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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 635

KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/15/2008 2:48:45 PM | message detail
I'm still not feeling the Charizard love. I have no desire to see him in a contest and would take Mewtwo there pretty easy.
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transience | Posted 11/15/2008 2:50:06 PM | message detail
cloud hurting Mewtwo? that's just too much for me.

Mewtwo.
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H__RR____H | Posted 11/15/2008 2:59:56 PM | message detail
Well, then let me ask this: are there any other Pokemon characters worth seeing? I'll follow-up with a four-way for the question (note that I don't know the fanbase so well):

Ash
Charizard
Jigglypuff
Squirtle
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/15/2008 3:02:16 PM | message detail
Ash wouldn't be allowed, it would have to be Red or Pokemon Trainer.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/15/2008 3:04:22 PM | message detail
I'm pretty sure I've seen all the Pokemon I want to see. Charizard would probably be the next strongest after Mewtwo, but really, that's about it. I can't see any of the other 488 of them we haven't seen being strong enough to make it worthwhile.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/15/2008 3:08:18 PM | message detail
Charizard and Jigglypuff are all we really need to see until the next smash game.
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Character Battle 2008: Points 311/448 Today's Match: Cloud > Solid Snake
KamikazePotato | Posted 11/15/2008 3:44:48 PM | message detail
Charizard is the only other Pokemon worth getting into these things.

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Gaddswell | Posted 11/15/2008 4:02:10 PM | message detail
I'd personally prefer to see Jigglypuff next, just so we can finally have all 12 of the original Smash Bros in these contests.

Besides, being in the original and Melee does mean Jiggs has more to draw from than Charizard.
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Master Moltar | Posted 11/15/2008 4:07:23 PM | message detail
You could make a case for Mewtwo, Lucario, Mudkip, Bidoof and Pikachu

You can make a case for Charizard

Jigglypuff...I'm not seeing anything there

this post reminded me that Nidoran F has been in a contest
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ZFS | Posted 11/15/2008 4:08:38 PM | message detail
dammit

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hellfire104 | Posted 11/15/2008 4:12:23 PM | message detail
Yea, you hope he keeps it within 10%. From where I'm sitting, that might not happen.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/15/2008 4:55:07 PM | message detail
Jigglypuff has no shot at being anything decent. She's more likely to do well as a joke character than a character,

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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/15/2008 4:57:43 PM | message detail
Yea, you hope he keeps it within 10%. From where I'm sitting, that might not happen.

I can literally feel your fear from here. >:)
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/15/2008 5:05:48 PM | message detail
I'd like to see Jigglypuff, but I doubt she amounts to much. She would range from CF/Ness tp Pika/Mewtwo. It's not like she smokes CF or Ness and she wouldn't beat Pikachu or Mewtwo. That's...not a lot of breathing room, considering Pikachu/CF and Mewtwo/Ness went down this year.

So...let's try this with Jiggly:


Alucard
Jigglypuff
Niko Bellis
Pac-Man
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XxSoulxX | Posted 11/15/2008 5:07:48 PM | message detail
Alucard > Pac-Man

Niko would finish way behind Pac-Man, and Jigglypuff would finish behind Niko.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/15/2008 5:10:37 PM | message detail
Niko finish WAY behind Pac-Man? He beat Kefka by over 1500 votes, and has a fanbase about as independent as Alucard's there. I'd bet on Niko to win, and he certainly wouldn't get blown out.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 11/15/2008 5:13:54 PM | message detail
Niko barely beat Kefka. Why would you think he's capable of beating Pac-Man, let alone Alucard?
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Dilated Chemist | Posted 11/15/2008 5:13:54 PM | message detail
I'd actually go Alucard > Jigglypuff the way these contests are going.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/15/2008 5:17:48 PM | message detail
Niko barely beat Kefka. Why would you think he's capable of beating Pac-Man, let alone Alucard?

Win against, Pac-Man, if it wasn't obvious.

