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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 642

MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/19/2008 10:00:03 PM | message detail
Iuno, maybe thats what the stats say. It just find it weird, SFF or not, that Ike is 40 spots over someone who beat him in round 1. -shrug-
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satai_delenn | Posted 11/19/2008 10:00:12 PM | message detail
Believe it, you all should have rallied around Cloud yesterday and we would be seeing Zack beat down 3 forms of Cloud LFFing each other right now.

That would have been amazing. Zack > Crossdressing Cloud, believe.
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creativename | Posted 11/19/2008 10:02:13 PM | message detail
Thanks for the numbers Xuxon :)


charmander
They are by no means final. It's a small start.

I didn't mean that your particular stats are bad or anything :)

I just mean that the entire concept of multi-pack, multi-advancement stats isn't even a viable as an intellectual exercise. I just think it's bunk.


Gaddswell
Looking at the last hours of the final, that was some final rush Cloud made there!

Snake really won only based on the early bandwagon/joke board vote.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/19/2008 10:02:27 PM | message detail
Iuno, maybe thats what the stats say. It just find it weird, SFF or not, that Ike is 40 spots over someone who beat him in round 1. -shrug-

Maybe I could use Ike based on Alucard on what he got on Pikachu.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/19/2008 10:04:58 PM | message detail
I find it hillarious that with hogger advancing to round 2 he's nearly 100 though. Shows how weak that 4 pack really was outside of Dante
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/19/2008 10:05:01 PM | message detail
Well, talking about stats and this format...Ngamer, may I suggest a new version of your x-stats calculator that can roughly put characters into four-way matches? It's becoming more relevant and it will allow for a lot of new fun for playing with stats.

Mere suggestion, albeit one I think is good!
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creativename | Posted 11/19/2008 10:05:08 PM | message detail
And yeah, this match is boring. NEXT.

...wait, what? "Done"? The halloween bag has no more candy!?
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creativename | Posted 11/19/2008 10:07:11 PM | message detail
Harrich, I have something akin to a naive, linear multi-way calculator coming - both stats from matches, and predictions based on strength values. Will get to finishing them and putting them up on the site one of these days.
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creativename | Posted 11/19/2008 10:07:56 PM | message detail
Cross-dressing Cloud would own Link so hard.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/19/2008 10:08:28 PM | message detail
Ngamer, may I suggest a new version of your x-stats calculator that can roughly put characters into four-way matches?

Good idea. I was wondering why no one created an x-stat calculator yet that could calculate the results of a 4-way match given past x-stat values from previous contests.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/19/2008 10:11:29 PM | message detail
It's only a matter of time until Classic Link starts pulling 60% updates. His best update so far was at 59.04%.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/19/2008 10:13:15 PM | message detail
http://pics.fort90.com/cdi_link.gif

the match pic today shoulda been a gif with this as cdi links pic
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 11/19/2008 10:22:00 PM | message detail
Hmm. Did Brawl help Isaac in any way...? Granted, Lucario sucked ass, dropping a huge atomic bomb, but why did he struggle to break away from ISAAC, let alone lose the lead to him for a while in the night? Brawl was Isaac's first appearance since GS:TLA...And I think Isaac wouldn't get nearly as close to Lucario as he did were it not for Brawl, eeven though he isn't playable.
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Gaddswell | Posted 11/19/2008 10:31:14 PM | message detail
Sure has been a long while since I've seen a lead this big this early into the poll.
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MichaelWClark | Posted 11/19/2008 10:39:44 PM | message detail

red sox 777 (#417)
Hey we're about 1200 votes ahead of yesterday's pace already. Snake, Cloud, and Crono were......taking away votes from the poll?




Great post. His strength is absurd.


I don't care what anyone says.

