GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 647
| WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 12/9/2008 8:37:04 AM | message detail |
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Prime. Sure, Wind Waker is no LttP, but just seeing how badly SM got buried makes me think Prime will have the edge. --- ...I'm still War13104! "and seriously, white flags, god damnit. v.v" - ExThaNemesis, 11:44 PM EST, 1/28/07 |
| transience | Posted 12/9/2008 8:40:33 AM | message detail |
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Mario 64 got buried by Zelda even worse and I don't see too many people using that in an argument against it. Prime wins though, probably. --- xyzzy "I hope you are this idiot only in the internet ^__^" -linkhatesganon |
| MichaelWClark | Posted 12/9/2008 8:41:34 AM | message detail |
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Prime wins, in a complete travesty though. If that match happens and Prime really wins, I lose all hope in GameFAQs. --- Gunner is, what is the word... passionate. but i think that MichaelWClark dude is far crazier than anything Gunner has posted. Posted by Mark Milton |
| WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 12/9/2008 8:44:50 AM | message detail |
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Super Mario World doesn't have a case of holding up against Zelda SFF to its name, though. Prime does. --- ...I'm still War13104! "and seriously, white flags, god damnit. v.v" - ExThaNemesis, 11:44 PM EST, 1/28/07 |
| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 12/9/2008 8:45:06 AM | message detail |
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I'd take Metroid Prime, seeing as how badly Super Metroid got BURIED by Link to the Past, and although Wind Waker is no LttP, this causes me to think Prime will have the edge. --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." -Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 12/9/2008 8:46:19 AM | message detail |
| Do you think Prime would hold up to LttP better
than Super Metroid did? Or do you think Super Metroid would hold up
just as well to TWW as Prime did? I'd probably take Metroid Prime, personally. Around GameFAQs, it probably has a higher play rate. Though with how strong Samus was in 2002, hard to say. That couldn't have been ALL Smash Bros. --- FastFalcon is without a doubt the best Guru I've ever heard of, savvy? http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-withtoupee.gif |
| WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 12/9/2008 8:47:56 AM | message detail |
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Prime would hold up better against LttP by virtue of not being a Super Nintendo game, so that really isn't fair. --- ...I'm still War13104! "and seriously, white flags, god damnit. v.v" - ExThaNemesis, 11:44 PM EST, 1/28/07 |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 12/9/2008 8:48:19 AM | message detail |
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That's why I asked the inverse question. --- FastFalcon is without a doubt the best Guru I've ever heard of, savvy? http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-withtoupee.gif |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 12/9/2008 8:51:22 AM | message detail |
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wow, so many people favoring Prime. i guess it did give Samus a great boost, but i like to favor past over present more. that, and Super Metroid just seems to be on more top lists. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| transience | Posted 12/9/2008 8:52:51 AM | message detail |
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#24: Super Metroid - SNES #25: Half-Life 2 - PC #26: Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars - SNES #27: Grand Theft Auto III - PS2 #28: Pokemon Red - GB #29: Metroid Prime - GC woo I'd pick Super Metroid just out of favouritism --- xyzzy "I hope you are this idiot only in the internet ^__^" -linkhatesganon |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 12/9/2008 8:54:14 AM | message detail |
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wow. just barely? i thought Metroid Prime was like waaaay far away. well, i dunno. i guess it was my gut all along and i just grasped for straws. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 12/9/2008 8:54:56 AM | message detail |
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Mario RPG vs. Pokemon R/B/Y: Go! --- FastFalcon is without a doubt the best Guru I've ever heard of, savvy? http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-withtoupee.gif |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 12/9/2008 8:57:04 AM | message detail |
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i guess that's just a battle of what the site prefers the most. you'll be damned to find somebody who HASN'T played Red/Blue. but yeah, kinda hard to figure out where the SFF goes if there is any. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 12/9/2008 8:58:10 AM | message detail |
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#25: Half-Life 2 - PC Ranked 25th on a heavily console-oriented site while being a PC exclusive? Yeah, I'm convinced HL2 will go very far in this contest now. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 12/9/2008 8:59:59 AM | message detail |
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It's not even the highest PC game on the list. It'd be strong, but I doubt it beats a big name. --- FastFalcon is without a doubt the best Guru I've ever heard of, savvy? http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-withtoupee.gif |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 12/9/2008 9:01:02 AM | message detail |
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That was before it was out for consoles. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/9/2008 9:01:37 AM | message detail |
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I'd take Starcraft over HL2 55-45 --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 FastFalcon is apparantly better at contesty stuff than me. |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 12/9/2008 9:03:36 AM | message detail |
