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| PegasusLover123 | Posted 11/17/2008 9:55:40 AM | message detail |
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I didn't think i'd see Mario losing to Crono! Have people finally had enough of the red plumber? --- "If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh." -Magus |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/17/2008 9:59:11 AM | message detail |
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From: PegasusLover123 | #451 Massive nintendo SFF fest --- http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png http://videogames.techfresh.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/wow-wrath-of-the-lich-king.jpg |
| red sox 777 | Posted 11/17/2008 10:06:28 AM | message detail |
| Something I just noticed: Zack only improved from
30% to 34% against Link when Duke and Altair were replaced with Mario
and X. That's a surprisingly small amount of LFF. Crono is has 41.66%
on Link right now, so Zack suggests that Crono could still put up
around 36% on Link directly, only 1% lower than he did in 2004. That may or may not be too exciting, but Crono will probably finish around 57% on Mario, which suggests that Crono is Mario's equal if Link/Mario hurt each other equally in this match and last round, that is to say, they are in an LFF but not an SFF situation. --- Crono's quest to beat Link: Link vs. Crono vs. Mario vs. Samus |
| ExThaNemesis | Posted 11/17/2008 10:09:52 AM | message detail |
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Looking at the morning vote... I love how Mario couldn't do mroe
then a few very minor cuts with the morning vote and Crono won the
morning vote overall by far I'm not even counting this as a win in Crono's favor in their series. This is a joke. --- ExThaNemesis is the man. http://img.imgcake.com/ omghawttt13141.jpg |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/17/2008 10:13:45 AM | message detail |
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From: ExThaNemesis | #454 Mario fanboys at their finest --- http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png http://videogames.techfresh.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/wow-wrath-of-the-lich-king.jpg |
| ExThaNemesis | Posted 11/17/2008 10:14:29 AM | message detail |
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I don't even like Mario that much, but you'd have to be a huge Crono fanboy to think he's even close to the Plumber. --- ExThaNemesis is the man. http://img.imgcake.com/ omghawttt13141.jpg |
| Crimson Dragoon | Posted 11/17/2008 10:16:49 AM | message detail |
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Why in the balls would you take Link > Mario in the first place with three nintendo and one not nintendo in the poll? --- ~FFDragon. (at Work !!) The Cream of Resident Evil Fanboyism. |
| hailEC | Posted 11/17/2008 10:18:40 AM | message detail |
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Link > Mario here has to be one of the worst picks anyone could have made. then again to have a good bracket this contest you probably had to have made a good variety of bad picks --- all hail ec your lord and savior |
| red sox 777 | Posted 11/17/2008 10:19:30 AM | message detail |
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Continuing with that line of thought, I do think Link is SFFing Mario a
bit, so Mario should still be ahead of Crono, but Mario's not that far
below what I would guess he would get on Link indirectly....he's
actually very close to his 2004 value on Link right now. Another 2004
reference? Hmm.... Going back to Zack, he looks good to be a solid high-midcarder on the edge of the near-elite. I'll take him over Aeris, the Bowser/Yoshi/Luigi trio, and probably Kirby 1v1. --- Crono's quest to beat Link: Link vs. Crono vs. Mario vs. Samus |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/17/2008 10:20:42 AM | message detail |
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Mario fanboys at their finest Bracket fanboys. Just remember that I was in second place when Master Hand beat Kuja. --- Yoblazer: http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/3699/thegamefaqsticketxr8.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/17/2008 10:22:07 AM | message detail |
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It was a given that whoever won the Vincent/Crono match up was a lock
for the finals unless L Block ruined things again (Which fortunently he
didn't) --- http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png http://videogames.techfresh.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/wow-wrath-of-the-lich-king.jpg |
| ExThaNemesis | Posted 11/17/2008 10:31:37 AM | message detail |
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Link > Mario was a pick made solely because I wanted Cloud > Link
to happen, and I figured Mario would hold up better against Samus and
Link than he actually did... a LOT better, actually. It was a huge
reach, but not one of the worst picks or anything like that. --- ExThaNemesis is the man. http://img.imgcake.com/ omghawttt13141.jpg |
| ExThaNemesis | Posted 11/17/2008 10:32:46 AM | message detail |
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And had I kept Link > Crono, then Link > Cloud in the finals, I'd
have just as much shot at winning things as I do now, so I'm not too
upset. Games Contest is going to be so great when things go back to the way they're supposed to. FFVII winning. --- ExThaNemesis is the man. http://img.imgcake.com/ omghawttt13141.jpg |
| Crimson Dragoon | Posted 11/17/2008 10:33:37 AM | message detail |
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2562 Why would you think this again? --- ~FFDragon. (at Work !!) The Cream of Resident Evil Fanboyism. |
| Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted 11/17/2008 10:34:26 AM | message detail |
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| Crimson Dragoon | Posted 11/17/2008 10:35:44 AM | message detail |
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I mean, I have little room to talk here: I took Vincent > Crono and
my bracket is in the trash, but the winner of Vincent/Crono was given a
spot in the finals as a gift. --- ~FFDragon. (at Work !!) The Cream of Resident Evil Fanboyism. |
| ExThaNemesis | Posted 11/17/2008 10:36:00 AM | message detail |
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Why would you think this again? That poll has Cloud, Sephiroth and Snake in it. Plus, I figured Crono would hold up less well here than he is as well. Add to the fact that he's not really even close to Mario in strength and it's really not a bad upset pick. Well, until you start seeing how well C has been doing throughout the contest. --- ExThaNemesis is the man. http://img.imgcake.com/ omghawttt13141.jpg |
| Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted 11/17/2008 10:36:58 AM | message detail |
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Is the game contest going to be 1 vs 1 or continue with this lame ass format? --- Can't think of a good sig. |
| ExThaNemesis | Posted 11/17/2008 10:37:40 AM | message detail |
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I mean, I have little room to talk here: I took Vincent > Crono
and my bracket is in the trash, but the winner of Vincent/Crono was
given a spot in the finals as a gift. hindsight is 20/20 for me, yeah, but the pick had logic behind it that wasn't all that bad. Mario let me down, and Crono exceeded expectations. --- ExThaNemesis is the man. http://img.imgcake.com/ omghawttt13141.jpg |
| ExThaNemesis | Posted 11/17/2008 10:38:29 AM | message detail |
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If the Games Contest is 4-ways I'm not even entering it. --- ExThaNemesis is the man. http://img.imgcake.com/ omghawttt13141.jpg |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/17/2008 10:38:49 AM | message detail |
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4way game contest would be best thing ever imho --- http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png http://videogames.techfresh.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/wow-wrath-of-the-lich-king.jpg |
| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 11/17/2008 10:39:17 AM | message detail |
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If the Games Contest is 4-ways I'm not even entering it. This. --- Isaac and Princess Kumatora for SSB4! SSBB Mains: Zelda, Peach, Lucas, Ness Now we must duel, like two gleaming banjos on a moonlit stoop! -Dimentio, SPM |
| Tohoya | Posted 11/17/2008 10:40:04 AM | message detail |
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Seeding based on strength sometimes take a back seat if the match-up is good. Remind me why we have seeding in the first place? I mean, I understand if you're like in the NFL, and you want to reward good play during the regular season, or if you simply want to reward excellence in every form. But these characters aren't conscious beings, which can appreciate being placed in a high seeding and want to win themselves. I say screw seeding, and create a bracket that's fun to watch and predict. I'm not even counting this as a win in Crono's favor in their series. This is a joke. Revenge for 2k3 shenanigans. --- "There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses." --Ezekiel 23:20 |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/17/2008 10:40:22 AM | message detail |
| If we think that 4way charcter contest is
unpredictable cuz of SFF and LFF and stuff, the 4way game contest will
be a total crapshoot, just the way I like it. I dunno, I just prefer
unpredictability over knowing exactly how every match will go by
character/games exact strength! --- http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png http://videogames.techfresh.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/wow-wrath-of-the-lich-king.jpg |
| ExThaNemesis | Posted 11/17/2008 10:41:17 AM | message detail |
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All Crono had to look forward to in 2003 was getting devoured by
Sephiroth anyways. Probably a lot worse than what happened to Mario,
and Mario got flat out pasted. --- ExThaNemesis is the man. http://img.imgcake.com/ omghawttt13141.jpg |
| Crimson Dragoon | Posted 11/17/2008 10:42:34 AM | message detail |
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That poll has Cloud, Sephiroth and Snake in it. Aye, but Mario and Samus finished last while Link finished first. Very polarized. I'm of the opinion that any upper midcarder could have taken advantage of this split. I'd take Zack here even. MMX was just not Nintendo enough to let Mario win last round. --- ~FFDragon. (at Work !!) The Cream of Resident Evil Fanboyism. |
| ExThaNemesis | Posted 11/17/2008 10:42:36 AM | message detail |
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If we think that 4way charcter contest is unpredictable cuz of SFF
and LFF and stuff, the 4way game contest will be a total crapshoot,
just the way I like it. I dunno, I just prefer unpredictability over
knowing exactly how every match will go by character/games exact
strength! It's been 4 years since the last games contest(perhaps 5 by the time the next one starts). I mean, I doubt Bacon's competency at bracket making quite a bit, but if he can't make an unpredictable bracket in a 1v1 format then he should just quit, and forever. --- ExThaNemesis is the man. http://img.imgcake.com/ omghawttt13141.jpg |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/17/2008 10:43:08 AM | message detail |