2008 Link would beat 06 Link. Short of Snake rallying at the start (proof of this is that Cloud beat Snake the entire rest of the match) Link never had a challenge this contest, and watching fanboys think Snake was going to win was a site to behold. With what OoT Adult Link is doing TO HIMSELF right now, I have no doubts whatsoever Cloud absolutely would have lost to Link this year if Mario and Samus were in the poll. Heck, honestly, I would not be shocked if Link beat Cloud if Cloud was in this poll right now. Obviously he would have to be the huge favorite, but it would not shock me in the least.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/19/2008 10:47:59 PM | message detail
There we go. Classic Link finally pulled in an update greater than 60%. It was a 60.80% update.
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wavedash101 | Posted 11/19/2008 10:48:50 PM | message detail
This shows just how dumb the Zelda fanbase is
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 11/19/2008 10:49:30 PM | message detail
And looking at the stats, Altair,despite making it to round 3, is just barely in the upper half of the X-Stats with a value of 18.82 shows how weak his fourpack was (and that Altair himself is nothing special; he benefited from having one of the weakest fourpacks that happened to be SFFing each other).
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TheCruelAngel | Posted 11/19/2008 11:10:37 PM | message detail
...XDXDXD

best match ever imo
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/19/2008 11:34:59 PM | message detail
With what OoT Adult Link is doing TO HIMSELF right now, I have no doubts whatsoever Cloud absolutely would have lost to Link this year if Mario and Samus were in the poll.

Yeah and we can all point to Sephiroth as picture proof of this statement's veracity mirite
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/19/2008 11:38:21 PM | message detail
...Altair may not be anything special, but please don't try to use these "stats" to say that.

Besides, he's the Middle Eastern equivalent of Ryu Hayabusa. Give him two pieces of fodder and someone like, say, Mewtwo there, and I'd consider it a pretty sexy upset pick.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 11/19/2008 11:40:30 PM | message detail
Oh...These stats do look rather weird anyways.
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MartrebnoR | Posted 11/19/2008 11:58:47 PM | message detail
I love how Fox is terrible low despite surviving Yoshi SFF and not looking like a failure in round 2 as he was expected to. And in the end he's still incredibly low anyway. :/
red sox 777 | Posted 11/20/2008 12:00:24 AM | message detail
lol 4-way x-stats

Oh, and who do you take here?

Sonic
Knuckles
Tails
Magus
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MichaelWClark | Posted 11/20/2008 12:06:23 AM | message detail

Karma Hunter (#470)
With what OoT Adult Link is doing TO HIMSELF right now, I have no doubts whatsoever Cloud absolutely would have lost to Link this year if Mario and Samus were in the poll.

Yeah and we can all point to Sephiroth as picture proof of this statement's veracity mirite




Sephiroth shares alot of vote with Cloud, they are about even....Link does this to Mario and Samus.

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Link_vs_Cloud_vs_Sephiroth_vs_Snake_vs_Mario_vs_Samus_2006

See the difference?
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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 11/20/2008 12:07:41 AM | message detail
39 people fell off the Top 50 today. ArrowedOut, Hippo_Is_Teh_67, CP724, One_winged_ange, PieCrusadier, paulg235, Osmachenko, satai_delenn, Wolf_Kenri, sumguynothere, prdwong, shaneh87, TaxEl, evp, TheColderWar, Gamepsycho899, Pastranna, KleenexTissue50, Terrane, vortch, Zsword, ElectricChaos, Wht_Lens, freacyreturns, Luigifan98, innocuous618, dark0950, firaga89, WalrusJump, riemedev, jase87, Naveplayer, vash_131, Nameless2000, Dodongo77, Radix1337, Lyre, HayamaEatsRamen and thedarktower19 did not have Link > Solid Snake as the contest winners.

4 people on the Top 50 managed to stay on despite only scoring 64 out of 128 points. Former first place KadenceInc, former second place Legendary_Auron, former third place MetricTrout and former fourth place Paratroopa1 also did not have Link > Solid Snake as the contest winners.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/20/2008 12:12:05 AM | message detail
Hey is that Link killing Mario and Samus far far worse than he was even able to approach doing this year

almost as if he was stronger then hmm
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ZFS | Posted 11/20/2008 12:49:32 AM | message detail
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/board8/images//a/a4/Cb564.jpg

standout factor nothing

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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/20/2008 12:49:33 AM | message detail
YES! Toon Link cuts CD-I Link. Toon Link got a 14.84% update while CD-I Link gets an 11.87% update (his worst so far). Classic Link pulls off a 66.47% update (his best so far).
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SecksThaNemesis | Posted 11/20/2008 12:55:42 AM | message detail
When the heck did ZFS become Heroic Mario.

