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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 643

KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/19/2008 10:06:58 PM | message detail
Probably the last topic of the season.

Crono for champ in '09 !

~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
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~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories

~*TRE's poll listing (every poll!)*~
http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html

~*aprosenf's poll script*~
http://web.mit.edu/adamrose/Public/allpolls.txt

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

rSFF (Reverse Same Fanbase Factor): An unproven theory that states that an SFF match will feature the expected weaker character receiving more benefit from SFF than the stronger character. For example, all evidence supports Samus being indirectly stronger than Mario, yet Mario blew Samus away during their 2005 match. That's rSFF in action, and the one case we have of the weaker statistical character winning with it.

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
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satai_delenn | Posted 11/19/2008 10:07:48 PM | message detail
More like Zack for champ in '09!
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My Contest Hero: Zack Fair
Attention, all yoctograms! (It's x2) DIE!
Gaddswell | Posted 11/20/2008 1:57:44 AM | message detail
CD-I Link is totally our next champion!
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Hail FastFalcon, our guru overlord!
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/20/2008 2:27:17 AM | message detail
Updates left in the match: 223
CD-I Link's lead over Toon Link: 3567
Quota needed for Toon Link to come back: 16 votes per update
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Gaddswell | Posted 11/20/2008 3:42:07 AM | message detail
Not that bad, actually, since CD-I Link here's looking to have typical joke character trends while the other 3 rise with the day.

This may actually be a match! >_<
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 11/20/2008 3:47:04 AM | message detail
CD-I/Toon might be a match.

Young Link is just going to get beat down more. He's yet to have an update of 9%. He's not going to be competing. Curious to see if Link can triple all the others combined in an update at some point today.
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That'd be impressive.
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/20/2008 3:48:23 AM | message detail
The morning should be the worst time for CD-I Link, since it was L-Block's and WCC's worst time too. That was when Ryu made a comeback on L-Block and started building up a big lead on him. That was also when Mega Man made a comeback on WCC and took the lead.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/20/2008 3:49:41 AM | message detail
Young Link is just going to get beat down more. He's yet to have an update of 9%.

His best update was 8.24%. His worst update was an epic 2.44%. I'll laugh if he can pull off an update even worse than Lucas's epic 1.91% update.
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Gaddswell | Posted 11/20/2008 4:03:12 AM | message detail
Link's gonna do this! He's gonna comeback against Link!
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Hail FastFalcon, our new guru overlord!
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/20/2008 4:03:46 AM | message detail
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 11/20/2008 4:04:18 AM | message detail
Also, since the first freeze CD-I has lost nearly 10%. A collapse far worse then even L-Block is on the cards with 15 hours left.
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Shocking.
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/20/2008 4:14:19 AM | message detail
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satai_delenn | Posted 11/20/2008 4:22:30 AM | message detail
Link's gonna do this! He's gonna comeback against Link!

XD

Let's go, Toon Link! Conduct yourself to victory...!
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My Contest Hero: Zack Fair
Winner, speeds by, FastFalcon the Guru...
satai_delenn | Posted 11/20/2008 4:31:09 AM | message detail
Also, from the last topic:

Sonic
Knuckles
Tails
Magus


You know, I'd almost be tempted to pick Magus > Knuckles. I can't articulate quite why, since Knuckles didn't exactly impress any more than Sonic or Tails did, but I feel like in a straight Sonic character poll Knuckles might end up looking like the fan favorite.
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My Contest Hero: Zack Fair
Winner, speeds by, FastFalcon the Guru...
Lady Ashe | Posted 11/20/2008 5:26:48 AM | message detail
Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII for champ in '09!
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/20/2008 6:16:24 AM | message detail
Time | Classic | Young | Toon | CD-I
EBV | 48.83% | 6.15% | 13.55% | 31.46% | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 55.38% | 5.64% | 13.18% | 25.80% | (0:00-1:00)
FNV | 59.55% | 5.78% | 14.32% | 20.35% | (1:00-6:00)
BSV | 64.30% | 6.07% | 14.86% | 14.77% | (6:00-9:00)

Classic Link did horrible in the EBV and PHV while CD-I Link did well here. Young Link is staying somewhat constant here while Toon Link improves himself in the FNV. CD-I Link shows the trends of a joke character and of course drops greatly after the PHV ends. Toon Link barely outperformed CD-I Link in the BSV and almost lost the BSV from doing bad in the last hour of that time period.

