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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 647

Ngamer64 | Posted 12/9/2008 9:34:24 PM | message detail
Oh gracious... I think this choice of poll confirms that SB is an avid stats topic lurker and wanted to torture us with 24 Hours of Albion.

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red sox 777 | Posted 12/9/2008 9:34:42 PM | message detail
Either way, I look forward to something like Duck Hunt beating World of Warcraft!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/9/2008 9:36:21 PM | message detail

From: Ngamer64 | #201
Oh gracious... I think this choice of poll confirms that SB is an avid stats topic lurker and wanted to torture us with 24 Hours of Albion.



Eh, maybe if it was over 50% playership. I don't really have anything to gloat about.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/9/2008 9:37:25 PM | message detail
However, it's possible that the "Never played" option could drop below 65.98% before the end of this poll.

Turns out the "Never played" option got exactly 65.98% at the 0:25 update (about 10 minutes ago)
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/9/2008 10:26:51 PM | message detail
So what's everyone's rankings for Starcraft, Diablo II and World of Warcraft?
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Lopen | Posted 12/9/2008 10:46:02 PM | message detail
D2 >= Starcraft >>>>>>>> WoW.

WoW will be first round fodder I guarantee it. You'll be hard pressed to find a game I won't take over it in R1.
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Gaddswell | Posted 12/10/2008 12:03:58 AM | message detail
Ha, what an interesting poll we have today!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/10/2008 4:29:50 AM | message detail
Hey guys, there's no proof that WoW is unpopular on GameFAQs!
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/10/2008 5:55:38 AM | message detail
WoW against non Squintendo > Starcraft > D2 > WoW against Squintendo

WoW's power comes from its rallying ability. Feed it something that isn't universally loved and it will do great. Feed it to Mario 3 and it will get anihilated. Though it will probably end up as a high seed, so it can get a couple of rounds of ass kicking in before it gets creamed. I would love to see WoW/GTA4.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 12/10/2008 6:05:04 AM | message detail
WoW against non Squintendo > Starcraft > D2 > WoW against Squintendo

WoW's power comes from its rallying ability.


lol BT
You sure are delusional, aren't you? Such impudence from one who thought it could beat Twilight Princess! 65% of the site won't be voting WoW. No matter what. And nobody gives a damn about how much rallying power you have if you can't even get close enough to the point where it makes a difference. Look at Pika/Alucard/Arthas/Falcon, or better yet, Samus/Ganon/Frog/Nightmare. Supposing that we get 150000 votes, 65-35 is 45000 votes. WoW would need to draw a game that people are apathetic about or dislike if it wants to do much of anything. And considering that WoW is reviled on GameFAQs, why are you so high on it anyway?
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 12/10/2008 7:08:13 AM | message detail
BT talks about it WoW being at its weakest against universally loved games, but TP is universally at least liked more than WoW; and it's a Zelda game nonetheless.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/10/2008 10:06:36 AM | message detail
I don't see why todays poll changes anything. We already knew from past polls it was about 31% playership.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/10/2008 12:26:51 PM | message detail
It doesn't change anything: it just confirms that Gamefaqs does not like WoW.
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MichaelWClark | Posted 12/10/2008 12:34:16 PM | message detail

From: MyWorldIsCrono | #212
I don't see why todays poll changes anything. We already knew from past polls it was about 31% playership.




It doesn't change a thing. This was just SB's gift to all the delusional people that had WoW as a top 10 game...his own little way of giving them one last chance to see how much it is hated here, so they won't take it anywhere in their brackets.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/10/2008 12:37:52 PM | message detail
Once again, what convinces you that Twilight Princess is going to be worth a damn? At least Wind Waker still had some people talking about it 2 years after it came out, TP fell COMPLETELY off the map and will be going on franchise voting alone. Not saying WoW is a lock there, but if any of the Zelda games is going to go down to what should be a weaker game, it will be TP.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 12/10/2008 12:41:19 PM | message detail
Once again, what convinces you that Twilight Princess is going to be worth a damn? At least Wind Waker still had some people talking about it 2 years after it came out, TP fell COMPLETELY off the map and will be going on franchise voting alone. Not saying WoW is a lock there, but if any of the Zelda games is going to go down to what should be a weaker game, it will be TP.

And what convinces YOU that WoW will be worth a damn?
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 12/10/2008 12:43:01 PM | message detail
Oh, and I can say the same for WW and MM.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/10/2008 12:45:33 PM | message detail
Not saying WoW is a lock there, but if any of the Zelda games is going to go down to what should be a weaker game, it will be TP.

