at that point during the day. Yes, Leon's line takes a hit (but not a major one) once the ASV kicks in, while Riku makes some nice gains.

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hailEC | Posted 1/14/2009 10:13:56 AM | message detail
oh hey mgs4 is winning /fake surprise

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red sox 777 | Posted 1/14/2009 12:34:51 PM | message detail
MGS4's lead is currently 1793. I seem to remember it being around 1900 earlier, so it looks like Brawl is making cuts with the ASV. It needs to average 17.58 votes an update for the rest of the match to catch up.
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/14/2009 12:38:22 PM | message detail
From tranny's topic:



It's weird that the results could really be anything tomorrow...and the chance for excitement here isn't necessarily over, either. Sandbag was down 2,150 votes at 4:30 PM yet led by 398 at 9:50 PM (Magus started coming back after that) despite Sonic sharing the poll. Right now, SSBB is down 1,813 votes at 3:20 PM. "Too many options" is a concern, but Sandbag/Magus had 49.54% of the votes at 4:30 PM and SSBB/MGS4 has 45.66%...difference, yes, but considering the extra hour (of the ASV, at that) and 300+ votes less to overcome with nothing Nintendo-y in the way, that's not a deal-breaker either.


I do think MGS4 has it won today though. That said, it also has a good chance at last place tomorrow. Tomorrow will be a LOT of fun.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/14/2009 12:40:01 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #318
MGS4's lead is currently 1793. I seem to remember it being around 1900 earlier, so it looks like Brawl is making cuts with the ASV. It needs to average 17.58 votes an update for the rest of the match to catch up.


It was never over 1800.
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/14/2009 12:41:28 PM | message detail
...Albion, I just said at 3:20 PM that SSBB was behind by 1,813.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/14/2009 12:42:10 PM | message detail
and? I've been keeping up with it and never saw it over 1800
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/14/2009 12:43:12 PM | message detail
Now SSBB's behind by 1809, with the last update actually being a gain from MGS4. With a lead like this, even random stalls like that are devastating, so count me surprised if SSBB ends up making this interesting.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/14/2009 12:44:01 PM | message detail
I don't get why anyone even "Thinks" its interesting. Its over and was over within first hour. The more interesting battle is for second, not first.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/14/2009 12:45:07 PM | message detail
Yep, SSBB needs to be winning every update to make this comeback. I think MGS4 will win by more tomorrow, but I'm definitely in the minority there.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/14/2009 12:45:50 PM | message detail
SSBB needs 50 vote cuts like every time, and thats not happening in this format with 8 options and lower votals.
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/14/2009 12:47:19 PM | message detail
Likewise, I know what I saw, but this is a silly argument. Be like that.

Yeah, MGS4 should win at this point. Sandbag is an exception. I'm still counting on SSBB to do something with the ASV, but it shouldn't be enough to win.
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TRE Public Account | Posted 1/14/2009 12:47:50 PM | message detail
SSBB cut around 63 votes off of MGS4 and increased it's lead over Fallout 3 by 102 votes over the last 45 minutes. MGS4 should take first with room to spare.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/14/2009 12:49:11 PM | message detail
No, it doesn't. It needs to average under 20 votes an update. Even assuming that Brawl has to be in the lead by 8 PM, when the ASV really cools down, or else it won't finish the comeback or MGS4 will come back in the last hour, the quota is still only 35.25.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/14/2009 12:49:47 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #329
No, it doesn't. It needs to average under 20 votes an update. Even assuming that Brawl has to be in the lead by 8 PM, when the ASV really cools down, or else it won't finish the comeback or MGS4 will come back in the last hour, the quota is still only 35.25.


well i was just estimating.. either way, its not happening
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/14/2009 12:50:55 PM | message detail
*looks at TRE's post*

