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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 640

ZenOfThunder | Posted 11/18/2008 3:36:48 PM | message detail
it's the fiiiinal countdown

~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
www.gamefaqscontests.com

~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Character Contest Histories*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories

~*TRE's poll listing (every poll!)*~
http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html

~*aprosenf's poll script*~
http://web.mit.edu/adamrose/Public/allpolls.txt

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

rSFF (Reverse Same Fanbase Factor): An unproven theory that states that an SFF match will feature the expected weaker character receiving more benefit from SFF than the stronger character. For example, all evidence supports Samus being indirectly stronger than Mario, yet Mario blew Samus away during their 2005 match. That's rSFF in action, and the one case we have of the weaker statistical character winning with it.

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
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Lord_Yggdrassil | Posted 11/18/2008 3:37:49 PM | message detail
Final =

Link>Cloud>Snake>Crono
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Xiivi | Posted 11/18/2008 3:51:55 PM | message detail
I'm just hoping the Final isn't over in the first 5 minutes. Sadly I have the feeling that's going to be the case though.
Gaddswell | Posted 11/18/2008 3:56:40 PM | message detail
It probably is, unless Snake / Crono decides to be interesting.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/18/2008 3:57:12 PM | message detail
You mean Crono/Cloud.
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Lord_Yggdrassil | Posted 11/18/2008 3:58:28 PM | message detail
Nah. There will be no close battles. Snake>Crono is a lock. Look how strong snake is today,
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The_Ocelot2 | Posted 11/18/2008 4:00:07 PM | message detail
40 vote cut watchout
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Go Ducks Go!
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Mr3790 | Posted 11/18/2008 4:02:46 PM | message detail
Wow, snake Totally disregarded what I said earlier today...

...Not that that's a bad thing, of course!
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/18/2008 4:03:25 PM | message detail
you guys know the other topic's not closed yet
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/18/2008 4:30:06 PM | message detail
ACTIVATE RALLYING

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Bracket:
http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 11/18/2008 4:30:47 PM | message detail
I think Crono's getting last tomorrow.
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Gaddswell | Posted 11/18/2008 4:31:55 PM | message detail
Snake's lead now is finally less that his lead at the end of the power hour.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/18/2008 4:32:46 PM | message detail
600 Barrier Broken!

1:00 | 56.93% | 54.18% | -2.65%
2:00 | 54.83% | 50.12% | -4.71%
3:00 | 50.18% | 49.98% | -0.20%
4:00 | 52.21% | 48.63% | -3.58%
5:00 | 50.20% | 48.22% | -1.98%
6:00 | 49.78% | 49.30% | -0.48%
7:00 | 50.16% | 49.62% | -0.54%
8:00 | 52.32% | 50.83% | -1.49%
9:00 | 50.19% | 49.78% | -0.41%
10:00 | 50.03% | 49.87% | -0.16%
11:00 | 50.05% | 51.26% | 1.21%
12:00 | 51.03% | 49.71% | -1.32%
13:00 | 49.97% | 51.04% | 1.07%
14:00 | 50.52% | 52.55% | 2.03%
15:00 | 50.14% | 50.76% | 0.62%
16:00 | 48.96% | 50.04% | 1.08%
17:00 | 47.86% | 51.01% | 3.15%
18:00 | 47.50% | 49.09% | 1.59%
19:00 | 47.23% | 48.74% | 1.51%

20:00 | 47.58%
21:00 | 47.87%
22:00 | 45.71%
23:00 | 48.75%
24:00 | 51.26%
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Crono's quest to beat Link:
Character Battle VII Final: Link vs. Cloud vs. Crono vs. Snake
Master Moltar | Posted 11/18/2008 4:33:25 PM | message detail
So I came home and all of a sudden Snake loses 100+ votes

oh geez here it comes
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Moltar Status: augh
Link/Zack/Duke/Altair - Bracket: Link > Shadow - Vote: Link (181/256)
Karma Hunter | Posted 11/18/2008 4:33:44 PM | message detail
Okay guys I'm back! Whew that was close
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/18/2008 4:34:28 PM | message detail
Come on Snake.....hold on for 4 hours and 26 minutes. That's all we ask of you.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/18/2008 4:34:43 PM | message detail
well dang
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/18/2008 4:35:08 PM | message detail
And of course for this recent collapse I again blame Moltar

HOLD SNAKE HOLD
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/18/2008 4:37:30 PM | message detail
why are people getting worried? cloud has about an hour and a half to get a 200 vote lead because Snakes time will be after that. Not happening
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/18/2008 4:39:17 PM | message detail
oh look KH comes back and snake stalls

coincidence? i think not
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/18/2008 4:39:52 PM | message detail
Cloud has until 11 probably. Snake should still be the favorite, yes.
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Crono's quest to beat Link:
Character Battle VII Final: Link vs. Cloud vs. Crono vs. Snake
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/18/2008 4:41:20 PM | message detail
only the favorite? more like snake should still be a lock imo
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/18/2008 4:41:25 PM | message detail
I'm not trusting anything out of this match. For all I know Cloud could have the most epic last hour ever WHICH MEANS IT'S TIME TO BUILD UP THE LEAD AGAIN <_<
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/18/2008 4:41:49 PM | message detail
*plays Frog's theme*
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/18/2008 4:42:12 PM | message detail
hey kh if you rally for cloud to win i'll pick whatever game you want to nominate for the guru
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/18/2008 4:44:23 PM | message detail
Yeah, Cloud would win the last hour over Snake without rallying, so Cloud could potentially have until the end of the match to complete his comeback, if the Snake rally doesn't materialize, or if FFVII fans decide to counterrally Cloud.
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Crono's quest to beat Link:
Character Battle VII Final: Link vs. Cloud vs. Crono vs. Snake
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/18/2008 4:44:50 PM | message detail
two stalls in a row not suspicious at all
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/18/2008 4:45:52 PM | message detail
serious comebacks cant happen with as much SFF as Cloud has. Even with rallies almost half the people would just vote for seph anyway.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/18/2008 4:48:11 PM | message detail
Sephiroth came back from farther down with half the percentage to work with and with Cloud SFFing him last time. It's possible.
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Crono's quest to beat Link:
Character Battle VII Final: Link vs. Cloud vs. Crono vs. Snake
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/18/2008 4:49:23 PM | message detail
THREE IN A ROW KARMA HUNTER I WILL END YOU
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/18/2008 4:53:46 PM | message detail
n_n

