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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 643

Karma Hunter | Posted 11/23/2008 1:47:12 PM | message detail
Uh... forgive me, but how is this a huge improvement for the Wii? The next latest poll, if I'm looking at it right, is:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3136

And the Wii ended up with 60.83% in that. Right now, the Wii is at 61.6% - with some day vote to go, but nothing that would warrant that kind of commentary. If anything, this validates the opposite theory - plateauing at best, stagnation at worst. Is there any explanation for how differently the two 'ownership' choices are splitting?
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hailEC | Posted 11/23/2008 1:53:17 PM | message detail
Wii sucks whooo
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/23/2008 1:53:48 PM | message detail
I think the fact that a whole lot more people flat out don't want one is more telling.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/23/2008 1:55:41 PM | message detail
Deboost confirmed people

Alright let's get the Samus > Mario train rolling again
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meche313 | Posted 11/23/2008 1:58:07 PM | message detail
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ZFS | Posted 11/23/2008 2:39:40 PM | message detail
And the Wii ended up with 60.83% in that. Right now, the Wii is at 61.6% - with some day vote to go, but nothing that would warrant that kind of commentary.

It actually ended up at 59.83% there instead of 60 !

But it makes sense that we wouldn't see much of a boost for Wii ownership since the last time the poll was taken. There's only been two notable Wii games released since then - Wii Music and Animal Crossing, neither of which is likely to move any consoles on a site like GameFAQs. It go back to getting a solid boost in these polls once we get some game announcements for 2009.



oh and something tells me the 360 will do well tomorrow

1) 360
2) 360
3) PC
4) 360
5) 360
6) 360
7) 360
8) PS3
9) PS3
10) Wii)

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charmander6000 | Posted 11/23/2008 2:50:38 PM | message detail
I don't think the results of this poll is very surprising. For the last two months we saw results that the site shifted away from Brawl and Nintendo to other things.
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 11/23/2008 2:52:05 PM | message detail
augh MicrosoftFAQs confirmed
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Biolizard28 | Posted 11/23/2008 2:59:03 PM | message detail
From: Karma Hunter
Deboost confirmed people

It's not a deboost. It's stagnation.

Nintendo isn't going down in power, but everyone else is going up.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/23/2008 4:46:20 PM | message detail
I think the confusion between my comparison of the Wii's boost to KH's is the poll we used. He used a specific "Got Wii?" poll from 6/2/08 whereas I used a "Which of the three current consoles do you now own?" poll from 7/29/08.

6/2/08: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3136
7/29/08: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3193

The more recent one had the Wii-ownership dip, apparently...but whatever the case, today should be the Wii's best showing to date.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 11/23/2008 6:02:11 PM | message detail
I was arguing against the theory of a deboost, if that post was directed at me.

If Nintendo was being antivoted, it would've been evident a long time ago.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 11/23/2008 6:12:37 PM | message detail
Also, you people need to get on writing up some... write-ups for the matches on the wiki!
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/23/2008 6:35:17 PM | message detail
Well classes end for me on Friday, though till then I'll be working my ass off to finish everything. Other than studying for finals during December I'll have a lot of time on my hands.
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Congratulations to FastFalcon for winning the guru contest, you are the best among the best.
red sox 777 | Posted 11/23/2008 7:55:15 PM | message detail
Staying constant while everything else boosts is more or less the same thing as deboosting. There's really no way to extrapolate across years to determine say, what percentage Link now gets on Link 2003, anyway. You have to rely on how dominant a character is within a particular contest.
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Congratulations to Crono for making his first true finals match, your 5 time contest champion, Link, and the Guru Champion FastFalcon
red sox 777 | Posted 11/23/2008 8:18:01 PM | message detail
In other news, the Melee vs. Brawl poll appears to be running dry on votes now, and the score is:

Brawl 68, Melee 51. Brawl wins with 57.14% of the votes. Good show for Melee; it had never broken 28% before.
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Congratulations to Crono for making his first true finals match, your 5 time contest champion, Link, and the Guru Champion FastFalcon
Ngamer64 | Posted 11/23/2008 8:54:19 PM | message detail
Blizzard, KH has a pretty excellent set of PCAs in the works over at

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=46741933

That you might enjoy reading.

Also I'm going to be adding my own takes to the wiki match pages shortly.

