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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 646
| Masato_Tanaka | Posted 12/4/2008 3:43:35 PM | message detail |
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dude HM how long have you been set to joke mode --- The Straight Up G The Palace of Wisdom Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/4/2008 3:46:07 PM | message detail |
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Hogger beat Ramza because they were both close in strength all ready, so a little rallying was huge. Ramza isn't so weak to be only as strong as a random low level mosnter in WoW. Hogger was ALL rallying power. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/Albion+Hero.png FastFalcon05 sure knows how to fill out a Guru Contest bracket better than I! |
| Yesmar | Posted 12/4/2008 3:47:07 PM | message detail |
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Ramza isn't so weak to be only as strong as a random low level mosnter in WoW. Hogger was ALL rallying power. He was low enough to almost lose to Laharl, and that's pretty bad. --- FastFalcon owned me in the Guru Contest! |
| ZFS | Posted 12/4/2008 3:49:24 PM | message detail |
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If you want a more debatable Mario/Metal Gear match, MGS1 is the way to
go. MGS4's going to be the weakest link in the series. Shouldn't be
expecting any kind of elite showing out of MGS4 when its hindered by
PS3 ownership. --- http://i36.tinypic.com/2hehbis.gif |
| MichaelWClark | Posted 12/4/2008 3:49:30 PM | message detail |
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From: Yesmar | #203 Yeah, this. --- Gunner is, what is the word... passionate. but i think that MichaelWClark dude is far crazier than anything Gunner has posted. Posted by Mark Milton |
| Gaddswell | Posted 12/4/2008 3:49:32 PM | message detail |
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I think he WOULD have lost to Laharl, if people weren't rallying for him to beat Hogger. --- http://www.court-records.net/manga/4koma/(eng)4koma2.png Hail FastFalcon, our new guru overlord! |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 12/4/2008 3:53:12 PM | message detail |
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Speaking of 11,000,000 players... Who ya got in Wii Sports (over 17,000,000 in America alone) vs. World of Warcraft? --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. As is FastFalcon |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/4/2008 3:53:49 PM | message detail |
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I think it should show the power of WoW that a random low level monster is as strong with rally power as a FF lead. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/Albion+Hero.png FastFalcon05 sure knows how to fill out a Guru Contest bracket better than I! |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 12/4/2008 3:54:28 PM | message detail |
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It was SRPG LFF, guys! Not rallying! Come on now. MGS4 will do well if it's a 4-way contest, but one-on-one, it won't be able to compete with the top tiers. I don't think it'd be so weak as to lose to Mario RPG though. That just reeks of Stats Topic Overthink, like Mario Kart > Mega Man. --- FastFalcon is without a doubt the best Guru I've ever heard of, savvy? http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-withtoupee.gif |
| Master Moltar | Posted 12/4/2008 3:54:42 PM | message detail |
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From: Masato_Tanaka | #197 If this match happens, I'll cry. So I'd hope for a tie and then they would get combined into one godly game which is unstoppable. --- Moltar Status: yessssssss all hail FastFalcon the king of the guru |
| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 12/4/2008 3:55:00 PM | message detail |
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Or better yet, that a Final Fantasy lead character CAN be pathetically weak. --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." -Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 12/4/2008 3:55:34 PM | message detail |
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Cecil and Terra have already proven that anyway. --- FastFalcon is without a doubt the best Guru I've ever heard of, savvy? http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-withtoupee.gif |
| Gaddswell | Posted 12/4/2008 3:56:54 PM | message detail |
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Actually... who wins in a Cecil / Terra match? --- http://www.court-records.net/manga/4koma/(eng)4koma2.png Hail FastFalcon, our new guru overlord! |
| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 12/4/2008 3:57:06 PM | message detail |
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Cecil and Terra have already proven that anyway. Would you expect either of them to nearly lose to LAHARL? --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." -Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
| creativename | Posted 12/4/2008 3:57:15 PM | message detail |
