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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 643

PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/20/2008 9:47:02 PM | message detail
I'm glad to see that the negative options only have 30% of the vote. If that keeps up and the fifth option wins, I'll be more confident about Bacon staying true to his hint and giving us a Games Contest early next year.
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Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ
Watch and you'll see... FastFalcon own me... in the Guru Contest!
greatone10 | Posted 11/20/2008 9:47:50 PM | message detail
I just hope Bacon isn't serious about using My Games to decide the participants.
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Donkey Kong Country 2 for next Games contest.
I hereby bow to FastFalcon who FastFalcon Punched my bracket.
tee316 | Posted 11/20/2008 9:48:01 PM | message detail
I just called it a joke, as the joke characters would fall off huge after the power hour and it was being said the BGE was going to do that.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/20/2008 10:03:31 PM | message detail
BGE's lead for the first 12 updates of the Power Hour: 97, 91, 136, 199, 242, 307, 342, 406, 435, 499, 503, 511

Okay, Power Hour is over. Time for BGE to fall off.

Time | Classic | Young | Toon | CD-I
EBV | 48.83% | 6.15% | 13.55% | 31.46% | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 55.38% | 5.64% | 13.18% | 25.80% | (0:00-1:00)
FNV | 59.55% | 5.78% | 14.32% | 20.35% | (1:00-6:00)
BSV | 64.30% | 6.07% | 14.86% | 14.77% | (6:00-9:00)
DSV | 64.95% | 6.40% | 14.17% | 14.48% | (9:00-14:30)
ASV | 63.12% | 6.54% | 15.01% | 15.33% | (14:30-22:00)
SNV | 64.81% | 6.26% | 14.43% | 14.50% | (22:00-24:00)

Classic Link did horrible in the EBV and PHV while CD-I Link did well here. Young Link isn't really going up much after the PHV ends while Toon Link improves himself in the FNV. CD-I Link shows the trends of a joke character and of course drops greatly after the PHV ends. Toon Link barely outperformed CD-I Link in the BSV and almost lost the BSV from doing bad in the last hour of that time period. Toon Link does around just as bad in the DSV as in the FNV. Classic Link losing the ASV to everyone else?

By the hours:

Time | Classic | Young | Toon | CD-I
1:00 | 55.38% | 5.64% | 13.18% | 25.80%
2:00 | 56.59% | 5.66% | 13.22% | 24.53%
3:00 | 58.71% | 6.08% | 14.27% | 20.94%
4:00 | 61.44% | 5.86% | 14.95% | 17.75%
5:00 | 62.50% | 5.80% | 14.97% | 16.74%
6:00 | 63.86% | 5.42% | 16.06% | 14.66%
7:00 | 63.28% | 6.59% | 15.40% | 14.74%
8:00 | 64.66% | 5.62% | 15.18% | 14.53%
9:00 | 64.72% | 6.10% | 14.15% | 15.02%
10:00 | 65.34% | 6.19% | 14.49% | 13.98%
11:00 | 65.24% | 6.16% | 13.45% | 15.15%
12:00 | 64.96% | 5.96% | 14.07% | 15.00%
13:00 | 64.95% | 6.91% | 13.91% | 14.23%
14:00 | 65.17% | 6.48% | 14.27% | 14.07%
15:00 | 63.92% | 6.87% | 14.54% | 14.67%
16:00 | 62.64% | 6.56% | 14.84% | 15.96%
17:00 | 61.83% | 6.75% | 15.73% | 15.68%
18:00 | 63.08% | 6.40% | 15.57% | 14.95%
19:00 | 63.11% | 6.50% | 14.56% | 15.83%
20:00 | 64.22% | 6.19% | 14.78% | 14.80%
21:00 | 62.77% | 6.62% | 15.65% | 14.96%
22:00 | 63.94% | 6.67% | 14.45% | 14.94%
23:00 | 64.68% | 6.26% | 14.00% | 15.06%
24:00 | 64.97% | 6.26% | 15.00% | 13.76%
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 11/21/2008 3:28:44 AM | message detail
You know, I fail to see where any fanboy logic was in my earlier posts.

UNless"doesn't agree with my opinion"=fanboy now.