Or Wind Waker or Majora's Mask, both of which are likely weaker than Twilight Princess. If you're going to judge a game's strength based on how much "talk" it gets on Internet forums, The World Ends With You starts looking like a mighty fine upset against TP. Twilight Princess is one of the three best selling Zelda games ever, and it's the only one to launch with a system. There aren't many good reasons to assume it'll be weaker than Wind Waker/Majora's Mask, and the only decent reason to argue that it'll fall against seemingly weaker games is because we've never seen it in a contest setting.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 12/10/2008 12:47:21 PM | message detail
Not saying WoW is a lock there, but if any of the Zelda games is going to go down to what should be a weaker game, it will be TP.

Or Wind Waker or Majora's Mask, both of which are likely weaker than Twilight Princess. If you're going to judge a game's strength based on how much "talk" it gets on Internet forums, The World Ends With You starts looking like a mighty fine upset against TP. Twilight Princess is one of the three best selling Zelda games ever, and it's the only one to launch with a system. There aren't many good reasons to assume it'll be weaker than Wind Waker/Majora's Mask, and the only decent reason to argue that it'll fall against seemingly weaker games is because we've never seen it in a contest setting.


This.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 12/10/2008 12:51:35 PM | message detail
Oh, and if the fact that we haven't seen it in a contest setting is a strike against TP, it's also a strike against Majora's Mask.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/10/2008 12:52:56 PM | message detail
There aren't many good reasons to assume it'll be weaker than Wind Waker/Majora's Mask

I think you accidentally added a "M" on the front of "any" there.

Seriously, Twilight Princess isn't going to be weaker than Wind Waker or Majora's Mask. Period. No discussion necessary.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/10/2008 12:56:33 PM | message detail

From: MichaelWClark | #214

From: MyWorldIsCrono | #212
I don't see why todays poll changes anything. We already knew from past polls it was about 31% playership.




It doesn't change a thing. This was just SB's gift to all the delusional people that had WoW as a top 10 game...his own little way of giving them one last chance to see how much it is hated here, so they won't take it anywhere in their brackets.



It doesn't prove anything like this if it is infact a 4way. I still have it going very far if its a 4way due to the loyal fanbase and rallying
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/10/2008 12:56:36 PM | message detail
Well, I wouldn't make such statements with absolute certainty - there's always a chance we're wrong, especially when the games are new to the contest setting (and the fact that it's been five years since the last contest, anyway). However, I wouldn't hesitate to betting a lot on TP being the third strongest Zelda, and I'd bet the house on it being ahead of WW and MM.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/10/2008 12:58:13 PM | message detail
Well, I wouldn't make such statements with absolute certainty - there's always a chance we're wrong,

TP has already proven it's stronger than Wind Waker, and no way Majora's Mask is much, if any, stronger than that.

I don't know why people are so hesitant to give TP some credit. It's going to be very strong. I guess it's the disappointment factor.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/10/2008 1:01:53 PM | message detail
Agreed. I've already decided that I'd take it against Brawl and FFVI, and I may take it over Melee and FFX (coin flips). Like you said, the main reason people are hesitant is because of the "disappointment factor," but that pales in comparison to the fact that so many GameFAQs voters seem to simply dislike WoW. That match is a joke waiting to happen.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 12/10/2008 1:05:47 PM | message detail
Like you said, the main reason people are hesitant is because of the "disappointment factor," but that pales in comparison to the fact that so many GameFAQs voters seem to simply dislike WoW. That match is a joke waiting to happen.

This. Just like Cloud/Midna/Edgeworth/Axel Steel, where BT thought that Axel Steel would be worth a damn, and promptly got his ass humiliated big time.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/10/2008 1:15:00 PM | message detail
Funnily enough, the biggest piece of evidence for a great WoW showing, the inexplicable win against GTA in the Series Contest, is one that I rarely see brought up.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 12/10/2008 1:21:15 PM | message detail
Probably because it was followed by an abject humiliation.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/10/2008 1:27:34 PM | message detail
Yeah, but I have little trouble saying that GTA would have done a better job in Warcraft's place.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/10/2008 1:29:51 PM | message detail
Would it? When's the last time we've seen GTA games in a contest setting?

Okay, yeah, a little better. Warcraft only won in R1 due to heavy rallying, and was thus overrated in that match.