By the hours:

Time | Classic | Young | Toon | CD-I
1:00 | 55.38% | 5.64% | 13.18% | 25.80%
2:00 | 56.59% | 5.66% | 13.22% | 24.53%
3:00 | 58.71% | 6.08% | 14.27% | 20.94%
4:00 | 61.44% | 5.86% | 14.95% | 17.75%
5:00 | 62.50% | 5.80% | 14.97% | 16.74%
6:00 | 63.86% | 5.42% | 16.06% | 14.66%
7:00 | 63.28% | 6.59% | 15.40% | 14.74%
8:00 | 64.66% | 5.62% | 15.18% | 14.53%
9:00 | 64.72% | 6.10% | 14.15% | 15.02%


Near the end of the BSV, Classic Link managed to pull a 69.52% update (his highest so far). Expect some 70%+ updates in the ASV.
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 11/20/2008 6:31:15 AM | message detail
Why isn't CDI-Link winning?He kicks ass!
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/20/2008 6:38:19 AM | message detail
If a voter doesn't care who to pick, but still wants to vote they usually go for the first option.
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Congratulations to FastFalcon for winning the guru contest, you are the best among the best.
Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted 11/20/2008 6:39:25 AM | message detail
Have the bracket winners been announced yet? I'm not seeing anything about it.

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Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted 11/20/2008 6:40:54 AM | message detail
"Sonic
Knuckles
Tails
Magus
"

Sonic > Magus

Don't see whats so hard about that.

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Can't think of a good sig.
charmander6000 | Posted 11/20/2008 6:41:24 AM | message detail
It usually takes a couple of weeks to announce the winners. I think it's to check whether they cheated, if they have multiple bracket entries for prizes etc.
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Congratulations to FastFalcon for winning the guru contest, you are the best among the best.
MarioSuperstar | Posted 11/20/2008 6:56:12 AM | message detail
the game contest better not be four way.

it better not.
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Link/Wario/Zack/Zidane - Bracket: Link > Zack - Vote: Zidane (99/112)
hailEC | Posted 11/20/2008 7:24:28 AM | message detail
Failer Bacon can't even make a good joke poll. What the hell. I mean honestly... who didn't see classic link obliterating everything to shreds here?

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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/20/2008 7:49:53 AM | message detail
Wow, Classic Link is really taking off. This might be like the biggest percentage swing ever.

Yesterday's chart:

Time | Link | Crono | Solid Snake | Cloud
EBV | 32.77% | 13.95% | 33.87% | 19.40% | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 32.81% | 13.29% | 33.04% | 20.86% | (0:00-1:00)
FNV | 30.72% | 12.53% | 31.15% | 25.61% | (1:00-6:00)
BSV | 34.51% | 11.22% | 28.20% | 26.07% | (6:00-9:00)
DSV | 33.24% | 12.50% | 27.62% | 26.63% | (9:00-14:30)
ASV | 35.53% | 11.74% | 25.21% | 27.52% | (14:30-22:00)
SNV | 32.81% | 13.47% | 24.88% | 28.84% | (22:00-24:00)

Speaking of big percentage swings, look at the difference between Cloud and Snake from start to finish. Snake leads Link for most of the night, but it's basically over from there. Crono doesn't do much of anything, obviously, but he basically goes up and down a percent or two throughout.

Yesterday's stats:

Link – 50.00%
Solid Snake – 45.18%
Cloud Strife – 43.88%
Crono – 26.64%

Lower Half of the bracket stats comin' up. Final stats probably won't be done today.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/20/2008 7:53:26 AM | message detail
Lower Half Stats