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From: ExThaNemesis | #475 Coulda told us how Crono holds up against elite FF7 characters though, since iirc I don't think we would have ever had a Crono vs. Cloud/Sephy match till this years finals --- http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png http://videogames.techfresh.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/wow-wrath-of-the-lich-king.jpg |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 11/17/2008 10:53:57 AM | message detail |
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This talk of Crono being near Mario is silly, almost as silly as
talking about the deboost after what happened yesterday. Crono's margin
of victory is already smaller than Mewtwo's against Squall and likely
to get smaller still; please tell me that no one would begin to
consider Mewtwo over Squall 1v1? Triple LFF obviously induces very
large percentage swings, and to disregard that effect is pretty foolish
given the amount of evidence we've seen supporting it. --- Mustache...and green... |
| Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted 11/17/2008 10:55:10 AM | message detail |
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And for the people saying four way is better, the entire point of a
tournament like this is to determine the strength order of whoevers in
it. Not to create random, unpredictable match results where the winner
is determined by who else is in the match with them. If its too
predictable then we need to do a different kind of contest, like a non
game character contest. --- Can't think of a good sig. |
| hailEC | Posted 11/17/2008 10:57:14 AM | message detail |
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This talk of Crono being near Mario is silly, almost as silly as
talking about the deboost after what happened yesterday. Crono's margin
of victory is already smaller than Mewtwo's against Squall and likely
to get smaller still; please tell me that no one would begin to
consider Mewtwo over Squall 1v1? Triple LFF obviously induces very
large percentage swings, and to disregard that effect is pretty foolish
given the amount of evidence we've seen supporting it. Crono's not as far removed from this trio as Mewtwo was however. Mario still beats Crono pretty damn comfortably, but you can straight up compare these two matches. --- all hail ec your lord and savior |
| Crimson Dragoon | Posted 11/17/2008 10:57:21 AM | message detail |
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This is a video game website. Video games and characters makes sense.
CNet is getting their money by drawing gamers here, which the contests
do. You think they actually care about making a good contest? Goose has
proven otherwise already. --- ~FFDragon. (at Work !!) The Cream of Resident Evil Fanboyism. |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/17/2008 10:57:26 AM | message detail |
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From: Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted: 11/17/2008 1:55:10 PM | #474 Best post in ages. --- TurnTurnTurn your brain in. ~*ST*~ Now Playing: Mother 3, Castlevania: OoE, MGS2 |
| The Mana Sword | Posted 11/17/2008 10:57:29 AM | message detail |
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Crono's not at Mario level or anything like that, but I feel very
comfortable saying that Crono is solidly above Sonic and Mega Man
again. He's probably never going to reach Mario levels again, so this
is about as much as the guy can hope for. --- Kleenex - Not on his computer. |
| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 11/17/2008 10:58:40 AM | message detail |
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UltimaterializerX (#483) From: Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted: 11/17/2008 1:55:10 PM | #474 And for the people saying four way is better, the entire point of a tournament like this is to determine the strength order of whoevers in it. Not to create random, unpredictable match results where the winner is determined by who else is in the match with them. If its too predictable then we need to do a different kind of contest, like a non game character contest. Best post in ages. Agreed. --- --- Isaac and Princess Kumatora for SSB4! SSBB Mains: Zelda, Peach, Lucas, Ness Now we must duel, like two gleaming banjos on a moonlit stoop! -Dimentio, SPM |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/17/2008 11:03:40 AM | message detail |
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I guess I don't care abotu the straight up 1 vs 1 matche sto determin
who is really the strongest because we all know who is. Link with Cloud
second. At least this adds some new spice to the contests that was
severly lacking in 2005 and 2006 for me, the 2 worst contests. Its no
fun for me having the majority of round 1 not even worth checking cuz
its obvious blow outs, and to know every single year who will win the
later matches due to past contest strength. Like I only checked the
results TWICE I think for that Mario/Samus match IIRC in 2005, because
I just DIDNT CARE becuase it was over within seconds. At least with
4ways, theres alot more fun to be had and not only battles for first to
keep up with. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png http://videogames.techfresh.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/wow-wrath-of-the-lich-king.jpg |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 11/17/2008 11:03:53 AM | message detail |
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Crono's not as far removed from this trio as Mewtwo was however.
