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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 649

TestIcicles | Posted 1/4/2009 12:23:04 PM | message detail
Exactly... (and I hope that was serious!)

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TestIcicles | Posted 1/4/2009 12:23:45 PM | message detail
WoW won't be a top entry, but people here act like it can't win a damn match.

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transience | Posted 1/4/2009 12:26:13 PM | message detail
I'd respond to that but I'm on a Warcraft sabbatical until we get a bracket
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/4/2009 1:11:48 PM | message detail
Oh, WoW can definitely win a match. It did barely beat GoW2 last year, for example, not to mention that it handed Spore its ass recently and will likely end up beating CT and CC:FF7 with room to spare. That said, it's going to have a hard time beating Gears 2 and will still be easily blown out by SSBB, MGS4, and GTA4 in probably a nine-way poll (I'm predicting a downloadable-GotY this year...if not, it's still an eight-way). If WoW doesn't stand out against Gears 2 in the kind of format that benefits it the most, then don't expect it to particularly hold up so well in a four-way or especially one-on-one.

I know rallying needs to be considered for a BGE-match, but this year's GotY-poll better prove to me it's got as solid of a base as ever because I'm not sold on it getting some guaranteed percentage every match.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/4/2009 1:13:12 PM | message detail
With GTA4 and GoW2 both in the match should LFF eachother and have WoW easily beat them both and end up in third place behind Brawl and MGS4
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/4/2009 1:28:34 PM | message detail
...not buying that. Otherwise, WoW would have beat CoD4 and/or Halo 3 last year. Instead, it was doubled by an LFF'd Halo 3 in a nine-way poll.

Besides, I doubt GTA4 and Gears 2 LFF all that much.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/4/2009 1:29:32 PM | message detail
Besides, I doubt GTA4 and Gears 2 LFF all that much.

2 biggest casual gamers games on 360. no reason they wouldnt lff
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/4/2009 1:31:35 PM | message detail
WoW might do well in the GotY poll, but either way it's going to be hurt badly come time for a 1 on 1 match.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/4/2009 1:33:04 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #208
WoW might do well in the GotY poll, but either way it's going to be hurt badly come time for a 1 on 1 match.


It'll be like a high mid carder I think in 1v1 format. Won't beat any top games though but can beat games like Kingdom Hearts or Symphony of the Night I'm sure though
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/4/2009 1:38:21 PM | message detail
Not much worse than any other games that share a system though. GTA4 will already be hurt by MGS4's killer favoritism and not get to see its PS3-fans in full effect, but its 360-fans still let GTA4 be close to MGS4 and Gears 2 isn't approaching MGS4 in strength. GTA4 should be able to fend it off well enough with just 360-fans -- no need to act like GTA4 is on the level of Oblivion when it trailed close behind Gears 1 in 2006.

All GTA4 has to do is get to the overall-GotY poll and it's going to do fine...but apparently there's a Fallout 3 in the way. I'll have to see it here to believe it here, but it's possible.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/4/2009 1:39:33 PM | message detail
Uh, SotN maybe because it keeps aging so poorly. But Kingdom Hearts? Please.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/4/2009 1:43:02 PM | message detail
If Starcraft could do 60-40 on KH, then WoW beating KH isn't out of the picture
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/4/2009 1:44:00 PM | message detail
oh wait it was 53-47, thought it was bigger for some reason

still a toss up though
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/4/2009 1:49:37 PM | message detail
Kingdom Hearts is like Smash - it's only gotten stronger and stronger over the years. Even if WoW was at the top end of my spectrum (and that's pretty high), I wouldn't dare take it over KH.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/4/2009 1:51:20 PM | message detail
eh maybe

i just remember KH bombing last time so I don't think tis anythign special
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/4/2009 1:53:04 PM | message detail
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Kingdom_Hearts_vs_Soul_Calibur_2004

like i'd put wow over soul calibur, and Kh just BARELY beat it
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/4/2009 1:54:17 PM | message detail
I think KH helps me decide where I would put WoW at now:

I imagine KH has picked up and Starcraft has dropped since 2004...and I would take Starcraft in a very close match assuming there was no rallying (since there wasn't in 2004). I would take WoW to barely beat KH with a "standard" rally -- nothing exceptional by its fans, but they had to obviously put in the word to spread the word and encourage people.


I don't really know numerically speaking how many votes I think WoW would rally in such a match, but I think that's the difference between WoW and Starcraft. I think WoW can rally more than the "standard," but it's going to take a lot of luck and reason outside of "WoW is losing right now." Starcraft had everything when it was rallied, and WoW will need the same to get that kind of success.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/4/2009 1:57:40 PM | message detail
And based on the Series Contest, KH is projected to nearly double SC. Talking up KH/SC is like talking up Pokemon GSC/Xenogears. SC and XG would be lucky to break 40% today.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/4/2009 1:59:34 PM | message detail
The series contest would also be the height of KH popularity cuz KH2 was brand new. It won't be as strong as it was then.
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transience | Posted 1/4/2009 2:00:22 PM | message detail
woo slanted logic
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Yesmar | Posted 1/4/2009 2:39:32 PM | message detail
Am I the only who still finds something suspicious about that Starcraft/Kingdom Hearts match? KH gets NO afterschool vote at all. And it actually did something with the morning vote, but then nothing else for the rest of the match. I find that very very suspicious.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/4/2009 2:42:00 PM | message detail