Cloud Strife – 50.00%
Sephiroth – 48.83%
Solid Snake – 43.14%
Auron – 37.69%
Mega Man – 37.57%
Tifa Lockhart – 36.75%
Kirby – 36.62%
Sonic the Hedgehog – 34.99%
Dante Sparda – 34.14%
Weighted Companion Cube – 33.31%
Master Chief – 32.67%
Leon Kennedy – 32.50%
Big Boss – 30.23%
Ryu Hayabusa – 29.43%
Kratos – 28.79%
Raiden – 28.42%
Zero – 28.42%
Vivi Orunitia – 28.15%
Sub-Zero – 28.05%
Riku – 27.04%
Squall Leonhart – 26.81%
Kain Highwind – 26.18%
Sora – 26.03%
Mewtwo – 25.68%
Tidus – 25.63%
Midna – 24.80%
Sandbag – 22.94%
Magus – 22.84%
Yoshi – 22.75%
Fox McCloud – 22.61%
Ratchet – 22.25%
Pac-Man – 21.47%
Rydia – 21.25%
Donkey Kong – 20.53%
Marcus Fenix – 20.09%
Jill Valentine – 19.86%
Chris Redfield – 19.55%
Siegfried Schtauffen – 19.53%
Revolver Ocelot – 19.17%
Hogger – 18.99%
Ramza Beoulve – 18.91%
Laharl – 18.64%
Commander Shepard – 18.55%
Nana – 17.56%
Miles Edgeworth – 17.03%
Nero – 16.63%
Captain MacMillan – 16.51%
Pit – 16.50%
Albert Wesker – 16.47%
Miles “Tails” Prower – 16.27%
Ness – 15.63%
King DeDeDe – 15.50%
Jinjo – 13.92%
Sackboy – 13.59%
CATS – 13.56%
Travis Touchdown – 13.39%
Professor Layton – 13.28%
Heavy – 12.51%
Axel Steel – 11.22%
Banjo – 10.72%
Captain Olimar – 9.55%
Lucas – 8.90%
Tim – 7.42%
Nathan Drake – 7.09%

I based Sephiroth off of his quarterfinal performance on Kirby, which probably isn't too far off. Auron ends up ahead of Mega Man, just barely! I still don't like that I have nothing to base Squall off of (from this contest anyway). I might set him equal to (or slightly above!!) Auron and redo these. Cloud SFF'd Squall and Sora so bad that Tim and Drake ended up below Lucas.
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Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/20/2008 7:55:12 AM | message detail
Bottom Half Raw Stats

Solid Snake – 50.00%
Cloud Strife – 49.81%
Big Boss – 48.96%
Kirby – 42.44%
Sephiroth – 34.38%
Weighted Companion Cube – 33.18%
Mega Man – 33.04%
Raiden – 29.84%
Tidus – 29.18%
Vivi Orunitia – 28.04%
Squall Leonhart – 26.70%
Donkey Kong – 26.47%
Sora – 25.93%
Mewtwo – 25.58%
Midna – 24.71%
Sonic the Hedgehog – 24.64%
Zero – 24.30%
Yoshi – 22.66%
Fox McCloud – 22.52%
Tifa Lockhart – 22.39%
Pac-Man – 21.39%
Auron – 21.26%
Dante Sparda – 20.98%
Ryu Hayabusa – 20.85%
Kratos – 20.47%
Master Chief – 20.08%
Chris Redfield – 19.48%
Nero – 18.94%
Miles “Tails” Prower – 18.52%
Leon Kennedy – 17.90%
Miles Edgeworth – 16.97%
Albert Wesker – 16.35%
Jinjo – 16.14%
Kain Highwind – 16.09%
Sub-Zero – 15.82%
Ness – 15.63%
Riku – 14.98%
Jill Valentine – 13.99%
Ratchet – 13.56%
Sackboy – 13.54%
CATS – 13.51%
Revolver Ocelot – 13.50%
Travis Touchdown – 13.39%
Commander Shepard – 13.06%
Rydia – 11.98%
Pit – 11.92%
Hogger – 11.68%
Ramza Beoulve – 11.62%
Laharl – 11.46%
Marcus Fenix – 11.33%
King DeDeDe – 11.20%
Axel Steel – 11.18%
Sandbag – 10.97%
Magus – 10.91%
Siegfried Schtauffen – 10.76%
Nana – 10.70%
Banjo – 10.67%
Lucas – 10.30%
Captain Olimar – 9.51%
Captain MacMillan – 9.10%
Heavy – 8.81%
Professor Layton – 8.16%
Tim – 7.39%
Nathan Drake – 7.06%

Note: These stats may be slightly colored by fanboyism. If you want to see how badly Cloud SFF'd Sephiroth, look at where his quarter of the bracket ends up in these raw stats. Lots of cats in the 13.50 range!
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Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship
Temporarily Sidetracked
Crimson Dragoon | Posted 11/20/2008 7:56:20 AM | message detail
Jill Valentine – 19.86%
Chris Redfield – 19.55%


Heh.
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Megaman703 | Posted 11/20/2008 7:58:22 AM | message detail
Axel Steel – 11.18%
Magus – 10.91%

Jinjo – 16.14%
Sub-Zero – 15.82%


Midna – 24.71%
Sonic the Hedgehog – 24.64%


XD
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 11/20/2008 8:01:03 AM | message detail
Axel Steel – 11.18%
Sandbag – 10.97%
Magus – 10.91%


XD
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/20/2008 8:03:30 AM | message detail
Again, just shows how badly Sephy got SFF'd there.