And while I'm sure you'd like to skirt this little point - Kefka BEAT Pac-Man. Not only that, he's seemed to stay even with him in every comparison we've had since that win. Couple that with Pac *certainly* having more overlap with Jiggs than anyone else in that match... no, seriously, why do YOU think Pac's capable of winning? *eyeroll*
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 11/15/2008 6:00:57 PM | message detail
took bacon long enough

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Haven't checked these yet:

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transience | Posted 11/15/2008 6:04:41 PM | message detail
Kirby kinda wins those pictures.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 11/15/2008 6:05:33 PM | message detail
Kirby always attracts attention because he's a giant pink blob that your eye instantly wanders to.

He always wins pic-wise... Unless there's another, bigger pink blob in the pic.
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ffmasterjose | Posted 11/15/2008 6:08:26 PM | message detail
Zen speaks the truth. Kirby puts butts in the seats.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/15/2008 6:09:12 PM | message detail
Hold the phone, Jigglypuff being stronger than Ness or Falcon? I can't see that happening at all.

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MichaelWClark | Posted 11/15/2008 6:11:07 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #304
Ash wouldn't be allowed, it would have to be Red or Pokemon Trainer.




L Block would not be allowed either, right? And Alucard, and Ammy, and Megaman X? SB Failen could care less about the rules. I bet he lets Goku in next year.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 11/15/2008 6:13:02 PM | message detail

And while I'm sure you'd like to skirt this little point - Kefka BEAT Pac-Man. Not only that, he's seemed to stay even with him in every comparison we've had since that win. Couple that with Pac *certainly* having more overlap with Jiggs than anyone else in that match... no, seriously, why do YOU think Pac's capable of winning? *eyeroll*


Character's aren't linear. Besides, Kefka was the huge bracket favorite there, and barely managed to win. Also, Pac-Man looks to have gained a lot since that time. I wouldn't hesitate to pick PM in a rematch.

Besides, the one rule I have with Kefka is this: No matter how weak I think he is, he is always at least two times weaker. Right now, I have no confidence in Kefka beating anyone with any sort of strength in these things.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 11/15/2008 6:16:16 PM | message detail
Couple that with Pac *certainly* having more overlap with Jiggs than anyone else in that match...

Oh, missed this part.

Where does the certainly come from? Pac-Man is not Nintendo and has no affiliation to Nintendo. Pac-Man relies on his old-school fanbase. There is no one in this match that will SFF him.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/15/2008 6:27:22 PM | message detail
Second Quarter Stats

Samus Aran – 50.00%
Crono – 45.02%
Vincent Valentine – 44.96%
L-Block – 39.55%
Ganondorf – 37.98%
Pikachu – 37.49%
Ryu – 36.36%
Frog – 33.14%
Alucard – 32.30%
Gordon Freeman – 31.61%
Meta Knight – 30.33%
Ike – 29.36%
Amaterasu – 28.75%
Captain Falcon – 28.69%
KOS-MOS – 28.66%
Nightmare – 27.49%
Arthas Menethil – 27.08%
Scorpion – 26.95%
Crash Bandicoot – 24.45%
Falco Lombardi – 24.33%
Balthier Bunansa – 22.85%
Diddy Kong – 22.44%
The Dog – 22.32%
Kratos Aurion – 21.01%
Big Daddy – 20.86%
Neku Sakuraba – 20.53%
Frank West – 20.29%
GlaDOS – 20.03%
Spy – 18.95%
Raz – 13.63%
Kaim Argonar – 11.53%
Wander – 9.28%

