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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 632

transience | Posted 11/13/2008 11:37:34 PM | message detail
contest spoilers -- Vincent takes the lead on post #337

~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
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~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Character Contest Histories*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories

~*TRE's poll listing (every poll!)*~
http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html

~*aprosenf's poll script*~
http://web.mit.edu/adamrose/Public/allpolls.txt

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

rSFF (Reverse Same Fanbase Factor): An unproven theory that states that an SFF match will feature the expected weaker character receiving more benefit from SFF than the stronger character. For example, all evidence supports Samus being indirectly stronger than Mario, yet Mario blew Samus away during their 2005 match. That's rSFF in action, and the one case we have of the weaker statistical character winning with it.

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/13/2008 11:38:38 PM | message detail
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/13/2008 11:38:50 PM | message detail
keep dreamin'
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WalrusJump | Posted 11/13/2008 11:39:59 PM | message detail
BOLD PREDIX: Crono wins
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transience | Posted 11/13/2008 11:40:28 PM | message detail
I'll make another one if need be!
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/13/2008 11:40:36 PM | message detail
Hmm....I wonder how long it will take to reach post 337 on this topic.
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Crono's quest to beat Link:
This it it! Crono vs. Samus vs. Vincent vs. Pikachu
Gaddswell | Posted 11/13/2008 11:41:27 PM | message detail
Never!
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Zenithian Legend | Posted 11/13/2008 11:46:37 PM | message detail
What's frustrating is next year should be much easier to pick, now that everyone else knows how strong X & Zack are, and the joke characters have waned, after L's crazy run in 2007. Course... I guess the WCC could still have a few tricks in its... Cube? But I highly doubt it'll sneak by Snake & Cloud, hell WCC & MewTwo might be lucky to break 10% against those guys.

Hmm, realistically, I'll say Cloud 39%, Snake 36%, WCC 15%, MewTwo 10%
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/13/2008 11:50:28 PM | message detail
Next year ought to be unpredictable. It's hard to figure out character strengths from 4-ways, and we don't really know how strong Zack or X are yet.
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Crono's quest to beat Link:
This it it! Crono vs. Samus vs. Vincent vs. Pikachu
Zenithian Legend | Posted 11/13/2008 11:51:32 PM | message detail
Oh, are they bringing back 1 vs 1 next year? That'd be nice.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/13/2008 11:53:02 PM | message detail
Well, hopefully Bacon will.....though I don't really like the odds on getting that traditional, 64-character, 1v1, no gimmick, no character removal, contest I want.
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Crono's quest to beat Link:
This it it! Crono vs. Samus vs. Vincent vs. Pikachu
Zenithian Legend | Posted 11/14/2008 12:02:01 AM | message detail
You could add "spice" to the tournament in different ways, such as a losers-bracket, or simply be seeding the characters in such a way that 8 members of the noble 9 met in the first round. Creating some new match-ups, even if the end result was the same. Still be more fun to track that way.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 11/14/2008 12:04:42 AM | message detail
Crono Crono Crono ^_^
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tee316 | Posted 11/14/2008 12:30:14 AM | message detail
Crono needs to keep up the fight.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 11/14/2008 12:30:58 AM | message detail
And now Samus lead on Crono is bigger than his lead on Vincent, not a good sign >_<


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red sox 777 | Posted 11/14/2008 12:31:27 AM | message detail
Uh, it's not there yet. Maybe next update though.
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Crono's quest to beat Link:
This it it! Crono vs. Samus vs. Vincent vs. Pikachu
Lopen | Posted 11/14/2008 12:32:06 AM | message detail
I like Crono alot more this time. He's got about the same lead he did last year, but he did it in a much more gradual manner. Believe last year he went up around 150 after 5 minutes or something really stupid.