Anyone think basically setting Squall equal to Auron for adjusted stats is a good idea?
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Megaman703 | Posted 11/20/2008 8:04:22 AM | message detail
Basically. Obviously it's not perfect, but it's the best thing we have other than giving Squall some random value.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/20/2008 8:10:47 AM | message detail
Let's try this again...

Bottom Half Stats

Cloud Strife – 50.00%
Sephiroth – 48.83%
Solid Snake – 43.14%
Squall Leonhart – 38.00%
Auron – 37.69%
Mega Man – 37.57%
Tifa Lockhart – 36.75%
Kirby – 36.62%
Sora – 36.61%
Sonic the Hedgehog – 34.99%
Dante Sparda – 34.14%
Weighted Companion Cube – 33.31%
Master Chief – 32.67%
Leon Kennedy – 32.50%
Yoshi – 32.24%
Fox McCloud – 32.04%
Big Boss – 30.23%
Ryu Hayabusa – 29.43%
Kratos – 28.79%
Raiden – 28.42%
Zero – 28.42%
Vivi Orunitia – 28.15%
Sub-Zero – 28.05%
Chris Redfield – 27.71%
Riku – 27.04%
Kain Highwind – 26.18%
Mewtwo – 25.68%
Tidus – 25.63%
Midna – 24.80%
Sandbag – 22.94%
Magus – 22.84%
Ratchet – 22.25%
Pac-Man – 21.47%
Rydia – 21.25%
Donkey Kong – 20.53%
Marcus Fenix – 20.09%
Jill Valentine – 19.86%
Siegfried Schtauffen – 19.53%
CATS – 19.22%
Revolver Ocelot – 19.17%
Hogger – 18.99%
Ramza Beoulve – 18.91%
Laharl – 18.64%
Commander Shepard – 18.55%
Nana – 17.56%
Miles Edgeworth – 17.03%
Nero – 16.63%
Captain MacMillan – 16.51%
Pit – 16.50%
Albert Wesker – 16.47%
Miles “Tails” Prower – 16.27%
Ness – 15.63%
King DeDeDe – 15.50%
Jinjo – 13.92%
Sackboy – 13.59%
Travis Touchdown – 13.39%
Professor Layton – 13.28%
Heavy – 12.51%
Axel Steel – 11.22%
Banjo – 10.72%
Tim – 10.52%
Nathan Drake – 10.05%
Captain Olimar – 9.55%
Lucas – 8.90%

...Man, Ocelot's pathetic.
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FastFalcon may have won the Guru Contest, but can he see why kids love the taste of Cinnamon Toast Crunch?
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/20/2008 8:14:16 AM | message detail
Classic Link: Lowest % update - 48.83%; Highest % update - 69.93%
Young Link: Lowest % update - 2.44%; Highest % update - 8.42%
Toon Link: Lowest % update - 11.33%; Highest % update - 20.98%
CD-I Link: Lowest % update - 11.18%; Highest % update - 31.46%

Classic Link's worst update and CD-I Link's best update occured in the EBV though. Still waiting for Classic Link to pull a 70%+ update here. I am also hoping for Young Link to pull an update that is even worse than Lucas's epic 1.91% update.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/20/2008 8:19:30 AM | message detail
Time for unextrapolated stats for the top 20 based entirely on guesswork!

Link 50.00%
Cloud Strife 48.00%
Sephiroth 46.00%
Solid Snake 42.00%
Samus Aran 41.00%
Mario 37.50%
Crono 36.00%
Vincent Valentine 35.00%
Squall Leonhart 35.00%
Megaman 34.50%
Auron 33.50%
Tifa 33.50%
Sora 33.50%
Sonic the Hedgehog 33.00%
Big Boss 33.00%
Kirby 31.50%
Dante 31.00%
Ganondorf 31.00%
Leon Kennedy 30.00%
Zack Fair 30.00%
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Congratulations to Crono for making his first true finals match, your 5 time contest champion, Link, and the Guru Champion FastFalcon
LeonhartFour | Posted 11/20/2008 8:32:56 AM | message detail
Classic Link now owns the biggest blowout of the contest.
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FastFalcon is without a doubt the best Guru I've ever heard of, savvy?
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/20/2008 8:33:07 AM | message detail
I don't mind Squall being adjusted, but I don't know how fair it is to start him over Auron. Squall couldn't beat Sonic twice last year while Auron did it his first time this year. I would also personally take Tifa > Sora, so when I see Squall barely outdid Sora while Tifa barely outdid Auron against Sephiroth...I think Squall/Auron are statistically equal/close, but I don't think anything really says Squall > Auron based on what happened this year.