Seriously, I'm a MGS fan. But 4 is honestly the worst Konami game I've ever heard of. Even worse than Simon's Quest.
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Mother 3. That is all.
jonthomson | Posted 11/21/2008 3:35:41 AM | message detail
they should have put ganondorf in that poll yesterday instead of cd-i link for epic sff hilarity.

also, they're re-running my terrible top 10 today, nice
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 11/21/2008 4:36:34 AM | message detail
http://kotaku.com/5095314/waiter-theres-an-altair-in-my-prince-of-persia

yay altair boost
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Megaman703 | Posted 11/21/2008 5:36:43 AM | message detail
Glad to see that BGE is even acknowledged as an option, and glad to see it's getting lots of support. It seems to me like there's less negative opinion now compared to years past, which is a very encouraging sign.
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"I don't know. I didn't bring my ruler."
greatone10 | Posted 11/21/2008 5:47:41 AM | message detail
It probably helps that the FFVII crew sucked ass during the semi-finals and finals, seeing as though visitors to Board 8 generally seem to complain more about FFVII's dominance than anything else, including Link. For them, it made the contest look a little less predictable.
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Donkey Kong Country 2 for next Games contest.
I hereby bow to FastFalcon who FastFalcon Punched my bracket.
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/21/2008 7:08:40 AM | message detail
Glad to see that BGE is even acknowledged as an option

The BGE option has this poll won. It has a lead of 1554 votes and continues to slowly increase its lead. However, there's a heated battle between the first 2 options for second place. The second option had managed to build up a lead of 336 votes, but the first one pulled a successful comeback and is ahead by 36 votes for second place.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/21/2008 8:02:57 AM | message detail
Glad to see the positive options doing well, especially Best Game Ever. Maybe people will finally realize FFVII doesn't always win, and in fact hasn't won anything since spring of 2005.
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Congratulations to Crono for making his first true finals match, your 5 time contest champion, Link, and the Guru Champion FastFalcon
ffmasterjose | Posted 11/21/2008 8:07:40 AM | message detail
We're really into this poll Luster 0_0
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The 2008 Guru Champion is FastFalcon
hailEC | Posted 11/21/2008 8:34:21 AM | message detail
yessss BGE option. I don't know why Bacon thinks he has to have some weird ass gimmick in everything he does. I'd understand if he wanted to have his hand in things, but once the contests get going it's abundantly clear he doesn't give a flying **** about them. If that's the case, I don't see why he won't just give us what we want, instead of coming up with something that's bound to be worse than the classic set-up. I really hope a BGE has nothing to do with MyGames, and more importantly 4-ways.

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all hail ec your lord and savior
except FastFalcon, he's so legit you must bow down to his ass too.
Lightning Strikes | Posted 11/21/2008 8:36:26 AM | message detail
What on earth's wrong with using MyGames?

Do you even know what it is? Or how it will be used?

Because it's a much better system than standard nominations.
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Mother 3. That is all.
hailEC | Posted 11/21/2008 8:38:20 AM | message detail
if you're going to troll go do it among the stupid masses who might entertain you

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all hail ec your lord and savior
except FastFalcon, he's so legit you must bow down to his ass too.
HaRRicH | Posted 11/21/2008 8:44:15 AM | message detail
Yeah, don't see how you're going to call somebody out on not knowing how MyGames will be used for an argument, THEN say it's a better system than nominations when you don't know either.
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NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2
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Crimson Dragoon | Posted 11/21/2008 8:45:04 AM | message detail
MyGames is clunky and boring and I don't want to hand add all 500+ of my games I own plus the 500+ I don't own anymore.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/21/2008 8:45:44 AM | message detail
I've never figured out how that MyGames stuff worked.
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Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ
Watch and you'll see... FastFalcon own me... in the Guru Contest!
hailEC | Posted 11/21/2008 8:46:42 AM | message detail
you call bacon a lamer and then that's all there pretty much is to it. try it out, yo!

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all hail ec your lord and savior
except FastFalcon, he's so legit you must bow down to his ass too.
HaRRicH | Posted 11/21/2008 9:02:20 AM | message detail
I'm with FFDragon.
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NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2
Remember these games!
Megaman703 | Posted 11/21/2008 9:07:48 AM | message detail

From: Crimson Dragoon | #217
MyGames is clunky and boring and I don't want to hand add all 500+ of my games I own plus the 500+ I don't own anymore.



Exactly. Even if the list is giant, I'd rather have huge alpha lists and checkboxes to add my games.
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"Your daddy was quite the warrior. Do you measure up to him?"
"I don't know. I didn't bring my ruler."
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/21/2008 9:20:03 AM | message detail
Good to see the BGE option is holding strong. Let's go Bacon don't blow this one.
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FastFalcon is in my sig. How can this be.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/21/2008 9:41:35 AM | message detail
Traditional Games Contest, here we come (hopefully)!
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FastFalcon is without a doubt the best Guru I've ever heard of, savvy?
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hailEC | Posted 11/21/2008 10:57:26 AM | message detail
A traditional games contest with good bracket placement would more or less make me forget about all the atrocities of bacon.

