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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 644

WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 12/1/2008 9:25:33 PM | message detail
Heh, I just realized that this contest will be the first sign of how much CTDS helps. If Trigger stays as strong as it was in 2004, then Crono and company are looking good.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/1/2008 10:15:07 PM | message detail
I've quickly counted the first page of the tally topic, here's a list of games with three or more noms.

18 Nominations
Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island

13 Nominations
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney

11 Nominations
Mega Man 2

9 Nominations
The World Ends With You

8 Nominations
Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest
Super Mario 64
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask

7 Nominations
Final Fantasy IX
Pokemon Red
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3
Star Fox 64

6 Nominations
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
Pokemon Blue
Super Mario Galaxy
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars

5 Nominations
Elite Beat Agents
Sonic the Hedgehog 2
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Tales of Symphonia

4 Nominations
Conker's Bad Fur Day
Earthbound
GoldenEye 007
Metal Gear Solid
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
Mother 3
Portal
Resident Evil 4

3 Nominations
BioShock
Cool Spot
Final Fantasy III/VI
Final Fantasy X
Golden Sun
Half-Life 2
Left 4 Dead
Marvel vs. Capcom 2
Mega Man X
Mega Man X2
Okami
Perfect Dark
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Trials and Tribulations
Pokemon Gold
Professor Layton and the Curious Village
Super Mario World
Super Metroid
Tekken 3
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time


Adding Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow together gives 15 nominations. If SB does nothing I don't think we'll be seeing a Pokemon entry.
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trannyscience | Posted 12/1/2008 10:18:06 PM | message detail
FF9's got that many? hm. I'd nom it but it's like, why bother when we could see any number of strong FF games instead.

good to see MM2 has near-universal support this year. the downside is that people are neglecting Sonic hard, but eh.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/1/2008 10:20:40 PM | message detail
The other downside is that Mega Man X is very likely the stronger game.
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trannyscience | Posted 12/1/2008 10:22:03 PM | message detail
I dunno about that. they're probably not far off, but I think MM2's a little stronger. far more classic and timeless and whatnot. VC release last month doesn't hurt.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/1/2008 10:30:26 PM | message detail
FF9 has that many because this is the one board on GameFAQs - and possibly the entire internet - where FF9 is in the running for the most popular FF game.

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/1/2008 10:30:33 PM | message detail
I might have to stand corrected. It looks like MM2 edges out X in lifetime sales when I thought it was the other way around. Still, I think X's presence on the much stronger system and its role as the start of the preferred series would win the day. I think Super Mario is the only longtime series whose strongest game is on the NES.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/1/2008 10:32:36 PM | message detail
I wonder why VIII isn't that popular around here. It's done pretty well in those "favorite Final Fantasy game" polls, especially when considering that it's (I'm guessing) the most likely candidate to get SFF'd by VII.
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trannyscience | Posted 12/1/2008 10:35:26 PM | message detail
I was going to use a Mario 3/World comparison for 2 and X -- X adds improvements much like World did, but people just prefer the classic game. I don't want to fight that fight though.

FF8 is REALLY love-hate. for example, it's the only FF title I actively dislike and I've been playing them since the first one came out. that leads to lots of support in multi-way polls like that. some people really like it, some people really hate it. there's not usually a middle ground there.
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creativename | Posted 12/1/2008 11:05:00 PM | message detail
I hope Final Fantasy VIII gets in, it would be one of the more interesting entrants.
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creativename | Posted 12/1/2008 11:05:42 PM | message detail
Also...why the hell are we having another one of these already
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ZFS | Posted 12/2/2008 3:36:10 AM | message detail
8 Nominations
Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest
Super Mario 64
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask


Good show.

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Gaddswell | Posted 12/2/2008 3:50:16 AM | message detail
12 Nominations
(Nintendo 64) Super Mario 64
(Nintendo 64) The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
(PC) Portal
(PlayStation) Final Fantasy IX

3 Nominations
(Game Boy Advance) Advance Wars
(Game Boy Advance) Golden Sun
(GameCube) Animal Crossing
(GC/PS2/XB) Soul Calibur II
(GEN/SNES) Cool Spot
(Genesis) Gunstar Heroes
(Nintendo 64) Paper Mario
(Nintendo 64) Super Smash Bros.
(Nintendo 64) WWF No Mercy
(PC) Civilization II
(PC) Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne
(PC) World of Warcraft
(PC/360) Left 4 Dead
(PlayStation 2) Kingdom Hearts
(PlayStation 2) Kingdom Hearts II
(PlayStation 2) Shadow of the Colossus
(PlayStation 2) Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 FES
(PlayStation 2) Tales of the Abyss
(PlayStation) Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
(PlayStation) Final Fantasy VIII
(PlayStation) Star Ocean: The Second Story
(PlayStation) Suikoden II
(PlayStation) Xenogears
(PS2/360) Guitar Hero II
(PS3/360) Grand Theft Auto IV
(Redemption) Skee-Ball
(SNES) Donkey Kong Country
(SNES) Super Metroid


Looks like were gonna be seeing FF9 instead!
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ZFS | Posted 12/2/2008 3:51:31 AM | message detail
Ha. That'd be cruel for FFVIII fans - snubbed in favor of FFIX.