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Ngamer64 | Posted 11/23/2008 11:12:05 PM | message detail
Through two Got Console polls, which means its time for an updated edition of

Trend Watch!

In the five months from June 2008 to these current November '08 polls...

* the PS3 has gained 7.61% market share
(from 26.29% to 33.90%)

* the Wii has gained 2.05% market share
(from 59.82% to 61.87%)

...if the current number holds...
* the 360 has gained 3.45% market share
(from 50.22% to 53.67%)

Alright, well the PS3 trailed the other options by such a huge margin that it was obviously going to have a much easier time increasing its share. Even so, that's a heck of an impressive jump! I don't know if we've ever seen such a large increase over so short a span of time, aside of course from initial sales rushes. The bad news is that the console would need another huge jump like that, PLUS another increase half as large just to catch up to the original Xbox... which as we all knew never exactly lit this site on fire.

The Wii improvement isn't impressive, but I hesitate to call it disappointing either... those are 5 months without a Zelda/Mario/Metroid/SSB release or price drop, and there's nothing new on the Wii right now that would be driving Nintendo owners to the FAQs, so in light of that a 2% bump isn't too bad.

The 360's rise, well, I guess we need to give that more time. Maybe it will have a great ASV and shoot up to near the PS3's? I hope so, because if it can only manage 3-4 as it's currently doing I would have to call this a bit of a disappointment. The console has had a ton of big releases, is dominating the FAQs; you'd think it would be the perfect recipe for a monster showing. Guess the jury is still out though.

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Ngamer64 | Posted 11/24/2008 12:18:35 AM | message detail
And now for the moment you've all (aka one of you) been waiting for!

Ngamer's Awesome Comments on yo's Awesome(?) Bracket


1 The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time > 16 Silent Hill 2
Good fodder in a great position for it.

8 Portal > 9 Bioshock
Oh wow, really love this well loved but cult/niche FPS setup. Bio's PS3 port should help it, but I've vowed to never bet against Blizzard or Valve in a tight match.

5 Half-Life 2 > 12 Kingdom Hearts II
Sora looked so good this year... then again, so did Gordon and the Cube! I think I'd take the risk and back HL2 here, for the same reason I mentioned above.

13 Starcraft > 4 Pokemon Red/Blue
Ahhhhh! What the heck, is this whole bracket nothing but mind-blowing matches? I expect Pokemon to be vastly improved from '04 while SC will have lost a step or two... even so, I can't see a way for R/B/Y to survive both the anti-voting AND the late surge SC is sure to pull.

6 Goldeneye 007 > 11 Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
I was going to smack you upside the head for not making this the original MGS, but now I see that's coming up. GE might trail here overnight, but I see it sliding by with a massive day vote.

3 Resident Evil 4 > 14 Kirby Super Star
Hmm, wasn't there anything less Nintendo for Kirby to try on? Some might consider this a sexy upset due to Kirby this year, but nay, RE4's just on a whole different tier.

10 Pac-Man > 7 Guitar Hero
Yessss, the perfect setup! GH probably has a devastating day vote, but I think Pac holds it off due to the Rock Band split and other people anti-voting anything music as "not real games".

2 Metal Gear Solid > 15 Sonic Adventure 2
Shame that Sonic couldn't earn a better seed, but I imagine the whole bracket is stacked.

1 Chrono Trigger > 16 Xenogears
Gah, surely a non-RPG opponent could be found to squash Xeno without needing genre SFF?

9 Devil May Cry > 8 God of War
Yikes, this is exactly the drama a 8/9 should deliver. Guess I'll take DMC even though people seemed underwhelmed with 4... but if GoW3 will be on the near horizon by the time this comes around, I'm flopping in a second.

5 Super Mario 64 > 12 The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening
I'm a firm proponent of OoT/TP/LttP/MM only, and matchups like THIS certainly aren't going to change my mind!

4 Final Fantasy VIII > 13 The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
Ohhh, really slick FF7/OoT preview. I'd give 8 a slight advantage, but if everyone and his mother was picking it I'd switch to MM for the epic upset potential.

11 Super Mario World > 6 Final Fantasy Tactics
FFT hanging in there with MGS seems like the kind of thing that could only happen with 2004's pathetic vote totals... even with the help of the GBA/DS I can't see it challenging games on that tier anymore.