From: Yesmar | #221
Am I the only who still finds something suspicious about that Starcraft/Kingdom Hearts match? KH gets NO afterschool vote at all. And it actually did something with the morning vote, but then nothing else for the rest of the match. I find that very very suspicious.


obviously starcraft is just more of an asv beast then KH
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Karma Hunter | Posted 1/4/2009 2:43:12 PM | message detail
Everything is screwy with StarCraft in SpC2k4. Best not to try and analyze it too much, other than to righteously note a disparity between its natural strength and bandwagoned power.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/4/2009 2:44:09 PM | message detail
but yeah when it comes to total bandwagon/rallied game/characters, trends are mute

its just whenever the rallies go
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/4/2009 2:46:49 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/images/poll_graph.php?matchnum=3271&type=2&seconds=60&max=0

Like from these "trends" it makes it look like hogger is a during school monster

but thats just when i woke up and started to rally hard
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/4/2009 4:05:01 PM | message detail
It's possible KH wasn't a day vote monster in 2004- it won the ASV to beat Soul Calibur, but didn't demolish it like KH would now. Sora went even with Samus during the day also.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/4/2009 9:01:22 PM | message detail
crisis core doing better then i expected
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red sox 777 | Posted 1/4/2009 9:02:02 PM | message detail
Come on Crisis Core, beat MGS4's percentage!
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Lopen | Posted 1/4/2009 9:02:11 PM | message detail
It took over 150 votes for Downstream Panic to get a single vote. Pretty cool.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/4/2009 9:02:48 PM | message detail

From: Lopen | #229
It took over 150 votes for Downstream Panic to get a single vote. Pretty cool.


i've never even heard of it o.O
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 1/4/2009 9:03:28 PM | message detail
Downstream Panic for the Games Contest
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 1/4/2009 9:04:13 PM | message detail
Hot Shots did the same thing yesterday.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/4/2009 9:04:18 PM | message detail
Downstream Panic vs. Wipeout Pulse

gogogo

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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 1/4/2009 9:06:23 PM | message detail
Bold Prediction: Downstream Panic! leads Wipeout Pulse and DM3 after the next update
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Lopen | Posted 1/4/2009 9:07:07 PM | message detail
Keep an eye on this, we may have a wire to wire to wire match here

Downstream Panic! 1.58% 11
Dungeon Maker II: The Hidden War 1.73% 12
Wipeout Pulse 1.87% 13

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Justin_Crossing | Posted 1/4/2009 9:07:23 PM | message detail
I agree with War tbqh
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Lopen | Posted 1/4/2009 9:07:43 PM | message detail
Oh and my predix:

Dungeon thing > Downstream Panic! > Wipeout
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/4/2009 9:08:33 PM | message detail
Dungeon>Wipeout>Downstream

So, CC vs. P4 gogogo

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Justin_Crossing | Posted 1/4/2009 9:08:54 PM | message detail
Downstream > WipEout > Dungeon

imo
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 1/4/2009 9:09:19 PM | message detail

From: WarThaNemesis2 | #234
Bold Prediction: Downstream Panic! leads Wipeout Pulse and DM3 after the next update


you stuffing for it? >_>
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transience | Posted 1/4/2009 9:09:51 PM | message detail
CC is more popular, but P4's got more people willing to vote it over everything else.

both should pull 5-6%, probably.
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AmazingKirby | Posted 1/4/2009 9:10:34 PM | message detail
Looks like Star Ocean is a contest force to be reckoned with!
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transience | Posted 1/4/2009 9:10:37 PM | message detail
aww yeah FF7 board vote
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ZFS | Posted 1/4/2009 9:20:52 PM | message detail
woo Crisis Core

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xp1337 | Posted 1/4/2009 9:24:22 PM | message detail
This poll is awesome.

1.92% isn't last place. It isn't even second-to-last place. That's incredible.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 1/4/2009 9:50:14 PM | message detail
Hm, with FFVII's and GoW's day votes, I wonder if Yggdra Union can drop another percent or so, giving us the bottom four options under 2%? This and the PS3 poll have had some real dregs down in the bottom.
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/4/2009 10:29:43 PM | message detail
CC:FF7 is kickin' ass today.

CT or CC:FF7 -- which do you think will do better in the overall-GotY?
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ZFS | Posted 1/4/2009 10:31:17 PM | message detail
Both should be pretty close. Think I'd go with CT over CC, but it being a port may hurt it more against real competition.

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Ngamer64 | Posted 1/5/2009 12:29:47 AM | message detail
Update!


* Chrono Trigger - 27.70% on DS poll, 20127 votes (of 72651 total)
* WoW: WotLK - 36.83% on PC poll, 22383 votes (of 60780 total)
* Persona 4 - 44.53% on PS2 poll, 21612 votes (of 48534 total)
* MGS4 - 53.56% on PS3 poll, 39796 votes (of 74297 total)
* Crisis Core - 50.48% on PSP poll (currently), ? votes (of ? total)

Impressive result for MGS4 in pretty much every aspect. Blows away the old mark for largest percentage, nearly doubles the next closest vote total, and (pretty much) singlehandedly carries that poll to better popularity than one that featured CT, Kirby, an FF title, and TWEWY. Not bad at all!

Brawl has its work cut out for it if it wants to top this performance.

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charmander6000 | Posted 1/5/2009 7:56:31 AM | message detail
Brawl probably won't beat MGS4 percent or votes because the Wii will have more competition.
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