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Starcraft will beat the vast majority of games here just because cheating is allowed in the contest. I'm thinking top 5 or 6. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 12/9/2008 9:09:28 AM | message detail |
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Nah, StarCraft could barely beat Wind Waker and Halo with cheating. As a matter of fact, I doubt it does anywhere near as well this contest, but people will take it deep into the contest. --- FastFalcon is without a doubt the best Guru I've ever heard of, savvy? http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-withtoupee.gif |
| HaRRicH | Posted 12/9/2008 9:15:24 AM | message detail |
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SMRPG/Pokemon R-B-Y would be fun, but there's no way I'm not taking
SMRPG. On top of (barely) outdoing R/B/Y in the Top 100 List and SMRPG
looking far more impressive than G/S/C in 2004, SMRPG is a big seller
for the SNES and it recently came out for the VC. It's one of the most
emulated games, and this is an RPG made by Square in collaboration with
Nintendo...on GameFAQs. That's something most RPGs can't stand up
against. Throw in any anti-votes R/B/Y may get (which shouldn't be so
many, but still) and that handheld games have traditionally not done as
well as console games (GotY's, Top 100 List, BGE-2004, and general
boosts for characters support this)...all that makes for a tough case
for R/B/Y to win. Granted, Pokemon R/B/Y has sold a near-infinite amount of games and changed the gaming scene for a long time with its series. That said, SMRPG has still shown it's probably stronger indirectly. RPG-fans may support Square more than Nintendo while Nintendo-fans may support Mario more than Pokemon, and console-games tend to do better here. SMRPG is the only way for me, though they may be close indirectly. --- FastFalcon05 absolutely decimated me in the Guru challenge. How bad was it? ...I don't want to talk about it. |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 12/9/2008 9:18:14 AM | message detail |
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Nah, StarCraft could barely beat Wind Waker and Halo with cheating. As a matter of fact, I doubt it does anywhere near as well this contest, but people will take it deep into the contest. StarCraft's initial strength is probably around Halo level. Cheating will always push it to beat everything higher then it. It definitely would have beaten SSBM if CJayC didn't stop it, and it probably would have kept going too. You can't look at it's strength as a static thing and peg it around WW/Halo, because people will cheat to make it go further. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 12/9/2008 9:18:26 AM | message detail |
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i suppose Mewtwo doesn't make things better, does it? --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| transience | Posted 12/9/2008 9:19:32 AM | message detail |
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that list was 2005, before Pokemon kinda exploded here. that's before
the series contest, and I don't even think we had a Pokemon in 2006's
contest. (no, Nidoran doesn't count.) --- xyzzy "I hope you are this idiot only in the internet ^__^" -linkhatesganon |
| Lopen | Posted 12/9/2008 9:20:09 AM | message detail |
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Yeah, Half Life does better on that poll by virtue of being a PC game. It doesn't speak that well for it really. --- FastFalcon's quest to defeat Lopen: Round - blagh I am dead. Target: 467+. Target obtained and shattered damn you FastFalcon. |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 12/9/2008 9:22:20 AM | message detail |
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Yeah, Half Life does better on that poll by virtue of being a PC game. It doesn't speak that well for it really. How does that make any sense? --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| red sox 777 | Posted 12/9/2008 9:25:20 AM | message detail |
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I think very highly of Mario RPG (it was supposed to get 43ish on Mario World through Chrono Trigger, and that's before any SFF it may have taken from CT), but I think RBY is a top 10 level game. As for Starcraft, yeah it barely beat Halo and WW, but it also got very close to SSBM. It has potential to go deep into the contest, but it needs a favorable bracket setup to build its momentum like last time. Let SC go up against FFVII late in the contest, and it probably finishes #3 in the x-stats. --- Congratulations to Crono for making his first true finals match, your 5 time contest champion, Link, and the Guru Champion FastFalcon |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 12/9/2008 9:25:28 AM | message detail |
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It definitely would have beaten SSBM if CJayC didn't stop it, and it probably would have kept going too It could only surpass Melee through blatant mass stuffing. More subtle methods would have fallen short. StarCraft can't beat EVERYTHING. Matter of fact, I think a lot of games have a great shot of beating it, stuffing or not. --- FastFalcon is without a doubt the best Guru I've ever heard of, savvy? http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-withtoupee.gif |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 12/9/2008 9:26:02 AM | message detail |
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(it was supposed to get 43ish on Mario World through Chrono Trigger Try 40. --- FastFalcon is without a doubt the best Guru I've ever heard of, savvy? http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-withtoupee.gif |
| red sox 777 | Posted 12/9/2008 9:28:10 AM | message detail |
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SC would have cleared 48% against Melee without any stuffing or
rallying, and it would have probably cleared 49% without stuffing.