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red sox 777 | Posted 12/10/2008 1:37:46 PM | message detail
I don't buy this idea that World of Warcraft would just fold to something that's universally popular- if anything it's the reverse, and its hardcore, independent, fanbase would make it more static.
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trannyscience | Posted 12/10/2008 1:40:38 PM | message detail
I don't buy saying anything definitive about World of Warcraft, and I don't see how some people feel they can argue about it as if they have absolute certainty on what it's going to do.

time to just let it go until contest time.
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WoWfaqs | Posted 12/10/2008 1:44:05 PM | message detail
the sig says it all
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WoW > FF7
MichaelWClark | Posted 12/10/2008 1:46:20 PM | message detail

From: WoWfaqs | #233
the sig says it all




I want to see FF VII against WoW, just because it would be fun to watch the fanboys ***** after FF VII drubs it like LoZ did to Adventure.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 12/10/2008 1:49:02 PM | message detail
From: WoWfaqs | #233
the sig says it all


Careful what you wish for...FF7 may smash WoW into the ground like Snake did to Tanner. Then I'll laugh my ass off.
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Gaddswell | Posted 12/10/2008 2:31:25 PM | message detail
WoW's gonna have to be the L-Block of the games contest to pull that upset!
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 12/10/2008 3:18:09 PM | message detail
anybody that thinks TP isnt stronger than WW after the century poll is just delusionized, (which turtle usually is, anyway).
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Xuxon | Posted 12/10/2008 3:40:01 PM | message detail
Honestly, I think TP could be top 10 material. I'd be pretty shocked if it weren't top 20 at least.
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MichaelWClark | Posted 12/10/2008 3:46:10 PM | message detail

From: Xuxon | #238
Honestly, I think TP could be top 10 material. I'd be pretty shocked if it weren't top 20 at least.



It's the #3 Zelda game, Last time we did this Zelda had possibly 3 of the top 5( WW. Mario 3, Melee, and a couple others all had an argument for #5), and definitely 2 of the top 4. There is no way TP is that far behind ALttP. I would say it is top 10 with relative ease.
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Xuxon | Posted 12/10/2008 3:57:19 PM | message detail
WW absolutely didn't have an argument for #5, but TP >>> WW anyway.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/10/2008 4:08:04 PM | message detail
Oh gracious... I think this choice of poll confirms that SB is an avid stats topic lurker and wanted to torture us with 24 Hours of Albion.

That would be pretty interesting if it was true. I am actually more interested in looking forward to some game series related polls (best Zelda game, etc) being run before the next contest, so we get an idea of how they might perform in a contest format.

Seriously, Twilight Princess isn't going to be weaker than Wind Waker or Majora's Mask. Period. No discussion necessary.

Agreed. TP is guaranteed to at least be a high midcarder or higher, simply because it will benefit from the Legend of Zelda franchise vote.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/10/2008 4:08:38 PM | message detail
Top 10?

Tier 1

FFVII
OOT

Tier 2

CT
LTTP
SSBM
SMB3

Tier 3?

SSBB
FFVI
FFX
TP
SM64
SMW
MGS
GE007
RBY (yes!)

Ok then, I guess that gives TP a good shot at top 10, yes.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/10/2008 4:12:01 PM | message detail
Oh, and I'd put Zelda 1 in that group too. I'd give any game in that tier at least a shot at beating any other game there.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/10/2008 4:13:10 PM | message detail
Also needs RE4.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/10/2008 4:14:31 PM | message detail
Stick RE4 under TP and above SM64.

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red sox 777 | Posted 12/10/2008 4:14:40 PM | message detail
Yeah, RE4 should be there too, and Starcraft with a bit of momentum (how could I forget Starcraft). This is becoming a very large tier- well that shows how unpredictable this contest is going to be!
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Xuxon | Posted 12/10/2008 4:16:01 PM | message detail
The tiers blend a bit more than that of course. I think Galaxy or RE4 or even FF8 could beat some of the games in your third tier. And an outside shot of TP beating Melee.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/10/2008 4:16:59 PM | message detail
Which game do you think is indirectly stronger, Melee or Brawl?

Which do you take 1 on 1?

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_Hogger_ | Posted 12/10/2008 4:18:57 PM | message detail
I think 1v1 that WoW would likely be able to put up at least 30% regardless of the competiiton (unless it was like Mario or something)
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/10/2008 4:22:25 PM | message detail
I'll take Brawl 1v1, although I think Melee will be a smidgen stronger indirectly.
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