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all hail ec your lord and savior
except FastFalcon, he's so legit you must bow down to his ass too.
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/21/2008 11:08:46 AM | message detail
Speaking of which (I think I can get away with posting this again):

1 The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
16 Silent Hill 2

8 Portal
9 Bioshock

5 Half-Life 2
12 Kingdom Hearts II

4 Pokemon Red/Blue
13 Starcraft

6 Goldeneye 007
11 Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater

3 Resident Evil 4
14 Kirby Super Star

7 Guitar Hero
10 Pac-Man

2 Metal Gear Solid
15 Sonic Adventure 2


1 Chrono Trigger
16 Xenogears

8 God of War
9 Devil May Cry

5 Super Mario 64
12 The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening

4 Final Fantasy VIII
13 The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask

6 Final Fantasy Tactics
11 Super Mario World

3 The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
14 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic

7 Halo 2
10 Mega Man 2

2 Super Smash Bros. Melee
15 Earthbound


1 Super Mario Bros. 3
16 The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion

8 Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
9 Mega Man X

5 Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
12 Super Metroid

4 Kingdom Hearts
13 Street Fighter II

6 The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
11 Pokemon Gold/Silver

3 Super Smash Bros. Brawl
14 Grand Theft Auto IV

7 Grand Theft Auto III
10 Star Fox 64

2 Final Fantasy X
15 Soul Calibur II


1 Final Fantasy VII
16 Fire Emblem

8 Sonic the Hedgehog 2
9 Donkey Kong Country

5 Super Mario Galaxy
12 Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars

4 Metroid Prime
13 Mario Kart 64

6 Half-Life
11 Diablo II

3 Final Fantasy III/VI
14 Resident Evil 2

7 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
10 Tetris

2 Halo: Combat Evolved
15 World of Warcraft

Far from perfect, but I like thinking about some of these match-ups. It might have a bit too much SFF on the Nintendo side, but I tried to make them toss-up SFF matches (think Wind Waker vs. Metroid Prime).
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Watch and you'll see... FastFalcon own me... in the Guru Contest!
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/21/2008 11:09:50 AM | message detail
Aww, don't feed Xenogears to CT. 'gears could potentially win something if given the right matchup.
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FastFalcon is in my sig. How can this be.
http://www.rosebride.com/lyn/otakon2k6/chronotrigger.jpg
hailEC | Posted 11/21/2008 11:13:20 AM | message detail
Man my bracket is going to be terrible for this thing. Even though 2K4 will be wholly unreliable, I don't even remember 99% of what happened that contest. It was the first time I came to the board, and it wasn't until a few matches into the contest. Even then, I invested a lot more of my time into the board shenanigans than I did the contest. It'll still be fun as hell to do though. Plus I feel like I can actually get behind games and have some personal stake in who goes on and whatnot.

Just thinking about a 1v1 games is getting me way too excited. DON'T **** THIS **** UP BACON.

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all hail ec your lord and savior
except FastFalcon, he's so legit you must bow down to his ass too.
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 11/21/2008 11:20:02 AM | message detail
Boo at feeding FE to FF7.
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Isaac and Princess Kumatora for SSB4! SSBB Mains: Zelda, Peach, Lucas, Ness
FastFalcon sure showed us his moves in the Guru Contest!
XxSoulxX | Posted 11/21/2008 11:24:30 AM | message detail
1 The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
16 Silent Hill 2

8 Portal
9 Bioshock

5 Half-Life 2
12 Kingdom Hearts II

4 Pokemon Red/Blue
13 Starcraft

6 Goldeneye 007
11 Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater

3 Resident Evil 4
14 Kirby Super Star

7 Guitar Hero
10 Pac-Man

2 Metal Gear Solid
15 Sonic Adventure 2


What a dangerous division holy crap. Here's my guesses:

OoT
Portal

Half-Life 2
Starcraft (holy **** that match would be crazy)

Goldeneye
RE4

Guitar Hero
MGS

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OoT (here's hoping for a good showing from Portal!)
Half-Life 2 (lots of bias, but HL2 has console fans too so I see them beating out Korea... somehow)

RE4 (really tough match again)
MGS

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OoT (here's hoping for a good showing from HL2!)
MGS (blah)

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OoT.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 11/21/2008 11:29:09 AM | message detail
Actually, might as well do the entire bracket.