CJayC confirmed stuffing, but didn't actually remove any votes because
Melee won anyway, so SC failed to clear 50% on Melee even with stuffing
and rallying. I believe SC's bandwagon was more responsible for its run
than its rally power. --- Congratulations to Crono for making his first true finals match, your 5 time contest champion, Link, and the Guru Champion FastFalcon |
| Lopen | Posted 12/9/2008 9:29:36 AM | message detail |
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Primarily PC gamers have less Mega Hits to support so there's a higher
concentration of a select few games on their list. Though I suppose
it's possible that the lower concentration of PC Gamers would cancel
that out. Still, Gordon Freeman's interesting performances certainly
make me think Half Life would overperform on a contest in that format,
if nothing else. It could only surpass Melee through blatant mass stuffing. More subtle methods would have fallen short. I think the point is Bacon doesn't give a crap and will let blatant mass stuffing happen. It'll be hilarious. I hope Starcraft has the same support it did back then. --- FastFalcon's quest to defeat Lopen: Round - blagh I am dead. Target: 467+. Target obtained and shattered damn you FastFalcon. |
| red sox 777 | Posted 12/9/2008 9:31:28 AM | message detail |
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Hmm....that's odd, for some reason I thought CT got 65% on SMRPG
instead of 67%. Well, the point still stands- there is quite a bit of
potential for SFF there. I'd take RBY over SMW though so the point is
moot as far as that matchup is concerned for me. --- Congratulations to Crono for making his first true finals match, your 5 time contest champion, Link, and the Guru Champion FastFalcon |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 12/9/2008 9:51:28 AM | message detail |
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It could only surpass Melee through blatant mass stuffing. What, if anything, tells you that it won't receive that? Bacon has already proved that he does not care about cheating in these contests. He's opening the door for the biggest cheater we've ever seen in any contest, and you think it's going to be weaker then before? Top 3 finish is probably a little too high for it, but I wouldn't be shocked to see it. If it gains momentum like the Block, then who knows what could happen. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 12/9/2008 10:08:56 AM | message detail |
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StarCraft couldn't beat Melee even with the most blatant
cheating...that 1400 vote surge in 15 minutes was left in purely
because Melee didn't lose. If that's not proof that StarCraft can't
beat Melee even with massively blatant stuffing I don't know what is. And say what you will about Bacon, we've never seen anything as awful as that StarCraft cut under his watch. Crono and Frog have nothing on Starcraft. --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/main.php?user=rpguy96 |
| transience | Posted 12/9/2008 10:11:45 AM | message detail |
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Hmm....that's odd, for some reason I thought CT got 65% on SMRPG
instead of 67%. Well, the point still stands- there is quite a bit of
potential for SFF there. I'd take RBY over SMW though so the point is
moot as far as that matchup is concerned for me. really? methinks you'd be alone on that pick -- very, very alone. --- xyzzy "I hope you are this idiot only in the internet ^__^" -linkhatesganon |
| MnMZero | Posted 12/9/2008 10:18:51 AM | message detail |
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Prime wins against SM. Unlike the other classic SNES Nintendo games, Super Metroid hasn't gotten any
spotlight since then. It seems to be going the way of Metroid 2
(sadly... why hasn't M2 been given a remake? I actually liked that
game!) LttP, SMW, SMW2, Kirby Super Star, the DKC games, the MMX games,
and others have all gotten spotlight through handheld ports, or
compilations. Yeah, there's VC, but that really doesn't give it much
compared to the other games. Plus I think the "Prime" name gives MP the slight edge as it serves as a representative of the whole 3D series as well. That'll give it the edge amongst non-Metroid fans in a direct matchup, although SM's fanbase will try and keep it close. --- Proud Supporter of Zero |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 12/9/2008 10:34:02 AM | message detail |
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CJayC confirmed stuffing, but didn't actually remove any votes because Melee won anyway I thought he DID remove votes. I guess I was mistaken... --- FastFalcon is without a doubt the best Guru I've ever heard of, savvy? http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-withtoupee.gif |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/9/2008 10:43:45 AM | message detail |
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From: LeonhartFour | #136 Nah he said he would of only removed votes if Starcraft ended up winning --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/Albion+Hero.png FastFalcon05 sure knows how to fill out a Guru Contest bracket better than I! |
| charmander6000 | Posted 12/9/2008 1:03:45 PM | message detail |