... I'd still keep an eye out for Pikachu... 2000 votes he can do this come on Pika!
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Kirby's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 4 - Seph/Sonic/Dante.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/14/2008 12:32:57 AM | message detail
Yeah, now Samus has a bigger lead. Crono hit his peak lead 10 minutes from now last year. The next hour is make-or-break for him.
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Crono's quest to beat Link:
This it it! Crono vs. Samus vs. Vincent vs. Pikachu
Shaggysaurus | Posted 11/14/2008 12:33:49 AM | message detail
liar!
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Ngamer64 | Posted 11/14/2008 12:39:16 AM | message detail
Hm, get the sense that people are throwing in the towel on Crono, and I can't say that I agree. Sure he died right around this time last year and got killed the rest of the day, but overall, vote trends haven't been as severe this year as they were in '07. In every match so far Crono has held up much better past the first 4 hours than he did last year, Frog didn't totally die during the day either, and Magus... alright, so he collapsed, but that was SSB and joke vote fueled, can't get down on CT too much for it.

I still give him a fighting chance.

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Zylo the wolf | Posted 11/14/2008 12:41:50 AM | message detail
Oh noes, Vinny even cut Samus in that update.
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transience | Posted 11/14/2008 12:42:11 AM | message detail
oh Crono, you tease.
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tee316 | Posted 11/14/2008 12:42:30 AM | message detail
That was a bad update for Crono. Can't handle too many more of those.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/14/2008 12:42:39 AM | message detail
Vincent just made his first serious cut- 25 votes, and that sets Crono back to where he was at the beginning of this hour. Come on different trends.
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Crono's quest to beat Link:
This it it! Crono vs. Samus vs. Vincent vs. Pikachu
ZFS | Posted 11/14/2008 12:42:52 AM | message detail
Vincent killing those past couple of updates. This was around the time he started wrecking Crono last year, too.

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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 11/14/2008 12:44:35 AM | message detail
I'm so glad Vincent is losin
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 11/14/2008 12:44:55 AM | message detail
But all of Crono's matches this year have been on weekends so yeah, you won't notice much of any major trends compared to the weekday.

His very first match was a weekday, and in that match he lost 2.5% from his peak despite some fodderish competition
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/14/2008 12:46:34 AM | message detail
If this were the weekend, I'd feel very good about Crono right now. As it is, a Vincent victory looks very likely.....the floodgates may open soon.
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Crono's quest to beat Link:
This it it! Crono vs. Samus vs. Vincent vs. Pikachu
Ngamer64 | Posted 11/14/2008 12:48:31 AM | message detail
We've got to turn Friday Nov 14th into a national holiday- Crono's life depends on it!

Someone get Obama on the phone!

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Shaggysaurus | Posted 11/14/2008 12:48:49 AM | message detail
go CHrono go!
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paulg235 | Posted 11/14/2008 12:50:16 AM | message detail
It won't be long now until Vincent takes 2nd.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/14/2008 12:52:22 AM | message detail
Alright, Crono, I give up. You can start going up again now.
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Crono's quest to beat Link:
This it it! Crono vs. Samus vs. Vincent vs. Pikachu
DSiRage | Posted 11/14/2008 12:53:05 AM | message detail
*Sigh*

Looks like my small run on the leaderboard shall end when Vincent takes the lead.

Grr.
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tee316 | Posted 11/14/2008 12:53:09 AM | message detail
Crono needs to stop this if he wants to stay in 2nd.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/14/2008 12:53:46 AM | message detail
Hmm...Samus is falling off quickly too, while Vincent soaks up percentage from both of them.
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Crono's quest to beat Link:
This it it! Crono vs. Samus vs. Vincent vs. Pikachu
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/14/2008 12:54:10 AM | message detail
Looks like it'll end a bit closer than last year, but Vincen't still gonna win. I'd say by about 1000 or so.
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DSiRage | Posted 11/14/2008 12:55:29 AM | message detail
These updates are coming way too slowly...

This match is like an energy drink.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/14/2008 12:55:40 AM | message detail
Seems like a good time to reiterate how bad the CT cast is:

C(H)RONO: ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...