Splitting hairs, but I wouldn't want to see Squall higher than equal to Auron...which is still damn good and only a little lower.
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NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/20/2008 8:34:10 AM | message detail
Wario > Young Link CONFIRMED.
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NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2
Remember these games!
LeonhartFour | Posted 11/20/2008 8:35:07 AM | message detail
Squall couldn't beat Sonic twice last year while Auron did it his first time this year.

Well, I doubt Auron beats Sonic under the same circumstances Squall had last year either. Tifa still ends up a little ahead of Sora this way, too.

And besides, it's not like these stats are worth anything anyway.
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FastFalcon is without a doubt the best Guru I've ever heard of, savvy?
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/20/2008 8:39:41 AM | message detail
I'm back to loving the Linkster again, and I must say that this performance is magnificent and casts a long overdue shadow on Cloud's 2003 win.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/20/2008 8:42:01 AM | message detail
No, it doesn't. Classic Link winning this poll proves nothing. Is anyone surprised he's blowing everything else out of the water? Does it prove Toon Link is a little weaker? Not at all. This is a Favorite Link Poll, plain and simple. This isn't a "Which of these Links would you vote over Cloud?" poll.
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FastFalcon is without a doubt the best Guru I've ever heard of, savvy?
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/20/2008 8:43:50 AM | message detail
True enough on the stats, and I'll agree Sonic would have beaten Auron in R3 last year if he were in Squall's place...but in R4, he may have stolen it if Solid/Squall hurt each other; Auron's more removed from Solid's prime than Squall due to both time and console. Hard to say though.
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NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2
Remember these games!
Megaman703 | Posted 11/20/2008 8:44:41 AM | message detail
I think (hope) yo meant the actual finals match.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/20/2008 8:45:22 AM | message detail
Auron's more removed from Solid's prime than Squall due to both time and console.

Uhhh...Weren't MGS2 and FFX released within a few months of each other?
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FastFalcon is without a doubt the best Guru I've ever heard of, savvy?
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_Hogger_ | Posted 11/20/2008 8:46:12 AM | message detail
CATS – 19.22%
Revolver Ocelot – 19.17%
Hogger – 18.99%


The fact Ocelot is in the company of 2 weak joke characters is awesome
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FastFalcon05 sure knows how to fill out a Guru Contest bracket better than I!
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/20/2008 8:46:51 AM | message detail
No, I meant Cloud's now shadowy win over Link. Cloud needed insane picture advantage, and L-Block needed the entirety of the Internet!

http://beatme101.com/images/CD-i%20Link.jpg

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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 11/20/2008 8:48:46 AM | message detail
The first 7 are N9.But Sonic so low?Damn...
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/20/2008 8:49:04 AM | message detail
Insane pic advantage? Psh, maybe if it were the sprite round! We know that's where Magus worked his voodoo!
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FastFalcon is without a doubt the best Guru I've ever heard of, savvy?
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/20/2008 8:49:23 AM | message detail
I could come up with 2 reasons why Classic Link is overperforming:

1. The Classic Link option just happens to be the first one. For most voters who aren't sure who to vote, they'll probably pick the first option.
2. The match picture plays a role here. For Classic Link's picture, it says "Link" below it rather than "Classic". That probably draws most voters to vote for Classic Link as if it were the real Link. I bet if it said "Classic" below it instead, the blowout might not be as big.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/20/2008 8:51:22 AM | message detail
I don't think it does- Young Link and Toon Link are getting SFF'd hard, but what would you expect? This is the most severe fanbase overlap we've ever seen- the same character. Either of them would beat Cloud in a poll tomorrow. If anything anti-champion voting has been shown to be a legit factor, although Link had plenty of reason to boost from 2003 to 2004. It'd be nice if my reasoning (anti-champion voting) for taking Cloud > Link in 2003 was actually correct though!
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Congratulations to Crono for making his first true finals match, your 5 time contest champion, Link, and the Guru Champion FastFalcon
Megaman703 | Posted 11/20/2008 8:51:35 AM | message detail
In that case, I agree, this match has little bearing on 2k3. It does show that Toon Link is weaker than regular Link when paired against each other, but indirectly against Cloud, this match proves nothing in that regard.

Although I do agree normal Link vs Cloud in 2k3, Link wins.
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