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_Harmonica_ | Posted 12/2/2008 3:53:59 AM | message detail
Justice !
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ZFS | Posted 12/2/2008 3:56:21 AM | message detail
on the other hand there's yoshi's island threatening mario world

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Xcarvenger | Posted 12/2/2008 4:50:30 AM | message detail
something I noticed

8 Nominations
(Nintendo 64) Mario Kart 64
(PlayStation 2) Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
(PlayStation 2) Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater

(PS2/WII) Okami
(SNES) Kirby Super Star
(SNES) Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars


there is no way both games would get in tbqh

fight fight fight

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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/2/2008 5:00:27 AM | message detail
You people can keep thinking anything will beat FFVII!

Hey, Bacon said he wants to find the legitimately best game! That means no 4 ways, right? After all, that's not a credible format!

FFVIII will get plenty of nominations. I think someone said it would've been a 3 or 4 seed in the Games Contest if it hadn't been for the cap. Seriously, more nominations than any 32/64 game besides FFVII, OoT, and maybe GoldenEye? FFVIII will be fine.
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Crimson Dragoon | Posted 12/2/2008 8:04:20 AM | message detail
Does anyone here know which feedback I should use to ask Goose about a nomination question? Namely, whether Skee-Ball are going to be considered a joke nomination, or even allowed as it's under Redemption (which is on the drop down list though).
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 12/2/2008 9:53:29 AM | message detail
so any ideas on how the banner will look?
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Midget_Fetish | Posted 12/2/2008 9:55:50 AM | message detail
So I think LttP has a better chance of beating FFVII then OoT does.

Am I that crazy?
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Master Moltar | Posted 12/2/2008 9:57:03 AM | message detail
yes
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/2/2008 9:58:01 AM | message detail
Whats the url of the nomination tally?
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Midget_Fetish | Posted 12/2/2008 9:58:43 AM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=46900890
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I was just too slow to keep up with FastFalcon in the guru contest.
H__RR____H | Posted 12/2/2008 10:03:43 AM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=46914252

Go there and name a match you would like to see this contest.
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BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now.
www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285
Team Rocket Elite | Posted 12/2/2008 10:11:37 AM | message detail
Super Mario All-Stars / Super Mario World
Mega Man Anniversary Collection
The Orange Box

Think he'll let game collections in? I'm not sure if Mega Man Anniversary Collection or The Orange Box would do as well as the games in it, but Super Mario All-Stars / Super Mario World should be as strong ot stronger than Super Mario World since it at least has Super Mario World in the title.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/2/2008 10:12:11 AM | message detail

From: Team Rocket Elite | #476
Super Mario All-Stars / Super Mario World
Mega Man Anniversary Collection
The Orange Box

Think he'll let game collections in? I'm not sure if Mega Man Anniversary Collection or The Orange Box would do as well as the games in it, but Super Mario All-Stars / Super Mario World should be as strong ot stronger than Super Mario World since it at least has Super Mario World in the title.



No way. All 3 of those games already will have other games in the contest, making it ineligible in my book.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/2/2008 10:12:52 AM | message detail
I mean the compilations will have games already in the compliation in the contest, so it would be like letting teh same game in twice.
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H__RR____H | Posted 12/2/2008 10:35:51 AM | message detail
Yeah, no compilations necessary, and I doubt they would be accepted.


So...let's play Rank The Games -- here comes eight of them that we didn't see in 2004:

Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
Final Fantasy 8
Grand Theft Auto 4
Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Metal Gear Solid 4
Resident Evil 4
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Super Mario Galaxy
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www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285
The Mana Sword | Posted 12/2/2008 10:37:02 AM | message detail
Brawl > Twilight Princess > Galaxy > RE4 > MGS4 > FF8 > GTA4 > CoD4
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/2/2008 10:38:50 AM | message detail
(Replacing Call of Duty 4 with World of Warcraft since Call of Duty 4 might not even get in cuz its the "Old thing" now)

1. Super Mario Galaxy
2. Resident Evil 4
3. Final Fantasy 8
4. Super Smash Bros Brawl
5. Metal Gear Solid 4
6. World of Warcraft
7. Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
8. Grand Theft Auto 4
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/2/2008 10:40:48 AM | message detail
Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Resident Evil 4
Final Fantasy 8
Super Mario Galaxy
Metal Gear Solid 4
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
Grand Theft Auto 4

This is despite not knowing much about FFVIII. Speaking of which, what makes the game so love/hate? I'm assuming that the battle and experience systems must be pretty unique.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/2/2008 10:41:39 AM | message detail
This is despite not knowing much about FFVIII. Speaking of which, what makes the game so love/hate? I'm assuming that the battle and experience systems must be pretty unique.