MARLE: THE STEREOTYPICAL WEAK PRINCESS WHO DOESN'T WANT TO BE A PRINCESS. NO ONE HAS THOUGHT OF THIS BEFORE OR SINCE

LUCCA: THE BRAINY KID WHO MAY ALSO BE A LESBIAN WHO MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE A DEAD PARENT, NO ONE HAS THOUGHT OF THIS BEFORE OR SINCE

ROBO: THE REJECT ROBOT WITH NO HUMAN PERSONALITY, BUT WANTS TO BE HUMAN. NO ONE HAS THOUGHT OF THIS BEFORE OR SINCE

AYLA: GRUNT GRUNT ME CAVEWOMAN ME HAVE NO PART IN STORYLINE BUT TO LOOK HOT GRUNT GRUNT GRUNT WOOF

FROG: I'TH SITETH IN MY HOLETH ALL DAYETH, BUT CHERETH YE OLDE ENGRISH AND MAKE YOU DO ALL MINE WORK FOR ME WHILE I STARE AT THE ENTOMB OF LORD CYRUS AND PLEASURE MYSELF

MAGUS: THE GOTHIC ANTI-HERO THAT ALL THE 13 YEAR OLDS WANT TO BE LIKE

Good times.
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WoW_Skills | Posted 11/14/2008 12:56:08 AM | message detail
It's over.. there is zero hope for crono..

1. He has a smaller lead then last year
2. Hes losing consecutive updates an hour earlier then last year
3. the updates losses are gettingbigger
4. There is no more "good" time of the day for Crono after the first night vote.. the day hurts him bad, and the afternoon KILLS him horribly.
5. Link took some votes last year, but this year samus/pikachu take more of those nintendo voters(yes nintendo fans vote for crono too)
6. Vincent looks stronger then last year
7. He will lose by 2k+ votes
tee316 | Posted 11/14/2008 12:56:19 AM | message detail
Yea, I don't see how anyone can call this match boring.
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DSiRage | Posted 11/14/2008 12:56:32 AM | message detail
Good update.
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Shaggy_Heru | Posted 11/14/2008 12:56:53 AM | message detail
Chrono wins this (over Vincent) for sure

who wants to account bet on it?
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/14/2008 12:57:08 AM | message detail
Now that's what I like to see Crono! Still looking awful, but if you can avoid falling off 8% this next hour like last time, we might have ourselves a match.
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Crono's quest to beat Link:
This it it! Crono vs. Samus vs. Vincent vs. Pikachu
MichaelWClark | Posted 11/14/2008 12:57:56 AM | message detail
And Ulti just had the most fail in GameFAQs history good show. It is nothing like that.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/14/2008 12:58:25 AM | message detail
ulti did you just lose to a boss in chrono trigger
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WoW_Skills | Posted 11/14/2008 12:58:29 AM | message detail
if i had more karma id take it shaggy =D.. ill take a sig bet!
tee316 | Posted 11/14/2008 12:58:42 AM | message detail
Crono is still holding out. It was getting a little scary there though.
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"Mewtwo is a major joke."- Vlado
Zylo the wolf | Posted 11/14/2008 12:58:45 AM | message detail
Seems like a good time to reiterate how bad the CT cast is:

This comes from the guy who likes Kingdom Heart's character.
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Shaggy_Heru | Posted 11/14/2008 12:59:18 AM | message detail

From: WoW_Skills | #046
if i had more karma id take it shaggy =D.. ill take a sig bet!



I don't even know who the **** you are

and no, no sig bets, I want someone to loose an account here
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a sandwich would be nice - gotspork
MichaelWClark | Posted 11/14/2008 12:59:27 AM | message detail

Zylo the wolf (#048)
Seems like a good time to reiterate how bad the CT cast is:

This comes from the guy who likes Kingdom Heart's character.




No reason to put down KH either.
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Gunner is, what is the word... passionate. but i think that MichaelWClark dude is far crazier than anything Gunner has posted. Posted by Mark Milton
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