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I just tried to nominate Final Fantasy VI - but apparently, while Final
Fantasy IV is there, there's no match in the system for Final Fantasy
VI. You have to enter Final Fantasy III instead. Anyone think this could affect the game's seeding - or even odds of making it, especially if there are franchise caps? Has this been discussed? --- Save_Us.RAT BREAK THE BLOCK DOWN |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 12/4/2008 3:57:52 PM | message detail |
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Would you expect either of them to nearly lose to LAHARL? .. why not? maybe Cecil, but Terra bombed in the female contest soon after. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 12/4/2008 3:58:08 PM | message detail |
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I think it should show the power of WoW that a random low level monster is as strong with rally power as a FF lead. And that both are about equal to the strength of Laharl! WoW Vs. Disgaea! --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 12/4/2008 3:59:02 PM | message detail |
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Is that true? Someone should mention that to Bacon. Cecil vs. Terra goes Cecil's way if he can get a pic worth anything. --- FastFalcon is without a doubt the best Guru I've ever heard of, savvy? http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-withtoupee.gif |
| Gaddswell | Posted 12/4/2008 3:59:05 PM | message detail |
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Might as well toss these out there as well! WoW vs ToS WoW vs Okami --- http://www.court-records.net/manga/4koma/(eng)4koma2.png Hail FastFalcon, our new guru overlord! |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 12/4/2008 3:59:14 PM | message detail |
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I don't think it'd be so weak as to lose to Mario RPG though. That
just reeks of Stats Topic Overthink, like Mario Kart > Mega Man. i think you're severely underrating Super Mario RPG. beating the biggest SF game has to mean something, and not being too far behind in SMW (along with SFF speculation) has to make it at least close if MGS4 does indeed win. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 12/4/2008 4:00:45 PM | message detail |
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beating the biggest SF game has to mean something It's not worth that much, honestly. SFII isn't THAT strong, and it wasn't an upset to me. I expected Mario RPG to beat it. It got doubled by Chrono Trigger. I wouldn't ever expect that to happen to MGS4. Franchise and hype voting will exist for MGS4 as much as any other series. --- FastFalcon is without a doubt the best Guru I've ever heard of, savvy? http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-withtoupee.gif |
| ZFS | Posted 12/4/2008 4:00:50 PM | message detail |
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SMRPG isn't that weak, I wouldn't think. It'd probably do better
against a game like MGS4 than it would up against Chrono Trigger.
Whatever SFF might have occurred there and whatever the Virtual Console
release added would help it look better now than it did back then, too.
Definitely a match that MGS4 can win, though - this is about the area
I'd peg MGS4 to be around. --- http://i36.tinypic.com/2hehbis.gif |
| MichaelWClark | Posted 12/4/2008 4:02:27 PM | message detail |
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From: Fayt_Esteed | #214 I would expect Cecil to lose to any character not named Tanner or Jay Salano, or from the Tales series. People who believe he would beat Midgar Zolom are delusional. I would quite easily take Ramza over Cecil. --- Gunner is, what is the word... passionate. but i think that MichaelWClark dude is far crazier than anything Gunner has posted. Posted by Mark Milton |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 12/4/2008 4:04:05 PM | message detail |
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http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3226/2967635640_648bcf9b27.jpg?v=0 Dark Knight Dissidia Cecil>Terra? --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 12/4/2008 4:06:44 PM | message detail |
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SFII isn't THAT strong, and it wasn't an upset to me. well, the only other SF game-related thing we've seen was SF in the series contest going head-to-head with RE (which essentially had RE4 out by then), and i would assume that the other RE games are just as big as the other SF games. SF II is essentially the series (or probably the majority of its strength), i certainly wouldn't call it a slouch, anyway. the only thing i'd be wary of myself is the franchise voting you mentioned; but we've already seen how it works and in four-ways no less. --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 12/4/2008 4:07:57 PM | message detail |
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That pic of Cecil I'd take over Terra. --- FastFalcon is without a doubt the best Guru I've ever heard of, savvy? http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-withtoupee.gif |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/4/2008 4:11:34 PM | message detail |