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Besides doing nothing which he did CJayC only had two other options. 1. Remove all the votes from that 15 min. which was 2050 - 950 for Starcraft. 2. Remove the 637 votes that he verified were cheated votes, though in the topic he said that there were probably more, but since Melee wasn't in danger of losing he stopped. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls Congratulations to FastFalcon for winning the guru contest, you are the best among the best. |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 12/9/2008 1:04:22 PM | message detail |
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Pokemon R/B/Y is going to do very, very well this contest. It has a
ridiculous amount of things going for it. I think it beats SMW before
SMRPG beats it. --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
| ZFS | Posted 12/9/2008 1:18:00 PM | message detail |
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Metroid Prime vs. Super Metroid: Who wins? Tough one. Everything we've seen points to Super Metroid being the better of the two - it finished higher on that list, it beat Prime in a 'Favorite Metroid' poll back in 2004, and it's rated higher all around. Think I would go with Super Metroid in a close match over it directly, but I'd expect Super Metroid to be clearly the stronger of the two indirectly. SM will have a killer run this year if it gets a non-Nintendo path - and I'd bet most people underestimate it because of the ALttP match. --- http://i36.tinypic.com/311kh8w.gif |
| HaRRicH | Posted 12/9/2008 1:18:14 PM | message detail |
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It's no knock on R/B/Y to lose to SMRPG -- I just think highly of its
strength. It'll also be interesting since R/B/Y should pretty easily be
the strongest purely-handheld game we've ever seen. That said, SMRPG
has the majority of x-factors on its side against R/B/Y from my
perspective; if Square/Nintendo-fans shift to SMRPG/Mario over
R-B-Y/Pokemon even a little bit, that spells doom for the game. For what it's worth, we've seen FFTA "impress" against FFX by not being easily SFF'd...and R/B/Y > FFTA while FFX > SMRPG. I still think it's in a tough position though, especially since that example resulted in a doubling. --- FastFalcon05 absolutely decimated me in the Guru challenge. How bad was it? ...I don't want to talk about it. |
| The_Ocelot2 | Posted 12/9/2008 1:20:49 PM | message detail |
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Why are nominations still not on the front page? --- What's quicker than an Ocelot? A FastFalcon http://img.imgcake.com/remember_the_stinkers.jpg |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 12/9/2008 1:23:22 PM | message detail |
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I would take MP>SM because...well, in a close match, gotta go with new>old. --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
| ZFS | Posted 12/9/2008 1:24:52 PM | message detail |
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Just to throw out that poll I was talking about: Poll 1528 (02/13/2004) What's your favorite all-time Metroid title? 4449 8.66% Metroid 1182 2.30% Metroid II 20475 39.84% Super Metroid 4915 9.56% Metroid Fusion 17769 34.57% Metroid Prime 2605 5.07% Metroid: Zero Mission --- http://i36.tinypic.com/311kh8w.gif |
| MnMZero | Posted 12/9/2008 1:34:50 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, that's where the non-Metroid fans come in. SM probably does have
a larger fanbase, but since that poll, we've had Metroid Prime 2, and
Metroid Prime 3 on the Wii. Not to mention Metroid Prime Hunters. It
seems like all the Metroid attention has been focused on the "Prime"
series, which would give it the edge for those that don't really have a
strong preference. --- Proud Supporter of Zero |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 12/9/2008 1:40:48 PM | message detail |
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Given that the poll has 5 2D Metroids and only one 3D, I have to think SM was more hurt by SFF there than MP was. --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. As is FastFalcon |
| ZenOfThunder | Posted 12/9/2008 3:40:08 PM | message detail |
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http://img.imgcake.com/Zen/bge09_mock_1_ver_1.png YOU KNOW YOU'D LOVE IT --- (|| ' ' ||) Not changing my sig until EBA2/Ouendan 3 is announced. (4/22/08) . /|_|\ http://imgcake.com/img/40/all_eba.jpg |
| ZenOfThunder | Posted 12/9/2008 3:45:09 PM | message detail |
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Also, I'm taking requests for mock match pictures now. They'll be a bit
rough, but I'll make sure they look as pretty as I can get them. --- (|| ' ' ||) Not changing my sig until EBA2/Ouendan 3 is announced. (4/22/08) . /|_|\ http://imgcake.com/img/40/all_eba.jpg |
| Gaddswell | Posted 12/9/2008 3:52:40 PM | message detail |
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Ha, secret Batman vs Spiderman poll! Uh... how about a Melee / Brawl pic? --- http://www.court-records.net/manga/4koma/(eng)4koma2.png Hail FastFalcon, our new guru overlord! |
| charmander6000 | Posted 12/9/2008 3:52:45 PM | message detail |
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I guess I should remind everyone that GameSpy had a game contest back in 2004 as well. http://archive.gamespy.com/titlefight/brackets.shtml lol Final Fantasy VII vs. Chrono Trigger in round 1 --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls Congratulations to FastFalcon for winning the guru contest, you are the best among the best. |