1 Chrono Trigger
9 Devil May Cry (DMC is more established)

5 Super Mario 64
4 Final Fantasy VIII (I don't think MM will be all that popular)

11 Super Mario World
3 The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past

10 Mega Man 2 (trap match)
2 Super Smash Bros. Melee


1 Super Mario Bros. 3
8 Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (good match)

5 Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (could go either way)
13 Street Fighter II

6 The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
3 Super Smash Bros. Brawl (GTA IV is wasted here)

10 Star Fox 64 (GTA III is wasted here)
2 Final Fantasy X


1 Final Fantasy VII
8 Sonic the Hedgehog 2

5 Super Mario Galaxy
13 Mario Kart 64 (Not much faith in MP)

11 Diablo II (if it was D2 Vs. HL2, then it would be a tough match)
3 Final Fantasy III/VI (poor RE2)

10 Tetris (CoD4 is awesome, but not enough to beat Tetris)
15 World of Warcraft (Ultimate trap match right here)
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Good Times,
Great Memories
UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/21/2008 11:33:12 AM | message detail

From: Crimson Dragoon | Posted: 11/21/2008 11:45:04 AM | #217
MyGames is clunky and boring and I don't want to hand add all 500+ of my games I own plus the 500+ I don't own anymore.



THIS.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 11/21/2008 11:33:14 AM | message detail
1 Chrono Trigger
5 Super Mario 64 (Don't think FF8 is strong enough)

3 The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
2 Super Smash Bros. Melee


1 Super Mario Bros. 3
5 Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (could go either way once again)

3 Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Brawl > TP in terms of Wii games)
10 Star Fox 64 (bias, but if the match did happen, I would take SF64 over it as an upset)


1 Final Fantasy VII
13 Mario Kart 64 (nostalgia wins!)

11 Diablo II
10 Tetris

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1 Chrono Trigger (good match)
2 Super Smash Bros. Melee (another good match)


1 Super Mario Bros. 3
3 Super Smash Bros. Brawl (I don't trust Brawl being this strong, but who knows)


1 Final Fantasy VII
11 Diablo II

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OoT
Chrono Trigger

Super Mario Bros. 3
Final Fantasy VII


OoT
FF VII


FFVII
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Good Times,
Great Memories
charmander6000 | Posted 11/21/2008 11:36:51 AM | message detail
I'm assuming that the myGames feature will be used as the nominations. If so prepare for a lot of cult games and newly released games showing up. Hopefully Bacon would use the MyGames system to build his write-ins list.
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Congratulations to FastFalcon for winning the guru contest, you are the best among the best.
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/21/2008 11:39:28 AM | message detail
I know our confidence in Bacon is low, but I don't think he can possibly do anything as bad as bypassing the entire nomination process. All in all, I actually think he's made more good decisions than bad in terms of contests.
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Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ
Watch and you'll see... FastFalcon own me... in the Guru Contest!
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 11/21/2008 11:42:29 AM | message detail
All in all, I actually think he's made more good decisions than bad in terms of contests.

What are you talking about???
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FastFalcon sure showed us his moves in the Guru Contest!
RPGuy96 | Posted 11/21/2008 11:45:47 AM | message detail
Yo:

Division 1:
This I like. I actually don't think I would change anything here.

Division 2:
Link's Awakening doesn't have a particularly good spot, and probably doesn't need to be in the bracket if that's the best you can come up with. I'd swap it out for Mario 1, and then give Mario 1 a non-Nintendo opponent. I think Mario 1 would be a good fit in MGS4's fourpack, probably at the expense of Super Metroid, but I'd imagine estimates of its strength are likely to vary wildly.
I like FFT/SMW, but the winner seems somewhat wasted going against LttP. I'm complaining about Galaxy/Prime a little later; what I might do is make FFT/SMW//Galaxy/Prime a fourpack in division 4 and make Mario RPG/Kart 64 the 6/11 in division 2. This stretches the seeding a bit, but not too badly.

Division 3:
This I like. The one thing I would change is having FFX go against either Brawl or TP and then the winner faces the other rather than Brawl/TP vs FFX. You get more or less the same outcome, but you might avoid a SFF match if FFX wins the first match. You can probably make a good case for having Gold/Silver as the 15 seed and switching FFX/SCII with TP/GS.

Division 4:
I don't think it's a particularly good idea to have FFVI and VII in the same division. I also think FFVI should be challenged more, but the only thing that could reasonable defeat it before FFVII is Halo and that's a stretch. I think the best thing to do with it is move it to division 3 as the 4 or 5 seed, and bring Halo/WoW along with it. And then move MGS4/Super//KH/SFII down to division 4, playing with the seeding as necessary. This gives you Halo/FFVI a round earlier, and then pits the winner against Mario 3, which it could conceivably beat (although that's not looking too likely).
I don't think Galaxy/Prime is a terribly good idea, and the Mario RPG match is kind of bleh too. But it looks like your low seeds are chosen with care so I don't have another spot to recommend it.