3 The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past > 14 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
Fun fodder at least.

7 Halo 2 > 10 Mega Man 2
Holy smokes, talk about being in for the most brutal overnight vs day vote swing ever! I'm not much of a Halo believer, but even so I can't see anything NES not named Mario or Zelda hanging with the series' huge modern appeal.

2 Super Smash Bros. Melee > 15 Earthbound
EB isn't REALLY worth seeing, but I agree with including it because yeah, those 300 diehard fans will pretty much assure it a position once again.
Ngamer64 | Posted 11/24/2008 12:19:58 AM | message detail
1 Super Mario Bros. 3 > 16 The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
Good fodder, well placed

9 Mega Man X > 8 Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Oh gosh... even though MM doesn't have the mass appeal it once did, that should only be a problem against casual favorites like Halo/GE/RE4. I bet it can still hold its own against something more culty like SotN.

12 Super Metroid > 5 Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
Heavens me, I have no idea. MGS4 would be an easy choice in a 4-way because those who played though REALLY loved it, but... so many haven't played it, and others are sure to anti-vote it for being PS3 and so FMV-heavy.

4 Kingdom Hearts > 13 Street Fighter II
SF2 LOST? Unless SF4's console release was around the time of this match, I think so. This should be a fantastic battle though, and another of those huge night/day swings.

6 The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess > 11 Pokemon Gold/Silver
Darn it yo, we've been over this! R/B/Y overshaows G/S/C so thoroughly that if any other Pokemon is needed, make it Diamond/Pearl so we can at least compare orignal gen vs modern gen.

3 Super Smash Bros. Brawl > 14 Grand Theft Auto IV
Ha! Can't imagine Brawl having any trouble, but I love this setup as a casual trap.

10 Star Fox 64 > 7 Grand Theft Auto III
Zero confidence here... Think I'd take SA if it were here instead; sure GTA3 has better nostalgia, but that's an area SF64 excels in. That plus its great VC sales are enough to get the nod from me.

2 Final Fantasy X > 15 Soul Calibur II
If the match pic is FFX Tidus vs SCII Link, this could be a real barn-burner! ...for the first 60 minutes or so.


1 Final Fantasy VII > 16 Fire Emblem
Good fodder, good placement

8 Sonic the Hedgehog 2 > 9 Donkey Kong Country
Much as I love DKC1/2, I've come to accept that they're not going to be great site-wide, especially now that Diddy has tripped and fallen on his face. Still want to see them in a bracket!

5 Super Mario Galaxy > 12 Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
Whoa, that was unexpected, but I love it. RPG gets to rally behind the Square and old school Nintendo banners, which ought to do it a world of good, but Galaxy's GotY showing gives me decent confidence here.

4 Metroid Prime > 13 Mario Kart 64
Hoooray, went with the right Kart this time! This is a super-cool setup, as you've got the best of casual/multiplayer/N64-era party nostalgia going up against a very different segment of the Nintendo base. I'd like to back MK64, but that Kart defeat against Mega Man keeps me from pulling the trigger.

11 Diablo II > 6 Half-Life
Haha, first get me scared of Valve and Blizzard, then throw them up against one another! If it turns into a flat out rally war there's no doubt I back Blizz... even though HL1 is probably strong purely on this site, I think outside support + Diablo III hype would be enough to pull DII through.

3 Final Fantasy III/VI > 14 Resident Evil 2
Eh, even with the RE overperformances this past season, I still don't see any real need to have anything but RE4 represented.

10 Tetris > 7 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
Ahhh! I really, really love these deep old school vs hyper new school battles. CoD4 strikes me as kind of like MGS4- everyone who's played it loves it, but has enough of the site tried it out? I think the massive Tetris playrate is enough to slip it through here, especially since I bet it can L-Block its way to a comeback if that proves necessary in the final hour.

15 World of Warcraft > 2 Halo: Combat Evolved
Gracious sakes! Sure WoW will be anti-voted to death, but anti-voting all things Halo is practically GameFAQs' proudest tradition! I think that will especially be the case because of so many people wanting to duplicate that Halo/SC atmosphere. Don't have confidence here, but there's no way WoW loses a close match, so I'll go with that.
Lopen | Posted 11/24/2008 12:25:48 AM | message detail
BOLD PREDICTION: M$ day vote brings it up to 55%. 360 is comin fa ya, Wii!
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Ngamer64 | Posted 11/24/2008 12:55:39 AM | message detail
Round Two

1 The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time > 8 Portal
Portal's one of not many games that would at least hold up decently on Ocarina/FF7 IMO.

