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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 650

Karma Hunter | Posted 1/13/2009 8:36:24 AM | message detail
speaking of which, anyone think the PS3 could possibly top the Wii tomorrow?

Depends. Does the GameFAQs PS3 ownership rate double in the next 24 hours?


awwwwwwww yeah
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/13/2009 8:39:14 AM | message detail
YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW NINTENDO
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H__RR____H | Posted 1/13/2009 8:49:02 AM | message detail
Perhaps it is more independent, but right now we've not really had much reason to doubt the loyalty behind the PS3-gamers and a solid ~23% could win the first poll for MGS4. We've seen several times that PS3-support has compared quite nicely to its ownership-rates, with today's poll being a nice testament of it. That doesn't mean I think MGS4 > SSBB in general, but I do think we could see it in the overall-GotY when there are a lot more options.

It's not so much of an issue with Wii-independence -- I do think it'll stand out. It's getting the PS3-support to not flock to their biggest game. I think some pressure is on FO3 to break up that support; if it does, SSBB could run away with it. If not, MGS4's going to look great.
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BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now.
www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285
hailEC | Posted 1/13/2009 8:50:37 AM | message detail
so who wants to hop on my Melee > Brawl bandwagon?

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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/13/2009 8:50:51 AM | message detail
Media Create Sales For This Week:
PS3: 20M

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/13/2009 8:51:32 AM | message detail
Shenmue > Brawl
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/13/2009 8:53:18 AM | message detail
Man don't even joke about Shenmue *sigh* they will never make another one will they
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/13/2009 8:55:02 AM | message detail
Shenmue more like NeverGonnaFinishTheStorylineWithAFinalSequelmue

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transience | Posted 1/13/2009 8:58:42 AM | message detail
PS3 folks are indeed pretty independent. Wii folks are actually the least independent because most people have a Wii + PS3/360 -- they probably share the most with the other consoles. just check the polls:

- 37% own a PS3, 25% voted it system of the year -- 68% of PS3 owners voted for it for system of the year

- 56% own a 360, 37% voted it system of the year -- 66% of 360 owners voted for it for system of the year

- 62% own a Wii, 16% voted it system of the year -- 26% of Wii owners voted for it for system of the year

ouch.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/13/2009 9:00:17 AM | message detail
So the Wii is Sonic?

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/13/2009 9:02:32 AM | message detail
Nintendo better go savage at E3. They're teetering on joke status here.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/13/2009 9:03:36 AM | message detail
Why would Nintendo care how they're doing on a GameFAQs poll? The Wii just had a few weeks where it sold close to or over a million units each time.

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transience | Posted 1/13/2009 9:04:31 AM | message detail
in a couple of days we're going to see Wii numbers around 3 million units, and the DS won't be far behind. I think they're happy. :)
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/13/2009 9:07:13 AM | message detail
They're happy, but we're not. I've bought one Wii game in the last 14 months. While making fun of the returned king is enjoyable, I'd rather they just release some great games.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/13/2009 9:13:45 AM | message detail
The Wii has transformed Nintendo into everything they vowed not to become and they will have to live with the shame of that FOREVER

wii can only hope their golden coffins filled with hundred thousand dollar bills will be enough to comfort them
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/13/2009 9:15:24 AM | message detail
hail
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Yesmar | Posted 1/13/2009 9:16:10 AM | message detail
In order to win the final GOTY poll, MGS4 will have to break 33%, meaning that it would have to get close to 90-100% of its owners voting for a game, when its ownership rates probably aren't even that high. That's a huge hurdle to overcome.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/13/2009 9:18:35 AM | message detail
well it's metal gear solid..
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Yesmar | Posted 1/13/2009 9:20:44 AM | message detail
well it's metal gear solid..

Super Smash Brothers has the most monolithic devoted series fanbase we have ever seen on GameFAQS. There's no way MGS wins the series war over Smash Bros.
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transience | Posted 1/13/2009 9:22:41 AM | message detail
..huh? it's a party fighting game that's comprised of every Nintendo series ever

you can't even begin to say that.
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hailEC | Posted 1/13/2009 9:23:10 AM | message detail
Except it's on the Wii.

