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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 647

ZenOfThunder | Posted 12/9/2008 3:55:12 PM | message detail
You want Melee vs Brawl?

One sec, I'm finishing up a pic for Red/Blue. Who do I put it up against?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/9/2008 3:55:41 PM | message detail
http://archive.gamespy.com/titlefight/matches/0120.shtml

woah CT beat FF7 in round 1 there
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trannyscience | Posted 12/9/2008 3:58:12 PM | message detail
only two halfway interesting things there:

Super Metroid beat Metroid Prime
Diablo 2 beat Starcraft

Gamespy is like the anti-GameFAQs -- PC and shooter heaven.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/9/2008 3:58:52 PM | message detail
Diablo 2 also beats Ocarina of time
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 12/9/2008 4:00:10 PM | message detail
Let me get this straight.

GameFAQs - RPGs
Gamespy - PC/Shooters

Is that right?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/9/2008 4:01:18 PM | message detail

From: Fayt_Esteed | #155
Let me get this straight.

GameFAQs - RPGs
Gamespy - PC/Shooters

Is that right?



Essentially yeah. Leaning, at least though. I like Gamespys taste in gaming more though!
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/9/2008 4:02:48 PM | message detail
I find it interesting that MK64 > MGS with Soul Calibur II in the poll.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 12/9/2008 4:02:53 PM | message detail
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 12/9/2008 4:03:08 PM | message detail
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Threw that one together nice and quick-like.
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Gaddswell | Posted 12/9/2008 4:03:15 PM | message detail
Hehe, Half Life > Mario 3 in the finals!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/9/2008 4:05:42 PM | message detail

From: Gaddswell | #160
Hehe, Half Life > Mario 3 in the finals!



fear the one Free Man
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Gaddswell | Posted 12/9/2008 4:11:45 PM | message detail
I'd love to see Gordon win a Gamespy character battle
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 12/9/2008 4:15:55 PM | message detail
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Gaddswell | Posted 12/9/2008 4:31:38 PM | message detail
Mario, Link, Pika, and others vs Mario, Link, Pika, and Bowser! >_>

Doesn't look like the first games contest had any pictures featuring the same characters on both sides. Closest one to it is Pong / Tetris.

Brawl / Melee should have a fun pic (or a really biased one) if we actually see that match!
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 12/9/2008 4:34:37 PM | message detail
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 12/9/2008 4:50:25 PM | message detail
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/9/2008 5:01:19 PM | message detail

From: ZenOfThunder | #166
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do you like horny bunnies would be an elite 8 at least
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Mr3790 | Posted 12/9/2008 5:09:30 PM | message detail
Nice Pictures so far.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/9/2008 5:16:14 PM | message detail
Kirby Super Star vs. Star Fox 64: Who you got?
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 12/9/2008 5:19:28 PM | message detail
SF64 blows KSS away.
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redrocket | Posted 12/9/2008 5:21:54 PM | message detail
We're not talking an Ulti-style blowout either.

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Ngamer64 | Posted 12/9/2008 6:15:15 PM | message detail
Because tranny appeared to be intensely interested in the results, I went ahead and calced the GameSpy tourney x-stats for him.

Here you go pal!

GameSpy Title Fight - 2004 X-Stats
1. Half-Life 50.00%
2. Unreal Tournament 47.69%
3. Battlefield 1942 46.22%
4. Counter-Strike 43.20%
5. Mario 3 41.86%
6. Doom 41.85%
7. Diablo 2 39.41%
8. StarCraft 38.77%
9. Halo 38.05%
10. Quake 38.00%
11. Ocarina 36.74%
12. Civ 3 35.24%
13. Deus Ex 34.07%
14. Chrono Trigger 33.52%
15. GTA:VC 33.40%
16. FF7 33.23%
17. MK64 32.91%
18. MGS 31.15%
19. Grim Fandango 29.76%
20. GE 29.75%
21. Sim City 29.08%
22. KotoR 28.93%
23. Fallout 2 28.60%
24. FFT 28.55%
25. Baldur's Gate 2 28.46%
26. Duke 3D 28.40%
27. The Sims 27.23%
28. Tetris 26.75%
29. Street Fighter 2 26.01%
30. Splinter Cell 25.93%
31. Everquest 25.73%
32. TIE Fighter 24.74%
33. Raven Shield 24.19%
34. Super Metroid 24.12%
35. Ultima Online 23.83%
36. WarCraft 3 23.65%
37. Soul Calibur 2 22.78%
38. Quake 2 21.85%
39. Punch Out 21.82%
40. GT3 21.36%
41. Metroid Prime 21.35%
42. System Shock 2 21.14%
43. Sonic 1 20.52%
44. MMX 20.39%
45. CC: Red Alert 20.22%
46. Contra 18.68%
47. MechWarrior 2 18.63%
48. Myst 18.55%
49. Pac-Man 18.14%
50. Jedi Knight 2 18.00%
51. Age of Empires 2 16.51%
52. RE2 15.18%
53. SotN 14.71%
54. Tony Hawk 2 14.36%
55. Donkey Kong 14.24%
56. Madden NFL 13.81%
57. Marathon 12.13%
58. Pong 11.30%
59. SSX 3 9.87 %
60. Pokemon R/B/Y 8.68 %
61. Tomb Raider 8.55 %
62. Virtua Fighter 4 7.82 %
63. Gabriel Knight 2 7.61 %
64. Zork 0.41 %