13 StarCraft > 5 Half-Life 2
Ehh, HL2 should put up a better fight than KH did in this position thanks to the success of the Orange Box, but as we've been over I'm never betting against Blizzard when its close enough to allow rallying.

6 Goldeneye 007 > 3 Resident Evil 4
Really epic R2 setup, and although I could see why many would go with RE, I still say GE's massive nostalgia pulls it through.

2 Metal Gear Solid > 10 Pac-Man
This isn't too fair; GE has to fight tooth and nail to create the matchup while MGS gets a cakewalk! Oh well- any sacrifice is worth it, as long as we get to witness that long destined duel.


1 Chrono Trigger > 9 Devil May Cry
Eh, GoW probably holds up better here, but I'd have to imagine it's a horse a piece.

5 Super Mario 64 > 4 Final Fantasy VIII
FF8 could very well be "naturally" stronger, if that makes any sense, but I get the feeling this would be a great position for Mario. Capitalizes on upset MM voters plus all of the anti-voting FF8 is sure to attract in any case- I think M64 rises to the challenge here, though I'll admit that's just a hunch.

3 The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past > 11 Super Mario World
Well... at least it won't be as bad as Ocarina/Mario 63 turned out!

2 Super Smash Bros. Melee > 7 Halo 2
Could see this taking some casuals by surprise at least.


1 Super Mario Bros. 3 > 9 Mega Man X
Erm... we've always wanted to see Mario v Mega Man in a 1v1, right? Not since 2005, you say? Well, shoot!

12 Super Metroid > 4 Kingdom Hearts
With Axel and Ansem and Riku continuing to collapse or flop, I'm starting to think most of Sora's appeal comes from his generic anime-boy appearance he's been pulling down pretty often post-KH2. Maybe I'm crazy, but I take SM in this one with decent confidence.

6 The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess > 3 Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Just... stunning. Polls like this are the exact reason we need this Contest. Brawl was probably SLIGHTLY more hyped on this site pre-release, and probably did a slightly better job of matching that hype post-release. Even so, I just can't bet against Zelda in a Nintendo SFF situation. If Brawl slams MGS4 in the final GotY poll this January, though, I'd have to flip flop on this.

2 Final Fantasy X > Star Fox 64
Won't be close, but at least SF64's the perfect opponent in terms of overperformance potential.


1 Final Fantasy VII > 8 Sonic the Hedgehog 2
Much better than sending Sonic to be crunched by Zelda or Mario.

5 Super Mario Galaxy > 4 Metroid Prime
Prime is loved, it's the crown jewel of the GC in many people's eyes, but even so I just can't bet on Metroid in a Mario vs Samus situation.

3 Final Fantasy III/VI > 11 Diablo II
This is sooo solid. D2's got no right hanging around with one of the Super Seven, but... is FF6 even part of that group anymore? Seems like a perfect candidate to have lost a step in the past 4 years. I could imagine this looking like a blowout early before DII rips off an absolutely nasty day vote to give us a scare.

15 World of Warcraft > 10 Tetris
This would be so funny to see- I could see Tetris turning full on L-Blockish against the hated WoW. But even with the whole internet rallying against it, can you really pick against World of WarCraft in a tight match? Because I can't!

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Gaddswell | Posted 11/24/2008 12:58:10 AM | message detail
WoW / Halo as the final match of round 1 is just asking for something weird to go down!

Yes, I just got one this year 11.47% 2487
Yes, I've had mine since before this year 41.63% 9026
Not yet, but I think I'll get one for Christmas 6.06% 1315
No, it's too expensive for me 8.11% 1759
No, I don't want one right now 32.72% 7095
TOTAL VOTES 21682

Not bad for the 360! Still at 53.1% at night. Probably reaches 55% once the day is up.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/24/2008 1:11:08 AM | message detail
1 The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time > 16 Silent Hill 2

Most likely, the seeding system used in the Games Contest will be 1-8, not 1-16.