It focuses on love story, its got a weird junction system that punishes you by making your stats go down permanently if you cast magic, and it punishes you for leveling cuz all enemies level alongside you.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/2/2008 10:41:43 AM | message detail
Oh man. I need to nominate World of Warcraft just so it can get in and be a bracket buster.

Our luck Ballin will pair it up with Starcraft or something.
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H__RR____H | Posted 12/2/2008 10:47:52 AM | message detail
Speaking of being paired with Starcraft, one match I think would be fun to see:

Earthbound
Diablo 2
Starcraft
World of Warcraft


I think the SFF, level of debate, level of complaints, level of rallying, seeing how big/small EB's fanbase is, and eliminating at least one of the major rallying forces would be a lot of fun to watch.
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www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285
charmander6000 | Posted 12/2/2008 10:48:06 AM | message detail
1. Super Mario Galaxy
2. Final Fantasy 8
3. Metal Gear Solid 4
4. Super Smash Bros. Brawl
5. Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
6. Resident Evil 4
7. Grand Theft Auto 4
8. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare

The top 3 could be in any order really.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 12/2/2008 10:48:07 AM | message detail
Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Final Fantasy 8
Super Mario Galaxy
Resident Evil 4
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
Metal Gear Solid 4
Grand Theft Auto 4

i think that's it..
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/2/2008 10:49:23 AM | message detail
Alot of you have TP really high... I thought it wasn't received that well compared to other Zelda games? Like if Starcraft could beat Wind Waker, couldn't WoW beat Twilight Princess?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/2/2008 10:50:51 AM | message detail
Stats don't go down permanently for using magic in FFVIII. You can raise them back up by getting a stock of the spells.

But yeah, the battle system is a large part of why FFVIII is so love/hate. They did away with a lot of the traditional elements of the series, which didn't go over well with some.
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ZFS | Posted 12/2/2008 10:51:04 AM | message detail
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Twilight Princess
Super Mario Galaxy
Resident Evil 4
Final Fantasy VIII
Metal Gear Solid 4
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
Grand Theft Auto IV

Feel confident in those rankings.

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ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/2/2008 10:51:09 AM | message detail
I might take WoW over Twilight Princess... it's very tough to gauge that match(oh god please set this up for like a 3rd round match up or something).

Problem there is that we'd know hwo was going to win based on previous performances....

WoW vs. TP could be an AWESOME first round match.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/2/2008 10:51:17 AM | message detail
Right now I'd take TP > WW, but I would also take 2k4 WW > TP by a lot more.
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The Mana Sword | Posted 12/2/2008 10:51:50 AM | message detail
looks like HM is the only sane person in here

...uh oh
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/2/2008 10:51:58 AM | message detail

But yeah, the battle system is a large part of why FFVIII is so love/hate. They did away with a lot of the traditional elements of the series, which didn't go over well with some.


They also did away with some other elements that Final Fantasy fans tend to like... like you know, a well thought out story.... good characters... stuff like that. =P
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/2/2008 10:53:22 AM | message detail
StarCraft beating the Wind Waker is a completely different thing from World of Warcraft beating Twilight Princess. I just couldn't see the latter happening, rallying/stuffing power or not.
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ZFS | Posted 12/2/2008 10:54:18 AM | message detail
Alot of you have TP really high... I thought it wasn't received that well compared to other Zelda games? Like if Starcraft could beat Wind Waker, couldn't WoW beat Twilight Princess?

Compared to its hype Twilight Princess wasn't as well received, but it'll still be one of the top games in the contest. It's not too different from Brawl - hype through the roof, disappointment when that hype isn't met. TP's right behind OoT and ALttP as far as Zelda goes, and is probably a top 10 game.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 12/2/2008 10:54:26 AM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #495
StarCraft beating the Wind Waker is a completely different thing from World of Warcraft beating Twilight Princess. I just couldn't see the latter happening, rallying/stuffing power or not.



Why not? I mean I'd have to say TP would be the favorite, but the rallying power of Blizzard around a game or namesake is quite astounding.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/2/2008 10:54:38 AM | message detail
It would be a hell of an upset to take though. Like I could really see that happening...

but I wouldn't take it unless the match were on a Tuesday, and it was a full moon that day.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/2/2008 10:54:50 AM | message detail
Alot of you have TP really high... I thought it wasn't received that well compared to other Zelda games? Like if Starcraft could beat Wind Waker, couldn't WoW beat Twilight Princess?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2995

Twilight Princess was the top Nintendo option in that poll despite Mario Galaxy riding a huge wave of holiday popularity and critical/fan acclaim and despite being hampered by Wind Waker. If you remove those Nintendo distractions (Galaxy, Wind Waker, Prime), then TP wins that poll very easily.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/2/2008 10:54:56 AM | message detail
like you know, a well thought out story.... good characters... stuff like that. =P

Nah, they kept that stuff intact and then some! Well, except for the villain part, but that's negligible. But if you like Squall or Laguna, chances are good you'll like the game. Not to say it's a guarantee, but the story focuses so much on those two.
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