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hailEC | Posted 1/13/2009 9:23:27 AM | message detail
and sucks
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/13/2009 9:26:04 AM | message detail
No? You only have to believe Final Fantasy's picture caused it to underperform by 15% against Super Marios Bros.......*runs*
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H__RR____H | Posted 1/13/2009 9:26:08 AM | message detail
33%? Maybe not; based off of early numbers charmander made from the original-GotY, here is what we might see:

SSBB - 25.65%
MGS4 - 24.27%
Gears 2 - 16.62%
CT - 11.23%
WoW:WotLK - 8.36%
CC:FF7 - 7.11%
MM9 - 6.75%

That is without FO3, without P4, and without considering that CT has struggled with LFF in the DS/port-GotYs. I don't want to take these numbers too seriously, but I do think a case can be made that any game hitting 30% in the overall-GotY would be incredible.
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BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now.
www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285
H__RR____H | Posted 1/13/2009 9:26:49 AM | message detail
Oh...my bad Yesmar, you're talking about the final-GotY.

Whoops.
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BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now.
www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285
MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/13/2009 9:27:40 AM | message detail
when i said that, i meant that it's not like it's impossible for MGS to get 90% of PS3 votes; not beating Brawl entirely.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/13/2009 9:31:20 AM | message detail
33% is the number for the final GotY - ie, the number that is *necessary* to win. I agree that 33% is a tall order in the initial GotY poll, and infinitely more so if you're talking about MGS4.

That being said, using LittleBigPlanet AND Valkyria Chronicles puts MGS4 solidly above SSBB going through No More Heroes. NMH overperformance in the initial Wii poll or not, I wouldn't count on some of the numbers (60%+ on MGS4?) that some had been throwing out for Brawl.
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H__RR____H | Posted 1/13/2009 9:33:37 AM | message detail
I think MGS4 was able to get ~5/7 of the PS3-support in June when it wasn't a month old against SSBB and GTA4. Now that the hype's moved on, FO3 embarrassed GTA4, and MGS4 didn't even get a near-unanimous amount of the votes in the PS3-poll (though LBP [and even VC] did well enough in their own rights in the original-GotY)...MGS4 won't get 90% of the PS3-support or close to it. Still, there will be some scary support...90% is HUGE though. I'm not sure if LoZ:TP did that in 2006...!
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BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now.
www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285
H__RR____H | Posted 1/13/2009 9:35:37 AM | message detail
Just for kicks, how do MGS4 and SSBB compare through Ninja Gaiden Sigma and Okami in the remake-GotY?
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www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285
Karma Hunter | Posted 1/13/2009 9:41:24 AM | message detail
I think MGS4 holds SSBB under like 35% using that comparison... which would probably be a lot more impressive if we hadn't already seen what Snake does to Ryu Hayabusa. =/
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/13/2009 9:44:14 AM | message detail
suck more wii
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/13/2009 9:48:51 AM | message detail
MGS4 holds SSBB under 35%? That would be amazing. I'll be satisfied as long as it breaks 40% on Brawl- that's enough for me to dismiss Brawl's chances of challenging the CT/LTTP/Melee/SMB3 tier.
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H__RR____H | Posted 1/13/2009 10:00:14 AM | message detail
Haha, wow...well that's another stat in favor of MGS4, I guess.
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BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now.
www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285
Ngamer64 | Posted 1/13/2009 10:42:12 AM | message detail
Let's take a look at how the site has shifted over the years, shall we? No? Well too bad!

Here are the results by company for each System of the Year poll dating back to the one CJay ran in Jan of '02, 5 months before the first Contest.

2001 System of the Year
Sony - 56.09% (PS2)
Nintendo - 24.16% (GC + GBA)
Sega - 9.37% (DC)
Microsoft - 6.48% (Xbox)
PC - 3.90%

2002 System of the Year
Sony - 46.61% (PD2)
Nintendo - 34.92% (GC + GBA)
Microsoft - 12.86% (Xbox)
PC - 5.61%

2003 System of the Year
Sony - 41.42% (PS2)
Nintendo - 33.09% (GC + GBA)
Microsoft - 16.14% (Xbox)
PC - 6.96%
Nokia - 2.38% (N-Gage; what a kidder CJay was!)

2004 System of the Year
Sony - 36.69% (PS2)
Nintendo - 31.97% (GC + GBA + DS)
Microsoft - 20.79% (Xbox)
PC - 9.47%
Nokia - 1.08%

2005 System of the Year
Sony - 41.03% (PS2 + PSP)
Nintendo - 32.70% (GC + DS)
Microsoft - 18.04% (Xbox + 360)
PC - 8.23%

2006 System of the Year
Nintendo - 49.60% (Wii + DS)
Sony - 23.66% (PS2 + PS3 + PSP)
Microsoft - 22.55% (360)
PC - 4.19%

2007 System of the Year
Nintendo - 40.56% (Wii + DS)
Microsoft - 33.37% (360)
Sony - 20.93% (PS2 + PS3 + PSP)
PC - 5.14%

2008 System of the Year
Microsoft - 37.12% (360)
Sony - 30.94% (PS2 + PS3 + PSP)
Nintendo - 24.14% (Wii + DS)
PC - 7.80%

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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/13/2009 10:44:40 AM | message detail
Jeez, Sony fell 20% from one year to the next. That's worse than what Ninty is doing here.