Yes, I just got one this year 11.47% 2487
Yes, I've had mine since before this year 41.63% 9026
Not yet, but I think I'll get one for Christmas 6.06% 1315
No, it's too expensive for me 8.11% 1759
No, I don't want one right now 32.72% 7095
TOTAL VOTES 21682

Not bad for the 360! Still at 53.1% at night. Probably reaches 55% once the day is up.


For fun, I've been predicting the results of the regular polls and seeing how well they score overall (50 points is the max). These are my scores so far:

What did you think of this year's Character Battle?: 43.27
Got PS3?: 46.59
Got Wii?: 38.09 (I sucked on this one)

My prediction for today is a lot better than for yesterday's poll.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/24/2008 1:14:17 AM | message detail
The 360's rise, well, I guess we need to give that more time. Maybe it will have a great ASV and shoot up to near the PS3's? I hope so, because if it can only manage 3-4 as it's currently doing I would have to call this a bit of a disappointment. The console has had a ton of big releases, is dominating the FAQs; you'd think it would be the perfect recipe for a monster showing. Guess the jury is still out though.

Man, if we had poll updates for regular polls, we could see this in action. The only way to track this would be to manually track the results.
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Ngamer64 | Posted 11/24/2008 1:28:20 AM | message detail
R3 and following

1 The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time > 13 StarCraft
No amount of Wind Waker rally magic can save SC here!

6 Goldeneye 007 > 2 Metal Gear Solid
I've been riding this upset train for five years- no reason to get off now. I'll admit it would take a huge day vote comeback to pull this off. But GE can do it!

1 Chrono Trigger > 5 Super Mario 64
Shouldn't be much in doubt, but I see Mario 64 doing very well, coming closer to matching Mario 3's 2004 showing than Super Mario World's, which should signal CT's impending doom pretty clearly.

3 The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past > 2 Super Smash Bros. Melee
Gaaaah. I have as much respect for Melee as anyone, I think it will have maintained its '04 strength better than LttP... but even so I can't bet against top tier Zelda.

1 Super Mario Bros. 3 > 12 Super Metroid
Much as I'd like to avoid Mario/Samus wherever possible, Super Met would have to put on a heck of a show just to get into this position, so I can't fault the bracket.

2 Final Fantasy X > 6 The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Ack! I thought TP's performance in Game of the Decade was legitimately more impressive, if you take into account all the crazy Nintendo and even inter-Zelda LFF it had to deal with. Even so I'm getting some very positive vibes from FFX recently... if this was one of those where EVERYONE started going with it though, I'd definitely flop over to support the upset.

1 Final Fantasy VII > 5 Super Mario Galaxy
Alright, so we won't be seeing another Mario > Cloud miracle, but even so I'd expect Galaxy to go out looking pretty respectable.

3 Final Fantasy III/VI > 15 World of Warcraft
Whoa! If D2 can at least put something of a scare in FF6, surely WoW would be able to go all the way? That makes sense, but... nay, can't keep picking Warcraft wins on potential alone. The madness ends here!
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1 The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time > 6 Goldeneye 007
Not an '04 re-match that would be worth seeing, but like with Super Met, GE would have to run a pretty insane gauntlet to get into this position, so I'm fine with the placement.

3 The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past > 1 Chrono Trigger
SB's incredible procrastination has at least produced one positive result: there's finally a case to be made for CT in this rematch post-CTDS! But... afraid I'm still not sold on it being MUCH of a case. Unless CT does absolutely incredible sales, I'm taking LttP with a good amount of confidence.

1 Super Mario Bros. 3 > 2 Final Fantasy X
Really sweet setup, no matter whether its FFX or TP or Brawl that ends up getting here. Sure Mario 3 is the epitome of childhood nostalgia, but it's going to be the year 2009- you've got to imagine a big chunk of that voter base never picked up a controller until well after the 8 bit era. Sticking with Mario, but a good case could be made for any of its potential adversaries.

1 Final Fantasy VII > 3 Final Fantasy III/VI
Gosh will this be ugly! Oh well; FF6 wouldn't have a chance against anything else either, so no big waste.
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1 The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time > 3 The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
Even though I think LttP holds up better than most would expect, I'm not going to pretend this isn't a dud of a matchup. But meh, LttP has to knock off a bunch of great games just to make this possible, plus I don't think Ocarina/Mario 3 would be that much more interesting, so this is fine.