Mario still beats Crono pretty damn comfortably, but you can straight
up compare these two matches. I can more or less agree with this, but consider that, based on what Squall did to Yoshi in round 1, Mewtwo certainly does worse than 40% on Squall, probably closer to 35%. But he got 58% in a triple LFF match - that's an absolutely enormous swing. And Mewtwo is from Nintendo's premier RPG series; that might matter when facing Cloud, though obviously not too much. And while I'd be comfortable taking Crono over Mega Man and Sonic (especially the latter), I'd feel better about it if Vincent had looked sharper this contest, especially considering what a great first two rounds Auron and Squall had and how Vincent was relatively disappointing. --- Mustache...and green... |
| Tohoya | Posted 11/17/2008 11:43:48 AM | message detail |
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IMHO, if you want the contests to remain unpredictable, this is what you do: year 1: 1-on-1 characters year 2: 1-on-1 games year 3: 4-way characters year 4: 4-way games This way you've got 4 years inbetween contests of similar types, and it should be interesting to see which of the anomalies from 1-on-1 to 4-way are due to the format, or due to the two intervening years. --- "There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses." --Ezekiel 23:20 |
| hailEC | Posted 11/17/2008 11:48:06 AM | message detail |
| Or you could just alternate between characters and
games. There's a reason no one's had a perfect bracket in a 1v1
characters or games contest... because they're not as predictable as
all the whiners like to say they are. If anything the gimmicks have
been. Villains and series were jokes, and that was the first time
seeing either one. There's nothing wrong with the classic format. --- all hail ec your lord and savior |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/17/2008 11:55:06 AM | message detail |
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From: hailEC | #489 The classic format might not of been predictable early on, but with all we know now, its very predictable outside of new entrants. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png http://videogames.techfresh.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/wow-wrath-of-the-lich-king.jpg |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/17/2008 11:55:38 AM | message detail |
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I was honestly a bit surprised when I learned that there was any
resistance to a standard, 64-entrant "Best Character Ever" contest.
You're not using a gimmick format, but you're opening things up for
Darth Vader, Spider-Man, Batman, Wolverine, and Bond. We should rally
hard for this after we get our games contest. --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| hailEC | Posted 11/17/2008 11:55:56 AM | message detail |
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oh. well then you should probably link me to your perfect bracket or all the contests that you've won. --- all hail ec your lord and savior |
| transience | Posted 11/17/2008 12:12:35 PM | message detail |
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this match ain't Crono vs. Mario. don't even compare it. you're better
off saying Mario RPG vs. Chrono Trigger was Crono vs. Mario. --- xyzzy "I hope you are this idiot only in the internet ^__^" -linkhatesganon |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/17/2008 12:18:02 PM | message detail |
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This may be the furthest Crono will ever drop during ASV... he's up
against 3 Nintendo characters so I can't see him staying up very well
in ASV --- http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png http://videogames.techfresh.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/wow-wrath-of-the-lich-king.jpg |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/17/2008 12:18:51 PM | message detail |
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From: transience | #493 I may be crazy and seeing things, but I believe I see Crono beating Mario. Am I wrong? --- http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png http://videogames.techfresh.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/wow-wrath-of-the-lich-king.jpg |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/17/2008 12:23:35 PM | message detail |
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Yes. Wait to see how CTDS is received before even entertaining that upset. --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/17/2008 12:24:35 PM | message detail |
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Heh, Link is taking 100% of this ASV. --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| Crimson Dragoon | Posted 11/17/2008 12:26:26 PM | message detail |
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LINK SMASH --- ~FFDragon. (at Work !!) The Cream of Resident Evil Fanboyism. |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 11/17/2008 12:26:57 PM | message detail |
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Crono is winning a match with Mario in the poll. It counts as a Crono win, even with the match-affecting SFF. --- JUSTICE FOR FD I use to worry about a McCain presidency but after playing some Fallout 3 I feel I could survive well enough. - ISS |
| Biolizard28 | Posted 11/17/2008 12:27:24 PM | message detail |
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Go Mario --- Biolizard28: The cream of Fire Emblem fanboyism. ALLEN LIED! PEOPLE LOST THEIR ABILITY TO CONTEST! |