<.<
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/18/2008 4:54:39 PM | message detail
Yeah, Snake hasn't even been going up. Cloud has just been dropping off.

I declare Cloud Time official OVAH

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Bracket:
http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/18/2008 4:57:07 PM | message detail
so he's not actually rallying for snake, he's KILLING POTENTIAL CLOUD VOTERS

when will the madness won
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/18/2008 4:57:47 PM | message detail
when will my typing become coherent

FIND OUT NEXT TIME
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/18/2008 4:59:32 PM | message detail
Back on track. Come on FFVII fanbase, you can beat the Snake rally!
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Crono's quest to beat Link:
Character Battle VII Final: Link vs. Cloud vs. Crono vs. Snake
KamikazePotato | Posted 11/18/2008 4:59:50 PM | message detail
Cloud Time is still

Snake Time needs to start pretty soon though

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Bracket:
http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/18/2008 5:09:05 PM | message detail
Snake killing hopes and dreams 1 update at a time
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/18/2008 5:09:44 PM | message detail
Snake Time is fun time!

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Bracket:
http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10
Biolizard28 | Posted 11/18/2008 5:11:24 PM | message detail
Dammit, I already made a match pic. I don't want to change it!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/18/2008 5:14:46 PM | message detail
Veeeery fun time.

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Bracket:
http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10
red sox 777 | Posted 11/18/2008 5:15:31 PM | message detail
Game over. (Prove me wrong Cloud)
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Crono's quest to beat Link:
Character Battle VII Final: Link vs. Cloud vs. Crono vs. Snake
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/18/2008 5:15:39 PM | message detail
aww yeah Snake Time
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Gaddswell | Posted 11/18/2008 5:15:57 PM | message detail
Well, that was fast.
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Master Moltar | Posted 11/18/2008 5:17:35 PM | message detail
yeahhhhh snake
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Moltar Status: augh
Cloud/Snake/Seph/Kirby - Bracket: who cares go snake
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/18/2008 5:19:00 PM | message detail
bacon will make sure things get set straight i believe
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/18/2008 5:20:52 PM | message detail
Cloud did his best relative to Sephiroth's 2006 trends since the start of the ASV last hour, but this hour has started very badly for him.

1:00 | 56.93% | 54.18% | -2.65%
2:00 | 54.83% | 50.12% | -4.71%
3:00 | 50.18% | 49.98% | -0.20%
4:00 | 52.21% | 48.63% | -3.58%
5:00 | 50.20% | 48.22% | -1.98%
6:00 | 49.78% | 49.30% | -0.48%
7:00 | 50.16% | 49.62% | -0.54%
8:00 | 52.32% | 50.83% | -1.49%
9:00 | 50.19% | 49.78% | -0.41%
10:00 | 50.03% | 49.87% | -0.16%
11:00 | 50.05% | 51.26% | 1.21%
12:00 | 51.03% | 49.71% | -1.32%
13:00 | 49.97% | 51.04% | 1.07%
14:00 | 50.52% | 52.55% | 2.03%
15:00 | 50.14% | 50.76% | 0.62%
16:00 | 48.96% | 50.04% | 1.08%
17:00 | 47.86% | 51.01% | 3.15%
18:00 | 47.50% | 49.09% | 1.59%
19:00 | 47.23% | 48.74% | 1.51%
20:00 | 47.58% | 48.47% | 0.89%

21:00 | 47.87%
22:00 | 45.71%
23:00 | 48.75%
24:00 | 51.26%
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Crono's quest to beat Link:
Character Battle VII Final: Link vs. Cloud vs. Crono vs. Snake
paraboxx | Posted 11/18/2008 5:25:26 PM | message detail
Well, on the downside, epic Kirby collapse is epic.
But at least Snake is holding on...for now.

You know, for all those of you who've been here since the beginning, who've seen Link > Cloud > Sephiroth >> Everyone year after year after year...Snake taking first here has to be a hell of a milestone. So I won't ruin it by saying it's uninteresting. Because it's not, objectively.

It's just uninteresting for me personally.
Completely.
And so are the finals.

(...although the fact that I, apparently, picked this upset in my bracket puts the interest level back up a bit. Think 451 will be good enough to make leaderboard?)
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/18/2008 5:29:05 PM | message detail
aww yeah Snake Time keeps on rolling.
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Lopen | Posted 11/18/2008 5:29:33 PM | message detail
Snake winning here shouldn't be considered a huge upset by any means. Basically if you weren't a subscriber to MGS/FF SFF, you should've gambled on this or at least felt anxious about picking Cloud because Snake was less than 6% under Cloud in this situation before MGS4 and before Brawl.

Tomorrow's going to be a terrible finish to the contest. C'mon Snake, do something crazy!
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Kirby's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 5 - The big cheese himself
Target: 48% Gained Crazy Party and "You're Too Slow!" ability. Spikey goin down!
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/18/2008 5:30:05 PM | message detail
come on CRONO
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