Later rounds:
These are set up about as well as you can hope for if you want Ocarina/FFVII to be the final. The only real beef I have is with FFVI's position, but I talked about that already.
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swirIdude | Posted 11/21/2008 11:50:00 AM | message detail
Why the heck is Starcraft a 13?! o_O
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 11/21/2008 11:50:40 AM | message detail
Well, well RPGuy. Being the resident FE fanboy that you are, I would've expected you objecting at it being 16 seed fodder to be fed to FFVII...
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Isaac and Princess Kumatora for SSB4! SSBB Mains: Zelda, Peach, Lucas, Ness
FastFalcon sure showed us his moves in the Guru Contest!
MartrebnoR | Posted 11/21/2008 11:53:11 AM | message detail
I can see Bacon doing a 4-way games bracket.
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/21/2008 11:53:29 AM | message detail
What are you talking about???

The idea of the 4way format was received positively, as most of the board welcomed a nice little change. Most of us also enjoyed the leniency that Bacon had in terms of which "characters" he'd actually allow in the contest. CJayC would have never thrown Block and Cube in here, and would have been on the edge about entrants like Midgar Zolom. Contrary to the sentiment in this topic, last year's Character Battle is still a personal favorite for many Board 8ers. Even his decision to go 4way again this year wasn't received with outright hostility or anything. Also, the fact that he let us have far more input with things like match pictures was cheered almost unanimously.

I think there's more disappointment in Bacon for being slow in getting contests off the ground than there is for the way he actually runs them. Remember, his two years at the helm are the first where we've only had one contest a year since 2003. We all expect two a year now, and we'll give the stinkeye to anyone who doesn't give em to us. Either way, if Bacon gives us the goods early next year, I'm sure we'll all love him again, and he has never once bungled up a nomination process. I remain confident in his ability to give us a games contest... just not as confident in his ability to deliver on time.
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Watch and you'll see... FastFalcon own me... in the Guru Contest!
MasterMoltar | Posted 11/21/2008 11:53:45 AM | message detail
hey stats topik check this out

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/detail.php?board=8&topic=46515475&message=511565647

this could be your shot to be on the Crew (kinda) for the highly anticipated Games Contest!
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RPGuy96 | Posted 11/21/2008 11:55:43 AM | message detail
While I don't like Fire Emblem getting gobbled up by FFVII, you're really stretching it to give FE a seed in the 7-10 range due to split nominations, and I don't think there's a single match it would win as an 11-14. The low seeds in this bracket were clearly chosen with upset potential in mind, and having Fire Emblem get beaten by Goldeneye, robbing us for Goldeneye/MGS3, is worse than simply having Fire Emblem get beaten by FFVII.

In a 128 games bracket (ie, heaven), you can justify giving Blazing Sword (and maybe Path of Radiance!) a winnable match. In a 64 games bracket you just can't.
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ZFS | Posted 11/21/2008 12:12:49 PM | message detail
Bracket is really good, except for some bad SFF matches - ALttP/SMW then Melee, Galaxy's whole path, though TP/Brawl and MP/MK64 could be good. Always preferred eight divisions to four, too. Good stuff overall, though.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/21/2008 12:15:48 PM | message detail
Bracket is missing Tales of Symphonia (you know it's going to get in).

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FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't.
Crimson Dragoon | Posted 11/21/2008 12:16:21 PM | message detail
shut up kp shut up shut up
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/21/2008 12:18:56 PM | message detail
Bracket should have Tales of Symphonia vs. Resident Evil, imho.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/21/2008 12:18:57 PM | message detail
If Zelos Wilder can get into a contest, a guy who has a small yet dedicated fanbase within an ensemble cast game that is a non-FF RPG...yeah, ToS probably get a high seed in the games contest.

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FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't.
KamikazePotato | Posted 11/21/2008 12:19:53 PM | message detail
Heck, I'm proof. I know how well it'll probably do and I'm still nominating it.

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FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't.
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 11/21/2008 12:21:14 PM | message detail
But ToS characters perform like crap, so I can't expect the game itself to do much better.
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Isaac and Princess Kumatora for SSB4! SSBB Mains: Zelda, Peach, Lucas, Ness
FastFalcon sure showed us his moves in the Guru Contest!
KamikazePotato | Posted 11/21/2008 12:23:09 PM | message detail
I disagree there. ToS fans have never been able to agree on which characters they like the best (a.k.a. an ensemble cast). The game should fare much better...I think midcarder status is a good estimation.

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FastFalcon believed in Snake. I didn't.
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