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ZenOfThunder | Posted 12/9/2008 6:16:34 PM | message detail
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Made some mistakes with this one. Gotta fix it up.
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ZFS | Posted 12/9/2008 6:19:37 PM | message detail
Ha. So I hear GameSpy likes PC games

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TestIcicles | Posted 12/9/2008 6:20:13 PM | message detail
I heard they like mu--*gets shot*

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Gaddswell | Posted 12/9/2008 6:20:57 PM | message detail
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Nice job with these, Zen!
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trannyscience | Posted 12/9/2008 6:26:56 PM | message detail
64. Zork 0.41 %

get this the hell out of here
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Gaddswell | Posted 12/9/2008 6:28:22 PM | message detail
60. Pokemon R/B/Y 8.68 %

Ouch...
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/9/2008 6:29:47 PM | message detail

From: Gaddswell | #178
60. Pokemon R/B/Y 8.68 %

Ouch...



pokemon is anti voted no matter where it is apparently!




1. Half-Life 50.00%
2. Unreal Tournament 47.69%
3. Battlefield 1942 46.22%
4. Counter-Strike 43.20%
5. Mario 3 41.86%
6. Doom 41.85%
7. Diablo 2 39.41%
8. StarCraft 38.77%
9. Halo 38.05%

This should be our noble 9 games imo
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Gaddswell | Posted 12/9/2008 6:30:56 PM | message detail
Pokemon R/B/Y vs World of Warcraft, go!
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/9/2008 6:42:45 PM | message detail
Anybody notice that L-Shaped Tetris Block is the name of the person that did the writeup for Tetris in round 1?

Coincidence? I think not!
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Ngamer64 | Posted 12/9/2008 6:58:49 PM | message detail
Now, obviously GameSpy is hugely PC FPS-biased (not surprising- the site started as a way for gamers to play Quake together in the mid 90s and has never really grown out of that mold), so I think the more interesting thing to look at is, how did non-PC games fare? I removed all the computer games from the lineup and re-calced the stats, which creates a listing that looks alot more normal to us GameFAQs users.

GameSpy Title Fight - 2004 non-PC X-Stats
1 Mario 3 50.00
2 Halo 45.45
3 Ocarina 43.88
4 Chrono Trigger 40.04
5 GTA:VC 39.89
6 FF7 39.69
7 MK64 39.31
8 MGS 37.21
9 GE 35.54
10 KotoR 34.56
11 FFT 34.10
12 Tetris 31.95
13 Street Fighter 2 31.07
14 Super Metroid 28.81
15 Soul Calibur 2 27.21
16 Punch Out 26.06
17 GT3 25.51
18 Metroid Prime 25.50
19 Sonic 1 24.51
20 MMX 24.35
21 Contra 22.31
22 Pac-Man 21.67
23 RE2 18.13
24 SotN 17.57
25 Tony Hawk 2 17.15
26 Donkey Kong 17.01
27 Madden NFL 16.50
28 Pong 13.50
29 Pokemon R/B/Y 10.37
30 Tomb Raider 10.21
31 Virtua Fighter 4 9.34

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ZenOfThunder | Posted 12/9/2008 7:06:50 PM | message detail
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 12/9/2008 7:08:11 PM | message detail
ah that reminds me. if mega man gets in the context....

boxart ahoy..
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Gaddswell | Posted 12/9/2008 8:06:47 PM | message detail
Bet it'll be easy to rally noms for Mega Man with that picture!
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 12/9/2008 8:08:59 PM | message detail
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 12/9/2008 8:22:31 PM | message detail
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 12/9/2008 8:28:23 PM | message detail
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Ngamer64 | Posted 12/9/2008 8:54:04 PM | message detail
Aww jeez, tranny just blasted me for not discussing Title Fight in enough detail. This guy is relentless! I put up a new wiki article to try to appease him:

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/GameSpy_Title_Fight_2004

This page includes some interesting commentary, which I will now read aloud to you.


