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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 646

KamikazePotato | Posted 12/4/2008 8:11:16 PM | message detail
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Of course this game is on the PS3. Arg arg arg.

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red sox 777 | Posted 12/4/2008 8:14:43 PM | message detail
OOT and CT are probably locks for 1-seeds, with OOT taking overall #1. They'll get lots of nominations, and both have very high review scores and ratings.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/4/2008 8:16:02 PM | message detail
Chrono trigger actually is higher then OoT if you look at all 3 gamefaqs review scores
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ZFS | Posted 12/4/2008 8:17:29 PM | message detail
Which game has the highest chance of being the overall 1 seed?

Ocarina of Time - I'd be surprised if it was anything else. It has a good chance at getting the most overall nominations, then it's got the best professional ratings, and its My Games rating is probably one of the highest on the site.

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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 12/4/2008 10:27:24 PM | message detail
Series caps would be ok if we were talking about keeping something like Madden '08 and Madden '09 out of the contest (just an example, I know gamefaqs hates sports games). It just doesn't work with a series like Final Fantasy though, where each game is completely different. You might as well just have a RPG cap, which would make as much sense.

And I'm still annoyed with FFVIII not making the last contest. I think it would really surprise some people, considering how it's always hindered by FFVII in the polls we've seen. I'd take it over both FFX and VI.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/5/2008 9:46:02 AM | message detail
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Ultimaphazon | Posted 12/5/2008 12:43:18 PM | message detail
Am I the only one who would actually love to see FFXII in this contest? I hate the game but it could do well.

Sure, Balthier has been a huge flop, but it's still very high in the PS2 Top10.
I don't think it stands a chance against X, but there are quite a number of vocal fans.

In a FFVIII vs FFXII matchup, I think I'd side with XII in a close match, and I'd take XII over IX in heartbeat.
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hailEC | Posted 12/5/2008 12:57:49 PM | message detail
12 > 8? lol no
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/5/2008 1:23:29 PM | message detail
No guarantee FF8 makes it in before 9!

The only way FFIX makes it in before FFVIII is if the nominations are limited to this board. FFVIII had enough nominations to be a 3 seed in Division 32/64. It's getting in as long as there's no cap.

How it does in the contest is a different story altogether, but it's got more than enough fans to get it in at the very least. Remember it smoked FFIX on The List.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 12/5/2008 1:27:40 PM | message detail
FFXII beating any FF in the VI-X sequence would surprise me.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/5/2008 1:28:39 PM | message detail
FFXII has a decent shot at beating FFIX, but other than that, no.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 12/5/2008 1:34:52 PM | message detail
IX and XII both getting into the contest would do much, much more than simply surprise me, let alone both facing weak enough competition for them to meet in a match.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/5/2008 1:36:31 PM | message detail
Yeah, I highly doubt both of them make it in (and I'd expect FFIX way before FFXII. The latter fell off the map way too fast). I'm just saying in a hypothetical match, FFIX is the only "modern" FF I'd give it a shot against. And I'd still take FFIX and feel pretty comfortable about it.
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ZFS | Posted 12/5/2008 1:38:05 PM | message detail
FFXII would do well in a contest if only because of its namesake, but it wouldn't be stronger than FFVIII or FFIX, I don't think. No need to see it in a contest.

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 12/5/2008 2:03:56 PM | message detail
where do people consider FFIX (or 9) to be in strength?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/5/2008 2:24:36 PM | message detail
Asking where games are in strength is a really difficult question. Looking at the 2004 stats, the strongest game I'd take it over is...Maybe MGS2? It'd probably be in the same range as the original Final Fantasy, though a noticeable bit higher.

Of course, the Games Contest stats are next to worthless. This is what's going to make this contest so great. Nobody can really agree on what games are stronger than what. I just hope the bracket delivers.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/5/2008 7:29:17 PM | message detail
Am I the only one who would find it awesome for CT to take the overall #1 seed?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/5/2008 7:32:00 PM | message detail
Considering no one here wants OoT or FF7 to win again (I think anyway, Link had way too many supporters for my liking) I would enjoy anything that makes the possibility of them losing more likely.

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swirIdude | Posted 12/5/2008 7:35:23 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 12/5/2008 10:29:17 PM
Am I the only one who would find it awesome for CT to take the overall #1 seed?



I support any game that features throwing footballs over mountains.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/5/2008 8:55:18 PM | message detail
After CT, I do want FFVII/OOT to win. Really though, the thing I want most is a credible winner- something that doesn't have to rely on joke votes or a massive bandwagon boosting its strength massively between rounds.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/5/2008 8:57:21 PM | message detail
Besides, my Link fanboyism had been repressed for 4 years prior to that finals match, 4 years of not wanting him to repeat as champion. Let me root for my third favorite character in video games for a day.
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MichaelWClark | Posted 12/5/2008 8:58:16 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #318
Considering no one here wants OoT or FF7 to win again (I think anyway, Link had way too many supporters for my liking) I would enjoy anything that makes the possibility of them losing more likely.




I want CT to win, next would be OoT, next would be FF VII.
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Gunner is, what is the word... passionate. but i think that MichaelWClark dude is far crazier than anything Gunner has posted. Posted by Mark Milton
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/5/2008 9:21:33 PM | message detail
I would want CT to win, then next would be WoW (c'mon 4way), then FF7
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MichaelWClark | Posted 12/5/2008 11:14:08 PM | message detail
So, since KP's incredibly off base post, the next 3 all want FF VII to win. Nice.
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Gunner is, what is the word... passionate. but i think that MichaelWClark dude is far crazier than anything Gunner has posted. Posted by Mark Milton
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/6/2008 10:25:34 AM | message detail
then next would be WoW (c'mon 4way)

All the reason not to have a 4-way contest.
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GameZACKS | Posted 12/6/2008 2:49:02 PM | message detail
How well is everyone expecting RE4 to do? Surprised there's been so little talk surrounding what could be a top 10 game.