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| KamikazePotato | Posted 12/4/2008 4:12:19 PM | message detail |
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...what --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
| Gaddswell | Posted 12/4/2008 4:12:32 PM | message detail |
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huh? --- http://www.court-records.net/manga/4koma/(eng)4koma2.png Hail FastFalcon, our new guru overlord! |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/4/2008 4:12:47 PM | message detail |
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http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/f/fa/VI-terra_sd.jpg Terra needs this pic (I copied and pasted the pic too fast that it didn't register >_>) --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/Albion+Hero.png FastFalcon05 sure knows how to fill out a Guru Contest bracket better than I! |
| MegatokyoEd | Posted 12/4/2008 4:13:34 PM | message detail |
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To be far to Ramza, Laharl was obviously stronger this year after the
5000 ports of the original Disgaea. He's still obviously fodder but not
necessarily bad fodder. --- Demyx is better than Axel. |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 12/4/2008 4:15:01 PM | message detail |
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http://www.freewebs.com/inuyame/dis-laharl4.jpg Does Laharl beat Hogger/Ramza if he gets the bottom-right pic? --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/4/2008 4:16:10 PM | message detail |
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I feel that Ramza would likely double him in a 1v1 match, but with
Dante getting 50% there, alot of typical Ramza votes may of gone to
Dante, and Laharl prolly has a more dedicated fanbase (since they get
him in every year anyway) --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/Albion+Hero.png FastFalcon05 sure knows how to fill out a Guru Contest bracket better than I! |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 12/4/2008 4:16:40 PM | message detail |
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If anything, that'd get him LESS votes. What a freaky pic. --- FastFalcon is without a doubt the best Guru I've ever heard of, savvy? http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-withtoupee.gif |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 12/4/2008 4:27:57 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, but he would've certainly stood out! Especially if you give him a generic blue background. --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
| trannyscience | Posted 12/4/2008 4:30:12 PM | message detail |
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every Disgaea fan would vote for that picture. he'd probably get more
votes than some shirtless skinny blue haired dude with that thing too. come on, we like our characters DARK AND BROODING here at the ol' GameFAQs --- xyzzy |
| Gaddswell | Posted 12/4/2008 4:31:03 PM | message detail |
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I'd vote for him with that picture! Granted, his picture wouldn't affect my vote! --- http://www.court-records.net/manga/4koma/(eng)4koma2.png Hail FastFalcon, our new guru overlord! |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 12/4/2008 4:56:23 PM | message detail |
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It's worth noting that's how Laharl looks when he destroys 2 million
federation ships in Disgaea. So all the people who misguidedly think
the matches are actual fights would have learned this through thought
osmosis and voted Laharl. --- FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't. |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/4/2008 4:57:45 PM | message detail |
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Top right pic is the best. --- Falcon your brain in. ~*ST*~ Now Playing: Mother 3, Castlevania: OoE, MGS: Portable Ops |
| red sox 777 | Posted 12/4/2008 5:01:32 PM | message detail |
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Stats Topic overthink? Well, at least for me, SMRPG > MGS4 is my
first instinct. It's a PS3 game against a SNES game with proven
strength with Mario in the title. --- Congratulations to Crono for making his first true finals match, your 5 time contest champion, Link, and the Guru Champion FastFalcon |
| trannyscience | Posted 12/4/2008 5:02:36 PM | message detail |
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give me MGS4 there. it's a cute upset but not one I'd pull the trigger on. --- xyzzy |
| Biolizard28 | Posted 12/4/2008 5:17:48 PM | message detail |
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I think Cecil would kick Terra's face in, Dark Knight or no... Unless it's Amanobot. --- Biolizard28: The cream of Fire Emblem fanboyism. ALLEN LIED! PEOPLE LOST THEIR ABILITY TO CONTEST! |
| Mr3790 | Posted 12/4/2008 5:20:37 PM | message detail |
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That pic of Laharl is epic enough for me to vote for it! --- AC:WW Code: Name:Mr.378 Town:Darkcity FC: 4210-5769-8462 GENO WHIRL! |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 12/4/2008 5:57:34 PM | message detail |