1 Final Fantasy VII > 1 Super Mario Bros. 3
Again, I think Mario brings his A game against top Square rivals, so I'd expect this to be another decentish showing for him. Probably not as good as Final Fantasy/Mario in '06, but still.
Ngamer64 | Posted 11/24/2008 1:29:12 AM | message detail
1 The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time > 1 Final Fantasy VII
People are high on FF7 these days, but I maintain that this would still make for a super intense Championship and that the result would be a coinflip. I'm fine with it being considered a Zelda/FF-style upset for the moment, though.


OVERALL: Wow, what a fantastic bracket! Just solid all the way through, barely anything I'd want to change. I've no choice but to award this effort with a grade of...



*drum roll*




A. Congrats, yo!


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Ngamer64 | Posted 11/24/2008 1:46:40 AM | message detail
Are you the kind of person who wishes they could look over every Game Bracket that's been proposed in this topic since '06, along with my complete commentary? If you answered "yes", then... you have serious problems.

But uh, here's a link you could take.

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/User:Ngamer#Predictions

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Biolizard28 | Posted 11/24/2008 3:37:45 AM | message detail
Did you just call Fire Emblem fodder?

Pig.
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transience | Posted 11/24/2008 3:52:14 AM | message detail
who remembers this post-2000 bracket?


trannyscience | Posted 4/9/2007 11:21:54 PM | message detail | #010
~1~

1 - Zelda: Twilight Princess
16 - Madden NFL 2007

8 - Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
9 - Resistance: Fall of Man

5 - God of War
12 - Tales of Symphonia

4 - Devil May Cry
13 - Shadow of the Colossus

6 - Super Mario Sunshine
11 - Final Fantasy X-2

3 - Metal Gear Solid 2
14 - Ninja Gaiden

7 - Pokemon Emerald
10 - Grand Theft Auto 3

2 - Halo: Combat Evolved
15 - Zelda: Minish Cap

~2~

1 - Super Smash Brothers Melee
16 - Gran Turismo 3

8 - Devil May Cry 3
9 - Soul Calibur 2

5 - Sonic Adventure 2: Battle
12 - Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin

4 - Gears of War
13 - Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door

6 - Final Fantasy 12
11 - Kirby: Canvas Curse

3 - Halo 2
14 - Disgaea: Hour of Darkness

7 - Metroid Prime 2: Echoes
10 - Chrono Cross

2 - Kingdom Hearts
15 - Warioware Inc: Mega Microgames

~3~

1 - Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
16 - Star Ocean 3

8 - Zelda: Majora's Mask
9 - Fable

5 - Final Fantasy 9
12 - Elder Scrolls: Oblivion

4 - God of War 2
13 - Splinter Cell

6 - Kingdom Hearts 2
11 - Mario Kart DS

3 - Metal Gear Solid 3
14 - Animal Crossing

7 - Paper Mario
10 - Fire Emblem

2 - Resident Evil 4
15 - Dragon Quest VIII

~4~

1 - Final Fantasy 10
16 - Lumines

8 - Guitar Hero 2
9 - Perfect Dark

5 -Half-Life 2
12 - Metroid Fusion

4 - Zelda: Wind Waker
13 - Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3

6 - New Super Mario Bros.
11 - Star Wars: KOTOR

3 - GTA: Vice City
14 - F-Zero GX

7 - Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow
10 - World of Warcraft

2 - Metroid Prime
15 - Xenosaga Episode I


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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/24/2008 4:39:41 AM | message detail
We need to get Big Rigs into the Games Contest as a joke entry.
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greatone10 | Posted 11/24/2008 5:08:09 AM | message detail
If a 4 way contest were to occur (hopefully we at least do at least one traditional bracket first), Big Rigs could end up with a decent run.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/24/2008 5:42:23 AM | message detail
OoT isn't beating FFVII. I'll just go ahead and say that now.
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hailEC | Posted 11/24/2008 8:46:22 AM | message detail
I've always had the feeling that if we were to have another games contest I'd back FF7 for the championship... but for some reason I just have absolutely no confidence in it still holding up today. I think I'd have to go with OoT to take it home.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/24/2008 8:56:41 AM | message detail
No confidence? The game itself hasn't given us any reason to doubt it. It dominated the late 2005 Top 100 list, and it just proved that practically any character from its cast can win a couple matches. The votals may be drastically different now (anywhere from 1.5-2x higher for a match), but that doesn't necessarily hurt FFVII more or less than it would any other game. I'll grant you that a year ago, I may have been tempted to take OoT for the upset, but with Nintendo having released jack in the last six months (and with very little on the horizon), I'm back in FFVII's corner. The only thing that would get me to waver at this point is an absolutely monstrous Nintendo E3, and the contest will hopefully get started before that.
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Megaman703 | Posted 11/24/2008 9:11:17 AM | message detail
Even a year ago I would still take FFVII. There hasn't really been anything to suggest that it would lose.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/24/2008 9:13:42 AM | message detail