Shove it Alby.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/14/2009 12:52:06 PM | message detail
MGS4 should be safe, but I'm just worried because of Magus/Sandbag.....I thought Magus had that one too! Die Brawl die!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/14/2009 12:53:08 PM | message detail
Let us pray that MGS4 is not as big of a choke artist as Magus then!
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 1/14/2009 12:54:34 PM | message detail
LOL @ Persona 4 beating MM9 and getting a little close to Crisis Core and Lich King
just sayin
yay for MGS4 and Brawl's performances
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/14/2009 12:56:03 PM | message detail
True, Magus choked hard. Crono, Frog, and CT's port have all done relatively well in the past your with the ASV in comparison to what we would usually expect from them years ago though, so Magus is...just that much weirder.
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/14/2009 12:57:19 PM | message detail
Oh yeah, and Chrono Trigger's lead on Crisis Core is now over 150. There's still a few more hours in this ASV, but so far my prediction appears to be right- CT is outright winning the ASV against FFVII!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/14/2009 12:59:10 PM | message detail
Looks like MGS/FF7 SFF has finally worked against the lesser of the two entities imo
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 1/14/2009 1:05:01 PM | message detail
Could Leon have actually gotten a day vote? And if so, how? And I'm sure Donkey Kong, in addition to being Nintendo's biggest choker, is probably the biggest choke artist of the GameFAQs Character Battles. Although I wonder...Could he possibly blow a match to Magus? And WTF at BUB almost breaking 40% on DK. You'd think a Nintendo icon would be able to blow Bub the hell out...
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/14/2009 1:06:33 PM | message detail
And I, too, have confidence in removing options from this poll for MGS4 (surprise surprise). I mean... look at the games that are in this poll. Aside from CT, I would think every single one has a fanbase more similar to MGS's than to Brawl's. The only real limiting factor on MGS4 is how large its fanbase actually is, because there's no question that the game is more beloved by its fanbase.

If there's anything I'd be worried about, it'd be Fallout 3. Multiplatform games tend to have a lot of overlap, and there's lots of genre similarity as well (it's not just an RPG, it's an FPS!).
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/14/2009 1:11:52 PM | message detail
FO3 could make a scene tomorrow, yeah. There can be a game for any game coming in any position tomorrow, and that's pretty awesome for a GotY-poll.

Come on, SSBB...I just want to see how you size up to SMG and LoZ:TP in the GotC-poll (where SSBB suddenly feels closer to SMG than LoZ:TP right now, though I want to see tomorrow first).
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/14/2009 1:12:19 PM | message detail
*a case for any game
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/14/2009 1:14:19 PM | message detail
Multiplatform games tend to have a lot of overlap, and there's lots of genre similarity as well (it's not just an RPG, it's an FPS!).

Fallout 3 is a fps? News to me.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 1/14/2009 1:15:34 PM | message detail
Where do you stand on what I said in my last post?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/14/2009 1:15:37 PM | message detail
augh quota met for one update panic time
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/14/2009 1:17:27 PM | message detail
ack two updates

three is a trend jinx no jinx jinx jinx no jinx
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Mumei | Posted 1/14/2009 2:07:09 PM | message detail
... Karma, take your meds.

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HaRRicH | Posted 1/14/2009 2:14:04 PM | message detail
He doesn't need meds, he has rations and nanomachines.
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Mumei | Posted 1/14/2009 2:28:56 PM | message detail
He doesn't need meds, he has rations and nanomachines.

... Karma, you never told me this.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/14/2009 2:45:14 PM | message detail
"You never asked."
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/14/2009 4:28:07 PM | message detail
Well, SSBB is now closer to MGS4 than FO3 again, and it will probably only look better for SSBB from here onward today. Looking good for SSBB tomorrow in that regard.


I'm going to make a BOLD prediction and say MGS4 gets last place tomorrow. MGS4 is already getting ~65% of the PS3-support, and it will have to fight FO3 for whatever's left of the ~35% (that FO3 hasn't already taken today, to boot, not to mention any little bit SSBB steals). That should allow SSBB enough room to get another 1,500+ votes on MGS4 pretty easily due to the Wii-ownership and high play-rate. FO3 getting second (or even first) place would be the big upset then, which already becomes pretty feasible once you remove WoW:WotLK and Gears 2; I would think FO3 gets the lion's share of the votes left behind from the PC/360 GotYs. Removing other RPGs like CT and CC:FF7 can't hurt its cause either.

Pretty much, the PS3 saves and kills MGS4's chances of GotY; it has been very much behind MGS4, but it is difficult to get votes outside of it. For MGS4 to get 30%, MGS4 needs ~82% of the PS3-support here. ~65% is great, but that's one thing...82% is another. Furthermore, getting 30% means it CANNOT get first place and is not guaranteed second place; it will take at least 33.34% to have a shot for first. I have a lot more faith in FO3 increasing its numbers to 30+% than MGS4

SSBB > FO3 > MGS4
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