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HaRRicH | Posted 12/6/2008 3:45:21 PM | message detail
I would put RE4 in the classic GE/MGS/SM64/FF8 range, give or take a little. I think it could contend well with them, at least.
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GameZACKS | Posted 12/6/2008 3:47:52 PM | message detail
I think I'd take RE4 to beat every one of those games, except SM64.

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GameZACKS | Posted 12/6/2008 3:48:40 PM | message detail
And SM64 would obliterate Goldeneye. I know they did essentially equal against OoT... but it's freakin' OoT.

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charmander6000 | Posted 12/6/2008 3:51:26 PM | message detail
And SM64 would obliterate Goldeneye. I know they did essentially equal against OoT... but it's freakin' OoT.

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Super Mario 64 - 23.74%
GoldenEye 007 - 26.95%

Not equal though 64 should win against 007 without much trouble.
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greatone10 | Posted 12/6/2008 4:00:44 PM | message detail
You gotta believe Goldeneye would suffer a little bit less SFF too, seeing as though it's a little bit less of a Nintendo option than Super Mario 64.
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TestIcicles | Posted 12/6/2008 4:01:27 PM | message detail
Not to mention I'd expect SM64 has held up better over the past 4 years than 007, but yes, of course that too.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/6/2008 4:20:28 PM | message detail
Mario 64 would absolutely destroy Goldeneye.
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ZFS | Posted 12/6/2008 4:33:32 PM | message detail
I'd have a hard time seeing RE4 as a top 10 game, but it'd be an easy top 20 - I'd put it right around MGS1 and Goldeneye in strength, who I put below the TP/FFX/SM64/FFVI/SMG group.

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red sox 777 | Posted 12/6/2008 4:38:51 PM | message detail
Those numbers against OOT project Goldeneye to beat SM64 with 55.96%. Not saying I'd pick GE, but that doesn't look like much of a lock.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 12/6/2008 4:50:57 PM | message detail
didnt they get similar percentages in the first round? which game do you think is more popular: panzer or nights into dreams?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/6/2008 4:52:10 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #335
Those numbers against OOT project Goldeneye to beat SM64 with 55.96%. Not saying I'd pick GE, but that doesn't look like much of a lock.



Link typically SFF's Mario to hell, and I'd expect Goldeneye to not be SFF'd as much in a match against Zelda (even though its on n64). So I don't think its very accurate looking at it that way.
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TestIcicles | Posted 12/6/2008 4:53:17 PM | message detail
How much did RE sell on the GC relative to the big sellers on the system? Or as a whole?

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/6/2008 4:54:51 PM | message detail

From: TestIcicles | #338
How much did RE sell on the GC relative to the big sellers on the system? Or as a whole?



The GC version was actually the worst selling of the RE4s iirc... ps2 sold best then Wii. It still sold a little over a million though
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HaRRicH | Posted 12/6/2008 5:28:23 PM | message detail
For what it's worth, when RE4 got #14 on the Top 100 List, that was probably entirely off of Gamecube-support since the PS2-version was only out for one day before the list closed. If the GC was the worst-selling version...oh hell.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/6/2008 5:38:44 PM | message detail
http://www.vgchartz.com/games/index.php?name=resident+evil+4

Actually I'm wrong, the GC version outsold Wii version by 70k... Wii version will likely be better selling when its all said and done though. PS2 version had about a million more sales though
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ZFS | Posted 12/6/2008 5:40:13 PM | message detail
Nah. The Wii is the 'worst' selling of the three - 1.3 million on the PS2, 1.0 million on the GCN, and about 600,000 on the Wii..

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/6/2008 5:41:24 PM | message detail

From: ZFS | #342
Nah. The Wii is the 'worst' selling of the three - 1.3 million on the PS2, 1.0 million on the GCN, and about 600,000 on the Wii..



More like 2.7 on PS2, 1.7 on GC, and 1.6 on wii

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/index.php?name=resident+evil+4
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ZFS | Posted 12/6/2008 5:43:31 PM | message detail
woo vgchartz

I was talking about U.S. sales, which are from NPD. VGChartz's worldwide sales are still off base, though. Worldwide, it's 2.05 million for the PS2, 1.6 million for the GCN, and 1.40 million for the Wii.

http://ir.capcom.co.jp/english/data/million.html

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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/6/2008 5:44:35 PM | message detail
Seeing Leon do so well last contest gives me a lot of faith in RE4 getting stronger, too.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/6/2008 5:45:07 PM | message detail
* Release : 2005/12
* Platform : PlayStation2
* Units : 2,050 thousand units

wtf does that units mean?
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ZFS | Posted 12/6/2008 5:46:07 PM | message detail
It reads just like I said - 2.05 million.

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XxSoulxX | Posted 12/6/2008 5:46:39 PM | message detail
Yeah, many sites said that RE4 sold at least one million for the Wii a while back. This was before RE:UC was released.
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TestIcicles | Posted 12/6/2008 5:47:06 PM | message detail
#14 with 1/3rd of it's sales? I don't like to put a lot into the list, but it's just another positive for it. I could see it being the most powerful GC/PS2/Xbox era game.

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XxSoulxX | Posted 12/6/2008 5:47:16 PM | message detail
and 1.40 million for the Wii.

Ah, that makes sense now.
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