Second Quarter Raw Stats

Samus Aran – 50.00%
Crono – 45.02%
Vincent Valentine – 44.96%
Ryu – 38.38%
Pikachu – 37.49%
Gordon Freeman – 33.74%
Ike – 33.48%
Ganondorf – 32.75%
Captain Falcon – 32.71%
Alucard – 32.30%
Meta Knight – 32.01%
Arthas Menethil – 31.00%
Amaterasu – 28.75%
Diddy Kong – 28.53%
Scorpion – 27.72%
Nightmare – 27.49%
Kratos Aurion – 26.70%
Falco Lombardi – 25.21%
Crash Bandicoot – 24.45%
Spy – 24.20%
Balthier Bunansa – 23.68%
Frog – 23.31%
The Dog – 22.32%
Big Daddy – 21.43%
GlaDOS – 20.75%
Frank West – 20.29%
KOS-MOS – 20.16%
Neku Sakuraba – 14.44%
Raz – 13.63%
Kaim Argonar – 11.53%
Wander – 9.62%
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/15/2008 6:28:49 PM | message detail
"Arthas Menethil – 27.08%
Scorpion – 26.95%"

I'm good with that.
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paulg235 | Posted 11/15/2008 6:29:34 PM | message detail
Lol Crash would beat Falco and Balthier.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 11/15/2008 6:32:54 PM | message detail
Aw yeah Ike > Ganondorf
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Luis_Sera89 | Posted 11/15/2008 6:32:59 PM | message detail
Ike – 29.36%
Arthas Menethil – 27.08%


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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/15/2008 6:34:20 PM | message detail
The raw stats don't seem to have L-Block.

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XxSoulxX | Posted 11/15/2008 6:35:33 PM | message detail
You're missing L-Block in the raw stats.
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Gaddswell | Posted 11/15/2008 6:36:40 PM | message detail
Pikachu – 37.49%
Ryu – 36.36%

or

Ike – 33.48%
Ganondorf – 32.75%

I'm torn.

Does

Gordon Freeman – 33.74%
Ike – 33.48%

look like last year's between these two?
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Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted 11/15/2008 6:50:08 PM | message detail
"He always wins pic-wise... Unless there's another, bigger pink blob in the pic."

A bright neon red blob would be better.

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Gaddswell | Posted 11/15/2008 6:51:18 PM | message detail
I wonder who wins pic-wise in a Kirby / Jigglypuff pic?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/15/2008 6:52:17 PM | message detail
If we get a 1 on 1 contest those sets of stats are going to be almost meaningless, I think. >_>

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Liberal Degenerate | Posted 11/15/2008 7:01:16 PM | message detail
Super Sonic in a pic? Is that a first?
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paulg235 | Posted 11/15/2008 7:27:04 PM | message detail
I believe it is. Sonner or later, Were-Sonic will show up.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/15/2008 7:28:48 PM | message detail
this is like the most boring match ever
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hellfire104 | Posted 11/15/2008 7:43:25 PM | message detail
It's amazing how badly Cloud beats Snake. Snake isn't even a weaker NN and Cloud is going to put up 13k on him.
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DSiRage | Posted 11/15/2008 7:50:09 PM | message detail
7th 7th 7th 7th 7th 7th 7th 7th

Osmachenko is me :D

WOO

but I have Snake > Cloud. What was I thinking?
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/15/2008 8:02:40 PM | message detail
And hey, we need to seriously look at making the Noble Nine into a Top Ten and throwing Vincent in there. If it's a winning streak (and L-Block is thrown out), it would be valid.

Only problem is that you'd then have to add in Squall, who's only lost to Snake, Samus, Cloud, Vincent and Sonic, and who I would take over Vincent in a rematch. Also, Squall has been in every battle, which Vincent has not been.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/15/2008 8:36:39 PM | message detail
Match LX: Kirby vs. Dante vs. Sephiroth vs. Sonic the Hedgehog

Last Round:

Kirby – 29.96%
Dante – 26.15%
Master Chief – 24.12%
Leon Kennedy – 19.76%

Well for the second time in a row being the odd ball worked in Kirby’s favour. While I expected Dante to defeat Master Chief it was a shock to see Chief so far off from Kirby compare to last round. The advantage Kirby had against Dante won’t be there so will Kirby/Dante II be more exciting?