it's always neat when the HM of old peaks out through the cold hard exterior
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/20/2008 1:03:21 AM | message detail
Okay, Young Link officially sucks now since he pulled in an epic 2.44% update. Before that, he was pulling in 5-7% updates. Toon Link manages to get 2 cuts in a row.
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jacko_vdz | Posted 11/20/2008 1:06:04 AM | message detail
2nd place lets do this Toon Link!
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/20/2008 1:26:35 AM | message detail
About Toon Link in 2k3...I'm starting to think he didn't get hurt much/any by Cloud, but it really hindered his ability to SFF against Fox and Samus. Afterall, Fox held up a lot like Yoshi and Samus did better than Mario. If that was the case, then a lot more of us would have been behind the "It's friggin' Mario" bandwagon in 2k5.
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vcharon | Posted 11/20/2008 1:40:26 AM | message detail
Those x-stats stink. That adds fuel to "lol x-stats" more than anything I've seen yet.
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Gaddswell | Posted 11/20/2008 1:41:25 AM | message detail
Toony gonna take the morning vote here en route to the biggest comeback we've seen!
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Gaddswell | Posted 11/20/2008 1:47:57 AM | message detail
And jeeze, look at adult Link pull 66% updates in the night!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/20/2008 1:50:34 AM | message detail
WW Link's performance really doesn't make a lot of sense to me when you look at 2k4, though. That would mean that TP hype, Zelda compilation, and the other myriad of reasons did pretty much nothing for Link, and it all hinged upon that one picture.

I think the reality probably falls a little in the middle - Link obviously had virtually every bracket in the contest on his side in 2k3, and looking at the difference between the votals in Cloud/Link I as opposed to every other match in that contest it's not out there to say that Link overperformed what he "should" have gotten in that match. Of course, that would be counterbalanced by the WW picture and anti-champion votes (still a part of his intrinsic strength as yesterday proved, but this was before it was a part of Cloud's as well).

Then 2k4 rolls around, and Link gets his more favorable picture while Cloud gets a good number of brackets on his side. This is likely where TP hype makes the difference.
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Lopen | Posted 11/20/2008 1:52:25 AM | message detail
Nice poll, though four Snakes or Clouds would've been better...!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/20/2008 1:53:13 AM | message detail
Or y'know random variance from year to year but WHATEVER DUDES WHATEVER
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transience | Posted 11/20/2008 1:56:05 AM | message detail
are we trying to draw conclusions about 2003 based on Classic Link vs. Toon Link vs. Young Link vs. CDI Link?

cause uhhhhhhhhhh
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/20/2008 2:00:06 AM | message detail
whatever tranny don't you see these UPDATES Classic Link is getting

next year let's nominate just Classic Link he'll probably get like 90% on Cloud that's how that works y'know
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ZFS | Posted 11/20/2008 2:03:08 AM | message detail
toon link boost next year when nintendo announces the next zelda

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transience | Posted 11/20/2008 2:04:10 AM | message detail
no I stopped looking at the most boring match of the contest 15 minutes in I mean who wants to see this
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/20/2008 2:05:56 AM | message detail
People angling for a contest comprised solely of Link variants of course

C'mon Bacon you know it's just to bring traffic to the site look at this match's votals do it
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/20/2008 2:12:27 AM | message detail
Toony gonna take the morning vote here en route to the biggest comeback we've seen!

Toon Link seems to be doing pretty good in the deep night. I think he'll have a good morning vote and ASV because of his presence in Brawl.

Well then, there's 4 cuts in a row for Toon Link. CD-I Link sucks in the deep night, from what I can tell.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/20/2008 2:18:18 AM | message detail
Hmm... I'll call it now. Biggest comeback in contest history should be pulled off by Toon Link today on CD-i Link. He's got the trends for it.

...god, that's a depressing statement.
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 11/20/2008 2:20:41 AM | message detail
CD-i has obvious joke trends. Massive power hour but falls off after that coniuously throughout the rest of the match.
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General_Zimbad | Posted 11/20/2008 2:21:21 AM | message detail
Wang
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