Results and Interesting Matches

* Super Mario Bros. 3 was the surprise of the bracket, making it all the way to the Final despite GameSpy being heavily biased towards PC shooters. The biggest highlight was Mario's 2 vote victory against overall #1 seeded Doom in a tournament semi-final match that drew over 17,000 voters. Half-Life then knocked Mario 3 out with 58% of the vote to win the '04 title.
* Diablo II was the most controversial game of the tourney; it scored a Round Three victory over StarCraft in an incredibly high-scoring match. Afterwards GameSpy discovered that both games had been cheating to inflate their totals and that the DII cheaters had just been a bit more persistent than those for SC. After new security was put in place to make cheating more difficult, DII was soundly thumped out of the tourney by Half-Life to the tune of 61%.
* Mario Kart 64 was the Cinderella of Title Fight, reaching the Elite Eight despite having only earned a 5 seed in its division (to be fair though it had a very easy road... the only decent games it had to knock off were Soul Calibur II and Metal Gear Solid).
* The highlight of R1 was an RPG duel between Final Fantasy VII and Chrono Trigger where CT used a Frog-like "clutch" last hour to pull out a victory of less than 100 votes.
* The worst blowout of the tournament was suffered by Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow which drew the worst possible opponent in Ocarina of Time and took an 88% SFF beating as a result.


Now some quick

Comments on the non-PC x-stats

- weird to see Halo so high, but keep in mind that by 2004 the game WAS a PC FPS and so technically I should have excluded it, even though the majority of its popularity was still coming from the Xbox of course
- based on its R1 result, Goldeneye comes up just a touch short of MGS. however, due to a bracket quirk GE was able to win an "extra life" and re-enter the tournament - unfortunately it lost to Halo for a second time, but it improved by a few percent over its R1 loss, which would move it to just a touch ahead of MGS in the x-stats. the eternal rivalry continues!
- yes FF7 was knocked out in the first round (as so often seems to happen in non-GameFAQs, non-site wide tournaments), but CT went on to have some surprisingly legit strength, so it really wasn't such a bad result
- watch out for MK64; even on a site that cares nothing for racing/sports titles it was recognized as a standout N64 multi experience, finishing pretty close to both GE and OoT in the final standings

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trannyscience | Posted 12/9/2008 8:56:45 PM | message detail
Thanks for that, Ngamer.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/9/2008 9:00:14 PM | message detail
The Gamespy stats project CT to get 45.62% on OOT. The 2004 Gamefaqs stats project CT to get 45.25% on OOT. A difference of less than half a percent? Gamespy stats are accurate, Half Life to win the contest confirmed.
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Ngamer64 | Posted 12/9/2008 9:00:59 PM | message detail
My pleasure, friend!

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trannyscience | Posted 12/9/2008 9:01:14 PM | message detail
hey, here's another World of Warcraft poll to remind everyone of how unpopular it is on this site.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/9/2008 9:02:45 PM | message detail
Let's go "never played!" Stay above 60%!
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 12/9/2008 9:03:41 PM | message detail
Yeah, I doubt Warcraft will be making some noise in this upcoming contest after all.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/9/2008 9:05:44 PM | message detail
Never played is over a doubling and rising, having actually done worse in the first minute? 70% here we come. (more realistically, it can finish above 65%).
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/9/2008 9:12:05 PM | message detail
Let's go "never played!" Stay above 60%!

The "Never played" option is currently doing even worse than in an earlier poll:

Do you play World of Warcraft?
Yes, I've got at least one Level 70 8.69% 8900
Yes, but I haven't made it that far yet 8.02% 8217
Yes, but I never bought the expansion 2.3% 2358
I used to, but I had to quit 15% 15363
No, I've never played it 65.98% 67560
TOTAL VOTES 102398


However, it's possible that the "Never played" option could drop below 65.98% before the end of this poll.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/9/2008 9:30:20 PM | message detail
Its actually higher then earlier polls said.. weren't earlier polls about 31% played it? This one is 34%
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