Sephiroth – 38.49%
Sonic the Hedgehog – 28.19%
Auron – 17.23%
Kratos – 16.09%

Sonic got his revenge on Auron after his round 2 defeat, but that still doesn’t ignore the fact that Auron defeated him 54/46 and Sonic is still in just as much danger at losing as he was before his last round match. Also even in the face of LFF Sephiroth still looked much better than his competition, but a certain blond hair character could case his early defeat in the semi-finals.

Analysis:

This is the final match of the round and the last match to stop the eight remaining characters being members of the noble nine. Sephiroth should be fine, but the battle between Sonic, Kirby and Dante could be interesting personally I think the board is hyping any match that has a chance at becoming close.

This will be the first time that Sephiroth won’t be having a Final Fantasy character holding him back. Like Cloud 40% is probably a little too much to ask for Sephiroth, but he should approach the upper thirties just like Cloud is doing today. The only thing interesting about Sephiroth is how low will he start with three board favourites in the poll and how well will he do without other Square characters holding him back.

While he lost to Auron in round 2 I still think Sonic should be considered the favourite going into this match. First Auron is a strong character and I would probably take him over Dante by more than he defeated Sonic by. Also Sandbag was in the match taking away some Brawl votes that Sonic should have received. While it is expected that Kirby may hold Sonic back more than Sandbag it should be cancelled out by Sephiroth holding Dante back, meaning any overlap the characters have between each other are small. That doesn’t mean that Sonic is a lock it’s just that I’ll be really surprised if Sonic manages to lose this match.

The real match is between Kirby and Dante. This time Dante has less things holding him back and turning 46.5% loss into a win shouldn’t be that hard to accomplish. Dante has looked great so far in this contest though that could be explained for the fact that he hasn’t gone against anyone with great strength. Not that Dante is weak, but like last year his competition is just too strong for him to continue. Still between Kirby and himself he does have the better chance at upsetting Sonic.

Kirby has taken advantage of being the character with the least amount of overlap between his opponents for two rounds, but now that he’s in a level playing field I’m expecting to see a small drop in strength from him. This round I see Kirby and Dante having a much closer match than they did last round hopefully bringing some entertainment to the final match of the round.

Sephiroth walks over everyone while Sonic struggles, but will hopefully be in no danger of losing once the morning vote comes in. For the first time since 2004 the elite 8 will be entirely composed of noble nine characters. Sorry Mega Man is looks like you were to odd one out and you had two chances at making the semi-finals.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Sephiroth > Sonic

charmander6000’s Prediction: Sephiroth – 38.26%, Sonic – 23.52%, Dante – 19.32%, Kirby – 18.90%

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Biolizard28 | Posted 11/15/2008 8:41:17 PM | message detail
Ike – 29.36%
Arthas Menethil – 27.08%


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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 11/15/2008 8:54:45 PM | message detail
Ya know, I don't think Sonic was hurt by Sandbag that much. I believe it was Sub-Zero that did more damage to Sonic.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/15/2008 8:56:12 PM | message detail
Must be that damn blue SFF.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/15/2008 8:56:35 PM | message detail
It's amazing how badly Cloud beats Snake. Snake isn't even a weaker NN and Cloud is going to put up 13k on him.

Cloud is just really strong, and underrated because he hasn't had a proper 1v1 match against anyone but Link since 2004.

Let's see....Cloud currently has 56.85% on Snake. Suppose adding Sephiroth would increase FFVII's share by 5%, that is, that Snake gets 38.15% on Cloud + Sephiroth. In that case, Cloud needs to get 61.68% of Cloud/Sephiroth votes to stay ahead of Snake. He got 64.39% last year, but Cloud/Sephiroth has varied pretty widely through the years. Nonetheless, that looks good for Cloud.

If adding Sephiroth adds only 3% to FFVII's share, then Snake gets 40.15% against Cloud/Seph, and Cloud needs 67.08% on Seph, more than a doubling and more than he's ever gotten. That 2% seems to make a big difference.
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Lopen | Posted 11/15/2008 8:58:46 PM | message detail
Who's ready for Sonic in last place.
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