From: -LusterSoldier- | #380
We need to get Big Rigs into the Games Contest as a joke entry.



WE need Sticky Balls

http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/psp/home/920837.html
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The Mana Sword | Posted 11/24/2008 9:14:32 AM | message detail
MGS beats FF7 and leads OoT for 6 and a half hours book it.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/24/2008 9:35:48 AM | message detail
Objectively, I think FFVII would beat OOT as badly as it did in 2004, but Snake beating Cloud twice does scare me......FFVII will be by far the favorite in the Games Contest, so it's going to get anti-voted even worse than usual, while OOT probably gets away without much in the way of anti-votes. It shouldn't matter enough in a 1v1 to change anything, but in a 4-way, watch out. I could actually see Starcraft winning a FFVII/OOT/CT/SC final.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/24/2008 9:41:48 AM | message detail
I'll say this: I'll take LoZ:OoT to win it all one-on-one and FF7 in a four-way.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/24/2008 9:46:24 AM | message detail
Oh yeah, and going along with that statement....if it's a 4-way I think I'm taking Starcraft to win it all.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/24/2008 9:50:38 AM | message detail
Let's not even think of such things!

Also, I think games would probably incur much less year-to-year strength variance than characters do, so there's another point in FFVII's favor. I wouldn't say anything's impossible for a game with Ocarina's pedigree, but it has one heck of an uphill battle.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/24/2008 11:12:49 AM | message detail
I'd go with FFVII > OoT now, but if the contest was during the beginning of this year my prediction would be reversed. Still in five to six months my view can easily flip again.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/24/2008 11:54:08 AM | message detail
Wow > Starcraft in the final of a 4way

bank it
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FFDragon | Posted 11/24/2008 11:57:08 AM | message detail
If we're getting in any joke entry, I throw my vote in for this:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/mobile/home/923229.html
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/24/2008 1:17:15 PM | message detail
I say we get something like minesweeper in.
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Congratulations to FastFalcon for winning the guru contest, you are the best among the best.
Ngamer64 | Posted 11/24/2008 3:18:31 PM | message detail
Yeah, I made a case for Minesweeper during the last Rally Tourney, just because it would be interesting to see how a game with a playrate even BETTER than Tetris could perform. But after looking over yo's picks, eh, there isn't room for it. I'll save that nom for 2011 when we have a bracket of 128.

Speaking of which, stop talking about 4-ways for '09! I give you my promise that we'll be seeing a pure 1v1 bracket for this Game Contest- that's an Ngamer Guarantee©.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/24/2008 3:20:18 PM | message detail
4-ways confirmed abandon GameFAQs
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/24/2008 3:23:01 PM | message detail
Yeah, I don't want a four-way for games next year...that said, I was thinking about making a mock-bracket in that format soon. There is a good chance we will see it, sad as it may be (which I don't think would be nearly so sad if we could see a one-on-one bracket first!).

Meh, I have a lot of school stuff to do anyway!
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...I don't want to talk about it.
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/24/2008 3:31:24 PM | message detail
which I don't think would be nearly so sad if we could see a one-on-one bracket first!

Yeah, I wouldn't mind an eventual 4way games contest nearly as much if Bacon would just give us the 1v1 variety first. It's so long overdue, and the possibilities are endless (as many mock brackets have shown). If we got a 4way games bracket four months from now, it would undoubtedly be the biggest "augh" in contest history.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/24/2008 3:39:56 PM | message detail
I give you my promise that we'll be seeing a pure 1v1 bracket for this Game Contest

You should make a petition on this board early next year to show SB that we want 1v1 for the Games Contest.
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