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Hot update! Early discussion on whether or not FF7 would be capable of earning a legit #1 seed in the bracket got me thinking- what's the best possible seed that every game could earn, assuming it finished #1 in site-wide nominations? The new scoring system for seeding make the question pretty interesting, and my cool topic has the answer! http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=46919575&page=1 Short version: no, FF7's review scores just don't stand up across the board the way the would need to in order for it to earn a 1, even if the bracket were seeded with 8 divisions of 1-8. I imagine it will come in as the 2 in the weakest #1's division. --- thengamer.com/guru/ says we just got owned hard by FastFalcon! (thengamer.com/xstats & board8.wikia.com are neat) |
| trannyscience | Posted 12/4/2008 5:59:10 PM | message detail |
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oh ho ho my bracket is validated by N's mighty numbers I expect FF7 will get a 1 seed anyway. it's the returning champ and will get a boatload of nominations. --- xyzzy |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/4/2008 6:02:40 PM | message detail |
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You have to realize, recency will count for a lot in this contest. MGS4
would beat SMRPG methinks. People are underplaying the PS3 ownership
polls. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 FastFalcon is apparantly better at contesty stuff than me. |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/4/2008 6:03:45 PM | message detail |
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From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #246 I don't even own a PS3 and I'd vote for MGS4 just cuz I love MGS past games. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/Albion+Hero.png FastFalcon05 sure knows how to fill out a Guru Contest bracket better than I! |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/4/2008 6:30:01 PM | message detail |
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MGS4 > SMRPG is debatable now? WTF mates. --- Falcon your brain in. ~*ST*~ Now Playing: Mother 3, Castlevania: OoE, MGS: Portable Ops |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 12/4/2008 6:41:28 PM | message detail |
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it is to me, but i guess i just think of SMRPG different. of course, i never would have guessed SMRPG > SF II either. "MGS4 LOST?!?!?" --- *is Dranze* Through fire, justice is served because FastFalcon05 owned my bracket. |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 12/4/2008 6:44:02 PM | message detail |
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Here are some quick comments on the Max Ranks stats I ran. Check my topic for the full details if you're interested. * you can pretty much lock Ocarina into the overall #1. beyond that I'm pretty sure that RE4 and Chrono Trigger are near-locks for 1s as well, though I wouldn't say that for CT if not for the DS boost it will surely be getting * if the bracket is 8 divisions, Goldeneye and Galaxy should be pretty safe in their 1s as well. beyond that though I'm baffled as to what other three get the 1s... Metroid Prime and Super Met aren't the type to dominate nominations that hard (though they're probably safe as 2/3s), CoD4 probably doesn't has as much steam as it did 10 months back... best bet seems to be something like Mario 3, MGS4, and LttP sneaking up to steal the last 1s will happen * watch out for stuff like LittleBigPlanet, CoD4, and Half-Life 2 to get vastly over-seeded by the new system. other things like Gears 2 and Oblivion and Perfect Dark will be way too high also, but only if they can manage to get enough noms to crack the bracket, which I'm not sold on * as strong as they'll be, Melee and Brawl still aren't going to be able to earn 1 seeds. careful- they should enter as very dangerous 2/3s * likewise there's really no way for FF7 to earn a legitimate 1 seed... if it does we'll know that SB "tweaked" the system to let it happen. most likely scenario would be to see it as a #2 inside of the weakest #1's division.... probably something like LttP or MGS4 <noalbion> * if StarCraft or WoW or Diablo II or WC3 can make the bracket they're doing to be doing so as underdogs- SC might make it in as a 9 (or a 5 under 1-8 seeding), the others would probably be more like 10s/11s/12s/13s. massive upset potential! </noalbion> * keep an eye on Pokemon- whatever generations end up making the bracket, they're going to be entering with pretty bad seeds- I can't see them doing any better than 7s under a 1-8 seeding system. but that doesn't mean they'll be weak! I could easily see R/B/Y pulling off an upset against an over-seeded opponent in R1 Albion - keep in mind you're not allowed to read or react to anything inside of the noablion tags. For the sake of this topic's sanity. --- thengamer.com/guru/ says we just got owned hard by FastFalcon! (thengamer.com/xstats & board8.wikia.com are neat) |