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FFDragon | Posted 1/13/2009 11:02:52 AM | message detail
Fell 20% by adding a console, at that.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/13/2009 11:12:48 AM | message detail
Nintendo can stop releasing games for the next 12 months and still would not approach the earth-shatteringly hilarious fail of Sony's 2006 E3.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 1/13/2009 11:17:36 AM | message detail
lol failtendo
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/13/2009 11:17:38 AM | message detail
599 US dollars
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Yesmar | Posted 1/13/2009 12:28:56 PM | message detail
That being said, using LittleBigPlanet AND Valkyria Chronicles puts MGS4 solidly above SSBB going through No More Heroes

No it doesn't. Why do you keep saying that? Both comparisons place Brawl higher.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/13/2009 1:30:06 PM | message detail
Hmm, you're right; either I made a mistake with my arithmetic or Ninty had a better ASV than I thought when I first made that comparison. Still, using LBP and VC, MGS4 still does much better than most (especially you) gave it credit for, getting ~46% and ~48% on Brawl respectively, and the Sigma comparison still stands... even though who knows what it means considering Ryu commits seppuku every time he takes sight of Snake.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 1/13/2009 1:34:45 PM | message detail
...But is it just Snake Ryu Hayabusa folds to? Or does he roll over and die against certain other characters? Also, who's the biggest Square choker, Kefka or Magus?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/13/2009 1:38:19 PM | message detail
Ryu folded against Dante as well, though most who know both characters expected that to happen. Those two and Kratos are pretty much in the same boat as far as action gaming popularity goes. Snake is the oddity because he barely even shares a system with Hayabusa, let alone a genre - and yet it's apparently one of the most severe cases of SFF we've seen in the four-way format. Uhhhhh

And please don't make me choose between Magus and Kefka... well, at least Magus succeeded in ONE year, so there's that.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 1/13/2009 1:44:38 PM | message detail
How about Ryu Haybusa and Riku? I doubt that Riku could take him one-on-one, especially considering that he and Roxas COMBINED lost to Ryu, and for whatever reason, he barely dented Leon with the ASV this past contest.. Does Leon even have a good day vote?
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WarThaHedgehog | Posted 1/13/2009 1:44:59 PM | message detail
Kefka fails much harder than Magus. Kefka lost to a guy who was soundly beaten by Rydia. So, Magus lost to a bag of sand last year, but considering what Big Boss did, Magus doesn't look too god-awful in 2007. Kefka got last place as the only Square in a match with Duke Nukem. Any time Magus has sucked, Kefka has managed to suck that much more.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/13/2009 1:51:06 PM | message detail
How about Ryu Haybusa and Riku?

Snake was in that match, so that wasn't exactly Hayabusa's fault. Even if Roxas hadn't been there in the match before the ninja would've creamed Riku (sweet if belated justice for those who had been preaching that all along!).
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 1/13/2009 2:03:04 PM | message detail
Granted, Kefka lost to Marcus Fenix, who in turn lost to Rydia, but something about Rydia's performance JDLR... Rydia's performance in that match was more TJF than anything else, if you ask me.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 1/13/2009 2:06:16 PM | message detail
i'm surprised nobody mentioned Tidus.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/13/2009 2:09:00 PM | message detail
Even though he lost to a Cube this year, Tidus surprised many of us by beating DK - and shocked most with the utter ease with which he won. That plus improving on his last percentage against Mega Man, weakened or not, means he gets a reprieve on that end.

Note how no one is suggesting that any of these characters are on the level of DK's failitude. I'm almost convinced he'd be able to blow a match against Kefka at this point... somehow.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 1/13/2009 2:12:58 PM | message detail
Even though he lost to a Cube this year, Tidus surprised many of us by beating DK - and shocked most with the utter ease with which he won. That plus improving on his last percentage against Mega Man, weakened or not, means he gets a reprieve on that end.

This. Also, Tidus gave Cube the fight of its life in round 1.
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